From: owner-precious-things-digest To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V1 #22 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, 9 March 1996 Volume 01 : Number 022 Today's Subjects: ----------------- ms. amos on dutch television and radio... RE: Question of the Day tori in boston!! Re: Quesion of the day Re[2]: Quesion of the day Re: Re[2]: Quesion of the day Re: Re[2]: Quesion of the day Erm... Goodbye Re: Re[2]: Quesion of the day Re: Erm... world cafe ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sister Ray" Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 08:55:30 CET Subject: ms. amos on dutch television and radio... ::: Hi! For those who can receive dutch radio and television stations i've good news. On saturday, the 9th, will Tori Amos appear in the radio version of 'Twee Meter Sessies'. She will play several songs of Boys For Pele. The show will be broadcasted on the station Radio 3, from 20h04 until 21h59. Mondays she will appear on the television version of the same programm, on the station Nederland 3 starting 19h30. I guess the same songs will be featured then, all have been recorded some weeks ago. Sis. ********************************************************************* SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SCENE! - --------------------------------------------------------------------- email: sisterra@pi.net Sister Ray Headqtrs. or email: sisterra@mediaport.org (<20kB) url homepage: http://mediaport.org/~sisterra - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "First came fire, then came light Then came feeling, then cam sight." - Lou Reed to Sterling Morrison ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Steve Molla Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 07:58:24 -0500 Subject: RE: Question of the Day I agree that Tori's music works best when you don't seperate the 'music' from the lyrics (oh, I'd hate to hear a Musak version of *anything* by Tori), but there are times when it can be a very effective mode of communication. Here's an example for you: A couple of years ago, I decided that, instead of my regular routine of reading a bedtime story to my 6 year old daughter, I'd read they lyrics of Winter to her. The results were just amazing. She really loved it, and wanted to read it herself many times, *and* hear the song. She now loves many of Tori's songs, all because of a lark on my part. steve ------------------------------ From: LOUIE Date: Fri, 08 Mar 1996 11:55:53 -0500 (EST) Subject: tori in boston!! Well, early tomorow morning I shall be waiting in a long line in front of the Wang Center box office in Boston, MA. Anxiously awaiting my Tori tickets. So I'amjust putting out my invite to all who may be on their way to the show in beantown if anyone wants to meet up. It will just be me and my grlfriend who is an even bigger tori nut than I. :) The Dream King "So ya, thought ya, might like to go t the show" Pink Floyd ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:58:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Quesion of the day woj wrote: > i'd say that i like both equally, but that it was her music which > caught me up in the whole toriadore thing. Me, too. Especially at first I just heard the music. Then for a couple of weeks I had trouble listening to it because I was super-aware of Tori's breathing. Then I got past hearing that, and the lyrics began to settle into my brain. It's funny how it's the music that I always get attached to first, then the lyrics enhance that. They work together best of all. The music can stand on its own pretty well--not that I want to hear muzak versions!) but the lyricsonly work with the music for me at least, though I do think Winter would make a good story told to a child at bedtime ;) . I guess as a writer the music and words are inseparable, just as I hope they are in my own work, even though my work is mostly on the page. As a listener I can stand horrible lyrics as long as the music is good, but the lyrics can be wonderful and I still won't like the song if I don't like it musically. Luckily I've never had either problem with Tori's music, with the possible exception of "Butterfly"--I still haven't been able to decide if I dislike this song or not. I guess I would say it leaves me far more unmoved than any other song of Tori's - --Neile neile@u.washington.edu http://weber.u.washington.edu/~neile/ ------------------------------ From: VNozick@tribune.com Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:28:18 -0600 Subject: Re[2]: Quesion of the day Neile said: >It's funny how it's the music that I always get attached to first, then >the lyrics enhance that. They work together best of all. The music can >stand on its own pretty well--not that I want to hear muzak versions!) but >the lyricsonly work with the music for me at least, though I do think >Winter would make a good story told to a child at bedtime ;) . I'm the complete opposite. The lyrics have to do something for me, and then I'll notice the music (often not until months later will I fully appreciate the music!). When Tori sang "She's been everybody else's girl, maybe someday, she'll be her own," I was hooked. That's me, that's almost every woman I know. Same with the rest of the album. In fact, that's why, although I still love BfP and UtP, they'll never be my favorite albums. Tori's lyrics have gotten so obscure and bizarre, that I don't feel as strong a connection to the songs. It doesn't mean that I don't appreciate the lyrics, just that they don't make me go, "Yes, that's it!" And that's why I will forever be just a little disappointed in both of these albums. ==> Valerie ------------------------------ From: Neile Graham Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 11:01:10 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Quesion of the day Valerie said: > In fact, that's why, although I still love BfP and UtP, they'll never be my > favorite albums. Tori's lyrics have gotten so obscure and bizarre, that I don't > feel as strong a connection to the songs. It doesn't mean that I don't > appreciate the lyrics, just that they don't make me go, "Yes, that's it!" And > that's why I will forever be just a little disappointed in both of these albums. We truly are opposites, because while I like LE each album as it's appeared has made me more and more impressed with Tori--her music and lyrics have gotten more expansive and more and more her own--to me, deeper and wider and less influenced by mainstream pop and what she thinks she should do. I find her more impressionistic style of the lyrics in UTP and BfP offers me more to think about than the more concrete style of LE. Not that I don't like them, but they seem more set in their meanings, and while I can reflect on that I don't find myself finding more and more in them the way I did in her later work. I dunno--the further she's gone the more I've been willing and interested in following her there, and the more enamoured of her work I've become. - --Neile neile@u.washington.edu http://weber.u.washington.edu/~neile/ ------------------------------ From: Richard Holmes Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 12:32:15 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Quesion of the day Neile writes: >I find her more impressionistic style of the lyrics in UTP and BfP offers >me more to think about than the more concrete style of LE. Not that I >don't like them, but they seem more set in their meanings, and while I can >reflect on that I don't find myself finding more and more in them the way >I did in her later work. > >I dunno--the further she's gone the more I've been willing and interested in >following her there, and the more enamoured of her work I've become. I think I agree here... of course it depends on the mood. I find I really like lyrics that speak on many different levels, like BfP's lyrics do. I also think that sometimes I may be interpreting them on different levels, even more than the artist does - perhaps the artist meant something mundane and I'm just perceiving more than wasa intended. Not that this is bad, but sometimes I'm glad to know that it was intentional as well. BfP seems intentional to me. - -Richard. \@/ | Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) \|/ | "Drum to your future, Sing your dreams alive!" , , | , , ' ' ' ' ' Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush / Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes / Dar Williams / Renaissance / Sheila Chandra / Laura Love / Jane Siberry / Fairport Convention / Kiva / Libana/ Danielle Dax / Dog Faced Hermans ------------------------------ From: Grendel The Spectacular Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 09:00:15 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Erm... How do I subscribe to ToriNews? I've just tried all the usual methods (Majordomo, etc), but nowt works. Help! :( Paul :) ============================================================================ "I'm trying not to move, it's just your ghost passing through" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- St Aidan's College, University Of Durham. http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du ============================================================================ ------------------------------ From: Adam Thomas Heath Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 15:44:03 -0600 (CST) Subject: Goodbye Well, I am off for spring break now. Going to Nashville, Tennessee. Hopefully I will be able to pick up some cool tori stuff while I am there. Does anyone know what is exactly going to happen with talula? Adam ------------------------------ From: Dana Weiner Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 16:05:24 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Re[2]: Quesion of the day I'd have to agree with Neile in thatI grow more and more enamored with Tori's music and lyrics as time grows by. I have love for all three of her albums, but I think that the changes she has made in her style are positive changes and I enjoy them as a part of her growth as an artist. It took several listens for me to begin to understand BfP as an album, but now it absolutely mesmerizes me. I think that it is wonderful to be able to see how much she has changed in the last several years. - -Dana d1weiner@ucsd.edu ------------------------------ From: "E. Stephen Mack" Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 16:06:40 -0800 Subject: Re: Erm... Paul Tweedy, who's recent review of Tori's Newcastle performance is archived in the Concert Reviews section of my website (URL below), asked: > How do I subscribe to ToriNews? I've just tried all the usual methods > (Majordomo, etc), but nowt works. Help! :( This is from the welcome information that John sent out: *TO SUBSCRIBE*, please e-mail johns@chihuly.com with a subject of "Subscribe Torinews", and put your e-mail address in the body of your message. Good luck! If anyone has any kind of reviews, set lists, anything from Tori's current tour -- please send me a copy to put up at Zeigen's Tori Amos Confessions, http://www.emf.net/~estephen/tori.html. Thanks... - --Zeigen (E. Stephen Mack) ------------------------------ From: heisler@cs.UMD.EDU Date: Fri, 8 Mar 1996 22:39:45 -0500 (EST) Subject: world cafe i was sniffing around at teh world cafe site. they are haveing areprise of the tori interview: (new!) TORI AMOS VISITS THE WORLD CAFE! Tune in to World Cafe April 6-8 (time and date may be different where you live - check your local listings for details!) for an encore presentation of David Dye's recent chat with Tori Amos... So what will they be talking about? You'll have to tune in to find out, but while you're waiting, we compiled a list of resources, both official and not, for Tori info on the 'net. And don't forget to click on the photo below for a momento of the visit from our photo gallery! would someone tell me how to find out where world cafe play on my local radio of if you know where it plays? (i am in teh dc area) tahkns debbie - -- You reap what you sow Put your face to the ground Here come the marching men Your colours wrapped around --Sisters of Mercy ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V1 #22 ************************************