From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V6 #91 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, May 29 2001 Volume 06 : Number 091 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: precious-things-digest V6 #89 [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: did venus recieve the same hype "strange girls" is ? [acopperbeechDry] Burning Real Audio Files onto CD [Mallettdove@aol.com] Hello? Am I in the RIGHT PLACE??? [Mysterilady2001@cs.com] Re: precious-things-digest V6 #89 [VioletLilith@aol.com] RE: touring ["Alana xx" ] (no subject) [Mallettdove@aol.com] Re: touring in the near future [Mallettdove@aol.com] Re: *feelings on tori and mallett's email* [Mallettdove@aol.com] Re: touring in the near future [Mallettdove@aol.com] Re: touring in the near future [Mallettdove@aol.com] Re: touring in the near future [Mallettdove@aol.com] Re: touring in the near future [VioletLilith@aol.com] *feelings on tori and mallett's email* [VioletLilith@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 00:52:02 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V6 #89 In a message dated 5/25/01 1:49:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: << when is this tribute going to be released? >> June 26th, now. The orignal date was June 12th. This is courtesy of Cleopatra Records, known for its goth bands...I love goth bands... :) Black Dove ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 10:08:03 -0400 From: acopperbeechDryad Subject: Re: did venus recieve the same hype "strange girls" is ? without fail ;) JNe9027355@aol.com wrote: > > Did all of you also engage in this guesswork and such for venus, or choirgirl > even? - -- ~ kelley acopperbeechDryad FINNatic #69 ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ so she woke up from where she was lying still said i gotta do something about where we're going ~U2 running to stand still ___________________ The Saferoom Project http://www.saferoom.org/ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 15:47:38 EDT From: Mallettdove@aol.com Subject: Burning Real Audio Files onto CD Is this possible first of all? If it's not, then how would you convert these files to mp3s or into some other format that can be burned onto CD. On the Little Amsterdam (a Dutch tori amos page) site, there is a long list of Real Audio files, after these are downloaded, where to they go? To what exact location on your computer? Please don't give me a long-winded, in-depth, and overly involved answer that I won't understand. I'd like to know where these files go, and how to find them when creating a CD to burn them onto. For instance, I downloaded Suede-from later with jools, and it played on Real Player, how can I get this burned onto CD and most importantly where do I find it first? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 26 May 2001 03:03:09 EDT From: Mysterilady2001@cs.com Subject: Hello? Am I in the RIGHT PLACE??? Hi ya EWF ~ I am responding to the message below. Please reread then I'll comment below. * In a message dated 5/25/01 10:41:08 PM Pacific Daylight Time, Mallettdove@aol.com writes: << Well, I doubt that it will be very different from what she's done in the past. She's not very eclectic and she doesn't change her person that often. Most likely, she's still the same piano-humping, drooling, screaming, non conformist she's always been. Oh, and I wonder how many times she's going to say 'fuck' on this tour? Probably every night. 'Fuck' is a great word when the moment calls for it, but she vastly overuses it sometimes. Maybe she should learn to shock her parents by not saying 'fuck'. That would be a change. >> Well, Lordy! This IS still a Tori fan-web-daily am I right? This IS still a PRO-Tori place yes? OK, so let me get this right - first she was called a druggie NOW we have someone negatively commenting on Tori for being TORI! Let me say this to anyone and no one in particular - If you want someone who dramatically changes tour by tour, video by video, magazine cover by magazine cover, GO SEE MADONNA! I hear she is touring this summer. She (Mrs. Richie) does it - the changes, the major theatrics, for thrillsville (& greenbacks, lest we forget the "motive".) I guess it's my age - call me The Ancient One - MysT! - but I don't need MAJOR FREAKING changes to catch the ever-present nuance of change totally visible to ME from one album to the next. To me its like a story unfolding, chapter by chapter, album by album. I loved what Neil said about her motherhood being a force on this album and as he referred to it as her first grown-up album. As a mother I totally understand that! Tori can stay as she has always been, I will ALWAYS be there in the audience - awaiting the nuance, the moment she chooses to take the breath, the look she gives that says so much. Yes, it is I - the chick who gets off on the nuance. As for the word fuck - fuck doesn't bother me. Its a word. Tori has said it less on tour in her entire career than Fred Durst says it in one of my Sons Limp Bizkit songs. LOL! Maybe this will be the year of Shit! Or Bitch! Or Asshole! Maybe this will be the year of no profanity. The baby will be at least a year old when she tours, most us good Mommy's try not to talk trash *in front* of our bambinos. If Tori ever did stop sitting legs open, if she did stop the breathy lines mixed with the telltale looks that speak volumes. If she ever did START behaving in any other way other than our Tori I would swear to God that the aliens have come to town and replaced her with a second-rate quasi Walmart variety CLONE! And then I'd have to turn Scully & kick some alien butt! Frankly I have a wedding to plan & I have no time for that crap, so I'll take my usual Tori. It's yummy :-) Our of the woodwork Toodles ~ MysT *** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:22:36 EDT From: VioletLilith@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V6 #89 In a message dated 05/26/2001 12:21:30 AM Eastern Daylight Time, megasus@subdimension.com writes: << I don't remember where it was quoted, but Tori has said she doesn't do anything -before- shows... that she'll sometimes have a drink after a show to celebrate the success/ending of another night. So from what I understand, when we see her up there she's sober. :P And I think she's walked away from most of that kind of stuff since the baby was born... >> not being drunk during a show does not mean that she was drinking heavily on tour. that is what i was talking about. i have seen her three times and she never seemed intoxicated during it. but, come on, the women is a drinker! or, was, at least. and, the whole comment about her walking away from that stuff since the baby is exactly why i said she might be sober this tour! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 14:53:17 +0800 From: "Alana xx" Subject: RE: touring I couldn't agree more! Just as a thought....maybe when she says that she's touring in a way that she hasn't toured for a long time she's not meaning exactly how she's playing the music i.e. solo, with band, etc but she's meaning WHERE she's touring. For the last two(three if you count the 5 1/2 Weeks tour) she has really only done North America and Europe....soooooo what I was think was that she might mean that she's going be doing more Asian countries, like in the Earthquakes and Pink tour, and yes Australia again. Perhaps I'm just wishful thinking here but I'm trying to think positively here! I haven't seen here play since 1994 so I'm kind of very desperate.... OK, now I'll go back to lurk mode..... Alana >From: "Hill, Renee" >To: precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: RE: touring >Date: Tue, 22 May 2001 16:56:54 -0700 > > >y'know...i'm not really caring which way she tours. as long as she bloody >comes to australia. :) > >-----Original Message----- >From: Tom xxxxx [mailto:getula@hotmail.com] >Sent: Tuesday, 22 May 2001 23:24 >To: frangipani420@yahoo.com >Cc: precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: Re: touring > > > >That would be very cool. Blood Roses was interesting on the 5.5 Weeks tour >but not as amazing as it is with the harpsichord. > >Tom > > > >From: freakgirl > >To: Tom xxxxx > >Subject: Re: touring > >Date: Mon, 21 May 2001 23:08:39 -0700 (PDT) > > > >Has anyone thought about her bringing the harpsichord > >this time around? That's the only thing I can think > >of that she hasn't done lately. I for one would be > >excited. :) > > > >Freakgirl > >Yahoo! Auctions - buy the things you want at great prices > >http://auctions.yahoo.com/ > >_________________________________________________________________ >Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:44:34 EDT From: Mallettdove@aol.com Subject: (no subject) In a message dated 5/28/01 3:34:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Violet Lilith writes: << i think it is refreshing to have someone in the "biz" these days who knows who they are >> I do too. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:34:48 EDT From: Mallettdove@aol.com Subject: Re: touring in the near future In a message dated 5/28/01 3:34:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Violet Lilith writes: << i think it is refreshing to have someone in the "biz" these days who knows who they are >> I do too. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:40:13 EDT From: Mallettdove@aol.com Subject: Re: *feelings on tori and mallett's email* In a message dated 5/28/01 7:19:26 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Violet Lilith writes: << when she starts playing a song in a new way i don't even recognize it until familiar lyrics appear! >> Yeah, Blood Roses is absolutely amazing when recreated live with the band. I love it! It was the first song, (9/24/99), that I ever burnt onto a CD and it was great. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:32:45 EDT From: Mallettdove@aol.com Subject: Re: touring in the near future In a message dated 5/28/01 3:34:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Violet Lilith writes: << As far as her overusing the word "fuck." Well, I have seen three different shows on three different tours (DEW DROP INN, PLUGGED, 51/2 WEEKS). the only time I heard the "F" word was PLUGGED, in which case she said it about 4 times, total. So, don't judge just by your particular concert...... >> I'm not judging by a particular concert. As far back as I can remember, she has overused this word many times. I can't believe I'm having an argument about the word 'fuck.' LOL! ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:30:02 EDT From: Mallettdove@aol.com Subject: Re: touring in the near future In a message dated 5/28/01 3:34:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Violet Lilith writes: << why should she work with musicians who try to get her to do what she doesn't want to do? it's her fucking music. and, why should she change her person over and over >> I didn't say that she should work with musicians who try to get her to do what she doesn't want to do. I said that she should broaden her horizon a little and perhaps alter her sound a bit-whatever she does, it doesn't have to last forever, maybe just one song. It gets very repetitive after a while when you work with the same musicians and keep recreating the same sounds. By the way, I'm looking forward to the new album, especially since I heard that one of the songs sounds like it could be a lost track from the Little Earthquakes era. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 18:23:24 EDT From: Mallettdove@aol.com Subject: Re: touring in the near future In a message dated 5/28/01 3:34:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Violet Lilith writes: << and, why be on this list if you feel such negative things towards her? >> I was not being negative, just a little constructive criticism. I'm sorry if you took it the wrong way. We do not have to kiss her ass twenty-four/seven on this list. There is always room for some improvement on her part. She's not perfect. Calm down and please don't use the 'f' word with me. I was not insulting you. And I don't need 'you' to speak for '99%' of the people on this list, just speak for yourself. If you really think that you do speak for 99% of the people on this list, than I am the one percent that you don't speak for, so please don't attack me for stating my opinion. Again, I'm sorry if it sounded that bad that it caused you to get so emotional. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 15:34:19 EDT From: VioletLilith@aol.com Subject: Re: touring in the near future In a message dated 05/26/2001 12:11:03 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Mallettdove@aol.com writes: << Mallettdove >> you know what you wrote.... and, why be on this list if you feel such negative things towards her? i can guarantee 99% of us don't want to hear it....... besides, in my opinion, her music does vary quite a bit. not just from album to album, but from song to song. and why should she work with musicians who try to get her to do what she doesn't want to do? it's her fucking music. and, why should she change her person over and over. i think it is refreshing to have someone in the "biz" these days who knows who they are and don't have to constantly change (like madonna, or marilyn manson, or some other retard) and, as far as her over-using the word "fuck". well, i have seen three different shows on three different tours (DEW DROP INN, PLUGGED, 51/2 WEEKS). the only time i heard the "F" word was PLUGGED, in which case she said it about 4 times, total. so, don't judge just by your particular concert...... ~~jen~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 28 May 2001 19:19:26 EDT From: VioletLilith@aol.com Subject: *feelings on tori and mallett's email* In a message dated 05/28/2001 6:23:24 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Mallettdove writes: << And I don't need 'you' to speak for '99%' of the people on this list >> i was just trying to make a point that most people who join this list probably do not want to hear (or read) negative things about her. that's all. my opinion. i could be wrong (and if so, i apologize for speaking for others). but, i was just speaking for myself, and what i would imagine the case to be...... <> i don't kiss her ass. but, i do respect her for who she is, and the music she makes. and i get really irritated when i read or hear things about her that aren't so nice. and i don't think what you had to write was so nice..... however..... <> i wouldn't say i am getting emotional. not at all. i was just a little thrown why someone on the list would be such a harsh critic. and, just wanted to make my thoughts known about what you have said, and how i dissagree. not arguing. maybe getting a little defensive....okay....but not emotional. i am not that concerned, really..... <> call me crazy, but, in my opinion she is always broadening her horizans. there are huge differences in all of her albums. LITTLE EARTHQUAKES being the obvious kate bush wanna-bee......to VENUS being electronically-based, and much more zeppelin influenced! she can recreate her songs like madonna recreates her style. sometimes when she starts playing a song in a new way i don't even recognize it until familiar lyrics appear! so, maybe some of her overall style is the same. who cares? that's what makes her music hers! <> well, of course it would if her songs all sound the same anyway. then all the songs from PINK until now would sound like lost tracks from that era..... <> you're not. i was just making a point that she doesn't go off on that word at every show. i have proof because i have been to two shows where she didn't say it at all. <> if so, i understand this even less!!!!!!! <> <> to me, that is saying she should do music she doesn't like, or want! if she did, i would not respect her much anymore....and probably be writting an email much like yours...because what she stands for most to me is the purrfect example of non-self-compromise! believe me, i am not trying to say you don't have a right to your opinion. it's nice to know people still have them. but, i just wanted to express mine, as well! ~~jen~ ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V6 #91 ************************************