From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #280 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, September 22 1999 Volume 04 : Number 280 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: cornflake girl MP3 [puppycakes ] Article in Charlotte Observer E&T magazine ["Eva Szentpetery" ] i got tvab last night ["glytter grrl" ] Concertina (small Interp) [Ken Tough ] Re: a very very bad EFW [Richard Handal ] live album ! & KROQ Breakfast ["Wake UpNeo" ] Official Tori site is FINALLY updated!!! [Fafarafan@aol.com] Re: precious-things-digest V4 #279 [Heather Cook ] blue skies inquiry [Toras81@aol.com] TVAB Lithograph ["E.L Walker" ] tori merch ["~Wendi~" ] Tori Amos article - 'Marie Claire' ["E.L Walker" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:26:35 -0400 From: puppycakes Subject: Re: cornflake girl MP3 when we last left our heroes, +_courtney_+ exclaimed: >a week or so ago somebody posted links to the 4 Central Park/Good Morning >America songs in mp3. I only downloaded 2 of them and would relaly like to >get my hands on "Cornflake Girl" > >Can anybody help?? sure. here's where the mp3's can be found: http://www.smoe.org/woj/CentralPark-01-Crucify.mp3 http://www.smoe.org/woj/CentralPark-02-Interview.mp3 http://www.smoe.org/woj/CentralPark-03-Bliss.mp3 http://www.smoe.org/woj/CentralPark-04-CornflakeGirl.mp3 woj ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Sep 1999 23:07:57 -0400 From: "Eva Szentpetery" (by way of puppycakes ) Subject: Article in Charlotte Observer E&T magazine This article was in Friday's Charlotte Observer, in the E&T insert. Death in Mexican desert haunted, inspired Tori Amos by Lindsey Henry Voices, spirits and supernatural forces don't spook Tori Amos. She's used to them shaking her awake at night with demands that their song be written, and the songs on her new album "to venus and back" are no exception. The voices of women who met violent deaths in the desert town of Juarez, Mexico, summoned Amos while her "from the choirgirl hotel" tour rolled through Texas. More than 120 women had been found dead around the city since 1993, and Amos said she translated their anguish into the song "Juarez," telling their story from the desert's perspective. The album, her fifth solo effort with Atlantic Records, will be in stores Tuesday. "I was inspired by Juarez on the road," she said while on tour with Alanis Morissette in August. " We were by the border and I was dragged out of the bunk. The song was grabbing me by the throat, saying you have to sing the song. It was just clear that the voices were calling me; the desert was obviously the only thing that heard her last breath, and everything started coming after that." The song's distraught melodies, paired with an industrial, almost techno sound, match the isolation of the desert wasteland. Amos wrote and produced the new material on "to venus and back," recording it with the band that accompanied her on tour. New songs trace themes of binding father-daughter relationships, loss of loved ones and the dissolution of living in Los Angeles in the 1980s. Wrenching, layered lyrics, coupled with evocative, occasionally haunting and longing tunes give Amos' ardent fan base more of what they crave. In "1,000 Oceans," Amos sings of crying oceans of tears to sail someone back. The song would fall flat with most anyone singing of longing, but the sadness in her voice makes it real. The song "comes from a few places" said Amos, who was born in Newton. "It started with a dream I had. An African woman was singing to me singing the melody, humming it to me. I got up and found the piano, got up at 5:45 a.m., recorded the melody and went back to bed." Inspiration for lyrics came later when her father-in-law died in February. Amos matched the feelings that accompany emotional isolation with her husband's grieving process. Her husband is Mark Hawley, one of her engineers. "They were so incredibly close that '1,000 Oceans' seemed to be the only thing that could bring him out of his sadness," she said. "He'd come out and sit and say, 'Could you play that one, the ocean song?' It became about feeling close to people you can't reach, seeing this depth of love for this person who was gone." Initially the album was to be a collection of b-sides. Yet once the muses and spirits stopped in for a visit, Amos and her engineers decided to rework their plans. They paired her 13 new songs with 12 live tracks from the "choirgirl" tour. "We had like an NBA playoff system going," she said of the live song selection process. "It was a four-point ranking system, starting with the ones that just had this magic about them." Round after round, Amos and company pitted song against song and finally narrowed the field to 12. Combining new and live music brings two of her universes together, she said. "There are two worlds for them," she said. "They feed off each other. The live wouldn't exist without the studio. They go in tandem with each other." Live songs include "Bells for Her", "Waitress," "Mr. Zebra," "Sugar," and perennial fan favorite "Cornflake Girl." ____________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from ToriNews, e-mail torinews-request@smoe.org with the word "unsubscribe" in the message body. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 11:58:07 -0500 From: Dust A Bunny Subject: Towers Smowers, grumble Yo, I want to say that Tower Records are meanies. $21.99, while everyone else has it for $16.99. Too bad they are the only record place within walking distance, so yeah I got sucked in and waited an hour to get the freaking cd at the midnight thingy. All these NIN fans and Tori fans lined up outside of the store. Oh well. Take care. Bi bis. 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Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 07:31:59 EDT From: "glytter grrl" Subject: i got tvab last night hey everyone! i got tvab yesterday at school kids records in exile on state street for 14.99!! the digipak is beautiful, kinda bummed though that it doesn't list what the live show dates are!!!:( i'm listeing to it right now, before work....it's so great i love it! i didn't hav ethe chance to listen yesterday because of the lack of cd player and a tape deck for car converter kit. grrrr...can't wait till my new stereo is installed. but so far i love it! i really really love blisss, concertina and lust so far....those have grabbed me right away....i loved the yell/voicebox sound in juarez.... overall, this is such a new sound for tori, and i love it! although i know many will not....it's not your "classic" tori everyone seems to get bent out of shape about when she tries something new....ah well....take care everyone!!!! one last thought,.....anyone have detroit 9/12/99 yet? i'm on the look for it! ~~~becka ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:58:24 +0100 From: Ken Tough Subject: Concertina (small Interp) Apparently crtny wrote: >i totaly didnt know what a squeezebox was! thank you for filling me in. i >was jsut talking tomy friend like "what the fuck is tori talking about THIS >time?" and he had no clue either. ... >the whole song has this crazy irish pub feel to me, lyrics-wise. drinking, >feverish glances, fiercest clams, "trancing the sauce" (getting drunk >maybe?) and just a plain old-fashioned pub scene. maybe im just as crazy as >she is (god knows my poems remind people of her, with all the obscurity) Heh, "fiercest clams", I like that. The lyrics I read had "fiercest calms", but if it is just a typo, I still like it. As you say, some of it does seem to have a bit of a risque feel, some double-meanings. "I've got my fuzz all tipped to play" is a nice example, perhaps The classic Squeeze Box reference is the song by that name by The Who. I believe the implied meaning for "squeeze box" goes further back into blues history, but don't know it. http://www.thewho.net/discography/songs/SqueezeBox.html Mama's got a squeeze box She wears on her chest And when Daddy comes home He never gets no rest 'Cause she's playing all night And the music's all right Mama's got a squeeze box Daddy never sleeps at night By the way, never realised before just how badly named "The Who" is, for the 'information age'. The futility of searching for them on the web never hit me before. - -- Ken Tough ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 03:37:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: a very very bad EFW Wurmy said: > there was a thread going around a while ago about the meet and greets and > some of the ppl that are ALWAYS there and who always feel the need to be in > front. well, i mentioned this particular person at the time and was > informed by mr. josh meier that she gave the money from her pics to > RAINN...um no she doesnt and here is proof from her very own web page. some > of you may recognize her from shows and have even bought pics from her. I want to be clear that Dor would never tell people that she sells her photos to benefit RAINN. I will stake my reputation of the fact that Dor is not a person who would misrepresent herself in such a manner. Further, Tori is well aware that Dor sells those photos; and I have to say the ones Dor sells have been tacitly approved by Tori, because if someone hands a photo to Tori for an autograph that Tori doesn't like she will yell out, "Dorothy!," and Dor won't distribute that particular photo anymore. If folks feel a deep need to demonize people who see a ton of shows I expect them to at least get their facts straight. I've heard from multiple people that I was supposedly backstage in Providence last October taking photos and was tossed out when I was discovered. Anyone who knows me and heard such an idiotic story about me not only didn't believe it for a second, but laughed when they heard it because it was so ludicrous. I can't say I'm in love with every person who finds their way to many shows, but neither can I understand nor explain (with anything other than petty jealousies) why some of us seem to get so much crap from people who don't know us and have no idea what the hell they're talking about when they decide they know things about us. It's little surprise, then, when I hear some of the bizarre explanations for things Tori has done which make perfect sense in context--if only folks would bother to learn what that context is before deciding that Tori is either crazy, pregnant, angry, sad, happy, or fill-in-the-projected-emotion. Tori is a person, and life is complex. Same goes for we who go to many shows. We are people, and life is complex with regards to us as well. If people looked into the lives of any one of you and saw 90 seconds of behavior, then felt free not only to draw conclusions based on that 90 seconds but to post to mailing lists with hundreds or thousands of people then how would *you* feel? I thought so. It's sheer lunacy. Folks need to get a grip. Yes, I'm angry. Dor is a kind, empathetic person who has helped many people including me. Of all the regulars who attend many shows, I'd place her at the bottom of any list of people about whom others might have legitimate complaints. Sheesh! Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 10:05:09 GMT From: "Wake UpNeo" Subject: live album ! & KROQ Breakfast Hi guys ! I feel like I've run a marathon tonite even tho all I did was wait in line !! I'm listening to the Live: Still Orbiting cd from _To Venus and Back_ and it's reallllyy good imho =) Before "Mr. Zebra", Tori says something about "wabbits !" it's so cute ! =) Sorry I can't be more specific but it's turned way down cos of sleeping neighbors ! The live songs are really great... I got my copy tonight because the Virgin Megastore had them beginning at 12:01. Technically that's Tuesday ! Not long into waiting, I began to feel really sick and nauseous; did that stop me ? No, (though I wondered how sane that was !) every time I thought about leaving I thought, well I've waited this long ! (The line wound around the inside of the store & up & down aisles once and a half; and the place is huge) When I finally got up to the register, I was rewarded I guess (as was everyone else that nite): there was a free Tori poster with each cd ! Sometimes they have giveaways for people buying CDs the first night, but they've never had a Tori freebie there before ! I was really surprised. It was a black and white poster of Tori; mine's rolled up and I didn't get to see theirs very long, but it's from the album photo session. The cd was in cardboard, it folds out and there is Venus on each side. And in the middle, Tori. And from the middle, a lyric booklet slides out. The in-store DJ played songs from the new cd, such as Juarez, Datura, and Suede, and also a live one (at my request hee; I think he thinks of me as "the Tori girl" I request her whenever I go in and he always complies *s* I've even been known to buy & lend them a new cd single if they'd lost their booth copy... just so they could play it lol.), he chose "Cornflake Girl" for the live one. So we got a preview while in line. It was fun despite my feeling awful. Now I'm listening to it, and I really like it ! Juarez is so sad, I haven't heard the new songs at home yet tho and am curious to hear Josephine. I've been blabbing but... I also wanted to say that a guy from KROQ was by the door handing out "KROQ Top 100 Artists" posters and that Tori was #20 on it ! Photo of her and all. I asked him about the Breakfast with Tori and Alanis, and he said he didn't know much except it would be Friday morning, and Kevin and Bean were giving away the tickets on their show. I asked, and he said he *thinks* the (breakfast show) giveaway will go on all week (on Kevin & Bean's show). The radio ad about it said the show is gonna be in "a small club", Friday morning. The KROQ poster guy said they're usually at 8ish AM. The Kevin & Bean show is on from 6-9 AM weekdays-- I think those hours are correct (just tried to call there but no answer). The contest line is 1-800-520-1067. Again, double check that altho I'm 99 % sure. The channel is 106.7 FM. Good luck ! K. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:20:04 EDT From: Fafarafan@aol.com Subject: Official Tori site is FINALLY updated!!! Hey everyone, If you haven't noticed yet, the official TORI site www.tori.com has been totally changed and it looks really nice!!!! check it out. bye!!! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 16:16:22 -0400 From: Heather Cook Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V4 #279 Question..... I'm a little confused. What makes the box set so A. expensive and B. different from the regular CD? Someone? Anyone? heather ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 13:20:27 EDT From: Toras81@aol.com Subject: blue skies inquiry hello everyone, i'm a first time poster to this list, and i have been an EWF for a few years now..okay enough with the history..i was doing some extensive research at borders yesterday on the search computer and i came across an import tori single called "blue skies" and i placed and order for it. i have heard of this before, but i don't know uch about it..can someone tell me about "blue skies", or what you know of it? thank you! ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 22:02:30 +0100 From: "E.L Walker" Subject: TVAB Lithograph I was wondering if anyone knew where I could...preferably.. get the 'To Venus & Back' lithograph for free..basically anyone who has an email or internet access because most of these shops that seem to be giving them away with the album also seem to be in America and I can't visit them!. Failing that if anyone sells them?. Any help would be truly appreciated. Ta Squidgy ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 18:29:36 -0400 From: "~Wendi~" Subject: tori merch does anyone know if the alanisandtori.com web site is still planning on selling tori merchandise?? the 'store' page used to say "tori amos merchandise coming soon", or something like that, but now it says nothing about tori on the store page... any info would be appreciated. thanks! wendi ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 21 Sep 1999 21:22:48 +0100 From: "E.L Walker" Subject: Tori Amos article - 'Marie Claire' I was flicking through next months edition of "Marie Claire" magazine (UK edition), when I came to a page which caught my eye, basically I think it was because it was a rather nice piccie of a Cornish landscape, I looked closely at the 'woman' in the picture....and it was Tori!, happy me!. Anyhow its in their 'Soul Survivors' section, it discusses the rape, miscarriage and heartache Tori Amos has suffered, how she has found her peace in a remote part of Cornwall, that she loves everything about it, the people the history the landscape etc, damn wish I lived there!, never bumped into her when I went there on holiday :-( (fat chance). Its a lovely iccle article (when I say iccle its a total of 4 pages with 3 yummy photos). The reporter ends the article leaving you with the impression that she feels Tori is at last content, with this rather lovely closing paragraph; "You get the feeling that Tori's OK, that she's getting to where she needs to be in life. She still does great rock, but is relishing the rustic existence she and Mark have made for themselves. The one that allows her to eat homemade bread in her kitchen daily and run around in her green wellies and old shorts talking out loud to flowers. An existence that allows her to be artistic, kooky, complex. We wouldn't want her any other way". Squidgy P.S Anyone who buys this edition....do you think Posh Spice will sue for that statement on the front of the magazine?! :-0. "I wanted to do something sexy on this tour - the feminist fist-in-the-air thing has been done. I'm hoping to blindfold the piano and rub down Alanis with ice cubes". - Tori Amos ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #280 *************************************