From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #178 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, September 24 2001 Volume 06 : Number 178 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: cbs saturday morning ["Aileen Sharkie" ] Re: precious-things-digest V6 #177 ["Gareth Roach" ] Freedom of opinions. [Lina Correia ] Re: cbs saturday morning [ToVenusAndBack@webtv.net (Rob)] RE: precious-things-digest V6 #177 ["Jodi" ] copies of appearances ["Andrea Marsh" ] Tori on MTV [violet@torithoughts.org] I Need Indianapolis Tickets [VincePinnick@aol.com] I have Tickets for NYC [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: Tori Seattle Pre-Sale and Actual Sale Experience [Twinkle018@aol.com] Re: cbs saturday morning [ToriLiscious@cs.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 00:15:32 From: "Aileen Sharkie" Subject: Re: cbs saturday morning Hey all, just wanted to say hi seeing as how I'm new to this list and all. I don't want to get into how much my dear Tori means to me or anything because, honestly, I'd be ranting all day about her. I just wanted to ask those that saw cbs saturday morning..how was her performance? And did she get interviewed at all? To woj, I'd be interesting in getting a copy of either the letterman or the cbs saturday morning performance..maybe both:-P - -aileen >From: strange little woj >To: fiercest clams >Subject: cbs saturday morning >Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2001 14:52:28 -0400 > > >tori played john lennon's "imagine" this morning on cbs's saturday early >show. although toriamos.com said she would be playing more than one song, >this was all there was -- and it was cut short by a commercial break to >boot! they did come back and finish it up at the end of the show, using >tori's performance as the backing music and video while the credits were >rolling. a bit disappointing because of that, but not surprising since >that sort of thing has happened before on the program -- though the >times i've seen it happen, it is usually the second song which is cut >short. > >i recorded the clips on my tivo and can make copies for anyone who >would like one. i also have the other 2001 appearances so far (letterman >and regis) and can dub those as well. > >woj _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:53:12 +0100 From: "Gareth Roach" Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V6 #177 Below is a review of SLG from The North Wales Weekly News, September 20th edition. ALBUM OF THE WEEK Strange Little Girls - Tori Amos (Review by Steve Stratford) The concept behind this album sounds quite clever until you actually listen to it. Amos has taken 12 songs originally sung by men and performed them from a female perspective. The idea falls flat on its face because the only discernible change Amos has made is to slow them down and produce them differently. Having said that, the songs themselves are gems, from her manic rock-out version of Neil Yong's Heart of Gold, to her dark, gothic, Raining Blood by Slayer. The two masterpieces on the album are Eminem's 97 Bonnie and Clyde, which Amos has managed to change from a vaguely controversial rap track to a starkly disturbing a capella soundscape. It is truly one of the most unsettling things I have ever heard. An overlong version of the Beatles' Happiness is a Wam Gun mixes news reports of Lennon's death with every type of musical genre and vocal range imaginable. Amos is a genius, but sometimes she tries to be too clever, and fans of the original artists may not be pleased with what she has done. As she sings in Raining Blood, she must await the reprisals. (7/10) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 08:11:09 -0700 From: "Wilson Picket" Subject: MP3's of String Quartet Tribute Album??? Anyone have MP3's of this Tribute Album? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 12:50:03 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Tori and SLG Shana said: > Art is all about opinion. Well, no. There are plenty of ways to pass objective judgements on art, mainly involving making comparisons with other similar art, putting it into context, that sort of thing. I can't teach a class on this but I did take one once, and I'm sorry taking such classes is as rare as it seems to be. On the other hand, whether or not a work of art happens to *resonate* with someone or move them--or whether it leaves them cold--is an entirely different thing altogether. I think a lot of things affect one's response to a work of art which have nothing to do with the work itself. I think expectation has a lot to do with it--pre-concept, prejudice, whatever one wants to call it. I think if one has had a lot of exposure to many different kinds of art of the medium in question--painting, music, film-- then one is primed to receive as familiar, an ever-widening spectrum of art of that particular medium. I know some people who would just as soon eat spaghetti out of a can as eat anything else, and who would no sooner try Thai food or sushi than they would eat their shoes. I'm convinced that if they were able to overcome their fear of the unknown and try new foods they may find they enjoy them. The way I always figured it with food or art, if it was outside my usual experience but it was popular in an entire country or with certain societal groups, then, being humans all with mouths and ears built the same, there was a decent chance I could find in the food or music the same parts that those *other* humans were finding enjoyable. The main thing is letting go of my prejudice. Now, as omnivorous as I am musically, as well as with art and food, sometimes I just can't get to a place where I can appreciate the thing in question. 99.5% of all rap music leaves me scratching my head, and how those orientals enjoy all that gelatinous food I have no idea. Some things concerning taste seem to have too high a basis in culture. I'm sure if I were raised on gelatinous food I would appreciate it. I do have an appreciation for an extremely wide range of music, and it was cultivated with great application of effort. I also noticed that over time, things which were generally considered to be "acquired taste" often revealed themselves to me on an initial encounter. Openness combined with awareness seems to be the key. Having sermonized all of that, I want to say that I absolutely adore SLG. It's even the only Tori record I have ever listened to on repeat multiple times in a row. I love the sounds of the instruments, the sound of her voice, the arrangements, production, the overall sonic design--all of it. '97 Bonnie & Clyde is an amazing tour de force. The Shenale string arrangements are brilliant, and every syllable from Tori is inflected with perfection. It's quite overwhelming to me and I'm proud of her for exhibiting such brilliance. I love every song on the album, and it makes for an engaging but not a draining ride. I was thinking Saturday afternoon about quality reproduction of the album being a big aid to enjoying it. There's so much stuff going on down in the mix, I want to strongly advise folks who don't like it yet but who are willing to give it another try, to get to a really swell stereo where they can crank it up, or try some headphones if they haven't already. It's possible that some of you who think you don't like SLG literally haven't even heard a lot of it yet. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:35:33 -0700 From: Lina Correia Subject: Freedom of opinions. Hello all, I think this is my annual delurking. I'm pretty sure I send you an email per year which is good considering how much I talk. I just wanted to be opinionated, so here goes. The poor guy who is getting so much grief for voicing his opinion. Not everyone loves Tori as much as we do, I live with a sister who can't stand her, so I torture her with Tori's music, it's fun. Just remember everyone has a right to their choice in music, feel fortunate that we all have found Tori and enjoy her so much. I personally love the fact that every album is different, if they were the same, there would be no point to creating a new album. My favourite will always be Little Earthquakes but that's because it holds personal meaning to me. Each one should be enjoyed for it's own merit. When I first heard Choirgirl I couldn't stand it, and I thought Raspberry Swirl was an awful song. I believe everything needs a chance, the more I listen to her albums, the better they get to me. Of course now I'm moving around to Raspberry Swirl and I love it. This new one is great, I don't mind the fact that she didn't write this music, who cares. It's her voice, her little Tori ways in each song, it's her, you feel it, you enjoy it, you relish in it. Bonnie & Clyde is still too disturbing for me, but I believe that is the point, to be disturbed, to wake up, expect the unexpected. So, there's my 2 pennies of thoughts. To all of those in New York, my thoughts are with you. I can't believe how many times I have cried over this tragedy, it is just too much to comprehend. On a good note, you are never too old to try something new. I started piano lessons last week for the first time. Not because of Tori as most people I know think, but because it's something I've always wanted to do. Take the time to do those things you've always wanted, it feels really good to do so. Take care until next year :D, Lina ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 14:22:08 -0500 (CDT) From: ToVenusAndBack@webtv.net (Rob) Subject: Re: cbs saturday morning To answer your question, no, there was no interview. They simply introduced her about 52 minutes into the program stating that she would sing a special version of Lennon's "Imagine" recorded just for the CBS Morning Show. It was beautiful and went on for about 2 1/2 minutes, then abruptly cut to commercial. Which sucks. Then they came back to it and fisnished the song during the closing credits. She looked basically the same as on Letterman and Regis and Kelly. Long, straight, bright red hair. -Rob ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 16:13:20 -0400 From: "Jodi" Subject: RE: precious-things-digest V6 #177 ok, i agree with a bunch of stuff and disagree with the rest, buti think the main issue is its JUST tori amos. i know tha tmay be hard for some of you to hear, but she's JUST one musician. i used to be a self-proclaimed obsessor of tori, and i was. but honestly, it was only ever the music that i cared about. i got caught up in buying all the merchandise and knowing every detail about her personal life. then, i took a break. brought on by my lack of love for tvab, i started listening to a lot of other music. i discovered a lot about my tastes in music that i hadn't known before, and i looked honestly at my tori "obsession." i realized that the only way i can go back to tori is if its ONLY for the music. and it is. i love her music. i play it a lot more often now, and i play it on the piano as well. i have definitely come to terms with what was wrong about my tori obsession...its just not what music is meant for. lets be ears with feet, please lets not be fans. and lets give this album a chance. worse case scenario: you have to do what i did and pull away for a little while. you'll always have yoru love for tori and everything her music has enabled you to do. just love the music. or not. but don't lose sight of the fact that its just one album, and if you or someone you know doesn't like it, its not the end of the world. - -All my heart- Jodi http://talk.to/jodequa - ---------------------------------- "I wouldn't have kept my eyes glued to the ground If I had've known my invisibility Would not make a difference I would've run around screaming proudly At the top of my voice" - -Alanis Morissette - ---------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 19:32:35 -0400 From: "Andrea Marsh" Subject: copies of appearances Hello, I am new here and just thought I would say hello. I was sort of a late bloomer to Tori. I wasn't exposed to her until Choirgirl, but have been an ewf ever since. Pele is my favorite album. I love the different instruments used and how different it is from the previous two. I do happen to like her new album, I haven't listened to it quite as many times as I would like to yet, but so far my favorite song is 'I Don't Like Mondays'. But I don't want to get into that too much. I would also like to have copies of her appearances on Regis & Kelly and on The Saturday Early Show. I have her appearance on Letterman, but not Regis and only a few minutes of the Early Show. Altho I am not quite sure what a tivo is....perhaps I should find out before I ask for it b/c I'll be rather upset if I can't use it....so if you could email me personally at ANM1213@NetZero.net (unless you want to explain to the whole group what it is) and tell me what exactly it is and how to use it and how I can obtain copies from you. Much appreciated, ~~*~*~*~*lav~*~*~*~* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 17:16:07 -0700 From: violet@torithoughts.org Subject: Tori on MTV Tori was on an MTV show called "MTV Comes Together: Artists And Viewers Speak." Her segment was short, but her statement was: "Don't you think it's really important now that there's a forum, that we're talking about all sides of what happened September 11 and what led up to it? We need to do some research; we need to think about why is the world where it is? It's so deep-rooted, if we really start looking, and we might not like what we find. But I think we have to, we have to ask the questions." This show is (so far) scheduled to be repeated: Mon, Sept 24 at 7:00 AM Mon, Sept 24 at 12:00 PM One part of the MTV site (where you can click on "See All Air Dates") also shows that it's supposed to air "Monday 9/24, 12am" which is midnight tonight, but if you look at the schedule itself, it shows "Live At The Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame" being on then. Then, when you click the "See All Air Dates" for that program, it shows that the date for that airing listed as "Sunday 9/23, 12am" -- which technically was last night. So they may just have the dates on their 12am's screwed up, listing tonight's midnight as still being "Sunday" even though it's really Monday. If that's the case, the midnight showing will be on TOMORROW night. Midnights always seem to cause confusion like this. Check both nights just to be safe. Violet xoxox . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . _ . Are you a Toriphile? Are you strange? New for 2001 from ToriThoughts: the Strange Little Toriphile shirt! Order now. http://www.torithoughts.org/projects/sltshirts.html Order deadline: Monday, September 24th. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 20:51:14 EDT From: VincePinnick@aol.com Subject: I Need Indianapolis Tickets All, I need tickets to the Indianapolis show!! Please someone help me; I need at least 3 tickets! Vince VincePinnick@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 21:35:14 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: I have Tickets for NYC I have four tickets to sell. One pair for the first NYC show, in Row T of the Orchestra section, the second pair for Row F on the second night. Anyone interested? Please e-mail me. Black Dove PS- They are 50 each. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 21:51:59 EDT From: Twinkle018@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori Seattle Pre-Sale and Actual Sale Experience << I thought I scored great tickets. I had got Sec 4E, Row B... I thought, "Wow... maybe 2nd row." Nope. I'm far left of the stage in the wheelchair accessible aisle >> I must correct myself. I suppose these tickets are better than I thought. I realized that they are the box seats above to the side. I've always wanted those kind of seats. But, I figured this out after I have bid on some closer 6th row tickets on E-bay. Of course, I'll choose the 6th row over these. But, I should have done even more research. I will wait until I receive the 6th row tickets and verify that they are genuine before I count my eggs... but, sheesh... did I have to be so melodramatic? Yes, I probably did... lol. Thanks to all who sympathized and listened to me vent. Good Grief... Sky Falling and All, Desiree ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Sep 2001 22:32:55 EDT From: ToriLiscious@cs.com Subject: Re: cbs saturday morning i think it's been said before.. i dunno about on this list, but i've recently read it.. anyhow.. the cbs early morning "appearance" really pissed me off. it started with tori singing into a commercial break with IMAGINE. That's right. IMAGINE- LIVE, ON TV. but NOOOOOOO, they freaking cut her off after 30 freaking seconds!!! What were they thinking???? then after awhile, they played another part of the song, her singing of course, but no, of course they weren't showing her, they were showing footage that didn't even matter, a freaking horse drawn carraige, and then that guy (whoever it is) started talking about the situation of our country, completely cutting tori's beautiful voice off. sorry, i know the country's in a real important position now, but, it was imagine, and it was tori.. you understand, right?? it sucked, and it pissed me off. i was so freaking excited when she started playing, i was like, "omigod, she's f***ing playing imagine, omigod omigod" then they cut her off. i was reassured by the fact that she'd probably play the whole song later, or at least another one.. nope. danced around, waited 2 hrs to brush my teeth for nuthin'. that just puts another reason on my list of reasons to hate cbs. micah ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #178 *************************************