From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #324 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, October 28 1999 Volume 04 : Number 324 Today's Subjects: ----------------- 1000 clowns ["Debbie" ] Corton-Charlemagne [Beth Winegarner ] delicate subject ["Wake UpNeo" ] Re: Corteaun Charlemaine [Gud4AStorm@aol.com] wine ["Wake UpNeo" ] Re: platform shoes (playboy mommy) ["K. Fischer" ] Re: Corteaun Charlemaine no Corton Charlemagne [XXXPandora@aol.com] Prada ["Wake UpNeo" ] Re: Corton Charlemagne ["C. F." ] Re: posters [Jennifer Lynn Roth ] (no subject) [Beulahsd@aol.com] Re: posters [Freedom110@aol.com] LOL..... a funny tangent... [copperdryad ] Re: Corteaun Charlemaine ["*ShaDy FeLiNE*" ] "Boise" concert on October 9, 1999 [Richard Handal ] Re: Silent all these Years about abortion? [Spiritcc33@aol.com] Re: Mary ["castles burning" ] Talula ( was Re: delicate subject ) [Megasus ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:43:40 -0500 From: "Debbie" Subject: 1000 clowns I'm not sure if this was covered or not, but 1000 Clowns is a band. D ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:06:27 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner Subject: Corton-Charlemagne Kat, it's spelled Corton-Charlemagne, and it is indeed expensive. I found a bottle at a local Beverages & More store, and it was somewhere between $75 and $90 a bottle. Beth - -- "I couldn't take it anymore so I went back to the sea 'Cause that's where fishes go when the fishes get the sense to flee." (Live) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:00:53 GMT From: "Wake UpNeo" Subject: delicate subject Hi Gabi; You asked: "  >>THE abortion? what abortion?  i'm sorry if i missed something, but i've never heard of tori having an abortion. could anyone please clue me in? thanks!! gabi* " Tori said in one interview, that she had never been pregnant before her miscarriage. HTH. K. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 01:00:10 EDT From: Gud4AStorm@aol.com Subject: Re: Corteaun Charlemaine In a message dated 10/26/99 11:47:40 PM Central Daylight Time, Fairywinged@aol.com writes: << Corteaun Charlemaine (the wine tori talks about when she and her friends named TVaB) so is this the way to really spell the name of that wine tori likes if it is not correct and you know how to really spell it let me know i would like to look into finding me a bottle well unless its like so outrageously expensive but it would still be nice to know in case i am ever rich. thanks kat >> Well, I found it online spelled this way: Corton-Charlemagne. Price was listed at $50+. Michelle Tori Lyrics Information at The Biggest Thickest Ever Sky: http://members.aol.com/gud4astorm/index.html "Go out in the woods, go out. If you don't go out in the woods, nothing will ever happen and your life will never begin. Go out in the woods, go out." ~ Clarissa Estes "Rolling and unrolling, coiling, emerging, running free - running through the underworld into your room." ~ Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:09:24 GMT From: "Wake UpNeo" Subject: wine You asked: "Corteaun Charlemaine (the wine tori talks about when she and her friends named TVaB) so is this the way to really spell the name of that wine tori likes if it is not correct and you know how to really spell it let me know" I believe the correct spelling would be Corton Charlemagne. Would be neat if someone would compile a list of all the wines Tori's mentioned by name ;o) Anyone up for the task ? K. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 23:30:05 -0700 (PDT) From: "K. Fischer" Subject: Re: platform shoes (playboy mommy) Prada is a designer label. The fashion line is done by a woman called Muccia Prada, who I believe is Italian. Anyway, her designs are extremely popular among celebrities, so none of her stuff is cheap! I think Tori probably treasures her Prada shoes because they are so well made and are of high quality, which is why they aren't just 'shoes' they're 'Prada shoes'. I also wanted to note that Tori told this same story for Playboy Mommy when she played it at the End Sessions performance in Seattle last year. Alex On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 Diabolusinne@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/26/99 4:36:15 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > RainnFaeri@stny.rr.com writes: > > > So I come down in my Prada shoes and > > I trip all the way down the steps and I fall all the way down to the floor > > and so, uh, when I looked at Beenie and said (sings) 'in my platforms i hit > > the floor'..." > > ahh, here's something i've been meaning to ask: > what exactly is prada? > i vaguely remember tori explaining it once, > but that doesnt mean anything because im questioning it now.. > heh, so anyway, answers? thanks. > > -desyre > http://www.thecounterculture.com/~desyre/ > aim: diabolusinne icq: 33697850 > "..and is your place in heaven worth > giving up these kisses these kisses" -tori. > ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 02:27:11 EDT From: Lisa071573@aol.com Subject: lots of stuff... ok ... usually just a lurker...but... (oh and I'm digest too so don't hurl nasty fires of hell at me if these things have already been dealt with...) in regard to the RAINN film invite....I got one too and I live in California (not in the general vicinity of NYC). I'm a member of RAINN ($45 per year, for a good Tori cause and you get a monthly RAINN newsletter) so I just kinda assumed that's where it came from...but I also subscribe to RDT so I don't know...wish I had $250!! yuk..sucks to be poor.. on that note...on my list of things to do if I win the lottery is to buy a nice big-ass Winnebago and follow Tori...I wish I could follow her - I'm just a poor working girl though...but I also thought that the comments about so-and-so being a more well-known fan meant just that - well-known, i.e. we've heard of them. Please don't bash Mikewhy :( he's the sweetest guy I've ever met in my life... for SATY, my interpretation of the song is very close to that of Doug's ("Bailey, Doug S" ) I concur wholeheartedly :) I think Tori songs are very personal and can be interpreted in many different ways...also, for Playboy Mommy, Danica has a nice mp3 on her site where Tori tells the Prada (just a designer, I think - out of my price range) platform story and then does Playboy Mommy solo on piano...go to www.toriphile.com and go to the Plugged page and scroll down til you find Playboy Mommy - I think there's more than one PM there, but the one with this story is the solo piano one... live tracks on Venus - Richard :) hah! that's so funny that they don't know where the live songs came from...I had never thought of it that way before..interesting...the only ones I know too are cooling and zebra. Charlie Rose - I have it on video if anyone wants a copy..just e-mail me privately. I know you can get legal copy for $29.95 (!) and I'm all for capitalism and copyrightedness and all that shit but yikes!! $29.95???? back to lurking in the shadows...Lisa :) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 15:35:59 +0100 From: "Danny.Weddup" Subject: tori on uk tv Hi, For all the uk fans, Tori is on: This Morning at 10:30am tomorrow (Thursday) Later With Jools Holland at 11:45pm on Saturday If you see any other uk tv appearances, please let me know! Danny ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 13:52:48 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: Corteaun Charlemaine no Corton Charlemagne In a message dated 10/27/1999 12:47:37 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Fairywinged@aol.com writes: << Corteaun Charlemaine (the wine tori talks about when she and her friends named TVaB) so is this the way to really spell the name of that wine tori likes >> It is spelled Corton Charlemange ... here are a few websites to check out where they talk about it and sell it :) http://www.drouhin.com/produits/descrip/corcharl.html http://www.yakshaya.com/055-1.htm http://www.ad-vin.com/ravaut/indexgb.html http://winecuisine.com/Wines/bgbgrafx/burgw2.html <- this shows the labels :) http://www.burgcellar.com/special.html <-- you can buy it here ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:13:12 GMT From: "Wake UpNeo" Subject: Prada Eek, I feel like a factoid machine this digest ;o) desyre asked: "ahh, here's something i've been meaning to ask: what exactly is prada?" Prada is a line of couture (high fashion) clothing and also shoes. Tori has also mentioned Prada underwear in a story (at the KROQ Breakfast Show I think ?) about leaving a pair behind in a hotel room by accident, that she'd spent a big part of a royalty check on; and that she was sure they would wind up on Ebay. LOL Posh Spice is always talking about Gucci, Pucci, and Prada as her favorite lines of clothing btw. ;o) (Threw that in just for fun). It's expensive stuff...but Tori used to mention shopping at The Gap ! K. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 10:22:17 EDT From: "C. F." Subject: Re: Corton Charlemagne Well, the second word is more than likely spelled Charlemagne since it's a French word... I'm not 100% sure this is the one, but by looking at the price tag, could be....check out this page....it tells all the wine's characteristics, etc.... http://www.winesociety.com/search/wines/2/2047.html Hope that helps! Cheerios! Carly From: Fairywinged@aol.com Reply-To: Fairywinged@aol.com To: precious-things@smoe.org Subject: Corteaun Charlemaine Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:50:39 EDT Corteaun Charlemaine (the wine tori talks about when she and her friends named TVaB) so is this the way to really spell the name of that wine tori likes if it is not correct and you know how to really spell it let me know i would like to look into finding me a bottle well unless its like so outrageously expensive but it would still be nice to know in case i am ever rich. thanks kat ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:14:44 -0500 (EST) From: Jennifer Lynn Roth Subject: Re: posters They have it at allposters.com Jenn On Tue, 26 Oct 1999 Freedom110@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 10/26/99 4:35:21 PM Pacific Daylight Time, > danny.weddup@talk21.com writes: > > > Hi, > > To Gus and all others who were asking for a poster of Tori + the pig, > I'm > > pretty sure that Push Posters have one, but you'll have to check cuz I'm > not > > certain . They claim to have the largest selection of rock and pop posters > > in the world....... > > Their address is: www.pushposters.com > > Hope you find it, > > Danny > > 8o) > > I went to the sight, and found it, but when I clicked the picture to see it > further, it was just from the shoulders up. Is this because it's too risky to > show the pig, or because it's cut out period. > > I'm confused. > > -Gus > *************************************************************************** " I found the secret to life. I'm okay when everything's not okay." -Tori Amos *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 16:51:34 EDT From: Beulahsd@aol.com Subject: (no subject) hi, can someone give me the url for the tori boot site, list whatever, i need a copy from the 9-12 show! thanks! peace and tori love, sarah ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 18:34:20 EDT From: Freedom110@aol.com Subject: Re: posters In a message dated 10/27/99 10:15:07 AM Pacific Daylight Time, jroth@indiana.edu writes: > They have it at allposters.com > > Jenn I went there, but they have the one where she's holding the pig, not feeding it, plus it's sold out. Oh well, I found it on eBay anyway, I just hate that it's not in color! grrrrr! ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:40:39 -0700 From: copperdryad Subject: LOL..... a funny tangent... passing this on from a friend... ;) ~~kelley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Sjöberg's Law of Public Cliquishness Any unmoderated public discussion space, no matter what the ostensible subject, will eventually attract a clique of contributors who will use the space primarily to discuss their personal lives and trade in-jokes. In addition, it will attract at least one regular contributor who will make it his or her goal to harass and harangue the other regulars. the rest of sjoberg's laws can be found at: http://www.brunching.com/features/feature-mylaws.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 12:46:39 PDT From: "*ShaDy FeLiNE*" Subject: Re: Corteaun Charlemaine If the wine is named after Charlemaigne of the Frankish tribe that settled in France, then Charlemaigne is spelled that way.. I would assume it is since that's the only Charlemaigne I've ever heard about.. Hope that this helps you! Amy (Aim) >From: Fairywinged@aol.com >Reply-To: Fairywinged@aol.com >To: precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: Corteaun Charlemaine >Date: Tue, 26 Oct 1999 22:50:39 EDT > > >Corteaun Charlemaine (the wine tori talks about when she and her friends >named TVaB) >so is this the way to really spell the name of that wine tori likes >if it is not correct and you know how to really spell it let me know i >would >like to look into finding me a bottle well unless its like so outrageously >expensive but it would still be nice to know in case i am ever rich. >thanks >kat ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 17:02:16 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: "Boise" concert on October 9, 1999 Hello: This show near Boise in Nampa, Idaho, struck me differently than any of the other shows on this tour. As I think back to previous tours I can recall some shows with an overall similarity in feel, but they weren't as expressive of the music. It's funny, because one of the main reasons I like to see the shows is to experience the level and clarity of Tori's mindset on any given evening. Typically, the playing is marked all night long with who she is as a person that night, and for some reason I find that fascinating. This show was as little like that as any other that I can recall to have still been a great show. Instead of Tori's personality, the *songs* were asserting themselves all night long. I found it to have been oddly moving to experience the degree to which the material was coming out through her unaffected--there was a purity to it which touched me. In as much as she's said she doesn't compose the songs as much as she does channel them from parts unknown, this also was how the music was coming on this particular night. The solo songs especially came gushing out of her. Each portion of Phantom, Marianne and Jupiter took on its own little life--the separate sections being expressed with remarkable individual clarity. Actually, it was almost eerie. When I spoke with a friend later after he'd come out from backstage that night and he told me that on his way into Tori's dressing room he'd been warned that she was tired (my friend also said he could readily tell this when he had been speaking with her), the reasons the concert had been as it was presented themselves. She had little of herself to impress upon the music that night, but instead, had allowed it to reach out through her. It wasn't as if she was too tired to play, she was just too tired to put the usual amount of her personal signature on everything. I don't know if I'd want to see great numbers of shows were they *all* like this one in that regard, but it was oddly refreshing, and made a great impact on me. Another thing I wanted to mention about this show is that Caton was absolutely tearing it up all night long. Especially during Cruel, when he was wailing his balls off, and the effect of Cruel overall this night was one of insane abandon. On a humorous note, as I was stamped for potential re-entry with a rubber stamp on the back of my hand as I came into the venue that night, I saw that the design of the stamp was of a horse. I remembered that this was a rodeo area, and I flashed on the possibility of them performing Horses that night. I know that someone had been requesting Horses at the shows for a little while, but it was at this rodeo arena where she chose to play it. I love how her mind works. :-) Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 27 Oct 1999 23:25:27 EDT From: Spiritcc33@aol.com Subject: Re: Silent all these Years about abortion? I meant miscarriage sorry :/ Bliss! *^*Cornflakegirl*^* ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 28 Oct 1999 02:03:43 GMT From: "castles burning" Subject: Re: Mary "like jimi said, mary don't be afraid cause even the wind, even the wind cries your name." you might be onto something.... :) And I heard "And the wind it cries Mary" (and like "the wind whispers >mary"). So I hooked it up with Tori's song and it really is familiar. I >just >thought that was really cool! Any thoughts? ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Feb 1988 19:15:17 -0800 From: Megasus Subject: Talula ( was Re: delicate subject ) Wake UpNeo wrote: > > Hi Gabi; > > You asked: > > " >>THE abortion? > what abortion? i'm sorry if i missed something, but i've never heard of > tori having an abortion. could anyone please clue me in? thanks!! > > gabi* " > > Tori said in one interview, that she had never been pregnant before her > miscarriage. I also heard that Talula was about abortion... Now, we all know that not everything Tori writes is about herself.. she said as much on Charlie Rose (not in so many words, but..) So if it is about abortion, do we know if it's about anybody specific? Just curious.. I love the song.. and when I heard it was about that, it made me wonder about that.. "Must be worth losing".. any thoughts? - -Meg, who's on a different computer temporarily ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #324 *************************************