From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #172 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, June 12 1999 Volume 04 : Number 172 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? [KAPS72@aol.com] tori quote-help! [Faeries44@aol.com] Re: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? [XXXPandora@aol.com] Re: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? ["Mr Zebra" ] Re: Pigs [Ken Tough ] Re: dye your own easter eggs! (its a joke) [Ken Tough ] Re: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? ["Carrie B." ] New Double CD Set and Tour News [Michaela Blanchard ] Re: sister janet and honey ["Megasus©" ] Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) [H P ] Re: spelling/horses [carmen riojas ] Re: ["Megasus©" ] dent photo of the week faked?? [Ruby Priestess ] The rabbit theory. [Cindy2Love@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:03:05 EDT From: KAPS72@aol.com Subject: Re: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? In a message dated 6/10/99 10:51:17 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ISpaceDogI@aol.com writes: << Does anyone know who's opening on Tori's 5 1/2 Week Tour? I'm dying to know. Thanks. >> I read somewhere that local groups from each town will be opening. I can't remember where I saw that. - -Kim ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 03:57:17 EDT From: Faeries44@aol.com Subject: tori quote-help! the following quote came by way of the "tori amos quote of the day!": "He doesn't give a fuck about you; he may have cared about some parts of you, but this is not about you. He doesn't want this to work out with you. Your neediness is disgusting him." - -Tori Amos where did the qoute come from? what does it mean? if anyone, who is tori talking about? thanks! jaime ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:50:29 EDT From: XXXPandora@aol.com Subject: Re: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? In a message dated 6/10/1999 10:51:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, ISpaceDogI@aol.com writes: << Does anyone know who's opening on Tori's 5 1/2 Week Tour? I'm dying to know. >> there will be a different opening act for each show chosen from a large list of mp3.com artists ... I assume you can see these listed on mp3.com (I'll go check now and if I find anything I'll let you know). Supposedly Tori and Alanis will pick the opening acts for each city - so it should be interesting :) kisses, joanne ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 23:05:39 -0500 From: "Mr Zebra" Subject: Re: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? > Does anyone know who's opening on Tori's 5 1/2 Week Tour? I'm dying to > know. Thanks. Um. Hmph. My guess would be either Tori or Alanis. :-\ What's wrong with you? Matthew express yourself. don't repress yourself. ICQ# 298707 mrzebra@fumblers.org http://surf.to/gotsarah - got Sarah? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:36:22 +0100 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: Pigs Apparently *ShaDy FeLiNE* wrote: > In the Oddyssey by Homer, Oddysseus and his men travel to an island.. >THAT, ladies and gentlemen, is quite >obviously the theme for the pigs part in the Raspberry Swirl video... Tori >and the little boy don't eat, if you'll notice, because if they did they >would be turned into pigs too! I brought in the mythology, bring on the >criticism.. Excellent! Well spotted, Amy. That could very well be the inspiration behind it.. Tori is very big on mythology. (Even Alice's pigs prob. have their root in Odysseus.) Give that girl a massive cookie. - -- Ken Tough ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:32:31 +0100 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: dye your own easter eggs! (its a joke) Apparently Eisenberg wrote: >> >Ken Tough wrote: >> >> I'll die my own Easter eggs >> >> A questionable one, (should be dye), but Easter is all about >> >> dying (i.e as in die) and resurrection, and baby (or her egg) >> >> is still in its comatose state, will it die? >this is definitely over analyzing tori's lyrics. IN MY OPINION. if you >find meaning in it then i am jealous of you, but i just don't. i think >it is pure imagery and symbolism that only have true significance to >tori. just my opinion. but oh well So are you saying it's a spelling mistake? (Which it may well be, but the pun between die & dye is hard to pass up). Either it's just a mistake or it's deliberate, in which case it has a sliver of meaning, even if it's a simple joke. Not that it matters much, but it adds a bit of richness. But yeah, it is definitely over analyzing; just poking turning over rocks looking for more interesting tidbits.. - -- Ken Tough ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:57:49 EDT From: Freque79@aol.com Subject: Re: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? In a message dated 6/10/99 9:51:18 PM Central Daylight Time, ISpaceDogI@aol.com writes: > Does anyone know who's opening on Tori's 5 1/2 Week Tour? I'm dying to > know. Thanks. I don't think anyone knows that answer to this question yet. All that anyone knows is that there will probably be different bands/artists at each show, and that they will all be chosen from bands/artists at mp3.com. That is to say, they will probably all be relatively unknown bands. Mairie http://members.xoom.com/pianoqueen/ Ode to the Piano Queen ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:10:20 GMT From: Wake UpNeo Subject: huh ? Jodi said: " > >> A questionable one, (should be dye), but Easter is all about > >> dying (i.e as in die) and resurrection, and baby (or her egg) > >> is still in its comatose state, will it die? > I think i'd have to agree with that guy from the anti-tori amos website here.... this is definitely over analyzing tori's lyrics.  IN MY OPINION.  if you find meaning in it then i am jealous of you, but i just don't.  i think it is pure imagery and symbolism that only have true significance to tori.  just my opinion.  but oh well " Nothing personal; all opinions are valid; just a question. Since when does imagery and symbolism have meaning only for one person ? K. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 22:54:07 -0400 (EDT) From: "Carrie B." Subject: Re: Who's opening for Tori & Alanis? My impression was that Tori is opening for Alanis. Is this not correct? On Thu, 10 Jun 1999 ISpaceDogI@aol.com wrote: > > Does anyone know who's opening on Tori's 5 1/2 Week Tour? I'm dying to > know. Thanks. > : `. ; .' `. .-'''-. .' ;' __ _;' Carrie E. Batcheller / '_ _`\ 165 A Pleasant St. | _( a ( a | Melrose MA 02176 '''''| (_) > |`````` \ \ / / http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/9523 `. `--'.' .' `-,,,-' `. .' : `. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 11:15:43 GMT From: kelly matton Subject: love her madly..... i agree very much with riley. i mean yeah sure some of tori songs are great to analyze but we have to draw a line somewhere in the sand and realize that not every single sentence or even song for that matter has a meaning. tori herself has even said that they don't and people shouldn't be fussing over them because she just wrote them because they sounded good. me well i've got a lot of pent up anger for this whole alanis/tori tour. i grew up in ottawa where alanis did, she was friends with my step cousin and was such a nasty bitch, sorry about that. i know people change and i don't hold it against her but i really can't stand her music and i wish tori would just tour by herself, without alanis. why is it that all these amazing people tour with alanis? veda hille did, liz phair etc. sorry for all those people who like alanis, i just had to say something because its been festering inside forever. kelly ************************************************ Awake Shake dreams from you hair My pretty child, my sweet one Choose the day and choose the sign of your day The day's divinity First thing you see ~Jim Morrison ************************************************ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 09:21:39 PDT From: Michaela Blanchard Subject: New Double CD Set and Tour News I got this from the Atlantic Mailing list this morning! ~~michaela~ - --------------------------------------------- *TORI AND ALANIS SHARE DOUBLE BILL FOR THIS SUMMER'S "5 1/2 WEEKS TOUR* Tori Amos will be joining Alanis Morissette for what may prove to be the show to see this summer! The "5 1/2 Weeks Tour" will take the acclaimed singer/songwriters from Ft. Lauderdale to Los Angeles in -- you guessed it -- 5 1/2 weeks. See complete listing of dates below, and get those sleeping bags ready, you're gonna wanna get in line for these tickets as soon as possible! Meanwhile, Atlantic is preparing for the autumn release of a new two-CD set from Tori -- including one live CD recorded during the '98 tour and one CD of new studio material. 8/18 Ft. Lauderdale, Fla., NCR Arena 8/20 Orlando, Fla., Orlando Arena 8/21 Atlanta, Lakewood Amphitheater 8/22 Nashville, Starwood Amphitheater 8/24 Charlotte, N.C., Blockbuster 8/25 Washington, D.C., Merriweather Post Amphitheater 8/27 Camden, N.J., E Center Amphitheater 8/28 Holmdel, N.J., PNC Bank Arts Center 8/29 BA 8/31 Boston, Tweeter Center 9/1 New York, Jones Beach 9/3 Buffalo, N.Y., Darien Lake Amphitheater 9/4 Columbus, Ohio, Polaris Amphitheater 9/5 Indianapolis, Dear Creek Amphitheater 9/7 Toronto , Molson Amphitheater 9/10 Pittsburgh, Starlake Amphitheater 9/11 Chicago, World Amphitheater 9/12 Detroit , Pine Knob Amphitheater 9/14 Cincinnati, Riverbend Amphitheater 9/15 Milwaukee, Marcus Amphitheater 9/16 Minneapolis,Target Center 9/19 Concord, Calif., Pavilion 9/20 Bakersfield, Calif., Centennial Gardens 9/22 Phoenix, America West Arena 9/24 Las Vegas, Nev. , Mandalay Bay 9/25 Los Angeles, Irvine Amphitheater http://www.atlantic-records.com/tori_amos http://www.tori.com _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 14:42:04 EDT From: RHPSshock@aol.com Subject: Re: pigs and RS In a message dated 6/10/99 10:52:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, blackdove82@hotmail.com writes: << The only thing that confuses me is the man in the video, does anyone have any ideas has to the importance or the role of the man that is in the dance room scenes? >> I always looked at him as sort of the Cheshire Cat. Disapearing....reapearing....that scary grin on his face...he sort of tied everything together in a way...just like the cat in Alice. -Angelina. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 20:05:28 EDT From: RsbrySwrrl@aol.com Subject: Re: (Tori-boot) Viginia Stores There is also a store on Broad St. closer in to the city called Record Exchange that carries numerous boots. And btw, the guy at soundhole would really prefer if people didn't advertise that he sells "imports". He's kinda funny like that. But Record Exchange is a good one. I'm sure its in the White Pages to find the number and ask for directions. If you happen to know where the Richmond Ballet is, its in the next block closer to downtown. Hope that helps! The Banana Princess, Heather ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 16:26:11 -0400 From: becky Subject: Re: peggy got a message for me.... > >Or she could mean that boys think they're Jesus . . . those Christian boys . . . so you can make me cum that doesn't make you Jesus . . . > >Remember? > >> >> Or maybe the boy's name was actually Jesus? As I understand it, it's >> not exactly rare. >> >> Just my .02 :) >> >> -Miko >> >> > ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:35:21 -0700 From: "Megasus©" Subject: Re: sister janet and honey Eisenberg wrote: > i'm too lazy to look, but honey is (and possibly sister janet although > i'm not sure) in the bee sides sheet music book. honey is not that hard > to play, but if you thought winter was challenging then you might thing > honey is too. tori is hard because of her intricate rhythms and > demented key signatures. but you gotta love her right? well bye peeps Well, I think any music is challenging, because I had piano lessons when I was 7 years old.. and they lasted less than a year.. so I'm not really all that good... :) I like to doodle around a bit with the keyboard, but I really don't think i'm 'meant' to play piano... I think I'd rather listen and sing along, than play along anyway.. - -- ^_~Megasus~_^ http://members.xoom.com/Megasus/ ICQ# 14241089 *~The Divine Princess of the Church of Daughter-chan!~* *~List Admin of the Xelloss-Lovers ML!~* "I've been raisin' up my hands, drive another nail in.. got enough guilt to start my own religion.." -Tori Amos "Just when you escape, you have yourself to fear.." -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 10:53:04 PDT From: H P Subject: Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) I think it actually was tori who picked the words out the were CAPITALIZED in LE, i could be wrong though. I'm pretty sure I remember reading an interview and someone asked her why some words were capitalized in LE..and she said she just picked them over the phone..the ones that she thought would look pretty capitalized. just my $.02, Holly >From: Ken Tough >Reply-To: Ken Tough >To: precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) >Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 09:50:50 +0100 > >Apparently Amy M Belden wrote: > > >Ken Tough wrote: > >>I think it's possible to go a bit far in the very literal study > >>of her lyrics, since I don't think Tori is always 100% responsible > >>for the spelling/layout/writing down of her lyrics. (I can't say > >>anything about that for certain, but for example the UPPERCASE words > >>in Little Earthquakes aren't ANYTHING special, but just words picked > >>out by her layout artist.) Some strangities are probably just errors. > > >I was singling out the CAPITALIZED words in the Little Earthquakes > >booklet, and I think there are some correlations between them. For > >example: (please note: these are only my opinions, not necessarily >Tori's > >intentions) > >Interesting view on the relations between the words, Amy. It was >wrong for me to write those WORDS aren't anything SPECIAL. I only >meant that it (apparently) wasn't Tori who chose the words to >emphasise, but someone else. As you point out, that other person >may have had reasons other than aesthetics for choosing the >words to emphasise. > >-- >Ken Tough _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:05:12 PDT From: carmen riojas Subject: Re: spelling/horses > Not the Red Baron > > Not Judy G > Not Jean Jean with a hallowed > heart > I see that screen go > down in the flames > with every step with every beautiful heel > pointed > >The "hallowed" is pronounced "Harlow-ed", referring to >Jean Harlow, the actress who was a strong woman and had a bit >of a tragic life. > i think "hallowed" sounds more like "hollowed" and heart sounds kinda hand, the way she sings it. that sultry southern way of singing lends itself to double entendre. _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 12:05:07 -0700 From: "Megasus©" Subject: Re: Thomas Kjær Lauritsen wrote: > Amy M Belden wrote about the uppercase letters in > the Little Earthquakes bootlet. The following is copied from > http://www.rmta.org/rmt-a/torifaq.html#VI : > > (Q) What is with the capitalized words in the LE lyrics booklet? > (A) From an interview with Cindy Palmano, art director for LE: > RDT : What about the capital letters? > Cindy: Oh, I just picked out the ones I thought would look good in > capital letters. (laughs) In fact, we did it over the telephone. I asked > Tori to sing it so that it if somebody was trying to follow it, it would > help them relate. Then I'm afraid I moved it around a bit, according to > where it came typographically. Where there was an emphasis on the word, or a > word that you really heard... it really does work. LOL.. thank you.. I was going to dig that up, but didn't have time because I was busy with the end of school. I think that's probably the main, if not the ONLY reason the words were like that in the lyric book... I mean.. there could also be some other meaning behind them that we didn't get from that lil tidbit.. like maybe Tori helped by saying "There's more emphasis on this word.... it means something special" ... dunno.. but it sounds like those words were just made in caps because they were emphasized more in the song itself... which.. could actually mean they have special meaning, too.. hmmm - -- ^_~Megasus~_^ http://members.xoom.com/Megasus/ ICQ# 14241089 *~The Divine Princess of the Church of Daughter-chan!~* *~List Admin of the Xelloss-Lovers ML!~* "I've been raisin' up my hands, drive another nail in.. got enough guilt to start my own religion.." -Tori Amos "Just when you escape, you have yourself to fear.." -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:13:06 PDT From: Ruby Priestess Subject: dent photo of the week faked?? hello all. i was chatting with a fellow toriphile online (not on the list) and she had an interesting point. have you ever actually looked at the pic closely? it looks like a forgery. look at it compared to the rolling stone pics. tori's hair color is different, her eyes and lips are very pixely, and overall looks airbrushed (check out the hands). if you want to see the pic, go to tori.by.net and it is at the bottom of the opening page... or then again, maybe i am just seeing things. any thoughts? agree? disagree? thanks lanna _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 15:29:23 -0400 From: "Susan Stewart" Subject: Re: PIGGY got a message for me.... People, I hope you all know it's NOT Peggy, it's Piggy. ~~*hugs*~ it's a Bug's Life, Susan "I believe in peace BITCH" - Tori Amos "Yeah, man. It's time to let de people get good herbs and smoke. Government's a joke. All dey wan' is ya smoke cigarettes and cigar. Some cigar wickeder den herb. Yeah, man, ya can't smoke cigar. Smoke herb. Some big cigar me see man wit', God bless! Me tell him must smoke herb." - Bob Marley http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Palace/2017/TheNoTORIousTori.html - ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Thursday, June 10, 1999 8:54 PM Subject: Re: peggy got a message for me.... > > In a message dated 6/9/99 7:17:20 PM Eastern Daylight Time, > Freedom110@aol.com writes: > > << I have sort of a good voice, but I can't reach certain > high notes, and I get SO frustrated, that I end up squeeling as loud as I > can > because I want it to be at that octive. And I always think... ''No, I can't > be a singer, I wasen't born with it, you can't make something that isin't > there" >> > > Gus, > > Don't give up on yourself. You sound like you really want to be a singer, > especially if it's the first thing you think about when you wake up. You've > got to keep pursuing your dreams. You will never feel complete otherwise. > When I was in middle and high school I played the violin with the school > orchestra's. I even joined a few extra string groups. Then I suddenly > dropped out when I was a sophomore. I don't quite know why I did. And now > I'm married with child and, still years later, think about playing my violin > everyday. I've tried taking lessons but due to lack of space, time and $, I > cannot at the moment. It's an incredible void which I intend to fill, > especially now that my little one is growing. Don't, don't give up! > > :>) > > -Kim > > "...she was a January Girl > she never let on how insane it was..." > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:05:10 EDT From: JupiterCMS@aol.com Subject: If anyone cares....place to buy Tori stuff Bleeker Street Music in New York City is a very kewl place to buy Tori boots, I bought DDI Boulder 2 CD set there last weekend, and last year I bought YKTR there (not the real thing, but the boot that looks exactly like the real thing) ! Everytime I've been there they have had 15-20 Tori boots and they are alll very very kewl ! I wish I could afford them all. Also last time I was in there they had some box set for $100. Here is the info for the store: Bleeker Street Music Inc. 239 Bleeker St. New York, NY 10014 Phone- (212) 255- 7899 ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 17:44:51 PDT From: Lauren DePhillips Subject: jesus?? >>Or maybe the boy's name was actually Jesus? As I understand it, it's >>not exactly rare. Just my .02 :) -Miko I read the article and although I can't remember exactly what the name was I know it was mentioned and I am sure I would remember if it was something like 'jesus'. Actually it was a much more common name like Tom or Joe or I don't think these were it either. I kind of relate to the line from PT "So you can make me come it doesn't make you jesus." I think that at some point she cared so much about what this boy said about her that it was like jesus to her. But later on she releases this, and destroys the power that they hold over her.... _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 11 Jun 1999 21:49:55 EDT From: Cindy2Love@aol.com Subject: The rabbit theory. Okay first I just want to apologize if anyone already mentioned this. I'm trying to sort through all my mail and I might have missed it. Umm I've read When Rabbit Howls and I completely respect that connection some people might feel that the song has to that book, but I just don't see it. Does anyone think that "Rabbit where'd you put the keys girl" might have to do with Alice in Wonderland? Now my bestfriend is completely obsessed with that story and anything Alice and she's positive those lines in "Cornflake Girl" and Alice are connected. I'm familiar with the story, but I haven't seen it in a while. and my bestfriend is in Seattle right now so I'd ask her, but I can't. Isn't there a scene where Alice drops the keys in her own tears and she's trying to follow that little rabbit who is late for something and she can't make it through the door. Okay sorry if I totally butchered the story.... Can anyone help me out? Here's a little Tori quote talking about Alice in Wonderland. TORI AMOS: FINDING HER OWN FIRE By Lydia Carole DeFretos Published in: Aquarian Weekly #32, 21 February 1996 LD: Tell me the significance of the pig in the album artwork. TA: Alice In Wonderland - by the, whatever became of the baby. I'm a big Alice in Wonderland believer. That story has affected me almost more than all of the "children's stories". So anyway just wanted to throw that out there :-) I'm enjoying reading your thoughts on those lines. Thanks 4 your time. *Cindy* ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #172 *************************************