From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #95 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, June 6 2001 Volume 06 : Number 095 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: thank you! [Finney2567@aol.com] kate bush [sot] ["Hill, Renee" ] Re: precious-things-digest V6 #93 [JNe9027355@aol.com] Re: Tori's Eclecticism [JNe9027355@aol.com] Re: precious-things-digest V6 #93 [JNe9027355@aol.com] Re:MysT's vent ~ [JNe9027355@aol.com] Re: Re: I thought Tori did/contrasting body of music [JNe9027355@aol.com] advice on trading [Giovanni Mantilla ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 21:49:32 EDT From: Finney2567@aol.com Subject: Re: thank you! In a message dated 6/3/01 8:40:06 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Surreal00@aol.com writes: << Mallettdove@aol.com wrote: < never been to any of her concerts, >> Get back to me when you see her live. haha. No your right...but music does some strang things to people. And we all know tori's just another human who farts and all..but damn, the things she does with that piano, makes her above the rest of us. - -Finney p.s...totally missed the original post ..just yapping away ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2001 19:55:20 -0700 From: "Hill, Renee" Subject: kate bush [sot] semi-off topic... just thought i'd post and let you all know that i am listening to my very first kate bush album. I've been wondering for a while where all the comparisons come from - I've only heard Wuthering Heights and I didn't reeeeeally like it... but anyways, I obtained 'The Kick Inside' from one of my lovely rec. co friends, and...well, it hasn't GRABBED me yet, but I don't dislike it. I haven't had a chance to sit and study the lyrics yet - that's for the train ride home. But...yeah. There's my pointless 0.02 Renee xx ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:14:12 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V6 #93 In a message dated 6/2/2001 10:27:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > and another point to touch on, like myst said, yeah, > madonna does the change thing mainly for the money it > brings. but does tori? i rest my case.... > and what a good case in point to refer too. madonna, obviously, is the biggest opportunist if i've ever saw one! it doesn't make it bad, it's just pretty empty to be that way. She never looks happy or content... tori sticks to her shtick, i admire and appreciate that. She doesn't get all clubby with the glitterati of the industry. she keeps it REAL. AJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 03:49:17 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori's Eclecticism In a message dated 6/3/2001 10:49:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > Each to their own, or wouldn't the world be SOOOOOOO boring :-) > A little quickie to AJ, who I thought made some good comments : > > "whoa...he compared winter to datura? Um, someone needs to diagnose those > sounds a little better...cuz those songs are NOTHING, ABSOLUTELY NIL alike. > AJ" > > That's IRONY (a British thing) - LOL :-) > RTA > Ack! more confusing sardonic banter! ;D First i misunderstand the comparison..and now i don't gel with your british vernacular! perhaps that's the irony? (more of an Alanis thing..) AJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:16:10 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V6 #93 In a message dated 6/2/2001 10:27:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > << you are still a follower of hers >> > > I'm not a follower of hers. I just take a great interest in her music. I've > never been to any of her concerts, or met her, but I have read many many > reviews from people who have and I have read countless concert reviews and > interviews and I know basically what she's all about. That's all I really > need, just a general idea of her personality, I don't need to sit up until > three in the morning listening to tape recordings of her voice, or dye my > hair red, or to learn to play the piano, or spend countless hours, days > analyzing and interpreting her music. I don't think she's worth it really. > She is, after all, just another human being, a rather interesting and > strange > one, but still human. Thanks for stating the obvious...anyway, what i meant by "follower" is someone who follows--takes interest--in the person's craft. By paying attention you are following it. AJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 03:47:14 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re:MysT's vent ~ In a message dated 6/3/2001 10:49:03 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > Subject: MysT's vent ~ > > I need to say something - it was declared in the last PT that > another persons post was irrelevant. OK, I gotta say - that really > bugs me. I don't think its anyone's right to declare another's > thoughts/words irrelevant. People have a right to post their thoughts, > even if you don't agree with them. You can debate their post if you > choose, but I think its crap to declare what they say irrelevant. I > support everyone voicing their opinion, whether I agree with them > or not. I also think its crap for people to get personal, call names, > become vicious, etc., simply because you don't agree with them. > Stay on topic & debate the topic, don't tear down the person. I think you really misinterpreted my post.. i was declaring the issues he was pointing out irrelevant because they simply were not true--it was like saying "i hate tori's blue hair". That's what i meant by irrelevance. How could you not see that? i clarified it as much as possible. I was staying on topic, and i wasn't tearing anyone done--that being quite obvious. I was just pointing out the lack of VERACITY in the person's statements. Is that justified as wrong? And who called anyone name's here?? I haven't seen one direct insult in this particular discussion at all. AJ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Jun 2001 02:18:23 EDT From: JNe9027355@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: I thought Tori did/contrasting body of music In a message dated 6/2/2001 10:27:59 PM Pacific Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: > It may be different types of music, but it comes from all of the same people, > > and like someone else said, the amount of eclecticism that an audience > actually sees is limited. If she were experimenting with a whole new genre, > how would anyone even know unless she told them. She sings most of her songs > > in a similar 'Tori' way. Breathing some words out, screaming at other times, > > and growling at other parts. There is no way she could ever actually sing in > > a different way unless she wanted to, and as far as I can see, she has had > no > interest in changing her singing style so far. She's happy that she has her > own little language. I think she sounded a little nicer sometimes when > singing Baltimore. At least I could decipher the words then. I'm scared to > think what it could sound like now if she performed it. Someone from the > audience would probably think the song was called Bainbridge. LOL! > Bainbridge > is city in Maryland. But then there are other times when I love the fact > that > she has her own little language and that she can communicate this way to > people. But I wish that she'd raise her voice a little at other times so I > could actually decipher the lyrics in songs that I wouldn't know to begin > with. > OK, now i agree with you entirely here. it wouldn't be too much of a stretch for tori to actually help out fans and speak decently once in awhile. AJ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Jun 2001 13:12:15 -0500 From: Giovanni Mantilla Subject: advice on trading hey all, i'm in a complicated situation. thing is, i own this rare CD of mariah carey, a mexican promo of some sort, which, if eBay is anything to go by, equals to the collectability of our much sought-after "Precious Things" promo. so i decided i didn't need the mariah cd... but i also didn't really want to sell it on eBay. i don't want the money, i want tori stuff! so i went to a mariah carey fan page and posted an ad regarding a possible trade of the mariah cd for a tori rarity that was worth the hassle. well, a guy from the phillipines emailed me and said he was willing to give me a "precious things" promo cd and had a "little drummer boy" us promo cd he would also send to me in exchange of the mariah cd. that seemed like a good deal to me so i said yes. BUT he wants me to send him the CD (I even said I would fedex my stuff, which costs me $50 extra!!) first and then, upon receipt, will proceed to also fedex me the tori stuff. i thought the person who started the trade got to decide its terms, or well, at least has the right to get the item *-first-* and then send his/hers. at first i was totally renuent to do any kind of bussiness like that because i would only lose if he ends up getting the mariah cd and stealing it from me, without ever sending me the tori cds. and i just met him so how on earth could i trust him? he said he'd put them up for auction and would make a lot of money anyway (which i can also do with the mariah cd! just take a look : http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1434591126 ). i didn't pay much for the mariah cd (almost nothing) but shipping it would cost me a lot and given that the cd is so rare i would also lose the $300 i could make for it on eBay. what's your advice? should i go forth with the trade? should i ask him for proof of the real existence of the cds? should i ask him for email references of his "honesty"? WHAT EXACTLY should i do? this is the very first time i'm trading so i'm lost. big time. help me tori traders!!! i'm in despair. lol. he keeps saying i should trust people, but hey, that doesn't really mean a thing coming from him. damn. i hate this. please respond *as soon as you read this* to me personally and if you want, to the list as well. i need some advice soon... badly! love to all, Giovanni - ---------- "With you I'm not a little girl/with you I'm not a man/when all the hurt inside of me comes out, you understand/You see that I'm ferocious, you see that I am weak/you see that I am silly/and pretentious/and a freak/but I don't feel to strange for you/don't know exactly what you do/I think when love is pure you try to understand the reasons why/And I prefer this mistery/it cancels out my misery/and gives me hope that there could be... a person that loves me". - - Madonna "Please forgive me for my distance... the pain is evident in my existence" - - Fiona Apple ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #95 ************************************