From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #216 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, November 3 2001 Volume 06 : Number 216 Today's Subjects: ----------------- tori's 'CFG' on mtv's dismissed [JNe9027355@aol.com] Re: Satin Worship [JNe9027355@aol.com] RE: Satin Worship [ekrone1 ] tori on austin radio [strange little woj ] Re: tori on austin radio [Cruel2000@aol.com] Hi all! We're back ~ [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] Tori's lipgloss [MichelleRCobb@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 02:08:08 EST From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: tori's 'CFG' on mtv's dismissed yea, they played a snippet of the intro melody, while these absolute duffs sashayed down the beach trying to figure each other out. AJ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 02:24:21 EST From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: Satin Worship In a message dated 10/12/2001 9:22:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > Subject: RE: TOUR MERCH? > > >Base ball t that says worship satan, > > actually it says Satin Worship...as in a play on words...you know satin > satan. :) > > wendi the whole Satin Worship gimcrack is brillant! i can't wait to get a shirt of it @ the concert. I'm trying to get or make satin forearm cuffs to go along with it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 08:49:46 -0500 From: ekrone1 Subject: RE: Satin Worship If you dont mind paying 35$ for a shirt you could make at a stand at the mall for less. (and i did buy a tour shirt as well) >===== Original Message From JNe9027355@aol.com ===== >In a message dated 10/12/2001 9:22:44 PM Pacific Standard Time, >owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > >> Subject: RE: TOUR MERCH? >> >> >Base ball t that says worship satan, >> >> actually it says Satin Worship...as in a play on words...you know satin >> satan. :) >> >> wendi > >the whole Satin Worship gimcrack is brillant! i can't wait to get a shirt of >it @ the concert. I'm trying to get or make satin forearm cuffs to go along >with it. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 02 Nov 2001 08:47:43 -0500 From: strange little woj Subject: tori on austin radio posted to the dent forum : Tori will be on Mix 94.7 radio tomorrow at 2:30 p.m. So says the voice on the radio. of course, this can't be confirmed at the mix 94.7 website , but that's not too surprising since these radio appearances are often touch-and-go kinds of things. it's not clear if mix 94.7 webcasts their signal or not, but if you can find a stream, don't forget that it's 2:30pm central time. check your local time zone. woj ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 15:58:24 EST From: Cruel2000@aol.com Subject: Re: tori on austin radio In a message dated 11/2/2001 7:52:44 AM Central Standard Time, woj@smoe.org writes: > posted to the dent forum http://www.atforumz.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=89021 >: > > Tori will be on Mix 94.7 radio tomorrow at 2:30 p.m. > > So says the voice on the radio. > > of course, this can't be confirmed at the mix 94.7 website http://www.mix947.com/ >, but that's not too surprising since these radio > appearances are often touch-and-go kinds of things. > > it's not clear if mix 94.7 webcasts their signal or not, but if you can > find a stream, don't forget that it's 2:30pm central time. check your local > time zone. > > woj > Hey! Well I live in New York City now, but until recently, my mom managed this radio station. My aunt still works there. They called me earlier to tell me about this... they said that unfortunately, even if i were there, i would not be able to meet her... they said they will be "sneaking her in and right back out".... they say she will NOT be singing, but just talking. interesting though! - -kristopher ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 17:30:52 EST From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Hi all! We're back ~ Hi Ya EWF ~ Hey All! Jim & I are baaack! Looks like interesting going's on while we've been away. First off, let me say: I'm married! I'm now the lucky Mrs. Jim :-) (Though I'm still MysT, now & forever more. MysT has a handsome Mr. now :-) The wedding was Wonderful!!! We got married in gorgeous Monterey, California & then went off to our 2 week cruise on Royal Caribbean's Rhapsody of the Seas. The destination was sailing through the Panama Canal with stops at Cabo San Lucas; Mexico, Acapulco; Mexico, Puntarenas; Costa Rica, Cartagena; Colombia, and finally Galveston, Texas. We had a beautiful spacious suite and a huge private balcony. One morning we saw 40 or so dolphins swimming next to the ship. One pair was a Mommy & baby - just precious! We ate, cuddled, danced, ate, swam, ate, shopped, stayed up late & slept in as late as we wanted - never having to do anything. Two full wonderful sexy weeks alone with my beloved - It was pure heaven. :::smile:sigh::: Want to vacation in style while being pampered royally? CRUISE! OK, so WoW! Tori sang "Thank You" in Boston! That & Tear In Your Hand are the two I'd most want to hear. I'd be blissed out big time. I don't cry at shows. But I do go a tad bit spacey sometimes. Don't talk to me during the show though. I'm not trying to be rude, I just won't even hear you. I'm not *there* if you know what I mean. All my show dates are coming this month, so I'll make the request and cross my fingers. I'm so happy to hear that everyone is having fantastic experiences at the shows so far, getting blown away by the show, meeting fellow EWF, some meeting Tori, Enjoying life. That's what its all about :-) I'm looking forward to the intimate vibe I'm hearing so much about. I've enjoyed reading your experiences. Richard Handal, my EWF friend, you have a gift. :::MysT smiles to herself & high 5's the Happiness Vampire::: We were SOOO right about her leaving Atlantic. Most excellent. We are just too smart for our britches rta my dear friend. ~~ :::Serious MysT wakes from her long slumber::: I want to say this about the whole rape convo. If woj feels the need to edit this out then its his right, but I hope it stays. What's wrong with some of you? Do you not listen to MAAG? Do you not read her interviews about the situation? Tori changed the implement used to threaten her into submission - but that's all. I am sooo glad I was not here when this convo was going on. I would have lost my cool big time. (One of my Dad's phrases.) OK, so someone was confused that it was called rape & yet *only* talked about the knife & her being forced to sing, but not about "as he buttoned down his pants"? Uhhh, he was buttoning down his pants tooooo... get some air to Mr Happy while she sang? He had chafing? C'mon now, think! So, fellow EWF, what exactly did you want? An intimate account of the penetration? Blow by agonizing blow? Did you need to see that he violently ripped down her pants & put his dirty hands inside her underwear to her most private parts? Did you need to hear how he forced his penis into her? What about when he was spewing those violent ugly hateful words meant to demean her? How about when he was holding that knife to her throat? Screaming at her? Hurting her body, her mind & her soul? Taking away her feelings of safety, her owning her own sexuality and changing her forever. Now put all that into a song. All the detailed violence and degradation. Sit for a minute and imagine what that would be like. Instead Tori gave us enough details, all that was needed, and shared her pain, fear, confusion and drive to live. He penetrated her without her consent. That's rape. That's why Tori called it rape. Read the MAAG lyrics, read the articles where she has spoken about the experience, specially the one woj printed. Go to the related websites that have been born since MAAG. If she had been kidnapped, she would have called it kidnapping. If it would have been assault, she would have called her experience assault. While Tori does frequently talk in symbolism & metaphor that require thought and interpretation, some things ARE indeed black and white. Tori's experience with that man was black and white - it was rape. To sit back all these years later and pick apart the experience, HER experience, one which we did not personally go through with her, tear it apart, question its parts, question *her* - is, to me, sooo much like her being raped again. I won't have it. Not with her. Not with anyone I care about. Not with another female, male, child or adult. In times past the aftermath of rape frequently re-victimized the victim. As EWF, humans, thinking & feeling compassionate beings we can choose not to go down that road. I choose not to. Do you? This is what is important to me now - She is beyond it. Magic happened - she healed. Time & life and love healed. People who cared were put in her path. Some were there for a short time, some longer, and many remain. She has her parents love, caring friends, a loving husband and the baby she wanted for so long. Life & time can heal. Tori continues to sing MAAG for those that need to hear it. Each & every day thousands of rapes occur. Each day someone who needs to hear this very important song hears it for the very first time. Frequently it is the spark that ignites healing. Tori's life has moved beyond the rape. Tori continues to sing MAAG, compassion gently asks her to. Someone mentioned that sometimes women mask a mistake sexual encounter, one in which they consented but later regretted, and called it rape. Those are few, most are later admitted as lies. To some this colors rape in a questionable light, even taking away the validity of those genuinely raped. One step back. Tori's Me and a Gun - many giant steps forward. I am not trying to reopen wounds or restart an argument. I just wish people would think. I have never been raped. I am lucky. I have genuine compassion for those who have. Because of Tori, MAAG & RAINN I became involved in my local rape crisis center. As a volunteer I wanted to get out there, help. I wanted the balls-out assignment of dealing with the victims. This is how I thought I could help. However, with no training, and I mean classes, certificates, etc., I couldn't help in that way. So, I stuffed envelopes, got coffee and became the all-purpose go-for. I learned. I absorbed. I heard things that made me sick. I saw courage that made me proud to be a woman. I've been blessed to have Tori lock eyes with mine as she sings MAAG. I hope she can see, sense, feel my compassion. I think she does. And that's my 2 cents - delivered by bazooka. Happy to be back Toodles ~ Glowing New Bride MysT *Under the ODD auction category comes this current gem entitled "A lock of hair from Tori Amos So rare!!!": http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1480388245 Reminds me of the dubious ?genuine? Tori water bottle from 18 mos ago or so, complete with lipstick smudges and a bit of water remaining. Gee, is that actual Tori saliva mixed with that H2O? Damn, here's my bid! (I don't THINK so!) If anyone is or knows this Tori hair seller let me know. While marginally attempting to remain unbiased (can you tell?) I did research to find he or she is into Charles Manson. Could be creepy, could be genuinely sane. Fascinating either way. Sick lying mind or generous holder of dyed follicle protein. Interesting, yes? **A belated Merry Samhain )O( Happy Halloween to everyone! (Where it *literally* is a dead man's party.) www.witchway.net >^..^< *** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 2 Nov 2001 18:48:46 EST From: MichelleRCobb@aol.com Subject: Tori's lipgloss Hi all, I have a question regarding the lipgloss that Tori speaks of in the Nov issue of Rolling Stone. She states that she has one called Fresh. I was wondering if anyone knows anything about this one. Is that the brand or the name for a particular gloss within a brand??????? Obviously, I don't know and it seems like I have seen it somewhere before and am curious to know. If anyone has any info on this please let me know. You can privately email me or just send it back through precious-things either way. Any help would be greatly appreciated!!!!! Thanks and everyone enjoy the shows!! Michelle "she's been everybody else's girl maybe one day she'll be her own...........one day, maybe one day, one day she'll be her own" Tori ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #216 *************************************