From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #354 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, November 30 1999 Volume 04 : Number 354 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Python King? ["Carrie B." ] Tori on UK Teletext - can someone please transcribe? ["Mike Gray" ] From p.451 of Teletext (Channel 4) UK Today. ["Mike Gray" ] Ears with Feet are heard ["Giovanni Mantilla" ] tvab [Prntr66051@aol.com] Re: precious-things-digest V4 #353 [PokaDot420@aol.com] a little help please? :) [SYNCJ05@aol.com] Synapsis of the 80s mess [Nadyne Mielke ] YKTR? [SYNCJ05@aol.com] Re: Synapsis of the 80s mess ["torture garden" Subject: Python King? I hate doing this, but has anyone had problems trading with this person? I sent her a video several weeks ago, and have not received her share of the trade. If anyone knows how to get a hold of her, please let me know. She isn't answering her e-mails. Thanks ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:34:03 -0000 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: Tori on UK Teletext - can someone please transcribe? Hi Guys, I'm reliably informed that there is mention of Tori on page 451 of Channel 4 Teletext today (Monday). Would someone like to transcribe it for those of us who don't have it? Cheers Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 28 Nov 1999 23:17:51 -0800 (PST) From: "K. Fischer" Subject: Y100 vol.3 CD Is there anyone who would be willing to get a copy of the new Y100 Sonic Sessions cd for me. It has Tori doing 'Concertina' on it, and I would love to have it. I will take care of all costs, including packaging and postage. Please email me if you will do this. Thanks, Alex fischera@u.washington.edu ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:31:47 -0000 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: From p.451 of Teletext (Channel 4) UK Today. - -- In a Canadian press agency interview Meat Loaf attacked Tori Amos for saying her followers owed her something. "It's the most insane thing I've ever heard. I wanted to slap her," Meat Loaf was reported as saying. He also called her fans "neurotic freaks". Tori Amos fans have reacted furiously over the Internet with hate-mail aimed at Meat Loaf. - -- Interesting - I'd heard nothing of this, anyone heard anything about this? Mike ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:09:32 -0800 (PST) From: rev erto Subject: Daily Show Hi. I found the following on the Late Show News e-Newsletter (http://www.tvbarn.com): Darren Glass responds to a previous letter-writer who wonders why musical guests aren't asked over to the host's interview panel more often on talk shows. "I'm a big music junkie and would love to see many of my favorite artists interviewed," says Darren. "However, anyone wanting to know why it isn't the standard practice just needed to be watching 'The Daily Show' last night as Jon Stewart tried to interview Tori Amos. It was one of the most awkward uncomfortable moments I have ever watched on a talk show, as she really just didn't know how to be a decent interviewee at all." __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:09:14 PST From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: Ears with Feet are heard Hey everyone, This is just AMAZING. I was just watching this program called "Le Journal de la Musique" on the french channel MCM (the one that also made the "Documentaire" thing with Tori) and was very shocked to see that they made the Meatloaf VS. Tori one of their news items. They said that Meatloaf is probably not very happy, because he made a comment saying that he wanted to slap "la chanteuse americainne" Tori Amos regarding a comment she "made" where she said she expected more from her audience. Meatloaf was then flooded with e-mails from the fans of the singer who expressed their anger and discontentment regarding his erroneous comments. At the end they said that "the singer (Tori) has not made any comments yet. WE UNDERSTAND HER". They played clips of Meatloaf's "I'd Lie For You (And That's The Truth)" and of Tori's "Spark" in the background. It was just so damn cool to see how we can be heard when we unite. It was even more amazing to see how the international community also pays attentions to these matters. MORE POWER TO THE EwF. Hugs, Giovanni http://come.to/corncity PS. They probably said more specific things but I don't understand french very well yet... this is what I could make out! :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 18:53:06 EST From: Prntr66051@aol.com Subject: tvab Just my thoughts here, not asking to get flamed so just keep that in mind. I was just listening to TVAB and also thinking about FTCGH and it seems to me Tori's style has really changed. Aside from about two songs on choirgirl, I dont really like much else. Has she really changed, or have I just not had enough time to let the new songs take on meaning for me as the older ones have? I just think about BFP and all the BIG sound and orchestration and the similar style of the first two and it just seems to me the latest arent up to par. Any thoughts? Andy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 17:39:49 EST From: PokaDot420@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V4 #353 this is by far my favorite tori list because of the maturity of the conversation here, i know that this trading stuff is a touchy issue, but if we want to hear about boots and traders can't we just refer to tori-boot and continue to have interesting conversation here. so i'm asking please can the arguments be further handled in private emails. i know i'm basically a silent member but i do enjoy reading the thoughts of my fellow ears with feet. i really hope no one is offended that is not my intension :) chatter, chatter, chatter, chatter, chatter, SaRa* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 16:30:18 EST From: SYNCJ05@aol.com Subject: a little help please? :) hey ewf! since i know you all are smart, bright people i know you can help me out a little bit with my english project :) right? lol anyway, here's what i'm thinking about... Ok, we just got assigned a project on Transcendentalists and Anti-transcendentalists (sp?)... such as Thoreau and Emerson. One part of the project has to be done in a creative way to show i know the meaning of that big long "T" word. Anyway, do you guys think tori would qualify as a Transcendentalist? I was hoping i could tie her in to the creative part of my report. I also need for part of my report to analyze a song that expresses a trans. or anti-trans. idea. Any tori songs come to mind??? I thought tori might work because i guess those people look for inspiration and inner reality in nature. I remember reading on chat transcript *i think* tori saying something about how to get inspiration she would go into nature.. or on a walk or something.. and let that inspire her for her music. YOUR HELP WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECiATED :) :) THANKS A BUNDLE, Megan SYNCJ05@aol.com *So sure we were on something your feet are just on the ground, girl* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:19:02 -0500 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Synapsis of the 80s mess These are, to the -best- of my knowledge, the total list of fuck-ups on Atlantic's part on the 80s single: 1) UK: Both singles have "Famous Blue Raincoat" and "Twinkle", regardless of what the packaging states. 2) UK: Both singles have "Baker Baker" and "Winter", again regardless of what the packaging states. 3) Australia: The 80s single (only one released down there) actually has the most recent release from the band Everything but the Girl. There have been some questions as to whether or not (2) actually exists -- as someone put it to me, there appeared to be a number of rumormongers out there but no substantiation of it. I ordered the 80s singles from CDNow, and got one of them today. The liner and the printing on the disc say that it's the one with FBR, but sure enough, I'm listening to BB right now. I find it amusing that the note inside from CDNow says that the other 80s single is backordered. I wonder if CDNow returned the other one to Atlantic, thinking that only it was incorrect? There is -no- difference between (1) and (2). The CDs are identical, the liner notes are identical, the catalogue numbers are identical. There is absolutely no way to know which 80s single you got without opening it up and listening to it. Likewise, there is nothing external to (3) to tell you whether or not you're getting the correct one. It does not appear that Atlantic has re-released this disc yet, and no-one seems to know when they will (or even if!). These singles will likely not increase in value. (1) is all over the place. (2) is harder to come by, although if you can get it from CDNow it should be in wider circulation in the very near future. The songs on (2) are available on the US Oceans single anyway, so there's no reason for most folks to be terribly interested in it. (3) is, IMHO, the only one with any shot at increasing in value; and even then, I can't see it going up in value that much. Regardless, the only people to whom all of this will be of any interest are the true completist freaks *cough*me*cough* who must have everything with Tori's name on it. Given how widespread these issues are, I'm sure all of us freaks have multiple copies of each fuck-up by now. ;) /nad ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 21:44:49 EST From: SYNCJ05@aol.com Subject: YKTR? Ok... i've posted alot for my lil ol self in the past couple hours but sorry, i just have one more question! Along w/ my little thought on Transcendentalists before: I was looking up that word in the dictionary and one of the definitions was- "any doctrine based on this belief, as the philosophy of Kant" and then i looked up "Kant" and it said "immanuel- german philosopher". so my question... Does this have anything to do w/ Y Kant Tori Read?? LoL probably not, but i thought it was worth asking! sorry! :) Anyway, its a good bit of information... haha, bye guys! Megan SYNCJ05@aol.com *So sure we were on something your feet are just on the ground, girl* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 12:17:30 +1100 From: "torture garden" Subject: Re: Synapsis of the 80s mess On the Australian release, please note... /nad wrote: "3) Australia: The 80s single (only one released down there) actually has the most recent release from the band Everything but the Girl. " Only a limited number of cd singles like this were released in Australia, and it seems to be regionally specific - it appears that these are not a random selection littered across the country, but were released, it seems, in 'faulty' batches. However, the single that was released with the correct music on the disc was still choc full of typos - tori is credit for writing famous blue raincoat (listed on the cd as 'blue raincoat') while leonard cohen is credited with 'Twinkle'... "Likewise, there is nothing external to (3) to tell you whether or not you're getting the correct one". chances are, you are getting GOT80's with twinkle and famous blue raincoat. The EBTG was *not* an error on all of these singles, only a few. "(3) is, IMHO, the only one with any shot at increasing in value; and even then, I can't see it going up in value that much." I can, considering it was only a few batches that were released with this error. Most Australian GOT80's singles - ignoring the typos - are as the packet states. If you have fluked one of these EBTG ones, hang onto it, as i suspect as it comes out how relatively rare they are in relation to the 'normal' Australian GOT80's single, the value may indeed increase (assuming that the people who have gotten one of these actually realize what it is!). torture garden Get your Free E-mail at http://thevampskiss.zzn.com ___________________________________________________________ Get your own Web-based E-mail Service at http://www.zzn.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #354 *************************************