From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #131 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, August 2 2001 Volume 06 : Number 131 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Fw: dislike of tori music [Nadyne Mielke ] Music vs Marketing ["Richard Austin" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 30 Jul 2001 21:29:44 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Fw: dislike of tori music At 03:50 29-07-01 -0400, Hicky3000@aol.com wrote: [snip] >by the way, i have a question. what release is sarah cynthia... on? The only official release that this track appears on is "Speaking of Christmas and Other Things". It is a cassette put out in the early 90s by radio station KZON. For those of y'all who are members of the Tori-boot mailing list, I have compiled a database of all known Tori songs and what commercial release (if any) they exist on. It's available at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tori-boot/database At some point in the future, I plan to move this off of Yahoo! Groups so that it's available to a wider audience. I'm entirely too busy right now to do it, though. :) For those of you who aren't members of the Tori-boot mailing list, you can subscribe at: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/tori-boot/ HTH. :) /nm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:01:59 +0100 From: "Richard Austin" Subject: Music vs Marketing Hi Folks, Last digest was getting a bit warm :-) I think that I'd better come clean here - I'm a collector. Years ago I traded vinyl and got into the many wierd & wonderful variations on a theme to be had. I gave it up until I got into Tori. I guess that you're either a "squirrel" or not, and I am. I started collecting Tori almost by accident when I was trying to pick up the b-side back catalogue. It was when I got the second "Silent" CD and discovered that it was a printed over "MAAG" that I sort of got hooked. Then the two UK versions of LE that I got by accident (1991 & 1992). Once I got the b-sides I went hunting for the edits .... & so it went on. Curse that "collectibles" book !! I don't do it for the value - compare prices now to a year or so ago all you ebayers - but it's going to look good later on in the Museum ! I thought that Anthony's (mb083176@gte.net)post was great and very true. We know what the record company will do and they've been doing it for YEARS. Anyone remember the six Led Zeppelin sleeves ? I can't say that I'm happy about the multi-sleeves, but it fits with an album primarily designed to sell. As was pointed out in previous posts this will primarily hose the dedicated fans and completists. Before, any alternate versions had something musically different with extra songs, this will just be artwork. I shall scream if these come out in brown paper bags so you can't tell which one you get (Like Led Zeppelin). Hmmm... They were on Atlantic too :-) As regards the : << P.S. I love all the albums, but hate her mass marketing by sending different singles, covers, and versions of her albums but having her fans rabidly purchase them like fools thinking they will be worth something in the future. >> I can see exactly what you're saying, but The Fool is a happy card, off a-wandering and collecting naively, the future value never enters into the collector's head (other than when best to get rid of the spares that they inevitably end up with !!). 'Nuff said, I'm a happy saddo :-) I liked Karen's (hester@paradise.net.nz) post too. I must confess that I too found the last two albums more "studio" than the earlier ones. Some songs I love to pieces, but others I confess I prefer the stripped down versions. I guess that comes of living in the studio rather than booking time and going to one - more time to "play" - so more of the studio gets into the song by the time it's finished. One of the good things about collecting is that the single version of "Concertina" seems to work better than the album version. It was an interesting thought with the album parings too. I suppose I would be a "Pele & Choirgirl" too, but LE would still give Choirgirl a run for it's money. That's the beauty with music - it's very subjectivity means that different songs will mean different things to different people. My "acid test" is when my arms goosebump :-) "Northern Lad" is one of those - as is "Sneeze" (but it's the backing vocals that do it for me on that one !). What do other people think ? What would be YOUR pairing and why ? I don't collect bootlegs either ... just sort of ended up with them :-) but I have found more variation in the solo concerts than the band gigs - You can't freeform so easily when there are others depending on you to cue back in - The band shows are more of interest for the different interpretations of the songs rather than the gig event itself. I think that, while I'd be happy with as many individual solo gigs as I could listen to, an "every song the band every did" set would satisfy that side of my soul. How do others feel on that ? I'm really looking forward to the EVENTS that a solo tour will give us all - total freedom to feed for the musician and indeed, for the audience. Oops, long post .... All the best, RTA _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #131 *************************************