From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #133 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, August 6 2001 Volume 06 : Number 133 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: i remember my other questions [freakgirl ] Re: When Rabbit Howls [UnderH20thing@aol.com] Tori tickets ["Eric Souliere" ] RE: precious-things-digest V6 #132 [pcm23 ] Re: When Rabbit Howls [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] RE: i remember my other questions ["Matt DeWaal" ] Enjoy The Silence [the other white meat ] Re: Tori tickets [Erinita ] Re: Tori tickets [Danielle Marcial ] elle article [the other white meat ] Re: When Rabbit Howls [acopperbeechDryad ] the new EtS ["becka" ] strange little promotion [the other white meat ] Enjoy the Silence ["Kelly Stitzel" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:49:13 -0700 (PDT) From: freakgirl Subject: Re: i remember my other questions - --- Hicky3000@aol.com wrote: > also in the video during little amsterdam, she > mentions someone named phoebe. > who's that? Ah hah! I have no idea the answers to your questions, but when I saw Tori in 98, I kept hearing her sing Phoebe. I can't remember the songs, but it was in Portland or Seattle. I'm pretty sure Seattle and she did it a few times. I was wondering if Phoebe was the baby, but I have no idea. Great question. I'm glad to know that I'm not nuts. No one else I was with heard her sing Phoebe, but I did. Diana Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 21:27:26 EDT From: UnderH20thing@aol.com Subject: Re: When Rabbit Howls that's interesting because Tori has suggested to the EWF that they read the book.. I don't have a direct quote but it is a book that she suggested when someone asked. I heard that it is amazing. ...till next time see you in the dreamtime... Glitter Girl ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 03 Aug 2001 22:00:55 -0400 From: "Eric Souliere" Subject: Tori tickets Hi allSo I plan to get tickets to the NYC Beacon Theatre show (i think i can make the voyage from Boston) and I just wanted to make sure that tickets were being sold by Ticketmaster? I wouldn't want to find out otherwise when it's too late. Thank you and goodnightERIC - ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2001 06:11:26 -0400 From: pcm23 Subject: RE: precious-things-digest V6 #132 <<>> <<>> Just to throw my two cents into this one, i think the band was very beneficial in further developing Tori's sense of mood and set coherency at concerts. While there were obviously staples of the set that would appear almost regardless of mood, Tori's delivery could vary from timid to vicious on any given night and the band would follow her. The easiest answer to Karen's quote is "Waitress," which essentially started out as an improve piece to end the main setlist. Eventually Tori and the band had done it so many times that the ad-libs all sounded rehearsed, but i remember the posts from Plugged-Tour era and how everyone was always scrambling to describe Waitress from each show. The band was definitely equipped for jams; i don't know much about Jon Evans, but Matt Chamberlain is one of the most gifted drummers in today's popular music scene, and Steve Caton is bar-none the best lead/textural guitarist that i've ever seen in a live setting. If Tori wanted to go on a jam romp Matt would hold down the rhythm, Jon would follow the pattern of the chord changes, and Caton would just do what he's always done. I think there is a certain restrictiveness inherent to trying to integrate Tori's typical ad-libs that include massive lyrical rewrites and sudden changes in rhythm, but a quick look at Blood Roses, Iieee, or Precious Things (among others) can reveal the incredible tightness of the band as the followed Tori's whims from night to night. I'm honestly interested to see Tori solo on this tour, because i almost have a sneaking suspicion that it's an excuse to get out and do her older girls than it is to promote this album. The most interesting side of the tour for me will be seeing if Tori is willing to take solo stabs at ftch songs like Iieee, Cruel, Raspberry Swirl, & She's Your Cocaine. To my knowledge she's never played a good deal of that album solo (especially not Spark and Liquid Diamonds, despite their solo plausibility), whereas she's done a solo acoustic piano version of every song on tVaB except for 80's, Riot Poof and Datura. I suppose what it comes down to is i hope we hear adventurous things like the Jaurez solo version, and not just endless reiterations of the DDI catalogue. Tori tours and silly me took two night classes... damnnit. - -peter http://crush.uprush.org ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 12:50:18 EDT From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Re: When Rabbit Howls Hi Tasha & EWF ~ We had a discussion here on PT about this very thing several months ago. I read "When Rabbit Howls" years ago when it was first released. I can give you my opinion on your questions. I watched or should I say re-watched yesterdays show and was reminded how far Oprah has come -- success-wise -- in the last 10 years. Anyone else notice all the commercials? Commercials lasted longer than the segments, which was disappointing. When I heard Trudie was going to be on Oprah I told my kids and we made a concrete plan to watch. They were excited to see this woman speak whom I had told them about for years. I feel my kids are too young to read the book as its the most intense book I have ever read and childhood should not be haunted by those images. The abuse Trudie endures will stay with you for the rest of your life, I assure you. The interview with Oprah hardly scratched the surface of the terror she endured. I am VERY grateful to Oprah that she did the update on Trudie at the end of the show. You could see such a change in Trudie. The eyes are the window to the soul - In Trudie's eyes, whole face and the way she carried herself -- she looked at peace & happy. It did my heart good. What the show only mentioned briefly is that Rabbit is one of Trudie's near 100 selves. Rabbit is the One who carries the pain & anguish of the Troops trauma. Rabbit doesn't speak. She whimpers & howls (as the title eludes) in moments of excruciating pain. Now here's what will give you chills - Rabbit has a thing for hiding keys. Tori connection? Some say yes, some no. Only Tori knows for sure. "When Rabbit Howls" is NOT for the faint-hearted Toodles ~ MysT * I waited for Oprah to update that Trudie's evil stepfather/abuser was dead. Instead there was no mention of him at all. I figure Trudie's therapy has worked past this being something she needs to discuss. I, however, would be comforted knowing the man is agonizing in hell. If he's not now, He will be. ** Life is *still* good :-) *** In a message dated 8/3/01 10:23:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Tasha325@aol.com writes: << Date: Fri, 3 Aug 2001 17:24:39 EDT From: Tasha325@aol.com Subject: When Rabbit Howls the vintage oprah show today has trudy chase on, and she wrote a book called 'when rabbit howls' she was raped and abused by her stepfather from the ages of 2-16. and she split into 92 personalities. she says that the name of the book comes from the fact that a rabbit has no vocal cords but when they are wounded and/or dying they make a horrible howl/screech that is akin to the sound a victim makes when they are re-living the abuse. has anyone read this book? i am considering it. if so and even if not, does anyone think there is a tori connection with 'rabbit'? ~~t ~~and i fear my fear is greater than my faith, but i walk the missionary way.~ tori amos >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 17:03:25 -0400 From: "Matt DeWaal" Subject: RE: i remember my other questions > in the rainn video, before singing leather, tori says she's > singing it for > the first time for someone since she first wrote the song or > something like > that... who is it? it's a guy because she says he and i don't > think it's eric > because i'm sure he'd have heard it since the time she had written it. I always thought it was Maynard from Tool.. which would make sense.. would it not? But I don't know.. anyway care to clarify? Thank ya, Matthew DeWaal matt@nothing.on.ca Nothing OnLine Canada - - http://www.nothing.on.ca > business - - http://realworld.nothing.on.ca > personal - - icq: 107894 | Tel/Fax: (877) 773-5383 ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 15:34:13 -0400 From: the other white meat Subject: Enjoy The Silence >From: stewartj@seanet.com >Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 09:56:36 -0700 >To: torinews@smoe.org >Subject: Enjoy The Silence > >MP3s available at: > >http://www.habber.net/spark/tori_amos-enjoy_the_silence.mp3 > >or here: > >ftp://216.130.70.159/tori_amos-enjoy_the_silence.mp3 > >----------------------------------------------------------- >John Stewart, Seattle, Washington, USA >co-list-owner, Fumbling-Towards-Ecstasy >list-owner, ToriNews >stewartj@seanet.com >----------------------------------------------------------- >____________________________________________________________ >To unsubscribe from ToriNews, e-mail torinews-request@smoe.org with the >word "unsubscribe" in the message body. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 16:54:12 -0700 (PDT) From: Erinita Subject: Re: Tori tickets Yes, the Beacon Theatre is a Ticketmaster venue. All shows that take place there are handled by them. On Fri, 03 Aug 2001 22:00:55 -0400, Eric Souliere wrote: > > Hi allSo I plan to get tickets to the NYC Beacon Theatre show (i think i > can make the voyage from Boston) and I just wanted to make sure that > tickets were being sold by Ticketmaster? I wouldn't want to find out > otherwise when it's too late. Thank you and goodnightERIC > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _______________________________________________________ Send a cool gift with your E-Card http://www.bluemountain.com/giftcenter/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 13:18:01 -0700 (PDT) From: Danielle Marcial Subject: Re: Tori tickets Ahm..Tori's playing at the Beacon Theatre?!?! WHEN?! lol. :) Can ya fill me in, please? I'm a New Yawka. ~~*Danielle*~ - --- "Eric Souliere" > wrote: > >Hi allSo I plan to get tickets to the NYC Beacon Theatre show (i think i >can make the voyage from Boston) and I just wanted to make sure that >tickets were being sold by Ticketmaster? I wouldn't want to find out >otherwise when it's too late. Thank you and goodnightERIC > >------------------------------------------------------------------------ > >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _____________________________________________________________ Read and submit poetry at http://understatement.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 18:57:19 -0400 From: the other white meat Subject: elle article in case anyone has missed the elle article posted on the dent, there's a new photo from the album which we haven't seen yet. The photo has the caption, "Stories For Girls: It's a man's world--until Tori Amos gets through with it. There is also a small blurb of text near the photo that reads, "Almost Amos: Amos bends gender on Strange Little Girls." The title of Tori Amos's 1994 album Under the Pink succinctly sums up her songwriting. Amos goes deep, exploring the tender flesh of emotion beneath the skin; her dramatic vocals and piano resonate with the paradoxes and pleasures of human existence. Her latest, Strange Little Girls, follows form, except that for the first time, Amos--whose fans examine her every syllable for personal revelation--isn't singing her own material. Instead, Girls is a rogues' gallery of cover songs written by men about women--from the Beatles' "Happiness Is a Warm Gun" to Eminem's "'97 Bonnie and Clyde," in which the rapper describes killing his wife to his baby daughter. "The view changes depending on where you're standing," Amos says. "I had the opportunity to flip the script." Indeed, Amos brilliantly rewires the originals--10cc's soft-rock classic "I'm Not in Love" becomes a torchy trip-hop voyage a la Massive Attack--resulting in her most adventurous release yet. To explore the songs even further, she enlisted photographer Thomas Schenk and makeup artist Kevyn Aucoin to help her morph into characters that represent each track's reincarnation, which will be part of the album's artwork. For the Boomtown Rats' "I Don't Like Mondays," for example, Amos re-created herself as a Charlie's Angels-esque Texas ranger, replete with big hair, frosted lipstick, and an ironic BABE pendant; for Lloyd Cole's "Rattlesnakes," she donned a KISS leather jacket. "I'm not these people, but I can find each one inside," she says. "I'm not the mother of these songs--the men who wrote them are--but I became a sort of foster mom." Motherhood, as it were, played a key role in the conception of Girls, the thirty-eight-year-old Amos's first effort since giving birth last year to a daughter, a time when she began to dwell on male discourse and its ramifications for women. "I don't know what my daughter's choices will be in twenty years--any of our daughters could be these strange little girls," she says. "I didn't know that these words from men would take hold of me. I thought I'd find out something about them. Instead, I found something out about myself." - -- Matt Diehl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:02:26 -0400 From: acopperbeechDryad Subject: Re: When Rabbit Howls Tasha325@aol.com wrote: > has anyone read this book? i am considering it. > if so and even if not, does anyone think there is a tori connection with > 'rabbit'? i read the book when it was initially published. it is an amazing story, though if you are triggered by such should be read with caution. a lot of ppl have speculated on the rabbit connection to when rabbit howls, but that's never really been corroborated. tori has mentioned the book, but no specific connection to her "rabbit". some have speculated that tori's persona of rabbit is a bit schizo, but again... some ppl just dont get it ;) - -- ~ kelley acopperbeechDryad FINNatic #69 ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ so she woke up from where she was lying still said i gotta do something about where we're going ~U2 running to stand still ___________________ The Saferoom Project http://www.saferoom.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 5 Aug 2001 20:34:00 -0400 From: "becka" Subject: the new EtS well, once that mp3 link came across.. i immediately went and downloaded.. and i will say it's absolutely great to have such a clean mp3 to listen on the first listen*L* i listened to Enjoy the Silence, bout 5 times on repeat.. getting a feel for it.. the first verse i wasn't too keen... but as the song progressed,.. i began to get a much more better feel of it.. it's quite.. *dark*.. i love the simple piano and strings.. and the barely there accompiament vocals are lovely... i put it in with the rest of my mp3 list, so it'd be in rotation, and it's fitting quite nicely as is SLG and HofG.... so far, i've liked them all.. HofG was a bit off to me tho the first 30 times i heard it tho..but since being in rotation in my player i've gotten to enjoy it.. ~~cheers becka ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 21:41:35 -0400 From: the other white meat Subject: strange little promotion i was in my local rekkid store last week and the owner told me about a strange little girls promotion that atlantic records will be starting soon. participating independent retailers will be pre-selling copies of the album. those who pre-purchase will receive a "download card" which gives you a password to a special website where you can stream the entire album and view exclusive photos and video from the photo shoot that tori did for the "'97 bonnie and clyde" images. i'm not sure about the exact date this promotion starts but i was told it would be sometime soon. if i find out anything else, i'll pass it on. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 05 Aug 2001 20:51:13 -0400 From: "Kelly Stitzel" Subject: Enjoy the Silence Of all the songs I've heard from SLG so far, this one is by far my favorite. So simple and beatiful. This is going to be one eclectic album! BTW, this is my first posting to the list. I've been a Tori fan for many years. I took a break from Tori about a year ago, but recently got back into the swing of things when I started hearing things about the new album/tour. Can't wait! Kelly _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #133 *************************************