From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #169 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, June 9 1999 Volume 04 : Number 169 Today's Subjects: ----------------- More questions... [KAPS72@aol.com] Re: Fw: Pigs, Flutterby, and Horses (was Re: Pigs) [KAPS72@aol.com] Re: sister janet sheet music [Kristen M F ] Re: spelling/horses, and a little something else... [GonaTwinkl@aol.com] Re: peggy got a message for me.... [Freedom110@aol.com] Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) [Amy M Belden ] Does your site qualify for a stringbean award? [RedSpark18@aol.com] Re: AOL Tori chat: [skh ] Duessa Abayan... [Tha Shaigirl ] Re: spelling/horses [Ken Tough ] My bouncy post... 'scuse the double-quotemarks please... [Wake UpNeo ] Re: pigs and men ["squidgy" ] Not like anyone cares but Tori is mentioned at the end [JupiterCMS@aol.co] "Imperfect" CD for grabs [Tha Shaigirl ] Blue Skies Remixes [Debbie ] Thought it was a good solution, hanging with the raisin girls [forsythia_] Re: peggy got a message for me.... [Lauren DePhillips From what I understand, "Horses" is about her childhood. On the Tori Amos Lyrics Database there are quotes from various articles describing the songs next to each listing of lyrics: "The record begins with the horses from Winter coming back to take me on this journey and we ride and go find the demons." From "It's as if the horses have come to take us back, to descend, to find the dark side. By dark I mean what's hidden, not necessarily satanic." From There is more. Unfortunately, the sources were cut off from these. But the words from Tori herself are very interesting and enlightening. http://www.powerup.com.au/~evos/dan/tori/bfp.html#beauty_queen_horses :>) - -Kim "...girls you've got to know when it's time to turn the page..." ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 08 Jun 1999 23:48:21 EDT From: Kristen M F Subject: Re: sister janet sheet music Megan and Lauren, I'm not sure if you're aware of this but there is a Tori Amos sheet music book called "The Bee Sides". You can order it at www.amazon.com and through many other bookstores as well. It contains both the sheet music for Honey and Sister Janet. It's a good book and has got beautiful drawings in it. However, it only contains sheet music for Tori's b-sides through the LE and UtP era. So Purple People unfortuantely would not be in there. I hope Tori puts out another bee-sides book for the Choirgirl and BfP b-sides. I try to ear play but I'm just not that good. Hope that helps. ~~Kristen On Tue, 08 Jun 1999 13:58:08 -0700 "Megasusİ" writes: > > > >Lauren DePhillips wrote: > >> Does anyone know where I can find the sheet music for sister janet >on line?? >> If so you can email me personally. I will appreciate it more than >you know. > >Oh God.. I would LOVE that as well... that and Honey... and Purple >People... >lots of b-sides I'd like to have music of. I know of a place with lots >of music, >but none of those to my knowledge.. so if anybody finds a good place >with those, >I'd like to know as well. It would probably take me 5 years to study >the music >and figure out how to play it, but I'd be willing to put in the >dedication, >darnit. :) How many of ya'll play the piano? I tried to take lessons >before but >we could only afford it for about 6-8 months.. so.. I can read and >play >one-handed music, but when it comes to chords and two hands, I have to >study >ALOT.. :) Anywhoo..info on that music would be kewl. > >-Meg, who could play the first few notes in "Winter" after about 10 >minutes of >studying.. :D > >"It's kinda funny, the things we think in times like these..." -Tori >Amos (MaaG) > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:50:34 EDT From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: spelling/horses, and a little something else... In a message dated 99-06-08 23:18:10 EDT, echoes@atlantic.devin.com writes: << It depends highly on whether she's talking about Christian Easter or not. The holiday, in essence, is a fertility holiday, and hence is not about death, but life. But if you only go as far as the Christian perspective, then it is about death. (well, ok, to be fair, the pagan holiday is about rebirth into life and fetility, but even so, the egg itself would *never* represent death!) >> Actually, just to fix a little something, the Christian Easter IS about rebirth, or the resurrection of christ. The actual celebration day of Easter is the day that the women (Mary Magdalene, and the other woman...I forget..elizabeth ? ::shrug::) went to the tomb, saw the angels who told them that christ was reborn and had ascended to heaven to sit at the right hand of godthefatheralmighty...yadda, yadda. you get the idea. The day of his death, good friday (good? hrmmm...christians have it a little backwards) is the only day of "death" celebration, or maybe mourning. As far as the heating debate (which is not at ALL what I intended it to be) about the tori chatrooms, even though it's not my place entirely, I have to apologize on their behalf. I understand the outcries, but you can't base everyone on what you've seen. I try my hardest to defend "newbies" (I hate that word) when I'm in tori chat, and talk to them, but they usually end up leaving. Chances have to be taken on both sides. spend a little bit of time, get to know the people...instead of being revolted (which in some instances, I know it's hard not to be) just kind of let it slide. I dunno...let there be peace...lol...see you in tori chat ~* jo§h ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:35:09 EDT From: Freedom110@aol.com Subject: Re: peggy got a message for me.... In a message dated 99-06-08 23:17:53 EDT, lauren15@hotmail.com writes: >Here's a pretty random tidbit...I just thought that someone else might enjoy >since I did. I came across an interview online..the reporter asks tori when >she realized that she a had a good voice and she answered not til recently >(I think the interview took place right before BFP came out or around that >time..). She said that the piano was always something that came naturally >but at first her voice was something that had to work really hard to >develop. When she was in school (I think it was either elementery or >junior) the choir teacher would have her play the piano but didn't want her >to sing. One day a boy in her class passed a note about her voice to >another girl in the class, Peggy (Peggy got a message for me???). This is so interesting because if this is what she meant in the song, then technically that boy that passed the note is Jesus (Not in a literal sense, but who knows?!) (''Peggy got a message for me, from Jesus'') And that she knows everything that she has said... Is it just me or is Tori one deep woman? Can NSync or Backstreet give you something like this? So what she's trying to say is that, Jesus knew her voice wasen't good back then, or did he say that to purposly make her work at it. Or just to ridicule her? Guys.. help! Am I over-analizing this? >Anyhow >the teacher incepted the note and read it outloud in front of the class...it >said >"Ellen sings like a frog!" She might of been a progidy but her voice was >not always as inspiring as it is today...Meaning if you want to get better >at something you have to work at it. At least that is how it struck me when >I read about this. That's it for now..... This post inspired me. I have sort of a good voice, but I can't reach certain high notes, and I get SO frustrated, that I end up squeeling as loud as I can because I want it to be at that octive. And I always think... ''No, I can't be a singer, I wasen't born with it, you can't make something that isin't there" So.. this made me feel better. I've been to a voice teacher, but it was getting pricey, so I stopped. I'm considering it again. Any suggestions, and advice from people who sing, or want to would be really great. I just... well, the first thing I think of when I wake up is me singing, and performing, and I always picture my own music video... always thinking ''When I do it one day eventually, it's gonna be so good, but can I.. '' My dream I must attain. - -Gus ...Do it again ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 21:24:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy M Belden Subject: Re: Tori's Spelling (hehe) Ken, I really liked all of your Tori Spelling puns and such. Those were really interesting to read. However, I'm not quite sure I agree with this statement. Ken wrote: >I think it's possible to go a bit far in the very literal study >of her lyrics, since I don't think Tori is always 100% responsible >for the spelling/layout/writing down of her lyrics. (I can't say >anything about that for certain, but for example the UPPERCASE words >in Little Earthquakes aren't ANYTHING special, but just words picked >out by her layout artist.) Some strangities are probably just errors. I was singling out the CAPITALIZED words in the Little Earthquakes booklet, and I think there are some correlations between them. For example: (please note: these are only my opinions, not necessarily Tori's intentions) - --->CRUCIFY: *capitalized words: COURAGE, GOD, HEART, LOVE, GUILT, CRY *Crucify, hence the name, has a strong message about religion. Christianity is a religion with a lot of GUILT. You sin, you have a guilty concience - that is kind of the mindset it promotes. Tori's battle with religion was one which took COURAGE because of her family's stance on religion. She knew that she had to listen to her HEART, regardless of the consequences, because she could not be the good little Christian girl her father wanted. She knew that the Christian GOD could not stand for all that she believed in. The pain incurred from breaking the "chains" that bound her the religion her family wanted her so much to believe in, made her heart CRY, for fear of losing her family's LOVE. - --->WINTER: *capitalized words: DRIFTS GET DEEPER, CHANGE, MELTS, SKATING, PROUD, WHITE HORSES *Winter is, as most people agree, about Tori's relationship with her father. Possibly she gets to a point in her life where she realizes that the person she is, is becoming less and less of the person her father wants her to be. Her life continues and the DRIFTS GET DEEPER, for there is more confusion and disagreement between her and her father that she finds herself wading through. She often finds herself SKATING on thin ice because she wants her father to be PROUD of her, but she is afraid that exposing her true nature will make the ice break. She knows that she cannot stay daddy's little girl forever, and she finally MELTS the ice. Of course everything CHANGEs, but she has found her WHITE HORSES to carry her to own inner freedom. - --->HAPPY PHANTOM *capitalized words: HAPPY, HAPPY, HAPPY, NAUGHTIES, TRULY, SIN *In my opinion, Happy Phantom has a lot of sexual innuendos. I think these words tell a fairly straight-forward story. They speak for the more mischevious, seductive side of Tori. She is so HAPPY when she "runs naked through the yard" so-to-speak; yet, she knows she is being one of the NAUGHTIES, one who commits these SINful acts in the eyes of the Church. But it doesn't matter to her, it makes her HAPPY, TRULY HAPPY. ~~One more, then I'll stop rambling~ - --->ME AND A GUN *capitalized words: BARBADOS, CAROLINA *This one is fairly simple. Tori is being raped. She is imagining two worlds: the first is BARBADOS, the fairytale, paradise world where everything is perfect and beautiful. There is nothing bad in this world, there is no hurt. The second world is CAROLINA, the cruel, real-life world where people do bad things, and pain is more common than happiness. Unfortunately, the rape has just reinforced the fact that she lives in CAROLINA, no matter how hard she has tried to get to BARBADOS. Well, as I say, those are just kind of how I imagine those words to relate to one another. I do think that there is some kind of correlation between all the CAP words in each song, although it may not be exactly the way I have described it. Just my 2 CENTS. :) Amy, the choirgirl - -- Amy M Belden ubelda00@umail.ucsb.edu BlackDove21@hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 01:48:38 EDT From: RedSpark18@aol.com Subject: Does your site qualify for a stringbean award? Hey ya'll, Just put up my new award page. To win an award send an email to Redspark18@aol.com. Include your name, email addy, site name, site url, and a little about yourself and your site... EASY huh?! Have a great day! RED ***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~*** :) Musta been a real nice price she's puttin on her STRINGBEAN LOVE :) ***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~*** http://www.geocities.com/sunsetstrip/vine/9831/index3.html ***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~***~*** ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 07:36:30 -0700 From: skh Subject: Re: AOL Tori chat: XXXPandora@aol.com wrote: > I have been more than one or two time and it hasn't ALWAYS been that way - 5 > or 6 years ago anyone could go into any AOL chat room and been accepted. actually... that's not true. back when IRC was more consolidated, way back when around 93, it was almost impossible for anyone to get into #toriamos, unless you were one of the chosen. i realize we're not talkng about IRC, and i dont' eally have anything to do with aol... principle still applies. i think it has gotten worse, in terms of exclusion--to pin a time frame on it--since she has gotten more media coverage, and, at the risk of opening up yet another can of worms, attracted a much younger following... there is very much an exclusive air among fan circles--not just online-- that simply was not there, even at the time of Dew Drop Inn... i must say though that i have met some of the best people i call friends, in tori networks, and that would include my SO of the past 3 years... we of the local faction get together and keep in touch regularly... and it's a group that is certianly open to newcomers... good groups *are* out there... just keep looking... as with anything in life, if you don't like the status quo, create your own standard. maybe if we all sought to have the most open and friendly tori chat spaces, none of us would feel excluded from any of them... ~~kelley ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 05:47:47 GMT From: Tha Shaigirl Subject: Duessa Abayan... I'm really sorry to send this out to the lists, but I've been trying to e-mail Duessa Abayan for over 2 weeks now and her e-mail is STILL bouncing. I know at first, I had the wrong address, but then a few people corrected it for me. But still... no use! So if you're out there "Duessa Abayan", this e-mail is for you. (Or if you're a friend could you pass it along?) Thanks!!! ~Shaigirl === Hello. Forgive me if I sound too anxious, but I'm feeling a bit nervous about all this. You were really good about keeping in contact about our trade up until I mailed out your "Sessions" cd. You never told me whether you received it or not. I know I mailed it out, several weeks ago, to your friend in NY, but then it was return by the post office, saying "no such number". I remailed it to the original address you had given me. Now I have yet to hear back from you. About a week ago, you emailed me, said sorry, and you'd email me again with an explanation. Well, I'm still waiting to hear from you! Maybe you forgot. I really don't mean to sound rude, but I've been burned one too many times and from what I've heard from others, you're a decent trader! So I'm figuring something came up or something went wrong that you couldn't help or something like that! I'm giving you the benefit of the doubt here. That's why I've just been waiting for you, but now I'm getting nervous!!! Please, please, PLEASE let me know what's up!!! I'm really wanting my two tapes!!! Thanks! In Tori ~ Shaigirl _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 09:18:38 +0100 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: spelling/horses Apparently Beth Winegarner wrote: >Ken Tough wrote: >> everyday's my wedding day >> though baby's still in his comatose state >> I'll die my own Easter eggs >> A questionable one, (should be dye), but Easter is all about >> dying (i.e as in die) and resurrection, and baby (or her egg) >> is still in its comatose state, will it die? >It depends highly on whether she's talking about Christian Easter or not. >The holiday, in essence, is a fertility holiday, and hence is not about >death, but life. But if you only go as far as the Christian perspective, >then it is about death. (well, ok, to be fair, the pagan holiday is about >rebirth into life and fetility, but even so, the egg itself would *never* >represent death!) Good point, though I think we're agreed that the pagan one (on which the christian one is based) is about resurrection/rebirth, of the whole world in spring. (True, it's a celebration of life and fertility definitely not of death). As you say the egg represents life and fertility, definetly not death, so would you reckon she's making an ironic link between dye & die and the fertility/life symbol? [I'd really be interested to know whether it's just a spelling mistake, but we will never find out.] >Ken I'm surprised you didn't include the "hominy/get it on the plate girl" >line. Not that hominy is spelled wrong; but when she sings it, it sounds a >lot more like "harmony." Definitely a double meaning there. >One last item: in "horses" when she sings the line about "my hosies" she >also sounds like she's singing "my horses." Surely intentional, as with the >harmony/hominy line. Good points (I was reallly looking at the spelling "mistakes", but "hosies" is a very nice one I missed. hose...pansies/posies/roses/ panties/horsies) If we include those pronunciation "puns", we'd also have to put in: Not the Red Baron Not Judy G Not Jean Jean with a hallowed heart I see that screen go down in the flames with every step with every beautiful heel pointed The "hallowed" is pronounced "Harlow-ed", referring to Jean Harlow, the actress who was a strong woman and had a bit of a tragic life. >Ken; I thought "sweeteaze" was a brand of sweetener? I can't remember where >I read that. Good point; I think you're right. - -- Ken Tough ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 07:19:39 GMT From: Wake UpNeo Subject: My bouncy post... 'scuse the double-quotemarks please... (My original email, which bounced back off the list--should i take a hint from the cyberfates ?--is below.) ************ > >Had some pennies in my pocket, so i thought i'd thrown in two cents here >and >there ;o) : > > >Richard Handal H.G. wrote: (and others, in a similar stripe): > > >" >Although she had already been doing a dance before Cornflake Girl > >earlier on the DDI tour in '96, she apparently first did those moves as > >you describe on July 21 in Portland, Oregon. > > > >As we all know at this point, she was not pregnant then, but it did set > >off a ripple of rumors as she continued to perform those moves in the > >Cornflake dance during the remainder of the tour. " > >Decided to finally throw some pennies into the growing stack on this one. >I >saw her do the "Cornflake Girl" dance at the KROQ Christmas concert; but it >was very brief and i don't remember its including the 'rocking' gesture. >She did a short set, with no talking; the buzz was that she was not feeling >well. =( She wasn't there for the end of show encore that included most >of >the night's acts. In interviews later, she made a comment about the CG >dance (in general): that it was her 'gathering energy' dance and that she >had traded a girlfriend (piano or singing lessons i think) for dancing >'lessons' (informal ones). I think she said something about wanting to >express more physically during her shows through dance moves ? Or to learn >how to do that. Gee, i'm gonna have to start looking up these interviews >(or paying more attention when they come out). At the KROQ show, it did >look like a 'gathering energy' dance; she mainly made pulling motions, >after >she'd sort of run to the edge of the stage; half-skipped back to her piano >and that was it, until the long 'grrrrrl' part where she made hand motions >while seated. She didn't look as if she felt well. I assumed it was the >flu. It had that 'oh my gosh i gotta sit down again' aura about it, when >she danced. And of course, she said later, in interviews, that it was just >after the KROQ show that she suffered her miscarriage. :'o( > >I don't remember her doing this dance at all, at the earlier L.A. Greek >shows, but i could (as always) be very mistaken there. > >******* > >Megasus said: (major snippage here) > >" I > >also think maybe it's because she just has a love for kids... after >seeing > >her work with > >kids, " > >I just wanted to add, here, that for a while now i've had this vision/idea >of Tori starting a (mostly music) school for kids back in England near >where >she lives. That, between albums, while raising a family of her own >perhaps, >and looking for something more low-key, she could get a small school going; >one that was no or low tuition, and unstructured, and all the things she >would have liked The Peabody to have been like. =) Your post about her >working with kids made me wanna spill the idea here. What does everyone >think of this ? Wouldn't that be kewl ? (she wouldn't have to actually >teach there; at least not regularly; just to set it rolling, and look in >every so often) It's just a vision; no flames, please, about viability >(that's all up to Tori, if it ever even happened) =). > >************ > >Ingeborg said: > > >The pigs is the ugly, evil, bad parts of ourselves we have to accept. >cause > >nature is loving and cruel at the same time. > >I think this is a good way to say it. From what i recall of Tori's own >explanation of the pig picture in the Boys for Pele cd booklet, >the pig represented all that is unaccepted, 'not kosher'. I think she said >something about this on one of her Leno appearances, too. She also said >somewhere, (not exact quote here:) that 'dad kept asking me to do a >Christmas card photo, so here it is... Madonna and child' (lol) (she >wasn't >referring to the pop singer ;o) ) > >********** > >Kelley and Jennifer said (re: 'rabbit where'd ya put the keys girl'): > > > > >it is called When Rabbit Howls... > > > >~~kelley > > > >Jennifer Lynn Roth wrote: > > > > > I forgot the name of the book some people were talking about in > >reference > > > to the discussion of the meaning of "rabbit > >Someone help me out here. I could swear Tori's said that she has a friend >named Rabbit (altho i am *not* claiming this is what the lyrics mean; or >even that Tori's own comments refer to the lyric line). When i heard that, >i always assumed the lyric means (to me) Tori searching for a friendly face >in the midst of horror. as in, 'rabbit where'd ya put the keys i gotta run >away home and be safe' I even think i remember her saying something about >staying at Rabbit's house sometimes ? Or am i dreaming... > >*************** > >Heather asked: > > I live in Tulsa Oklahoma and I read something about a Texas/Oklahoma > >torifest of some sort. Could someone please clerify what this means?? >Is > >the godess actually coming to OK?? I've never seen her live before so >this > >could be huge!! > >A Torifest as far as i know, usually means that a bunch of people who >appreciate Tori and her music get together in a designated city and sort of >have a celebration =) I haven't been to one, but i hear there are lots of >kewl things to buy (like Tori collectibles, t shirts, bootlegs, on and on); >and fun times. Sometimes proceeds for part of all that go to RAINN. But >Tori herself doesn't appear at these. It's more of an EWF/Toriphile ;o) >gathering. Like a comic con type of thing (well sorta). > >************* > >John Drummond posited: > > > Okay, I think the piggy she's suckling is at > >least partially statement about Trent Reznor, and a > >link to their music. > >Hmm, interesting theory =) which i hadn't thought of before. > >Trent refers to himself as a pig > >in his music, he calls himself by that name, > >Thought he was calling someone else a pig in that song ? But i know very >little about NiN other than listening to some of the cds. *shrug* > >and by > >having a picture of a piglet, this context places > >Trent Reznor in the arms of a nurturing Tori, > >What a visual !!!! =) A tiny little Trent *hee* > >and > >she's said in interviews that she does nurture him, > >she goes and bakes chicken for him and things... > >Don't remember her saying she nurtured him (not saying that means she >didn't >say it !); but i remember her saying in more than one interview (i just >remember things like this folks; i don't pore over Tori interviews or keep >a >stack nearby; honest !!) that she baked chicken for him (once) in the >former >Tate house on Cielo Drive in Malibu. That, for those who aren't up on such >things (and i wish i could forget this particular bit o trivia), is the >house where the Manson 'family' killed Sharon Tate (wife of director Roman >Polanski, and a movie star of her day) and her friends such as Jay Sebring >(a famous Hollywood hairdresser of that time, and supposedly the movie >"Shampoo" was based on him) and Abigail Folger (heiress to the Folgers >coffee fortune) among others who happened to be there, in the 1970s (or was >it late 60s ?). The Trent connection ? He rented that house a few years >back (and may have done some recording there, even; can't remember). AN E >WAYY... Tori cooked one of her special recipes of fried chicken there, for >Trent and i think some other people were there too; but the dinner was a >culinary failure and no one would eat it. Tori told her mom about this, >and >asked her why; her mom replied 'maybe there is a curse on that kitchen' >because of the Folgers heiress being killed so violently in that house. >Just some background on the baking-chicken thing. It didn't seem like it >was a regular thing, her cooking for Trent (altho of course, i have NO idea >about that). More like a one time thing that didn't go very well. > >Still, i LIKE the idea that that little baby pig in Tori's arms in the BFP >cd booklet photo represents Trent Reznor. Can't help myself... >*heeheeheehee* > >so the pig is Trent, and Tori is > >the mother figure. Okay... > >*heehee* > >Shades of Alice in Wonderland, eh ?? > >PS) The "Tate" house has since been torn down, i'm pretty sure.... > >**************** > >Natalie asked: > >so several times > >on the list I have noticed people talking about how Tori erratically > >spells some of the words in her lyrics...I myself havent particularly > >noticed this, so could some kind and golden soul perhaps give me some > >examples of this? Thanks in advance! > >well, there's alive below the waste (waist), from Liquid Diamonds, and In a >Sense (innocence) as someone else mentioned; from which song i dunno >offhand; it's more like double meanings than wrong or erratic spelling tho. >And, i haven't seen Tori herself say that there *are* double meanings >there; >it's just that she's spelled some things in unexpected ways that seem to >point out more than one possible meaning. >(or did i just say the same thing u did ?) > >PS) i erased this part by accident but u mentioned my saying what you say, >only in more flowery language. Hm, yeh. I hope i add >*something* new tho ! Altho by admission i'm not the terse type. Let's >just say i was never good at haiku ;o) > >Natalie revealed: > >Once I went in there > >and told the kiddies that I was a sociologist doing a study on the nature > >of cliques....and, as always, I was utterly ignored. > >*hee* I bet a lot of lurkers were appreciating the joke tho =) > > > > >I told several people that I was going to create a room called No Snobby > >Tori Fans :) > >I tried a room title called "ToriAmosFriendly" but it wouldn't fit in the >space. =( I'd already tried other such things; finally settled on >Toriphiles (not wanting a thousand people to ask what Ears with Feet >means). > Only one person came in, asked what Toriphile meant, was told, and left. >LOL Ah well. Maybe if we all come up with one name and someone tries to >create the room daily. (or takes turns informally) > >PS) Ya 'outed' my gender ! Dayam. No more gender-objective replies. Oh, >well. ;o) > >******************* > >Richard Handal H.G. pointed out: > > > > >I have to say, it's always eye-opening when I find out the things > >people have been running through their minds. I wonder if Jimmy Buffet > >fans have discussions about what constitutes a Parrothead. Somehow I > >doubt that. > >I *LOL* at that one. =) Hee. And (do they discuss) whether or not there >is some connection to the Monty Python pet shop sketch ? "That is an EX >parrot !" "No, it's pining". Heeheeheehee. > >************* > >Michelle said (re: a new, friendly Tori chatroom on AOL) > > > > >I'll take you up on this one. Would love a place to actually "talk >Tori". > >:-) > >OKey dokey ! Anyone have a great chatroom name, one that'll alert everyone >that it's safe there (kind of a DMZ) and that will fit in the alloted AOL >chatroom title space ? =) > >********* > >I've actually run out of PT digest ! Oh no !! *withdrawal pangs* Guess >it's time to sign off. Sorry if this was too long. I better not hit >'reply' again (before setting hands to keyboard). There's a reason cut and >paste was only meant to work one quote at a time ;o) heh. > > >Empty pockets, > > >K. > > > _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 12:38:17 EDT From: JewlyaINAP@aol.com Subject: sandra bernhard? Which sandra bernhard cd does Tori do backup on...and what song is it??? thanks, jewlya ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 18:40:17 +0100 From: "E.L Walker" Subject: Re: Tori Videos This is a quote from Jenn about "Tori's Child" >I mean, imagine what her child will be like! >Beautiful, talented, insightful Is Tori being cloned!!? Squidgy :-) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 18:08:00 +0100 From: "squidgy" Subject: Re: pigs and men - ---------- >From: Tom xxxxx >To: precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: pigs and men >Date: Tue, Jun 8, 1999, 18:13 > > >Here is my take on the pig Tori suckles. > >I think, given the anti-man tone of BfP, that she is saying something like >"Well, so many of the men I've taken to my breast have been pigs, why >shouldn't I take a real pig there as well." Now, I"ve never heard Tori say >it, but that's what occurred to me. And, men are pigs. I should know: I am >one and I date them. As for the pigs in the RS video, I haven't seen it so I >have no comment. >Tom > >"We own nothing, nothing is ours >Not even love so fierce it burns like baby stars >But this poverty is our greatest gift >The weightlessness of us as things around begin to shift." >Emily Saliers, "Everything in Its Own Time" > > >___________________________________________________ Pigs are gorgeous, and very intelligent animals :-),"most" men are gits Squidgy. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 11:35:32 EDT From: JupiterCMS@aol.com Subject: Not like anyone cares but Tori is mentioned at the end Here is today's daily joke . . . Recently, we had an interview with Trevor Valentine and Ron Lapse of "The Marzipan Bunnies," a San Francisco-based band with a growing following. Here's what they had to say. BS: So tell me about your band's sound. TV: Well, imagine that Jim Morrison had been born in 1973, in the Ukraine. It's kind of like that, except more punk. With banjos. RL: Right. It's kind of like ABBA goes hardcore, but without the blond ones. It's as if you took everything we learned from ska, and ignored it. It's like a speed-metal Squirrel Nut Zippers. TV: But without the squirrel. RL: Right, without the squirrel. It's as if you replaced the squirrel with a hedgehog or a small side salad, and backed them up with the horns from Huey Lewis and the News and the synths from the first half of "Rio." TV: And had Natalie Merchant sing it. RL: First getting her really drunk and playing "Mall Madness" for a while. TV: And then stuffing her in a trunk with a microphone and having her do a Tom Waits impression. RL: Basically, it's a Bananarama for the nineties, only with a early eighties rockabilly-meets-Kraftwerk sensibility. Except more so. TV: It's like you did an electrified cover of an acoustic version of Soul Coughing doing "Horse With No Name," but with new lyrics that were more like Jack Kerouac getting slapped around by a sort of folk-rock En Vogue-- RL: --or Michael Stipe wearing Grace Slick's undergarments circa 1978. TV: And you took all that and used it as the backing track to a sort of The-Ventures-meet-Van-Halen-at-the-Lilith-Fair techno/Arabic track that kind of floats in and out of your consciousness like some kind of hairy insect on Ritalin. That, plus a sort of Elvis Costello minus Cyndi Lauper stage presence, is basically our band. BS: Ah. I see. Well, I think that just about does it for my questions. "The Marzipan Bunnies" will be at The Pillbug Club this Thursday, opening for "Rorschach Hot Plate Vanguard." TV: We will? RL: Yeah, you remember. They're that sort of Meatloaf-meets-The- Archies band, only without the guitars. TV: Oh, them. I always thought they were more of an industrial version of Fun Boy Three with sort of an R&B Tori Amos on lead vocals. RL: Well, that too. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 20:43:03 GMT From: Tha Shaigirl Subject: "Imperfect" CD for grabs Anyone interested in a copy of disc #2 from the 10.25.98 Providence, RI boot? I've been having some arguements with my CD-Writer and it screwed up twice on that same boot. So I have 2 copies. It's almost perfect until track 8, the last song, Pandora's Aquarium... it cuts off like a minute of the show. Other than that... it's peachy. I'm asking $3 for the cd & shipping! Letme know ~ Shaigirl _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 13:36:32 -0500 From: Debbie Subject: Blue Skies Remixes Hi everyone :) I'm looking for some Blue Skies remixes in an audio file -- preferably mp3. I think one is called BT's Liquid Oxygen Dub. There is a person on mIRC that has them in an mp3 channel but he "pinged out" while I was "grabbing" them and I've not seen him again. So I turn to my faithful EWF. If someone can point me in the right direction, or possibly rip them to mp3 for me, I'd be greatly appreciated. Thanks, Debbie 'Everyone needs some depressing music and a bottle of wine sometimes' - tori ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 00:27:48 -0700 From: forsythia_in_the_spam@juno.com Subject: Thought it was a good solution, hanging with the raisin girls Hello Purple People, Well I am going to speak of the Cornflake Girl dance even though I am days late. Juno was dead on the other puter for the mouse decided to destroy itself. Damn suicidal mice. . . But yeah, I finally put Juno on this puter so I shall reply very tardily. Just sit and pretend I was 3 days earlier. The dance on the RAINN video, I kinda thought it was funny, at first. I mean, I, like everyone else, didn't think much of it. It was just some strange dance. But then the news of Tori's miscarriage came and I am extremely sensitive of the matters of children. Funny, since most of them around me at work at complete assholes. But yeah, one night I was watching the RAINN concert. I was bleeding, so I was extra moody. Anyway, I was really scary that night cause I kept crying every time I Tori utter a phrase in the songs that seemed to remotely pertain to her miscarriage. In "Little Amsterdam" she says something like "go little girls to the upstairs" or something and I took it to me "go little girl to heaven". And in "Waitress" she kept hauntingly repeating "there are somethings you don't know." And I somehow equated that to her miscarriage, I know I'm a bit psycho. Shhh! And in precious things she's all, "Daddy wash me clean wash me clean" and I somehow interpreted it to mean "wash the blood from the miscarriage away." I know, I have a very overactive imagination. Always wear your helmet, kids, or you'll end up like me. And I noticed that in the "Cornflake Girl" dance. She does a pregnant belly motion, then a birthing motion. And she does some strange, heavy movements. Then she runs to the piano, yelling something and she pretends to throw the baby, in the arms, over her shoulders. I thought that was like "miscarriage" so I broke down sobbing. Anyway, I'm scary sometimes. So yeah, have nice day. Bi bis. Me, the Flea "I found the secret to life I'm okay when everthing is not okay." - - Upside Down Tori Amos ________________________________________________________________ Get free e-mail you don't need Web access to use -- Or get full, reliable Internet access from Juno Web! Download your free software today: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagh. ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 09 Jun 1999 14:07:21 PDT From: Lauren DePhillips Subject: Re: peggy got a message for me.... >From: Freedom110@aol.com >To: lauren15@hotmail.com, precious-things@smoe.org, BritPele@aol.com >Subject: Re: peggy got a message for me.... >Date: Wed, 9 Jun 1999 00:35:09 EDT > >This is so interesting because if this is what she meant in the >song, then >technically that boy that passed the note is Jesus (Not >in a literal >sense,but who knows?!) (''Peggy got a message for me, >from Jesus'') And >that she knows everything that she has said... Is >it just me or is Tori >one deep woman? Can NSync or Backstreet give >you something like this? >So what she's trying to say is that, Jesus knew her voice wasen't >good >back then, or did he say that to purposly make her work at it. >Or just to >ridicule >her? Guys.. help! > >Am I over-analizing this? > > > >-Gus >....Do it again Maybe it just means that at the time it was so tramatizing to her (as these things sometimes are) that it was almost as powerful as if Jesus came down and told her personally..... or perhaps it has nothing to do with it? _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #169 *************************************