From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #189 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, June 24 1999 Volume 04 : Number 189 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Musing/Hoping for Tori covers [KAPS72@aol.com] Re: Me and You [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: lyrics [KAPS72@aol.com] Re: About the new material... [Nadyne Mielke ] Tori's Religion. [Jen ] Re: About the new material... [Freque79@aol.com] Re: Cloud On My Tongue ["C.F." ] Great Balls Of Butterfly Wings [Terry Ferrell ] Re: the Cult of Tori [Jen ] Re: Fav. Tori Video [KAPS72@aol.com] re: candy [tarot@pon.net] this new song [beulah girl ] [none] [Tha Shaigirl ] Re: Fav. Tori Video ["Mr Zebra" ] Re: About the new material... [Mikewhy ] Re: Me and You [XXXPandora@aol.com] Re: tripping [XXXPandora@aol.com] Re: End Sessions [KNHoppe@aol.com] Re: lyrics [Princess Shannon ] Re: (Tori-boot) making mountians out of mudpies [GonaTwinkl@aol.com] Re: About the new material... [sknauf@ibm.net] Re: Fav. Tori Video [Beulahsd@aol.com] Re: Fav. Tori Video [Daisy Dead Petals ] Re: lyrics [skh ] Possible Tori on TV?? [PeaCeGrLy2@aol.com] why turn off at pele [Tom xxxxx ] Survey Results! ["E.L Walker" ] Survey Results! ["E.L Walker" ] Re: About the new material... [Cutiepant6@aol.com] Re: tripping (or Re: Magical Blend) [Daisy Dead Petals ] Spivak and questions you would ask tori [JewlyaINAP@aol.com] InfoBeat Article... [Tha Shaigirl ] Wing [Kristen xxxx ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:58:00 EDT From: KAPS72@aol.com Subject: Re: Musing/Hoping for Tori covers I think that's an excellent idea. One that's definately worth looking into. - - Kim "...and all of those up there are making it look so easy with their perfect wings a wing can cover all sorts of things...." - - Sister Janet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:27:12 -0500 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Me and You At 12:17 PM 6/23/99 -0700, Kenneth Mayer wrote: >How do I obtain the new song off the "Hands of Fate" soundtrack? The >record stores do not have it. The soundtrack has not been released. There is talk that it might. Your best bet is to wait and see, since "Hands of Fate" is only being played in select markets right now. /nad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:56:12 EDT From: KAPS72@aol.com Subject: Re: lyrics Hi! Welcome! I can't answer the first question you had: <> But I will give my 2 sents on the second one: <> I've always loved 'Black Dove (January)', and the way I see this part of the song is pretty much the way you did. These lyrics hit very close to home for me as I did not enjoy living with my parents when I was younger, which was painful and difficult. ("...she never let on how insane it was, in that tiny kinda scary house, by the woods...."). And knowing that I wanted to leave much sooner than I actually did, I take the "helicopter" part to mean, like you said, she can't fly away. And the "cop out" part is that she did not give up, she tried. Just MHO. - - Kim "...and all of those up there are making it look so easy with their perfect wings a wing can cover all sorts of things...." - - Sister Janet ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:25:55 -0500 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: About the new material... At 06:21 AM 6/23/99 +0000, Tha Shaigirl wrote: > >Okay, so after reading the article in Rolling Stone (which I recently posted >to the list for those who don't get it), I've come to a conclusion about >Tori's upcoming new 2disc CD. I know one disc is suppose to be songs taken >from a few of the 98 shows and the other disc is suppose to be of new >material. But if you notice in RS, it says "don't expect a ton of fresh >material", she said "I'm not going to bore anybody". Yeah, right Tori, like >you could possibly bore ANY of us with your music! So my conclusion is this >"new material" disc isn't going to be new to most of us at all. Maybe one or >two NEW songs, but we'll probably see a lot of b-sides, like Cooling. Songs >that the general Tori public might not know. I mean the 5 1/2 Weeks Tour >site put "Honey" up as our *special* unreleased song. And I dunno about you, >but I'm thinking just about everyone on this mailing list has heard that >tune once or twice! Whatta ya guys think? Anyone care to differ? ~Shai I don't think that it will be bee-sides. There was originally supposed to be a bee-sides disc in the box set, but she shrunk it to two discs and said the second would be "new material". In addition, there are recent interviews where she explicitly says that she'd written new material and will be releasing it on the disc. We -might- get some bee-sides, but I'm more guessing that any bee-sides on there will be part of the live album -- "Honey" and/or "Sugar" strike me as likely candidates for inclusion. /nad ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:32:31 -0700 From: Jen Subject: Tori's Religion. Greetings... I've seen a bit of this and that about what Tori's religious practices are. I've heard everything from Wicca to Agnosticism. I was hoping that maybe someone could clue me in, what's she into? Using LSD for Shamanic journey's sounds kind of Pagan to me, but only because that's what I think of when I hear the word 'shamanic'. I've wondered about this forever because her music is so enlightening and spiritual to me, I'm all, 'well, what's she on?' I'd appreciate any input, Jen ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:35:03 EDT From: Freque79@aol.com Subject: Re: About the new material... What I thought that she meant when she said "don't expect a lot of new material" is for during the tour. Since the album won't be released until AFTER the tour is over, she doesn't want to have us all be bored by these new songs that we don't know if she plays them all the time during the tour. I fully expect the new album to be chock full of new things we've never heard. Especially since some article somewhere mentioned that she had gotten "on a roll" while creating the new Double CD set, and wrote all sorts of new things. Mairie http://members.xoom.com/_XOOM/pianoqueen/index.html Ode to the Piano Queen In a message dated 6/23/99 10:24:09 PM Central Daylight Time, shaigirl79@hotmail.com writes: > Okay, so after reading the article in Rolling Stone (which I recently posted > to the list for those who don't get it), I've come to a conclusion about > Tori's upcoming new 2disc CD. I know one disc is suppose to be songs taken > from a few of the 98 shows and the other disc is suppose to be of new > material. But if you notice in RS, it says "don't expect a ton of fresh > material", she said "I'm not going to bore anybody". Yeah, right Tori, like > you could possibly bore ANY of us with your music! So my conclusion is this > "new material" disc isn't going to be new to most of us at all. Maybe one or > > two NEW songs, but we'll probably see a lot of b-sides, like Cooling. Songs > that the general Tori public might not know. I mean the 5 1/2 Weeks Tour > site put "Honey" up as our *special* unreleased song. And I dunno about you, > > but I'm thinking just about everyone on this mailing list has heard that > tune once or twice! Whatta ya guys think? Anyone care to differ? ~Shai ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:23:32 EDT From: "C.F." Subject: Re: Cloud On My Tongue Ok, here it is....short and sweet... Interviewer: "some of the images, just even in the titles, that are just so wonderful, like Cloud on My Tongue, for somebody who talks for a living, that means something to me, it has a feeling to it. Where did that image come to you? Did you have the idea for the song and then try to figure out something to explain it?" TA: "No, well, cuz I didn't wanna....I didn't...My pride wouldn't me cry in front of this person and that's what it felt like...I didn't want to cry. I couldn't....I just couldn't." For those that are interested, this is from the I'm On Fire boot. The interview was taken from the 3-18-94 appearance on the World Cafe. Cheerios! Carly >From: Richard Handal >To: cokiebear@hotmail.com >Subject: Re: Could On My Tongue >Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 01:17:00 -0400 (EDT) > >Hi: > > > If I get a chance, I'll listen to it again when I get home and then > > post to the group about it. > >Any portions of that wonderful interview you might be able to post will >be well appreciated 'round these parts. :-) > >Many thanks, > >Richard Handal, H.G. > ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 04:55:34 GMT From: Terry Ferrell Subject: Great Balls Of Butterfly Wings Hey Guys............I just had a thought, I was reading some posts about how some people would like her to cover a Pink Floyd tune. Well I thinking, I would really like to hear Tori do a cover of GREAT BALLS OF FIRE. I don't even really like that song, and to tell you the truth I couldn't tell you who sings it if my life depended on it. But it is just the fact that it is a piano tune, and I think that Tori could do wonders with it. I was also thinking that how I would like to hear Tori do a cover of smashing pumpkins' Bullet With Butterfly Wings. I really don't have a good reason for picking that, it is just one of my favorite songs, and I think it would be pretty neat-O if tori did a cover of it. Just some of my little thoughts, Terry _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 21:43:37 -0700 From: Jen Subject: Re: the Cult of Tori Cultoftori@aol.com wrote: > And we are Not worshipping Tori Amos. She is merely the "Buddha" figure, so > to say, > bringing her teachings and wisdom to us as a guide. > The only worship is of the Self. It's about healing and finding wholeness. Right on, Alice, I have always felt that Tori definitely had some sort of spiritual, super-natural, ethereal connection with something far more enlightened than us mere mortals. I liked your analogy of the Buddha...ever read the Sutra's? I can relate far better to Tori's writing than I can to any of the Sutra's Buddha did. Or Jesus' stuff from the Gospels? I can far better relate to 'If the divine master plan is perfection, maybe next I'll give Judas a try.' There's deep wisdom in that. I'm sure Tori would shy away from being a guru of any sort. But sharing the enlightenment we receive from her lyrics/music is a wonderful idea. I've been struggling a great deal with my spiritualism and once I listened to iieee, everything seemed to clarify. Why can't it be beautiful, you know?Jen ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:12:51 EDT From: KAPS72@aol.com Subject: Re: Fav. Tori Video Hi Terry! I love the CALS video too, especially the part you mentioned with the three versions of Tori in the chair. I have felt that way and I'm not dead! (though at times I thought I was.....) And also, I like the swan swimming alone right from the beginning. I know that swans are famous for manogamy and it's not often you see one alone as they mate for life. But (after all that :>) ) I would have to say my VERY favorite video is "Hey Jupiter". When I first saw it I had never heard the song before. And I thought,"My God! What did Tori do to herself." But as I watched and listened, I cried. Because that was me. And I've felt that way so many times. Just sitting watching it all burn with makeup running down my face unable to move. And then the little girl comes in and takes her hand (my 5 year old daughter is blonde and I've so often said I would not be here if it weren't for her!) and is taking her out of the building while Tori is just staring at the walls. And when she gets outside no one notices her. All they see is the fire. And then when they're in the safety of the car (knowing where it's parked) the little girl is giggling jumping on the seat while Tori is crying (my daughter oblivious, as children are, to a broken heart). It's so amazing that she can capture all that in the few minutes of a video. I have contemplated buying myself another copy of the video because I've watched that one so many times I may wear out the tape! (sorry this is so long, but you asked!!!) ;>) - - Kim "...guess I thought I could never feel the things I feel..." ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 23:23:46 -0800 From: tarot@pon.net Subject: re: candy Doug said... > I'm not sure what FTCGH is, but I'm leaning toward > heart-flavored ear candy. ;-) maybe FTCGH is Groove Candy. ::hums bad version of "Body Movin" by Beastie Boys":: nick - -- "Everything I do is judged / I mostly get it wrong / oh well." - -- Ani Difranco AOL IM: Tarot1234 http://fly.to/nickhaswings ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 23 Jun 1999 22:21:59 PDT From: beulah girl Subject: this new song am i being stupid when i say "me and you" doesn't sound like a tori title? i'm not doubting that i'll enjoy listening to it. but doesn't it sound like... a brandy title or something? emma _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 05:40:48 GMT From: Tha Shaigirl Subject: [none] Okay, now I've got a question! I just recently downloaded WINamp and what I'd like to do is take a Tori CD that I have and make some MP3s. Can anyone help me out by sending me some detailed step-by-step directions on how I'd go about on doing this? I'd be greatful! Thanks ~Shai Ohh and please no replies from people who are just going to tell me I don't need to worry about making MP3s, because in order to burn 'em, they have to be in WAV format. Duh. I know that. I'd like to make some Tori MP3s so I can have some to "trade" when I goto ratio ftp sites! "I can be cruel I don't know why." -Tori Amos = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = - = shaigirl79@hotmail.com * AOL IM: shaigirl79 TRADES * http://glenmar.com/~mmb/booties.html _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:03:45 -0500 From: "Mr Zebra" Subject: Re: Fav. Tori Video Mine would definitely be Talula. I just love her little dancing. And when she says "Anne Boleyn" and her mouth and eyes do this cute little thing. It's so cool. And when she uses the torch to cut out of the cage, that's just so cool. And she stuffs her hands through the plastic to get to the piano. Awesome. It's got TONS of symbolism, but I just don't feel like talking about that. :-) Matthew celophane is thicker than it seems. put it on and don't ask what it means. ICQ# 298707 mrzebra@fumblers.org http://surf.to/gotsarah - got Sarah? http://www.fumblers.org/SouthSideFumblas Cult of E Membership #138 FumbleMafia FuCS/DA exfe96 a+++ Ifte lms/txus r++ ps+++ bs t-- C++ w++ p1 LF+/*** N++ cd80+ pr+ g- S* x Fa m+ b!/- fc- E rl!@+++ s! ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 01:49:21 -0400 From: Mikewhy Subject: Re: About the new material... Tha Shaigirl posted: >Okay, so after reading the article in Rolling Stone (which I recently posted >to the list for those who don't get it), I've come to a conclusion about >Tori's upcoming new 2disc CD. ......So my conclusion is this >"new material" disc isn't going to be new to most of us at all. Maybe one or >two NEW songs, but we'll probably see a lot of b-sides, like Cooling. Songs >that the general Tori public might not know. When Tori said she would not bore anybody she was refering to the songs she was going to perform during the upcoming 5 1/2 Weeks Tour. As for the new CD, one disc will indeed contain ALL BRAND NEW MATERIAL. That is a fact that several articles have stated explicitly and I was also told this information directly from Tori's management. There is no dount here whatsoever. Yours in Tori, Mikewhy - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Michael L. Whitehead mikewhy@iglou.com My Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => http://members.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html "I won't say GoodBye... only see you in the DreamTime. All of us, you, me will have adventures to share alchemy little SHAMEN in training we are never that far From Each other...interdimensional travel Until we meet again Hugs (it's a Bugs life)" Tori's End of Tour Message To The Dent - Nov 30, 1998 - ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 03:19:09 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: Me and You In a message dated 6/23/1999 11:26:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, kenny_mayer@yahoo.com writes: << How do I obtain the new song off the "Hands of Fate" soundtrack? The record stores do not have it. >> It hasn't been released yet ... the movie hasn't even been released yet. If you stay tuned to the list and check The Dent (www.tori.by.net) you will hear about it when it does come out :) kisses, joanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 03:14:55 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: tripping << In a message dated 99-06-22 23:10:26 EDT, skh1@mindspring.com writes: << tori doesn't do recreational drugs... not in the street sense. but she has said a few times that she does things like peyote or shrooms... she also has mentioned doing them inconjunction with shamanic journeys >> >> Ummm, actually I think you are wrong about this one ... what about that article in the March 1996 issue of Details magazine where she says "I'm definitely a hallucinogenic girl." What do you think that means? :) And that's only one of many references to drugs. And isn't having a shamanic journey while taking drugs doing recreational drugs anyway? It's all the same whether you are at home with a few friends or out in the desert with a shaman. She has also said that she would love to be able to smoke pot as much as she would like and as much as some of her friends do, but she can't because of her voice. And again, more recently, she mentioned that she had taken Ecstasy with a few of her girlfriends and that it was an amazing experience and that she couldn't understand how or why people take Ecstasy while at a club surrounded by strangers. I'm not sure which articles/interviews theses paraphrased quotes are from are from but they are correct, I'm not making them up ... the only reason I remembered where the first quote was from is because I have the picture from that article hanging on my wall :) kisses, joanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 03:22:48 EDT From: KNHoppe@aol.com Subject: Re: End Sessions Hey everyone! I've had quite a few requests for the End Sessions CD... I am still willing to go out and buy copies for people and ship them and everything, but here's the web addy if you want to just order a copy from the radio station... www.kndd.com - Silly me, I didn't even think of that when I first posted about the CD. For those of you who want someone in the flesh to buy it, it was $15.99 at the Wherehouse, which is the only store in the Seattle area selling the CD. Annnnddd...For those of you who were going to go through me, if you decide to order through the web, just lemme know... :) ~~Noelle~ ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 02:48:08 EDT From: Princess Shannon Subject: Re: lyrics <> ok look, its a fact. TORI TOOK DRUGS. read the quotes below for "proof" from tori herself. oh, and drugs arent all necessarily bad. it depends on what you take and why you take it. <> here are a few tori quotes about marianne. (thats what the song is called... not "tuna rubber".) maryanne curtis was a girl tori went to junior high with. she over dosed on drugs when she was 15. tori says her spirit visits her sometimes. i think she is saying the contrary, marianne is incredibly bright, too bright for this earth and thats why she died. for lots of tori quote info see j'ason's page toriphoria at: http://members.aol.com/weirdyboy/toriphoria.html theres lots of info there and you can find out a lot. ~~*~shannon. ~~*~*~*~*~ MARIANNE QUOTES: "Marianne represents the death of the girl hood." ~~ "Part of you has to die and in Marianne it's the whole Mary Magdalene reference, a young girl who i knew that died. There's the whole idea that the part of the woman that has been dormant, who's been dead. 'The quickest girl in the frying pan,' the priestesses who showed her they were one with the knowledge and the passion..... man get rid of them!" ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ DRUG QUOTES: "The first drug I took was pot. I was 12. I guess that seems young, but this was a different time. We're talking 1974-75. Led Zeppelin were kicking! It was a different time! When I was 12, I was smoking weed at a friend's house and my father came to pick me up early. And we'd smoked so much. I'm like reeking. I lied my ass off. I told him my friend and her brother had been doing stuff. But not me. Then we had to go out to dinner with someone from the local church and his son. Halfway through, the son, who was about 18, took me to one side and said, 'You are sooo stoned'. Still, I got away with it. The drug which had a big effect on me was ayahuasca. It comes from a vine in the Amazon and you ingest it. You know that stuff they take in "The Emerald Forest"? It's like that . I was hanging around with some medicine women and they suggested I try it. I was very lucid, but felt like I was walking around Fantasia, having a conversation with myself. It isn't like acid. It's more emotional, more mental. But it can grab you by the balls and just shove you up against the wall. I've been in a room with a woman who was literally trying to bite her own arm off. And this lasted for 15 hours. I wasn't scared - just scared that I'd make a fool of myself. The funny thing was, I kept laughing and laughing, rather than sitting in the corner being intense. Then every so often, I'd say, I'm in a really rough patch. And one of the medicine women would come over and reassure me that everything was going to be alright. But it would keep on getting deeper. In the end, though, it was an educational experience. I learned a lot about myself. I haven't taken it in a couple of years now. You can only really do it once in a blue moon. But the wild thing is that sometimes I only have to smell something and I'm right back there again, high as a kite. It just happens. I'm really into moderation. Too much of anything will harm you in the end. Too much sugar. Too much pasta. I'm into drugs as a teaching tool, which is why I only take hallucinogenics. I mean, it's not like I've never done cocaine, but, on the whole, if I can't see dancing elephants then I'm not interested." ~~ "My mother is an Indian, and once there was a time when mankind did respect the plants and the earth as a great vision, and when they neither abused the plants nor the earth. Today that has changed substantially. Even the Indians have started to make abuse due to their situation. If you visit a reservation today, and I have lived in one for many years, you will find many alcoholics there, which is very tragic. But many think, that this is an escape, but it makes them unable to think. It is bad to see what became of many great people. Today drugs mostly serve as an escape from reality and you are able to experience other levels of consciousness and to reach other dimensions. I took drugs in a controlled way in the past to reach other dimensions, smoked pot, while listening to Jimmy Page and hoped that my father wouldn't catch me, but I think, that this is a part of your teenage days, especially when you lived in the sixties and the beginning of the seventies. That was a completely different time, the revolution of many young people against the bourgeoise normal. An outbreak from the aims that once were given by the parents. The try to change something. Aims like humanity, the emancipation of the woman and also the equality of men, like it was shaped by Martin Luther King. And today? It seems as if these people have given up, these aims are just caricatures of themselves. The women have not reached their aim, humanity is a foreign word in today's society and hate for blacks and foreigners is stronger than ever. And then you see the abuse of extasy in London and recognize that this generation has not grasped the whole conflict. What sense does it make to load yourself with drugs so much that you are not noticing anything anymore?" ~~ "I find it [the truth] especially when I'm in an altered state. Music can put me in an altered state. So can hallucinogens. I have used hallucinogens and I do sometimes still use them to journey to another space." She peers at me to see if I'll understand. "I don't use them to escape, but as a tool. And they have been helpful, but only because I have been working with people who have been in the Amazon and learned how to have visionquest. It's the idea of going into your psyche and knowing it more deeply. It's a complete wealth of information in there." ~~ "Um, (pause) the most influential journeys I have had have been with Euyaschusca (sp), the vine from the Amazon, the combination of that and mushrooms. It's very much a medicine woman, medicine man's journey drug, where you go inside. It's not a social thing. It's an internal experience. I experiment with things that are usually an internal experience, because that's just what excites me. And yes, it does sometimes give me visions. But my intention when I am doing it is very different than recreational. I don't do it recreationally. I do it to go do inner work, and I'm very clear before I do it what I'm searching for. That way, there's no abuse suffered and I don't rely on it. It's just one more tool that I use sometimes." ~~ ""Auywasca" is a vine in Brazil in the Amazon - I've had it freezed dried a few times-but the point is that it gives the medicine men vision down there, and I'd like to think that my concerts are like a journey you get from Auywasca; that you go through an emotional journey." ~~ "My problem with hallucinogens is that I want to take a booster. The problem with the booster is the speed aspect gets accentuated, not the good weirdy stuff. With Ecstasy it's like, oh no, I got that bit of it. I've taken it but not on the dancefloor, much more with a group of people. I've done it with a few women friends I think you can talk about things maybe you couldn't always talk about. 'I've been keeping this secret for six months but I gotta tell you now!'" ~~*~*~*~ "I'm not interested in being a really nice person; I want to be a creative, responsible person that's balanced." --Tori Amos "I want somebody to care for me passionately with every thought and with every breath and when I'm asleep I want somebody who will put their arms around me and kiss me tenderly." --Depeche Mode "Somebody" _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:55:56 EDT From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: (Tori-boot) making mountians out of mudpies In a message dated 99-06-24 01:20:08 EDT, blackdove82@hotmail.com writes: << I have the Making Mountains out of Mudpies bootleg, and it is not all live stuff. Here is what is on it 1. Spark-televison performance 2. spark 3. cruel both of these were performed on later with jools holland 4. purple people (this is not really purple people) 5. have yourself a maerry little chirstmas 6. bachelorette 7. do it again 8. cooling the last tracks were all performed at Glastonbury 1998 9. precious things 10. cornflake girl 11. raspberry swirl 12. god 13. crucify 14. cruel 15. tear in your hand >> Okay, for those of you who were wondering about how to get the kindasorta remix version of Raspberry Swirl/Professional Widow. She performed RS at the Glastonbury Festival, and then at the bridge, she cut into the remix version of Professional Widow (uh, honey bring close to my lips yeah...(and)...It's gotta be big, uh). So if you want it, here it is. ~* jo§h ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:22:22 +0200 From: sknauf@ibm.net Subject: Re: About the new material... At 06:21 23/06/99 GMT, Shaigirl wrote: >material. But if you notice in RS, it says "don't expect a ton of fresh >material", she said "I'm not going to bore anybody". Yeah, right Tori, like >you could possibly bore ANY of us with your music! So my conclusion is this >"new material" disc isn't going to be new to most of us at all. Actually, I'm pretty sure it's going to be new material. I mean, she was supposedly in the studio working on new stuff and had written a bunch of new songs. I think Tori was referring to the fact that fans shouldn't expect a ton of fresh material *on tour*... meaning she won't be playing those new songs live, since she doesn't want to bore anyone with songs they've never heard of. I admit that RS put that quote in a weird context, but if you continue reading the article, Tori says her setlists still vary a lot and continues talking about her live show, so I'm pretty sure she's talking about her tour material and not her studio recordings. sabrina ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 00:17:28 EDT From: Beulahsd@aol.com Subject: Re: Fav. Tori Video my favorite video..that's a hard one...my first thought was Raspberry Swirl, then Crucify, but i have to agree with terry, cals just....amazes me, i love it, the chair is my favorite part, w/ the 3 toris...so yeah its definately, cals :) peace and tori love, sarah ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:32:07 -0700 (PDT) From: Daisy Dead Petals Subject: Re: Fav. Tori Video Hee hee, I love this question, because a friend of mine and I were just talking about this last weekend. And I would definitely have to say Raspberry Swirl. It's just so darn cool, with the whole Alice in Wonderland thing and that freaky guy who just stands around and looks real wierd. Great video. There's just something about it... In dreams, Erin === look i'm standing naked before you don't you want more than my sex i can scream as loud as your last one but i can't claim innocence ta _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:15:38 -0700 From: skh Subject: Re: lyrics pan wrote: > ok well, my question is this..what do you think the lyrics: "quickest > girl in the frying pan " means, i think she means, all women are in the frying pan, which is a classic metaphor for trouble, but marrianne happens to be the fastest one in it... that is, she's way ahead of the others in some regard... > ...also, i wonder about "i am not a helicopter, Im not a cop out > either" tori loves a good word play, and sometimes, that's all these alliterative/onomatopoeia-esque references are... but it could be that she's aying wha tyou cited. there are so many layers to her writing... dream well ~~kelley ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 11:05:45 EDT From: PeaCeGrLy2@aol.com Subject: Possible Tori on TV?? Hi, I usually don't post very often, and sometimes i dont get a chance to read all the posts, so if someone already said this I'm really sorry. I woke up today just in time to catch the previews of the news, and it said rock stars, hearthrobs, etc...well anyway, at 11 tonight they are doing a thing on summer concerts, and obviously tori and alanis touring would be something to talk about, so there is a good chance they will be on it. They said this is going to be on after ER...whatever channel that is (i know, i know, i should know these things, but i don't watch tv very much at all, my parents had left it on when they left). I saw something on the tv the other day, too...they were talking about MP3.com and they showed teh Tori and Alanis site. Nothing too important, but hey it's tori right? *erica ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:55:11 GMT From: Tom xxxxx Subject: why turn off at pele Hi all, I'm jumping into this discussion late. Sorry. I've been bad about checking my hotmail. BfP is, in my opinion, the most difficult of Tori's CD's to get into. It's dark, angry, and confusing---all of which make me like all the more. Tori's processing some heavy stuff on this album. I totally related and BfP was released at the perfect time. I got it just prior to me leaving my abusive boyfriend. In the months afterward, as I sorted through the wreckage of that life (which needed to be wrecked and rebuilt), lines like "I shaved every place where you've been," "I'm happy for you and I'm sure that I hate you," "can't forget the things you never said," and "he's still so pretty when he's putting the damage on" got me through the day. I listened to a lot of stuff, but BfP was my primary support. Although, since then, some of Tori's other albums have eclipse BfP, it still has a special power for me. I love LE the best, but BfP and FTCGH vie for second place. My only complaint about the Tori show I was fortunate enough to see last year was that she didn't play any songs off of Pele. Oh, well, maybe this August I'll get to hear "Doughnut" or "Horses" live. Ok, babbling. be well, Tom _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:32:20 +0100 From: "E.L Walker" Subject: Survey Results! Me noticed that people either seem to like best Boys For Pele and Under The Pink, ...or Little Earthquakes and From The Choirgirl Hotel, I'm the latter, I think the first group of people prefer a more solo Tori with her piano, and the rest dig Tori with a beat and a band!. snogs, Squidgy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:32:20 +0100 From: "E.L Walker" Subject: Survey Results! Me noticed that people either seem to like best Boys For Pele and Under The Pink, ...or Little Earthquakes and From The Choirgirl Hotel, I'm the latter, I think the first group of people prefer a more solo Tori with her piano, and the rest dig Tori with a beat and a band!. snogs, Squidgy ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:04:43 EDT From: Cutiepant6@aol.com Subject: Re: About the new material... when she said, "don't expect a ton of new material" i think she meant live, on the tour, like she didn't want to bore us with stuff that we hadn't heard before. i am under the impression that the new album will not be b-sides that we know. kelly ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 09:48:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Daisy Dead Petals Subject: Re: tripping (or Re: Magical Blend) Actually all, if you're lucky, you can find Magical Blend mag in Tower Records, at least if you live in a fairly large city. I was in my local Tower on Newbury St. in Boston one day in January this past year, and of course, my eagle eyes spotted that Tori pic looking right at me. So if you pay close attention, you can find it...although, it is sort of expensive to buy at the newsstand. In dreams, Erin === look i'm standing naked before you don't you want more than my sex i can scream as loud as your last one but i can't claim innocence ta _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 10:51:15 -0700 From: skh Subject: Re: Anastasia by DNA testing, she was not anastasia. but if you believe in the transmigration of souls... it is still quite possible... ;) ~~kelley "C.F." wrote: > .... I would love to believe that Anna Anderson really was > Anastasia. When I read the facts, I really tend to go in that > direction....who knows.... ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 13:36:54 EDT From: JewlyaINAP@aol.com Subject: Spivak and questions you would ask tori In a message dated 6/23/99 11:19:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, knoxtorifan@yahoo.com writes: << Well, if anyone knows the email address for Spivak, >> If anyone has it, or contact info at all, cause i cant find my cd booklets:( please email me. I am hoping to score an interview with Tori, and if i do, i will warn all online EWF's and Toriphiles, and ask them to submit their questions:) The interview if granted will be in It's Not A Phase. Hell, send your questions anyways, I'll publish them in an article (with your name if you want) named, "I want to ask Tori" or something;), because even if I do not get ahold of her, I am giving her a copy if I EVER get to meet her at the meet and greets. (Please goddess still have meet and greets at 5.5 weeks;) Love in Tori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 18:08:15 GMT From: Tha Shaigirl Subject: InfoBeat Article... I dunno if someone already mentioned this or not, but I thought it was stellar! Check it out! The Latest on Tori Amos Amos, Morrisette tour tops weekend ticket sales (livedaily.com) - The much talked about touring pair of Alanis Morrisette and Tori Amos looks like it will be quite a hot ticket this summer - that is if this weekend's sales are any sign. Onsale dates for performances in Detroit, Chicago, Minneapolis, New Jersey, Long Island, Tampa, Atlanta, and Charlotte all sold extremely well. The tickets have already been available online for a month. This is the first chance for fans to purchase tickets by traditional means. For more, click here. I clicked there for more info, but it was a dead URL. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 24 Jun 1999 15:25:04 EDT From: Kristen xxxx Subject: Wing Hi Kelley, The lyric is "Wing" not "wink" . In the Bee-Sides piano book it has the lyrics for Sister Janet and it reads as so. "A wink" almost seems to me like just as interesting a line. As in winking to someone to hide a sinister secret. But it is "wing", just to let you know. :) ~~Kristen On Wed, 23 Jun 1999 08:16:57 -0700 skh writes: > > > >KAPS72@aol.com wrote: > >> "...and all of those up there >> are making it look so easy >> with their perfect wings >> a wing can cover all sorts of things...." >> - Sister Janet > >i thought the lyric was "winks"... and... a wink can cover all sorts >of >things... ie, winking because it really isn't easy at all... > >~~kelley ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! 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