From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #313 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, October 18 1999 Volume 04 : Number 313 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: the mysterious tribute album ["Terry Ferrell" ] Re: the CORRECT URL for Tori transcriptions ["Aimee" ] Re: precious-things-digest V4 #312 [Dracovixen@aol.com] Re: the mysterious tribute album [puppycakes ] Re: siren mp3 [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: Hard Rock Live "VIP" ticket fiasco [Mac456789@aol.com] Re: precious-things-digest V4 #312 [Nadyne Mielke ] tori on E! ["the fiercest calm i've been in" ] Re: Hard Rock Live "VIP" ticket fiasco [FireflyLG@aol.com] hard rock live question [AngelChk21@aol.com] when is it to air?? ["Terry Ferrell" ] Pics of Tori? ... [Spiritcc33@aol.com] Re: Tori On Y100's Sonic Sessions --- A review ["d i v i d i n g c a n a] fumbling-towards-ecstasy list moving to smoe.org! [Michael Curry ] Re: tori tv alert: e! daily news [woj sven-woj ] tori tv alert: charlie rose [woj sven-woj ] Re: Pics of Tori? ... [angel dust ] Re: hard rock live question [puppycakes ] Re: Tori On Y100's Sonic Sessions --- A review [angel dust ] Charlie Rose? [Spiritcc33@aol.com] Woodstock CD And Video Will Benefit RAINN ["mr zebra" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:10:17 EDT From: "Terry Ferrell" Subject: Re: the mysterious tribute album Hey Emily and everyone else, I saw this cd in Sam Goodies the other day and I almost bought it thinking that it was just a complilation of Tori songs, but then I decided that it might not be, so i just left it there in the store. But if anyone does know anything about this album, please do share, b/c i am becomming a seriously curious little boy. Thanks Terry. >From: "Emily W. Rigdon" >Reply-To: "Emily W. Rigdon" >To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org >Subject: the mysterious tribute album >Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 13:21:54 -0400 > > >Ahh! Here's the link to the Tori tribute album, and it's only 7 bucks or >so! I don't konw how good it could be. Who are the artists? Has anyone >bought this yet that could share about it? I've read some stuff about it, >but haven't heard anything about it from a toriphile who's heard it. >http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00001OHAW/o/qid=940092212/sr=2-3/002 >-5900135-4327440 > >...weird! >luv >emily > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 22:16:33 -0400 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: 1,000 oceans maxi-5 single At 08:13 AM 10/15/99 -0400, Pelefaerie wrote: > >Yesterday I walked into my local cd store, hoping to see a copy of the >long-awaited (for me at least, i haven't had time to get it yet) 1,000 >Oceans maixi single...and it wasn't there. The idiots that supposedly work >at the store didn't know a thing, as usual. Why did this single disappear? >THe only thing they had was the original Sep 7. single....what happened. They are available, but they can be hard to find. When I stopped by Tower Records this evening, they had several copies of the 3-track single available for $4.99. If you can't find it in your area, I'd recommend ordering it online from Amazon or CDNow. In fact, here are some good coupons for CDNow: http://www.webmogul.com/musicwide/cddeals.html http://www.50megs.com/momo/cdnow.html HTH. :) /nad ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:11:50 -0500 From: "Aimee" Subject: Re: the CORRECT URL for Tori transcriptions >Sorry, I typed the URL wrong yesterday. Please be >aware that you need a CAPITAL "P" in Piano. > >www.angelfire.com/ca2/kingtaco/Piano.html > >Mike I"ve come across several arrangements to Cornflake Girl on the internet, and I can't seem to play any of them . . . they're pretty difficult. The rhythm on this one is really throwing me off. It's written in cut time, but in the third bar, I see an eighth rest, six eighth notes and 5 sixteenths. How does this add up to four? Then, in the eighth bar, there's an eighth note, a quarter note, two eighths, a quarter, then a quarter rest. I have NO idea how to play this. I"m a little stupid right now, considering I partied 'til four last night and woke up around ten not feeling so hot, so bear with me if I'm missing something terribly obvious here . . . but could someone please help me out? I'd really appreciate it. Horns, aimee ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:48:56 -0400 From: "Erika and Alan Lewis" Subject: Re: Hard Rock Live "VIP" ticket fiasco Hello Everyone... Something here tells me I should just let this go, but since the discussion has been started, I have a few questions and remarks to make. This a little long.... from Richard... *snip* > You are correct when you speak about this overall, though. Clearly, almost > all of the time, nearly all the folks who go to a ton of shows find > tickets on their own without any help. I'll go further and add that Joel > gave the regulars nice tickets for the Boise show I was at the Boise show. My husband and I had done the RAINN thing and we were in first row. If certain people had fairly decent seats, how come said same people still felt the need to push, shove and weasel their way from what 4th row to 1st. Alan was pushed, and I think had the people doing the pushing not known who we were, we would have been pushed much much harder. I saw people crouched down on the floor, trying to hide from security. I really can't understand this. These are people I've seen at show after show. I've seen my fair share of shows, and I'm not complaining, but I really don't understand this need to push and shove strangers out of the way just to be right up front, show after show after show. Richard, maybe you could explain it. This is not something directed at anyone in particular, but I am curious. and from johanna *snip* > I agree with you richard, how lucky we are to be able to travel and see tori > so much. i've been blessed in my experiences, and its good to be reminded how > grateful i should be. > > i am continually frustrated by the sentiment on this list and others, of > animosity towards said "regulars." it comes up time and time again, and while > i know jealousy is an understandable emotion to a degree, the outright > pettiness and accusatory tone taken often upsets me. > > we all have reasons for what we do and what we don't do, regarding tori and > the tour. i dont think its fair for anyone to judge another person's > decisions regarding how many shows to attend. As I said before I've been to my fair share of shows, not nearly as many as some but more than many. Anyway. I'm an also continiously frustrated by what pettiness I see at the shows, more so at the meet and greets. I don't care how many shows you see, and my only questioning of it might be, "how on earth do you do it?" What I think I can judge is this... the Boise meet and greet, Tori knew every single person in the front by name, and I think that's shitty when about 40 other people who had never even seen her, ever are stuck looking at the backs of people's heads. Explain the pushing the shoving. Please I'd like to see the justifications for this. I want to be told I shouldn't judge other people's actions, when they include such selfishness. I simply don't understand it. This is stuff I've seen first hand, and it sucks. As I said to Richard, its not one person, its a group of people. I've had my chance to meet Tori and I think it sucks that others cannot have that chance because a few people make some decisions that I'm not supposed to judge. *snip* > these folks should be thanked, not criticized. i am growing more and more > irritated with snide remarks and misinformed accusations. Should these people really be thanked?? For what? Potentially ruinning many people's day? For being selfish? Should the 15 year old who's one wish is just an autograph be happy because she got shoved aside by someone who'd got more pictures and ticket stubs than they can count? Really. I think the gripes people have are legitimate. I would like to point out here that I am not misinformed, everything I have said here I have experienced first hand. I really don't want to be hostile, but it is something, never have I experienced such selfishness, and I simply cannot grasp it. Yes, there are some very nice regulars, but I've seen the same people turn around and be down right nasty. This is simply my opinion, you can take or what's more likely, you'll leave it. I am actually very sorry I do sound hostile, but I can't let it slide, and if I can get them I'd like answers to the questions I've asked. Be Well Erika *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ "for if that which you seek, you find it not within yourself, you will never find it without." "some things only she knows" *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 01:43:51 EDT From: Dita720@aol.com Subject: hard rock live hi i was just wondering what it was like for those who actually made it inside to see the show. i waited about 4 hours to eventually find out that it was "very unlikely" that i'd get in. it wasn't a complete disaster, though. i got to bond with some of the other "people who go to the shows" as well. *jessie* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:58:01 -0500 From: "mr zebra" Subject: Re: 1000 Oceans Maxi-Single Question 1000 Oceans Baker Baker (live) Winter (live) multimedia - Bliss & 1000 Oceans videos Matthew I don't care what they think. I don't care what they say. What do they know about this love anyway? ICQ# 298707 mrzebra@fumblers.org http://surf.to/gotsarah - got Sarah? ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 03:33:29 EDT From: Dracovixen@aol.com Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V4 #312 In a message dated 10/17/99 2:42:28 AM, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org writes: << >Yesterday I walked into my local cd store, hoping to see a copy of the >long-awaited (for me at least, i haven't had time to get it yet) 1,000 >Oceans maixi single...and it wasn't there. The idiots that supposedly work >at the store didn't know a thing, as usual. Why did this single disappear? >> You'll find it at eBay.com, guaranteed. -Black Dove "I've got enough guilt to start my own religion." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 11:02:25 -0400 From: puppycakes Subject: Re: the mysterious tribute album when we last left our heroes, Emily W. Rigdon exclaimed: >Ahh! Here's the link to the Tori tribute album, and it's only 7 bucks or >so! I don't konw how good it could be. Who are the artists? Has anyone >bought this yet that could share about it? I've read some stuff about it, >but haven't heard anything about it from a toriphile who's heard it. i haven't heard the tribute yet, but the entire album was recorded by only one band: jemma pryce and e-cylpse. that's all i know. i'll review it when i get a copy (should be on order shortly). woj ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 23:25:44 -0400 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: siren mp3 At 07:23 PM 10/16/99 -0400, Diabolusinne@aol.com wrote: > >okay guys, >it's time for me to beg and plea.. does anyone have an mp3 of siren that >they'd be willing to send me? please? i'll grovel if i must.. please.. For those of you with newsgroup access, I -highly- recommend the newsgroup alt.binaries.tori-amos. In the past week, all the bee-sides have been posted (including several items only available on promos), the complete LiveX from this year, and the complete MusiquePlus was posted last night. Requests like this are usually filled if someone has it. If you post in alt.binaries.tori-amos with this request (so I know you're there and getting everything), I'll happily post a live version of "Siren" for you. /nad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 13:00:26 EDT From: Mac456789@aol.com Subject: Re: Hard Rock Live "VIP" ticket fiasco Well, I'm sorry to hear that there was a fiasco at this show. Personally, I had been dying to go see this show for the last month and couldn't figure out anyway to get a ticket! Also, I lack the time and energy that others can devote to seeing shows...but that's my loss. But anyway, I always enjoy Tori's shows vicariously through those that do get tickets. I've noticed that nobody has posted a review, or commentary on the show yet...except for the problems. I certainly hope that the problems at the show don't put an end to the wonderful reviews posted on the lists. thanks... ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 13:23:51 -0400 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V4 #312 At 03:33 AM 10/17/99 -0400, Dracovixen@aol.com wrote: >In a message dated 10/17/99 2:42:28 AM, owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org >writes: ><< >Yesterday I walked into my local cd store, hoping to see a copy of the >>long-awaited (for me at least, i haven't had time to get it yet) 1,000 >>Oceans maixi single...and it wasn't there. The idiots that supposedly work >>at the store didn't know a thing, as usual. Why did this single disappear? >You'll find it at eBay.com, guaranteed. -Black Dove For a commonly available item (which this definitely is), eBay is -not- the way to go. If you're going to order online, get it from CDNow, Amazon, or a real store; not some idiot who picked it up at Tower and is now trying to convince ill-informed buyers that it's rare and worth way more than they paid for it yesterday. /nad ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:06:21 -0400 From: "the fiercest calm i've been in" Subject: tori on E! Hey there - I was just wondering if anyone knows anything about a Tori segment on a program on E! (the Entertainment channel) coming up ???? My mom's boyfriend said he was watching E! and a commercial for an upcoming interview with Tori was shown. Unfortunately, he didn't catch the time or date...ugh Has anyone else heard about this? Thanks! Sarah *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* "You can sell millions and millions of records but that does not make you a musician." --Tori Amos "I got my first taste of freedom beneath the light of the moon..." -- Jewel "Where does magic come from? I think magic's in the learning, 'cause now when christians sit with pagans, only pumpkin pies are burning..." -- Dar Williams ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 13:15:12 EDT From: FireflyLG@aol.com Subject: Re: Hard Rock Live "VIP" ticket fiasco Hi! Erika, thank you so much for sharing this. I hope that this will some people's eyes, and get them to change their ways. I didn't want to say anything, but I went to my first concert ever, a Tori concert up in Mineapolis in September. I didn't have great seats, but it was still the best thing that has happened to me this year! The one complaint that I have was that, at the meet and greet, I had a letter to give to Tori, and a picture for her to sign. I considered myself lucky to be very close to the front. Right before Tori reached my place in line, I was shoved away by 3 people who felt the need to shove a 14 year old girl away from Tori! My God people! Tori knew you all by first name, and I know that one of you are on this list. I don't think that Tori saw this, because if she did I'm sure she would not have let you do it. We need to be considerate of other people's feelings. Because of this, I had to give my letter to a security guy (I hope that he gave it to Tori) and I didn't get my picture signed. Let's try to be a bit more considerate, and change our ways. I'm sure that Tori would appreciate it. Lov, Liz ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 15:08:05 EDT From: AngelChk21@aol.com Subject: hard rock live question hi! i know tori taped an episode for hard rock live, but does any one have any clue when they will air her performance?? Because i have a bad habbit of missing those sorts of things. thanks! ~~andrea ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:22:20 EDT From: "Terry Ferrell" Subject: when is it to air?? When is the Hard Rock Live performace going to air on VH1, anyone know?? Thanks Terry ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 17:06:29 EDT From: Spiritcc33@aol.com Subject: Pics of Tori? ... Does anyone have any pics of tori and her hubby? like new ones? or any recent tori pics at all? Cause if ya do,I'd appriciate if someone could forward them on to me:) Thanx VenusEnvy Carrie. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 16:36:20 -0500 From: "d i v i d i n g c a n a a n" Subject: Re: Tori On Y100's Sonic Sessions --- A review this brings up a question i've had since choirgirl..but it's better to ask now.. so, do you all prefer tori with the band or without now that she's done two albums with them and 2 tours? i didn't get into tori until pele/ choirgirl, and i like the band thing a lot more. she's much better at high-decibel sounds, i think. i mean, secret time is nice and all during the shows, but after those four or five songs solo, i'm ready for her to get back with the band. just comparing Sugar solo with the newer band version, i just love the band so much more. i was curious as to what you all prefer... anthonY:) "If you haven't swallowed it, smoked it, or licked it you suck!" - -tori amos- september 29, 1999 at Starplex in Dallas ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 18:35:28 -0400 From: Michael Curry Subject: fumbling-towards-ecstasy list moving to smoe.org! [Yes, this is off-topic for precious-things, since it's about Sarah and not Tori, but since Jeff, who runs smoe.org, asked me to forward it to my list I'm doing so.] - ----- Forwarded message from John Stewart ----- Due to the high crossover of fan base, I wanted to take just a second to let you know that Fumbling-Towards-Ecstasy, the Sarah McLachlan mailing list, has moved to smoe. Effective immediately [without any advance notice from its former home] and all that good stuff. If you or any of your subscribers are Sarah fans, please let them know that the former list @ yoyo.cc.monash.edu.au WILL be shutting down soon, and that folks need to unsub from that list and sub to fte@smoe.org. If they have any questions, they can write me at stewartj@seanet.com. Thanks! John John Stewart | stewartj@seanet.com Emerald City of Seattle, Washington, USA - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 14:27:33 EDT From: ThreeDs@aol.com Subject: Re: Hard Rock Live "VIP" ticket fiasco In a message dated 10/17/99 1:02:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, guildy@worldnet.att.net writes: << >> << Should these people really be thanked?? For what? Potentially ruinning many people's day? For being selfish? Should the 15 year old who's one wish is just an autograph be happy because she got shoved aside by someone who'd got more pictures and ticket stubs than they can count? Really. I think the gripes people have are legitimate. I would like to point out here that I am not misinformed, everything I have said here I have experienced first hand. I really don't want to be hostile, but it is something, never have I experienced such selfishness, and I simply cannot grasp it. Yes, there are some very nice regulars, but I've seen the same people turn around and be down right nasty. This is simply my opinion, you can take or what's more likely, you'll leave it. I am actually very sorry I do sound hostile, but I can't let it slide, and if I can get them I'd like answers to the questions I've asked. Be Well Erika >> I agree with that totally from what she said about the 15 year old. Okay I am 13 yes I was jsut a wee lil one when LIttle Earthquakes came out and not even born when Y KANT TORI READ waas out. Yes I went to the Atlanta Meet and Greet and ya know what I got an autograph that says Tori Amos. And do you relize how happy I was just to know Tori touched that and that she saw what I had bought. I was the happiest thing on the earth. No I did not meet her yet I was thrilled with capticty that she touched the same thing that I touched. I only touched where she signed it about 5 times.Which each time I look at it, it makes me smile so big:).So for people out there who is reading this and have had the chance to meet Tori. Please just be thankful for what you have had the chance to. We are all luck to get the chance to go to the Meet and Greets unlike the Britney Spears fans that probably will never meet her or get a signature.(no I am not comparing Britney to Tori) So jsut be thankful. Toodles, Amelia ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:10:48 -0400 From: woj sven-woj Subject: tori tv alert: e! news daily the dent is reporting that there will be a segment about tori on e! news daily on monday, october 18th at 7pm. the listings on e! website won't be updated until monday and none of the other tv listings sites seem to know if tori will be on the program or not. (if someone can check the listings tomorrow and post if tori is listed, that would be swell since i won't be able to get near a computer until monday evening. if you're paranoid, just set your vcr's.) please check your local tv listings to find out which cable channel e! is on your area. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:40:02 -0400 From: woj sven-woj Subject: Re: tori tv alert: e! daily news when we last left our heroes, woj sven-woj exclaimed: >the dent is reporting that there will be a segment about tori on e! >news daily on monday, october 18th at 7pm. i've been double-checking tv listings and it appears that this show may actually air at 6:30pm. while the program's home page says 7pm, last week's schedule and my copy of this week's tv guide say 6:30pm. so, if you can be in front of your tv, check both times. if you can't, well, that's what vcr timers are for. ;) woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:58:30 -0400 From: woj sven-woj Subject: tori tv alert: charlie rose another tv reminder: according to the dent, tori will be interviewed on the charlie rose show on monday, october 18th. this is a public television program which airs at different times in different parts of the united states, so check your local listings to find out when it shows in your area. (the pbs website has a fast-finder for locating the program schedule of your local public tv station at ). woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:27:22 EDT From: angel dust Subject: Re: Pics of Tori? ... me too! i lost the old ones from spin, or rolling stone, whatever..... like latex, fur and feathers: angel "i'm all your nightmares rolled into one." - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Does anyone have any pics of tori and her hubby? like new ones? or any recent tori pics at all? Cause if ya do,I'd appriciate if someone could forward them on to me:) Thanx VenusEnvy Carrie. ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:16:13 -0400 From: puppycakes Subject: Re: hard rock live question when we last left our heroes, AngelChk21@aol.com exclaimed: >hi! i know tori taped an episode for hard rock live, but does any one have >any clue when they will air her performance?? Because i have a bad habbit of >missing those sorts of things. thanks! the air date for hard rock live has not been announced yet. fear not though: when vh1 posts the schedule, the news will be all over the tori mailing lists and websites. woj ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 19:27:22 EDT From: angel dust Subject: Re: Tori On Y100's Sonic Sessions --- A review i seriously love both, the band makes it bigger, but w/out is more personal..... like latex, fur and feathers: angel "that's why they call me the mistress of pain" - --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- this brings up a question i've had since choirgirl..but it's better to ask now.. so, do you all prefer tori with the band or without now that she's done two albums with them and 2 tours? i didn't get into tori until pele/ choirgirl, and i like the band thing a lot more. she's much better at high-decibel sounds, i think. i mean, secret time is nice and all during the shows, but after those four or five songs solo, i'm ready for her to get back with the band. just comparing Sugar solo with the newer band version, i just love the band so much more. i was curious as to what you all prefer... anthonY:) "If you haven't swallowed it, smoked it, or licked it you suck!" - -tori amos- september 29, 1999 at Starplex in Dallas ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:44:27 -0400 (EDT) From: Ellen Morris Subject: Re: Hard Rock Live "VIP" ticket fiasco hi all, i am the utter lurker. but every so often "i hear my voice" and these are one of these times. i just want to take a moment to share with you all why i am so addicted to tori. please bear with me, its relevant to the discussion at hand (i think ) the first exposure i had to tori was in college, fall 92. my friend got little earthquakes and copied it for our friend, at the time, my roommate. we loved to sleep to music and for some god awful reason, she would play it to sleep to. it was so unsettling for me that my night would turn into the shadows of tori and my respite would come like the sun on a new day as i heard the first sounds from "little earthquakes" and i knew the music would be over and i could sleep. i hated little earthquakes. i hated it b/c it made me look at all that was wrong in my life. not something you really want to do before entering the dreamland, well at least i didn't like to at the time. but somehow i moved on and grew to love many of the songs, but didn't toriphile myself until summer 94. i had just returned from a semester abroad. i had a difficult time in london and a lot of personal difficulties and i was returning to college to search for an apartment for the next year. the nite i came into town, tori was playing at the landmark theatre in downtown syracuse. my friend said lets go down, it wont be sold out. and by this time i was a fan of a few of her songs. so we went expecting to find horrible seats. but as we entered the box office to buy the tickets, my tori angel of mercy came upon myself and my two friends and asked us if we were in need of 3 tix. he assured us of his decent intentions and that he was not scalping them... he ran us in the down pouring rain down the block to sell us his 3 13th row center seats. turns out that he had those 3 seats but came across front row seats, so we bought his old tix from him and were Oh So Happy b/c the view was amazing. tori was amazing. and from that moment on i was hooked. but what i remember soooo much was how wonderful that guy was and how i just got this great feeling how wonderful tori and her music was and what wonderful people appreciated her music. her music has freed me in so many ways and i owe a big part of it to the tori fan who offered us those 3 seats. it had such a positive spin on the evening that it was difficult not to enjoy ourselves that nite. in fact there was no way that we were going to not have a good time. and i know that was not his purpose, he was just trying to get his money back for the tickets and was looking out for his finances but he could have sold them at a higher cost. and it wasnt even that there was just such a friendly vibe from him. so if you are out there. i want to thank you. i have met so many wonderful people through tori amos. i have also run into a few not so nice people. but for the most part i find wonderful people to talk to when i see tori. people that are insightful and usually caring of others, but i am sadly seeing that caring of others slowly dwindle. we are special. we seek out more from our music. we search our souls as tori exposes hers. so why is it that we are coming up short still on our sense of humanity. we arent a bunch of petty star struck selfish idiots, stepping on anyones toes (literally) to catch a better glimpse of the goddess that we commonly adore, or are we we often get pegged as this fanatical cult following. what do we keep reading over and over about tori, that she is not accepted by all but those who except her love her devotedly. we have a bond and that bond is tori and her music. if we really believe in her and what she is doing musically, we should really stick together, a united front. we are her people. we are her ears with feet. if we do not build a stronger sense of comradity and restrain ourselves from combativeness than i fear for the future of toriland. i really hope that i have expressed myself well and that my words do not offend, b/c they are only intended to envoke a higher consciousness, a higher set of standards that we hold for ourselves when it comes to how we treat one another. tori has used the term "elegant" to describe us. that may or may not be true for the majority of us, but if we lose sight of it and get lost in the upwind of this new animosity for one another b/c we all want a piece of her and some want too much and the others are resentful, well then we loose sight of who we are and what we came here for. we came her b/c her music said something to us. its the same music. entering many different hearts, but having the same intoxicating effect. we didnt come here to say i am a better fan then you. we did not come here b/c we physically need a piece of her. we already all have it within us. its not her hugs or her image or her autographs that make us love her, its her music and her message. lets not forget it , PLEASE spoken in love of tori, ellen _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~| The stars around _______ the beautiful moon ((_______)) keep hidden their glittering | | | | radiance, whenever in its | | | | fullness it shines upon | | | | the earth | | | | - -sappho | | _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ |_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~_~| ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:18:59 -0400 (EDT) From: "Carrie B." Subject: Re: tori tv alert: e! daily news What time an channel is this on on the east coast? On Sun, 17 Oct 1999, woj sven-woj wrote: > > when we last left our heroes, woj sven-woj exclaimed: > > >the dent is reporting that there will be a segment about tori on e! > >news daily on monday, october 18th at 7pm. > > i've been double-checking tv listings and it appears that this show may > actually air at 6:30pm. > > while the program's home page says > 7pm, last week's schedule and my copy of > this week's tv guide say 6:30pm. > > so, if you can be in front of your tv, check both times. if you can't, > well, that's what vcr timers are for. ;) > > woj > : `. ; .' `. .-'''-. .' ;' __ _;' Carrie E. Batcheller / '_ _`\ 165 A Pleasant St. | _( a ( a | Melrose MA 02176 '''''| (_) > |`````` \ \ / / http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/9523 `. `--'.' .' `-,,,-' `. .' : `. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 22:46:57 EDT From: Spiritcc33@aol.com Subject: Charlie Rose? Hey... I was just wondering what day she was going to be on Charlie Rose is it tomarrow the 18th..? and does n e one know what time??? ok _ Hugs and stuff..._ "Cornflake Girl" *~*Carrie*~* ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 17 Oct 1999 21:40:17 -0500 From: "mr zebra" Subject: Woodstock CD And Video Will Benefit RAINN Woodstock CD And Video Will Benefit RAINN; Cops Pay For Damage control, guilty conscience, or genuine act of compassion? Whatever the case may be, Woodstock '99 organizers are going to be donating a portion of the proceeds from sales of the upcoming "Woodstock '99" album and video to RAINN, the Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network. Shortly after Woodstock '99 wrapped up amid fires and looting on July 25, reports surfaced of eight alleged rapes and sexual assaults; to date, two arrests have been made in one of the assault cases, with police investigations continuing on the others (see "Woodstock Organizers, Police Address Rape Cases"). It's been over a month since Woodstock '99 organizers promised to take action to combat sexual assault at concerts, following a pointed speech made by Beastie Boy Adam Horovitz at the 1999 MTV Video Music Awards. Referring to Woodstock '99, Horovitz called out to fellow artists as well as concert promoters to make safety for women a priority when organizing concerts (see "Lauryn Hill, Fatboy Slim, Ricky Martin, Korn Lead VMA Pack"). Woodstock '99 promoters were quick to respond, issuing a statement that read, in part, "We stand ready to work with any other producers, artists and other industry leaders to ensure that it is universally understood that violence is not acceptable and will not be tolerated at our concerts or anywhere else" (see "Woodstock Responds To Beastie Call For Security"). In a more recent statement, Scher called upon the rest of the music industry to become more involved in protecting concertgoers from sexual assault. "I hope every artist, record label and producer will get more involved and work with RAINN and with me to help solve this problem," read a portion of Scher's statement. "We owe that to the fans." In other Woodstock '99 news, ten state troopers and two supervisors were suspended for cavorting with semi-nude women at the troubled festival. Last week, more than two months after the troopers were accused of the acts, Police Superintendent James W. McMahon issued a statement announcing the suspensions. His statement read, in part, "While extremely pleased with the professional conduct of the vast majority of the over 500 troopers assigned to the Woodstock '99 Concert, I was appalled at the conduct and action of a handful of troopers who brought discredit to the agency and themselves." The investigation identified six state troopers and one State Police supervisor who posed for photos with semi-nude women. The supervisor, who was immediately suspended without pay following the incident, was the subject of an administrative hearing before a panel of three commissioned officers, who recommended that the officer's disciplinary sanctions include a one-step reduction in rank and a significant suspension without pay. The other troopers previously and voluntarily accepted penalties consisting of multiple-day suspensions without pay and formal censures Also receiving disciplinary action were four state troopers and one supervisor who paid to have their patrol cars washed at a topless car wash organized by Woodstock '99 attendees; all five received multi-day suspensions without pay, as well as formal censures. - -- Brian Ives Matthew I don't care what they think. I don't care what they say. What do they know about this love anyway? 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