From: owner-precious-things-digest To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V1 #27 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, 14 March 1996 Volume 01 : Number 027 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Genre Re: For Sale: Tori CD-Singles Re: precious-things-digest V1 #26 MTV Prez Likes Tori! =) Re: For Sale: Tori CD-Singles Re: Barbados talula from igg? Re: a few things ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Christopher Boek Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 18:19:13 +1100 (EST) Subject: Genre Hi there, This is my inaugural post to anywhere officially Tori -- I was always a little put of by rdt's reputation, and liked the sound of the proposal for this list. I find BfP absolutely stunning - there are no tracks on it that I feel inclined to skip over (except sometimes the first for some reason), and there are some absolutely spellbinding things on there. I really like the length too! I hope Tori comes to Aus this time round too (although I'll understand if she doesn't -- she seemed pretty stuffed by the last tour). I'd like to agree with Meredith for a moment ;) ... Meth wrote ... > > >There can be no question that Tori Amos is one of the most gifted > >musicians and composers out there today, no matter what the genre. > >Period. > And Sister Ray ? replied > > ::: Are you fanatic?! > > ::: No matter what the genre? I think the genre _does_ matter. I > don't think Ms Amos will ever play or write something which isn't in > the line of what she plays now. > I think the point that was being made was that Tori is not just good in comparison to others in a similar genre, or who happen to be around now, but good by anybody's benchmark. And I agree totally. Her skills with the piano never cease to amaze me. There have been other good piano based singer-songwriters in the past, but few have the same lyrical _and_ musical skill that Tori does, nor the amazing technical skill with the instrument. I am in awe of her gift! I'm sure Meredith will correct me if I've strayed from her point >:) Sister Ray also said ... > > sound and just read the translated words printed on the screen (they > have a word for that iver here in the Lowlands: 'ondertitels', but i > don't know he word for that in english...). I turned the sound off > Subtitles :). Speaking of Nederlands, has anybody worked out the Dutch words that are being spoken during "Not the Red Baron" ? I picked up a word or two, and am curious to try and find our what's being said. If I pick up anything coherent, I'll let yuz all know ... Anyway, that's probably the most musically relevant post I've ever posted to a musical mailing list. Here's to many more! Chris. - -- | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||| ||| Christopher Boek - c.boek@ee.mu.oz.au | ||| ||| | ||| ||| ||| | ||| Dept Elec Eng Univ of Melbourne Australia | | | | | | | | | | Tel:(+613)- 344 9109(BH) 853 4296(AH) |___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|___|"I've got no room for a quote" CB 1994. ------------------------------ From: d0minique@nfocus.com (d0m) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 07:31:59 -0500 Subject: Re: For Sale: Tori CD-Singles > I only have a few, so this won't take much space. > > > PGY 2 part set: $15 > Winter (US 'ltd. ed'): $ 5 > God (US) $ 5 > > please include 1.50 for shipping (ie, postage) > > That's it ... please email me if interested. > > -- The Mermaid i'm interested. but y0u didn't put yer email address!@# d0minique@nfocus.com <-0-+ d0minique@nfocus.com (that's a zero) ------------------------------ From: "J. Hustadt" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 10:48:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V1 #26 Hello - mermaid - please tell us the tracks on the disks.... JEn. ------------------------------ From: "Mike Harris" Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 11:16:04 GMT-5 Subject: MTV Prez Likes Tori! =) Dear Fairies, Thought you might like to know that in the latest issue of _Entertainment Weekly_, Judy McGrath, the president of MTV, says on her decision to hire models Valletta and Harlow as the new hosts of MTV's House of Style: "They like PJ Harvey and Tori Amos. That pretty much nails why they got the job." Wow ... someone in MTV actually has taste. =) Mike ------------------------------ From: The Mermaid Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 09:23:35 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: For Sale: Tori CD-Singles You can't do a direct reply to the message? My apologies, I forget that not everyone does it in message-by-message mode. My email is: velvet@peacedove.org And, as an update, again, the PGY set has been taken. I still have the Winter and the US God singles for sale. -- The Mermaid ------------------------------ From: beninten@ix.netcom.com (Tori Lover) Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 15:30:48 -0800 Subject: Re: Barbados >Yes - in essence that's what she said. When she was describing this, she >was moving her hands as if she were to shoot a basket ball, except her >hands were directed downwards. As she said... that's why I can't go >there... her face was in the frown that's held when we try not to cry. >This clip was from Tori Amos live in Montreal - aired on much music >awhile back. I have this tape, and Tori was explaining her idea of Barbados. She said: "My concept of Barbados is more than a place, it's a thing that like....it was about life force, about survival. So if I go there, I'm afraid that it could never be what in my head I dreamed it would be. It's not about a place, it's about a conciousness. It's where... I but all my will that night. So I can't.. I cant go there." Like she said, I dont think she's talking about the actual place here, she's talking about the place in her mind. She was holding her head when she was talking and having a bit of a hard time choosing words. Anyway, there's my $.02. :) ~Angie quickest girl in the frying pan ------------------------------ From: heisler@cs.UMD.EDU Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 22:13:03 -0500 (EST) Subject: talula from igg? has anyone who has ordered talula from igg gotten it yet? thanks debbie - -- I'm a pilgrim on the edge. On the edge of my perception. We are travelers at the edge. We are always at the edge of our perception. (a poster on my wall) ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Wed, 13 Mar 1996 21:07:51 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: a few things On Tue, 12 Mar 1996, Sister Ray wrote: > ::: Next Friday i will see Ms Amos live. Does anyone know, Paul > Tweedy maybe, whether you are searched by security ppl for taking > recorders with you? If this is not the usual thing, i will ask my > friend for his small pocket recorder and i will try to make a > recording of the concert. But because it's my friends' recorder i > don't want to take the risk to loose the recorder. This tends to depend on the venue. > my attention attract is the way Ms Amos looked in the camera, she > looked like she really loved all those camera's, smiled to it etc. > She is said to have said on the day of the recording, that she didn't > like them at all, so i was a little surprised. Well, just because she behaves well in front of them doesn't mean that she likes them. Tori plays to her audience, whether it's there in the room with her or if it's a camera. I know that when she was talking on MTV 120 Minutes, she talked directly to Matt Pinfield, ignoring the camera. When she's singing, though, and the camera's on her she does seem to sing to it. > ::: And i still have another question to which no one seems to know > the answer. Is there an instrumental version of 'Winter'? I would guess this means that there isn't. > ::: Yes, you're correct Meredith. I'm not on the Really Deep Thoughts > list either, but it's not because i don't have the time. It's just > because i can't get on it, i've tried it already several times, but > it never worked. If you really want on, try emailing the owner directly. I think he's cmeyers@novia.net. That's what I had to do to get off the list. > ::: No matter what the genre? I think the genre _does_ matter. I > don't think Ms Amos will ever play or write something which isn't in > the line of what she plays now. Actually, she writes in a great variety of styles than most contemporary artists--think of the difference between her piano suite and "Waitress" or "Professional Widow" and "Putting the Damage On"--and she makes them work together on the same album. > She will never experiment with other > instruments, with other styles. On this album alone she plays piano, organ, harpsichord, and clavichord. This is quite a range of keyboards, though they are all keyboards. > but i also recently saw an intervieuw in which she said > that no instrument is like an Bosendorfer (did i spell it correct?). On an interview that ran a few weeks ago on Canadian tv, she said that she wasn't as piano-only as she had been in the past. > And i don't think you're 'one of the most gifted > musicians' when you're confined to an instrument like her. Why not? People called Horowitz one of the most gifted musicians ever and he only played classical piano. Glenn Gould, too. Tori not only plays a variety of keyboard instruments, but writes the music, and in a variety of styles. > And i > don't think that either of someone who plays al the songs in the same > genre. I wouldn't agree that she plays all her songs in a variety of styles. > ::: No matter the period? I'm not quit sure, but i've heard > as Ms Amos is like you say it. Well, Tori may hear the orchestra that plays along with her in a few songs, too. This is funny, defending someone else's statement--especially one that I'd never particularly thought about. > ::: What's the difference between a good poem and a good lyric? You > say that a good poem sounds like music, just from the words, but i > think a good lyric should do the same. I know of very, very few that do, even what I'd consider wonderful lyrics. In fact, I can't think of any off the top of my head. Most lyrics sounds flat and cheesy when read aloud without the music. > When i hear the words, i just feel it is good. To say it in > Ms Nova's words: "it feels good, it feels like poetry". All those > heavy subjects other members name, all the things others get out of > the lyrics, they're nice too see, but i don't get it out of her > lyrics. And i don't mind. It sounds and feels good. That's enough. I agree with this. If a song (music and words combined) can give me the same hard standing on end feel that reading a really effective poem can do, I will call it "poetry" for lack of a better word. - --Neile neile@u.washington.edu http://weber.u.washington.edu/~neile/ ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V1 #27 ************************************