From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #230 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, November 20 2001 Volume 06 : Number 230 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Tori Sighting in December Rolling Stone [MadDrizzle@aol.com] Re: kilborn [Brian K Tanaka ] it's your funeral [strange little woj ] tori tv [strange little woj ] Me and a Gun, Someone and a Cell Phone [Brian K Tanaka ] Tori's Wiccan? ["Tom xxxxx" ] Tori in english class ["Tom xxxxx" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 01:57:14 EST From: MadDrizzle@aol.com Subject: Tori Sighting in December Rolling Stone Hello Everyone! I'm surprised I haven't seen this here. There is a small Tori mention in the latest Rolling Stone (w/ Britney Spears on the cover). It's on pg. 46 under a section titled "Loose Talk." It's a quote from Rufus Wainwright which states: "She's very mystical in her demeanor. More like elfish, more like wood creature or a gnomish sex mom." - -Rufus Wainwright, on his touring partner, Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2001 23:47:16 -0800 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Re: kilborn On Sat, Nov 17, 2001 at 02:20:52PM -0500, strange little woj wrote: > when we last left our heroes, Brian K Tanaka exclaimed: ... > >The only disappointment was that Craig didn't chat with her after the > >performance. Oh well. > > you know, that's a common comment after a late night show appearance > (sometimes even escalating to complaints that the host wasted their time > talking to one of the other guests instead of tori!), > but i'm just in it for the music. ... Hrm... How 'bout skipping one guest and getting three songs!? ;-) - -bt ps. Thanks for fixing the subject header. Oopsy! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:47:33 -0500 From: strange little woj Subject: it's your funeral from tori was featured in the daily mail's night & day column "it's your funeral" this past weekend: Singer Tori Amos's beloved Cherokee grandfather instilled in her a strong belief in a spirit world where all our souls live on There was a time when I felt immortal, particularly in my late twenties - I think that's the only you survive them. As a teenager I wasn't so arrogant: I had a healthy respect for nature. But in my twenties, I would do quite dangerious things. I was a real vigilante if there had been an injustice. I'd chase carfuls of men who cut in front of me on the motorway. Now, I no longer feel any sense of immortality and I no longer take such risks. I don't want to die, especially now that I'm a mother. I'd like to live to 80 and be called "granny". I'm a church ministers daughter and my parents were ferocious in their belief that there is a Heaven and Hell. I was drawn to my maternal Grandfather. He was a haven for me, a lighthouse. A cherokee, his belief in the spirit world was fluid and warm, not scary in the least. Death, in his view, was part of life. We would die but our soul would continue and there was a Great Spirit that touched everything He would talk to me about having a relationship with the spirit world; just because you can't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. He taught me that I needed to respect this, or I wasn't living life to the full. He was very keen to instil in me a philosophy that was not in conflict with the land. he would say "you need to be very aware of the laws of your ancestors. Then you will be able to walk the land, and in both worlds." Heaven and Hell were not part of his vocabulary, except to make fun of them. His ideas created some family difficulties. his daughter had married into a family with a very different belief system. The early Amoses were all buried in the Appalachian Mountains in Maryland. My parents have continued the tradition by having their plots picked out there. They even have their gravestones waiting for them. But I don't want to be buried. My Grandmother was convinced i should be burned as a witch and I think that's probably right, that's how I should go. I think fire is cleansing and beautiful. So i definitely want to be cremated and not put in a confined space. I don't have anywhere in mind that I would want my ashes to go to - at least not yet. If I did, I wouldn't say because certain things are private and sacred. It's my belief that you ditch the body and all the stuff that made you then goes somewhere else, but I don't know where. Although I don't believe in Heaven and Hell I do believe all our souls go on. Not necessarily on Earth - - it's a vast universe after all. I don't know how we would reform, but I think we would find matter and consciousness would take root. I've had things happen to me - some health scares, three miscarriages - that have given me a great respect for life, the miracle of it. I have a lot of respect for the realm of death. I was raped once and thought at the time I was going to die. I didn't think I was going to make it out of there alive. The idea that I hadn't had the chance to tell my mother goodbye was the thing that really kept me thinking and focussed and saved my life. Anger in that sort of situation doesn't work. Anger is not what gets you out. The three miscarriages were deaths. I had been warned just before the last one that things weren't going well, but I had to do a show in London so, before the show I went to Westminster Abbey, where I lit a candle and said a prayer - in my own way. We all find our own truth in religion, whichever it may be. We must not simply wait for death to take us. Assuming that as we get older we don't have anything to contribute is a victim mentality. We don't value our older people in the West. But not all old people necessarily have wisdom. Just because your old, doesn't mean you're wise. you have to really do the work. I don't want to sit on the sidelines and not value the gift of being here. Instead of the idea of time ticking away, the grains of sand running out, I try to think of time as giving me another grain of sand, another gift. So time passing is an accumulation, rather than a diminishing." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 11:29:08 -0500 From: strange little woj Subject: tori tv according to various tv listings (rockontv.com, tv.yahoo.com, etc.) tori will be on mtv2 links on mtv2 this coming weekend. the mtv website has nothing to say about this show (anyone know what it's about?), but it does confirm that the show is on at the listed times: * MTV2, Sat Nov 24 03:30pm EST * MTV2, Sun Nov 25 06:00pm EST * MTV2, Mon Nov 26 03:00pm EST also, rockontv.com indicates that comedy central will be repeating the saturday night live originally aired on 20 january 1996 twice in december: * COM, Sun Dec 2 03:00pm EST * COM, Thu Dec 20 05:00pm EST tori performed "caught a lite sneeze" and "hey jupiter" during the original broadcast, but i suspect, as is usually the case for snl re-runs, that only one of songs will be shown. also, for the record, here's tori's rockontv.com page: http://www.musicstation.com/cgi-bin/rotv/rotv_cgi?search_type=artist_exact&sort_by=artist&type=tv&search=149452 woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 10:58:13 -0800 From: Brian K Tanaka Subject: Me and a Gun, Someone and a Cell Phone I feel a rant coming on... I was just reading the Nov 17th Los Angeles reviews and there's yet ANOTHER report of a cell phone going off during Me and a Gun! Grrr! I've read about that happening at a bunch of shows and witnessed it myself at the Seattle show. What's the deal? Don't cell phones turn off these days, or at least have a vibrate mode? (I'm being sarcastic; don't answer that. Heh.) Rudeness abounds! OK. My futile rant is done. - -bt ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:18:59 +0000 From: "Tom xxxxx" Subject: Tori's Wiccan? Hi all. In the article found at the link below it says Tori practices Wicca. Does anyone know if this is true? I know we discussed Tori's religion a while back and came to no conclusions. Has something changed? Has she come out of the broom closet? I'd really like to know. Any and all info appreciated. Here's the site: http://www.lifetimetv.com/home/article_wicca.html Thanks. toodles, Tom "All the carnage of my journeys makes it harder to be livin' He said, 'It's a long road to be forgiven." Amy Ray, "Chickenman" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Nov 2001 22:28:55 +0000 From: "Tom xxxxx" Subject: Tori in english class Hello. I am asking for suggestions for using Tori in an English class. Here's the scoop: My best friend teaches high school english. In her senior class, there is a section on feminism. My friend was asking me for some poetry suggestions . Half jokingly, I suggested going really modern and using Tori and Ani DiFranco. She loved the idea, and, as a Tori fan herself, started thinking of Tori songs to use. She asked me to ask you guys for suggestions. Here are the criteria: 1)must deal with some pertinent feminine issue (i.e. men, parents, religion, etc.) 2)must be accessible, meaning to stay away from some of the harder to understand songs (examples: "iieee," "Hotel") 3)cannot have foul language or blatant sexual references (in other words, "Professional Widow," "Icicle," and "Precious Things" are out) Lastly, she is thinking of "Me and a Gun," but is not sure if that is the direction she wants to go in. So, no one needs to recommend that one. Any suggestions are welcome and appreciated. I'm looking forward to seeing your ideas. Thanks a bunch, Tom "All the carnage of my journeys makes it harder to be livin' He said, 'It's a long road to be forgiven." Amy Ray, "Chickenman" ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #230 *************************************