From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #194 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, October 11 2001 Volume 06 : Number 194 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: precious-things-digest V6 #193 [JNe9027355@aol.com] Re: precious-things-digest V6 #193 [JNe9027355@aol.com] i need SEATTLE tix. [JNe9027355@aol.com] MysT & Jim's BIG Day is here! ~ [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] 1st Beacon Show (long!) ["Tom xxxxx" ] Austin tickets for sale [Cynthia Frese ] Re: SLG covers we wish and a Question for Toriphiles Experts! [strange li] Re: two questions [strange little woj ] Re: Re: two questions [nadyne@mindspring.com] Re: How the 4 retailers cards work ~ [strange little woj ] Re: Meet and Greet Questions [strange little woj ] Re: RW [strange little woj ] Re: CALS question. [strange little woj ] dallas show [ToriLiscious@cs.com] I have 2 extra NYC tix for tomorrow ["Beth KT" Daniel > > P/S: I also downloaded some wierd unofficial remixes called Caught a Lite > Sneeze (Cold water remix), and Caught a Lite Sneeze (Wintermute Remix), IF > you > have heard them, PLEASE mail me with your toughs on them! :) please send these to me if u can...file transfer via AIM perhaps? get back to me, AJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 01:41:30 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V6 #193 In a message dated 10/9/2001 10:21:45 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > But I would REALLY like you to post on the list or post me, what > you think > of my interpretation, no matter if you like it or not. But I just want to > hear > your thoughs, because > when I Post these things, nobody answers me and I end up not knowing what > you > thing :) > Bye > Daniel. > hey thats cool you care! i opine whenever, best way to get the scoop is reach me via AIM. aj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 01:42:03 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: i need SEATTLE tix. just one, or 2 if possible....please help AJ ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 03:11:38 EDT From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: MysT & Jim's BIG Day is here! ~ Hi ya EWF ~ Well, it's that time. Jim & I get married this Friday nite & then we are off on our extended Honeymoon :-) Those going to see Tori - Have a GREAT time! And don't forget your binoculars. I'll be back November 1st. If you send an email to me I can't respond until after that. (I'd give ya all my hotmail email - the only one I can access onboard ship - but its 50 cents a minute! I'm thinkin', Naaaaa, email will keep 'til 11/01). Take good care my EWF friends. Happy Halloween, Blessed Samhain & God Bless America. Pray I *don't* get lost on my Wedding Day Toodles ~ MysT *Thanks muchly to Michael for getting the ticket to my best friend Gary. He'll be the big, handsome, smilin' bald guy sittin' next to ya Sunday nite. Ask nicely & just maybe he'll show ya a pic of Moi :-) **OK, no cheering that MysT is quiet for 3 whole weeks! LMAO :-) *** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 15:30:17 +0000 From: "Tom xxxxx" Subject: 1st Beacon Show (long!) Hi, y'all. I've noticed a few requests for concert reviews, so I thought I'd contribute my $.02. First of all, the Beacon is a lovely venue. I'd never been there before, but it is just gorgeous. It looks really old, like maybe 1920's. I had second row Loge seats, which turned out to be great. We were almost directly across from Tori and could make out some of her expressions. I highly recommend going to the Beacon for concerts. Rufus was good. I'm not a fan, but he did a good show. I think I'd like to check out his music in the future. '97 B &C: disturbing, powerful, a creepy, fantastic opener. I love the torn curtain and phantasmagoric lights. Can anyone confirm if Tori is actually reciting this live, or is it a recording? It sounded live to me, but I couldn't tell. Tori comes out in this gray or green jacket and pants. The pants end up being split, as later in the show I saw some definite leg. She had fishnets underneath and wore black heels. She came out waved, did a little bow, and went back to the piano. Then: Icicle: long piano intro (I thought it was Mother at first and would've probably died of excitement right there on the spot). Lots of vocalizations and piano witchery. Drunk woman in front of me is bouncing so much in her seat, I thought she would fall off. Enjoy the Silence: nice. didn't seem too different than the CD version. Drunk woman sings way too loudly. She asks how we are and says that you guys are teaching the world many things right now. Says it's a privilege to play for us. I think this is when she told her diaper story Rattlesnakes: awesome! played the piano and rhodes simultaneously and alternately. She slowed this one down somewhat, but also cut loose on the vocals. Cooling: wonderful. Nice lighting (reds and oranges). She skipped the "do I hate what she is" verse as she does on Venus. One of the songs I most wanted to hear. She talked about how she sets things on fire accidentally all the time and that's bad when you have a little one. But she likes to live near the water because the water is nice. She said she wrote the next one while living by the water, loving by the water. Pandora's Aquarium: Tori played this very well and gave the song some real life. The gently moving lights made it feel like I was in an aquarium. BQ/Horses: awesome! She skipped a couple of verses then stopped and said "oh I fucked up." She improved a few lines about a girl, ending with "and she said, 'I got me some horses." Great save. Spring Haze: really cut loose on the piano. I think this girl may be better solo. OK, the drunk woman in front of me practically fucked her boyfriend during this song. She was completely obnoxious and I really didn't need to see a live sex show at a Tori concert. Cool on Your Island: I'd never heard this before and it kicked ass. She played it on the Rhodes. The lights on the backdrop spiraled and turned like ripples. Doughnut Song: started with the "if you say it's over part." Powerful. If I wasnt' sitting I would've been knocked on my ass. It took me three shows to hear this one, but it was worth the wait. Sweet Dreams: played on the Bose. Not too much different than studio version, except it was a little slower with a bit of a jazz feel. Moves over the Wurlitzer. Talks about it belonging to Country Joe and the Fish Crucify: wow! the organ gives this song a really rich feel. She played for a long time between each of the first few lines. In the second verse, she stopped and asked Marcel what the noise was. "Is it us or them?" she said pointing to the audience. Goes back into song. Me And a Gun: I have nothing to add to this. It is as powerful as everyone says. The bright white light really works. Drunk woman's boyfriend says something to girlfriend during this but is silenced by cool girl next to me. Baker Baker: cool. Kind of anticlimatic after Gun. - ----------- China: played beautifully with a pretty long piano intro. Tori's vocals were angelic. Thank Heaven for Little Boys: eh. nicely played, but would rather have heard one of Tori's own songs. Funny ending. Over the Rainbow: beautiful. A total surprise. I screamed "Merman" right a the beginning, knowing she played the previous song as an intro to Merman at the DC show. Oh well. No Merman came tonight. - -------- Purple People: Played beautifully. Hey Jupiter: Played on Rhodes and Bose. The Rhodes gave this song a lot more beauty and power. It sounded a bit like the Dakota version with no drum machines. After-show M&G was a mob scene. I have to say to the blonde girl who body checked me out of the way you are a rude, bad fan. I hope you enjoyed your hug from Tori, knowing that you were pushy and rude and interfered in lots of other people having a good time to get it. Please, please folks, be considerate at the meet and greets. No one has any more or less right to be there than you, and if you get there late and there's a bunch of people in front of you, that's your problem. I swear, if I get body checked at Philly, I'll body check right back! Tori was generous with her time and talked to as many people and signed as many things as she could. I yelled over the crowd, "Thanks for Doughnut Song tonight," and she said "oh, you're welcome." She couldn't hug the boy in front of me who asked for one, so she reached out and rubbed his head. I could've touched her hand, as it was only about a foot from my face. She had a beautiful diamond ring on and I could see part of the set list scrawled on her hand. I could only make out Icicle. Depsite drunk woman and body-check girl, I had a great time. More importantly, my cousin had a great time. This was her first Tori show. It was great to watch her be totally blown away by the show. Hope none of y'all were bored. On to Philly! Tom _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 10:01:05 -0500 From: Cynthia Frese Subject: Austin tickets for sale I live in Austin and have 2 extra tickets to the sold out PAC show here at UT. The seats are really good- front row center first balcony. Tha PAC is the kind of place where you could see a ballet and sit confortably indoors. There are two balconies and being in the fron o f the first will probably allow Tori to be more at eye level than the front row and the sound should be great. I know it may seem greedy, but I really need to make a profit on these tickets so I want to sell them for $150 each. If interested, contact me via personal mail. Thanks, Cynthia [moderator's note: i told cynthia i'd forward her note to the list, but that i couldn't guarantee a flame-free existance because of the mark-up she's asking. if you feel the need to comment on her offer, please do so in personal e-mail since she's not a subscriber. woj] ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:10:47 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: SLG covers we wish and a Question for Toriphiles Experts! when we last left our heroes, Carlos Verrastro exclaimed: >1-I got Tori4s albums on cd from LE to Venus, I was wondering is it worth to >buy UTP, BFP, or LE and FTCGH on VINYL for reasons of difference in sound >quality ccompare to cd? well, i can't answer your question authoritatively, partly because the vinyl vs. cd debate is a matter of personal taste in addition to a matter of mastering and partly because, even though i own the vinyl editions of pink, pele and choirgirl, i've never listened to them! ;) i don't know if the vinyl releases of tori's albums were mastered differently from the cd releases but i would assume there are some differences in the process so as to tailor the sound for vinyl's capabilities. however, i do own several albums on both vinyl and cd and i have to say that while my personal preference is vinyl, i haven't found many albums *simultaneously released in both formats* which sound decidely better either way. i haven't tracked down the 180g earthquakes vinyl though. i would think that the thicker material would translate to longer-lasting sound quality as opposed to inherently better sound quality. anyone want to comment on that or the sound quality of that release? >(I have heard that on vinyl the Bvsendorfer sounds >more prominent as well as the harpsichord), IF anyone have this albums on both >formats, could you mail me and tell me if it4s any difference? to be honest, i haven't listened to the vinyl partly for collectorist reasons, but, when you get right down to it, i'm not that attached to maintaining the value of the vinyl. i'll try to find some time to do a proper comparison and will post the results when i do. keep reminding me though -- i forget to do a lot of the things i promise to! ;) >ALso, are the limited editions of UTP (the pink one) and BFP (the green one >and the transparent) nice enough to buy them as a collectors item ? they were intended to be limited edition collectors' items but it seems they are still both readily available for reasonable prices. personally, i think they are nice-to-haves but i could live without them (which is why i'll get around to breaking their seals and giving them a listen sooner or later). >2-Also, Has Tori stopped playing the harpsichord, will she ever play it ever >again ? i don't think anyone knows for sure. on this tour, as you know, she plays piano, synthesizer (anyone know which kind? i couldn't tell from way up in the upper balcony last night) and the wurlitzer. no harpichord. far as i know, she hasn't said anything either way about ever playing the harpsichord again so maybe it's just a matter of current taste. same thing goes for the harmonium too. woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:17:20 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: two questions when we last left our heroes, Prntr66051@aol.com exclaimed: >First off, is everyone going to buy all of the different cd covers just to >make your collection complete? nope! one's enough for me! singles, on the other hand, are an entirely different matter -- gotta have 'em all! fortunately for the wallet (though unfortunately for the b-sides collection), there haven't been any yet. >Does anyone know how many of each cover was published? there are four covers in north america: "strange little girl", "time", "raining blood" and "happiness is a warm gun". in europe and australia, it seems that "i don't like mondays" replaces "time" and the other three are the same. i haven't heard of any other covers being available anywhere else...but that doesn't mean there aren't any others out there. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 12:29:35 -0400 From: nadyne@mindspring.com Subject: Re: Re: two questions strange little woj wrote: > nope! one's enough for me! singles, on the other hand, are an > entirely different matter -- gotta have 'em all! fortunately for > the wallet (though unfortunately for the b-sides collection), there > haven't been any yet. Actually ... I've heard reports that the SLG single is out. A friend picked one up in Detroit. He said it was labelled as a German import, and had the bee-sides as they're listed on the Dent. The two bee-sides are only Tori and Bosey. /nm ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:30:16 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: How the 4 retailers cards work ~ when we last left our heroes, Mysterilady2001@cs.com exclaimed: > Well, it looks like MysT got caught giving away treasured secrets >'cause I went to go check out woj's question with my 2nd retailers card - >Happiness Is A Warm Gun. First screen, ok, second screen - the larger >popup screen & I get this NEW "checking browser..." notice, then the >following message: > > "Download Tori's new album and check out exclusive video > footage! You will have access to this content ONE TIME ONLY!" that happened when i tried to go back and enter my "new age" card pin a second time. when i first heard about the card, i thought it was a one-time thing, but i remember it working more than once. perhaps after the release of the album, the one-time-only use was activated to encourage people to go out any buy it? no wait, you had to pre-order the album to get the card. maybe they just figured that people would get the album immediately and wouldn't need to get to the site to listen to the liquid audio/windows media files. that would make sense. >To answer your question woj sweets, yeah, you get to see the video >shoot of the girl ON the download card you got the pin number from. well, since the "new age" photo shoot video is still streamable, i assume the other video shoots are as well. did anyone who viewed them note what the url of the stream was in their real player? boring as the "new age" one was, i'd still like to see the others sometime. for those who haven't seen it, the "new age" one is at: rtsp://real.wmg.com/Atlantic/Tori_Amos/tori_clips/video-tamos_indydcard-56mb .rm cut and paste that address into your real player's location bar to watch it. woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:49:53 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: Meet and Greet Questions when we last left our heroes, AnotherPilot@aol.com exclaimed: >I am going to be attending the meet and greet for Tori's Philadelphia show >and I have some questions as this is my first meet and greet: > >1.) I am getting there between 7:30 and 8:00am. Is this early enough? when tori arrives at the venue depends on what promotional stuff is planned for the day, but she usually gets there mid to late afternoon. the question, of course, is how early will everyone else show up to hopefully get a good spot at the barrier to meet her. i'd hope that people aren't spending hours outside waiting for her, but i imagine that's the case. any pre-show meet'n'greet stories from this tour? >2.) Where exactly do I go? Behind the venue, in front of, etc...? the stage entrance is usually the one she uses and it's usually in the back. just look for the crowd of people! ;) woj ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:37:43 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: RW when we last left our heroes, Mark Harbott exclaimed: >I was wondering what you guys thought of Tori choosing to tour with Rufus >Wainwright ? actually, does anyone know how much influence tori has on her opening acts? i imagine the decision is made as much by her as by the record label. while i suspect that tori has some sort of input into decision, i doubt it's hers alone. most likely, atlantic wanted to push rufus (isn't dreamworks an wea subsidiary?) and tori agreed to their suggestion. personally, i'm indifferent to rufus. i'm quite fond of his aunt sloan and sister martha though. +w ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 11 Oct 2001 00:41:37 -0400 From: strange little woj Subject: Re: CALS question. when we last left our heroes, Carlos Verrastro exclaimed: > I know there is an Unedited version for CALS, I downloaded and >listen to it. > But the quality was so bad that I cannot tell the difference to the >album version. > Could anyone tell what is the difference between CALS (unedited >version) and CALS (album version) ?. i think you mean the radio edit which was released on several promotional singles in the us and uk. the uneditted version would be the original from the album, right? unfortunately, i can't answer your question not having heard the edit. anyone? woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 19:21:09 EDT From: ToriLiscious@cs.com Subject: dallas show hey guys~ i need 2 tickets for the dallas show. i will admit my pickiness here and now; i want good seats. now i'm not expecting floor or anything, although this is the first show that i won't be right at the stage. i guess i'm being a little stuck up here, but i hate the fact that i may possibly have some of the worst seats in a small venue. all i want is to be able to see tori's face. my vision is 20/200 in one eye, and my dog ate my glasses (i swear, isn't that kinda funny?) so now I'm whining, I guess. But, I just want to see her face. is that too much to ask? I can probably pay around $80 a ticket if the seat is good enough. Email me privately. Thanks, Micah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2001 22:08:54 -0400 From: "Beth KT" Subject: I have 2 extra NYC tix for tomorrow Hi everyone~ Sadly, I have 2 extra tickets for NYC at the Beacon Theatre tomorrow (10/11 at 8:00 pm). They are good seats, orch row F seats 22 and 24 - that's 8th row I think off to the right. Please email me if you want them. You'd have to be in New Haven, CT sometime tomorrow so I can give them to you. Asking $100 or best offer for the pair. Thanks all. ~~peace~ beth :( _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #194 *************************************