From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #109 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, April 14 1999 Volume 04 : Number 109 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: seeing tori [Tasha325@aol.com] Re: star f#*%er [silverfish ] Re: Why I Won't Meet Tori [skh ] Re: star f#*%er ["K. Fischer" ] Re: UK tori singles [Ken Tough ] Re: Why I Won't Meet Tori [plugged99@webtv.net (Rob F.)] [none] ["beulah girl" ] Re: God again [Tasha325@aol.com] Slaughter City and Spark [silverfish ] Re: God [Space Dog ] Re: Tori on TV (music books) ["Thomas Mazorlig" ] tori interview ["sheina kalinchak" ] Re: Dew Drop Inn and some other things... [Richard Handal ] Re: star f#*%er ["Pandora ~" ] Re: meeting tori [PRLstoke@aol.com] Re: Dew Drop Inn and Skriker ["glytter grrl" ] Paula [marion.laqua@t-online.de (Laqua)] Re: had never heard this... [Jennifer Lynn Roth ] I Kan't Tori Read ["Lauren DePhillips" ] Tori & Christianity & Being ourselves [Stephen Golato ] Meeting Tori [Erinita@aol.com] Re: star f#*%er [Torydust@aol.com] Re: I Kan't Tori Read [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: I Kan't Tori Read ["Sonya Harway" ] Re: I Kan't Tori Read ["Sonya Harway" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:45:34 EDT From: Tasha325@aol.com Subject: Re: seeing tori I had tori way up high. she helped me through everything for a couple of years. i met her once and it bumped her up higher. then i met her again on this tour and she brought herself down to humanity. i was disappointed for a few weeks but understand her better now and feel released and free to love her and respect her as a sister rather than a god. she still continues to get all of my spare money... :) and then some. tasha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:42:26 -0400 (EDT) From: silverfish Subject: Re: star f#*%er On Mon, 12 Apr 1999 Katapilla7@aol.com wrote: > i always thought it meant that too but if stern was calling someone that and > he was using it like it was a often used phrase to call a suck up in > hollywood or whatever before tori using that phrase i had never heard it so > but yeah i dont know i dont think that stern got the phrase from tori I don't know, maybe it's a regional thing or something, but "starfucker" is a word you come across pretty often here in NYC. I've only ever heard it used in the context Howard Stern was said to have used it, ie someone who tries to get in with the famous set. If you read Time Out New York or The Voice for a long enough period of time, you're bound to come across it. Hope that helped... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 07:26:17 -0700 From: skh Subject: Re: Why I Won't Meet Tori hi all... well, if it's any solace to those who don't want to meet tori, she is indeed the goddes you believe her to be... while i don't follow the "i don't want to meet" idea, i am not a picture taker, or autograph hound... i find those things degrading somehow, to myself and to the person i am meeting... anyway... she *is* ~~kelley ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:31:56 -0700 (PDT) From: "K. Fischer" Subject: Re: star f#*%er The term 'starf*#%er' is usually meant the way it sounds. A starfucker is someone who literally or figuratively "f*#%s" a person who is powerful or famous just so they can feel powerful or important. A good example would be what some people call groupies (not the ones who follow bands like the Grateful Dead, but the ones who sleep with all the guys in Motley crew). These groupies want to feel like they are part of something big, so they sleep with someone in the band and brag about it. They make themselves feel important this way. Karin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 08:30:47 +0100 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: UK tori singles Apparently Abbe J Cohen wrote: >I'll be in England later this week and I'm wondering > a) whether UK singles from LE and UtP are easier to find or cheaper over >there than in the US, and Judging by most items in r.m.t-a's price FAQ, I'd say they are cheaper. > b) where you'd recommend looking for them. Unfortunately, I'd say the best place to look is Record Collector magazine. You could also try some used record fairs in London. - -- Ken Tough ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:37:43 -0500 (CDT) From: plugged99@webtv.net (Rob F.) Subject: Re: Why I Won't Meet Tori Hey. Just wanted to say that I can especially relate to this. Before Tori, my favorite singer was Amy Grant (although she's still a fave). As fate would have it, I met Amy on my birthday in '92 and it was not exactly bad but not exactly good and definitely shapes the way I think of her now. Of couse, I spent hers thinking of some big mind blowing question and we had a deep discussion but anyway - it can have that effect. -Rob ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 22:41:35 PDT From: "beulah girl" Subject: [none] Hello loves I know how annoying it is to have people ask for things here but I have a request. I am at the end of my options having posted at the dent forum and searching various trading sites (and having no Tori collecting friends). A few months back my cat urinated on my copy of various Tori TV appearances. This video contained several repeat programs which I have elsewhere, but it also contained the MTV Live and 1515 programs and the first David Letterman performance. I know it sounds like a my-dog-ate-my-homework type deal, but it's the truth. If anyone has the ability and the heart to make me a copy of these appearances I would be so so so appreciative... Please let me know if you have it in your heart to help a girl with pussy issues... Thanks Emma _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:40:10 EDT From: Tasha325@aol.com Subject: Re: God again In a message dated 4/12/99 10:27:22 PM Central Daylight Time, Thisbe5716@aol.com writes: > she told me she had been "born again" and that she wasn't > allowed to listen to any secular music anymore. She looked like she wanted > to > cry there is a guy in my town here who did the same thing. he "got rid" of all of his cds and gave away his bed "because he didn't need it as much as other people" when he became a christian. alot of it is self-denial for the sake of feeling saved. he came over to my apartment once and was looking at all of my cds like he hadn't eaten in years. he even smelled some clove cigarettes in an ashtray. here is the tori relevance: he reminds me of greg: "greg he writes letters and burns his cds. they say you were something in those formative years." i know that is not what the song may mean but it makes me happy to think of it as corey. tori enhances my christianity because she understands my feelings when the vast majority of others do not. tasha ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:50:01 -0400 (EDT) From: silverfish Subject: Slaughter City and Spark Hey precious peeps- I've been meaning to bring this up for a while, but never seem to get the chance to actually do so. But has anyone here ever read the play Slaughter City by Naomi Wallace? I ask, because I think that it is most definitely where the idea of a "spark" came from for the song of the same name. It makes sense too, as Wallace is an American playwright who has never really been accepted in the US, but is a huge success in the UK. Slaughter City was first performed in 1996, which makes the time frame very relevant. For those of you who haven't read it, there is a character who in a crucial moment refers to the unborn child inside of her as her "spark." There are more parallels to be drawn, but I don't want to give too much away for those who may want to read it. A word of caution though: it is extremely graphic is some places, and some people may find it disturbing. Ok, wow my first post of substance in a very long time! :) I'd be interested in hearing any thoughts on this subject... Chris ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 12 Apr 1999 23:58:01 -0400 From: Space Dog Subject: Re: God I've got to get in on this one. I'm a Christian. I was "born again" if that's what you want to call it. I've stuck with Tori, though, because i think that in a way she has affirmed my belief in God. She helps me challenge those things which i always took for face-value without ever questioning. But, in the end, God always turns around and kicks my butt and shows me what I should be doing anyway. Even still, i can't help but swing the hips a little to God or dig into Past The Mission or belt out that line in Spark or cuss along with Tori on Professional Widow. I have a lot of friends who really don't feel close to God when they are surrounded by secular music. I don't really have that problem as far as I see it because I happen to believe that music is a very special place that God has alotted for us to say whatever we want and to express ourselves to the fullest, deepest recesses of our souls. And if we're really hating and resenting God at that moment, then that's what needs to come out. I don't believe in repression, I don't think Christianity is about guilt at all, and I disagree that Christianity is a terrible thing. People who have claimed to be Christians have done some pretty horrible things in history--mass genocides, persecution, instilling fear, guilt, shame--but Christianity as a faith, as a way of living, doesn't teach that. I see it as a way to be liberated from guilt. But I'm digressing... It's been a difficult decision to stick with Tori on this journey of mine. But I've always felt that Tori is saying exactly what I'm feeling inside and always has. Yeah, sometimes I hate God. But it takes courage to hold myself to a high standard of living and to admit that sometimes things aren't going to be so great and I'm going to be a hypocrite. So there's a lot of Tori in me. I really think that if we met, we'd get along so well...so the God thing has always been an issue, but I know where I stand and I know where Tori stands. As long as there's this mutuality I feel that I can only take what I can from her and simply "breathe it in" sometimes. Slap my Jesus-frekin' 'fro, JOE (You'd be surprised at how many people actually ask me whether I have a fro or not. FYI, I do not, but I'm working on it) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* "Yes, we are the creatures that love and slaughter." -Steven Dobyns (Velocities) * * * Hang-Ten, Honey... ...Tune in to WSPS 90.5 FM, Concord, NH! (Wed nites 8.30-9.30) *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 00:24:53 PDT From: "Thomas Mazorlig" Subject: Re: Tori on TV (music books) Chrissy wrote: and i wanted to say how happy i was with the drawings and added >notes. I hadn't bought it before because i dont know how to play the piano >or anything, but are the other music books like that as well? I would buy >them as well, I can only speak about the LE book, which is the only one I've seen. I has some nice photos, and, best of all, Tori wrote a little piece about the recording or inspiration for each song. Some of these pieces are interesting poems in their own write. I have to admit, I didn't buy it; I just photocopied the written intros. I don't play music, so I didnt' want to spend the money on it. In retrospect, it was probably worthe it anyway. Tom "We own nothing, nothing is ours Not even love so fierce it burns like baby stars But this poverty is our greatest gift The weightlessness of us as things around begin to shift." Emily Saliers, "Everything in Its Own Time" _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:50:29 PDT From: "sheina kalinchak" Subject: tori interview Hello-I'm new to this list so many of you may already know this, but there is a wonderful interview with Tori that can be accessed through the links on a Neil Gaiman website: http://www.holycow.com/dreaming/ If this is just repetition to you, I apologize. If not, enjoy! Hope everyone is doing well... - -sheina _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 04:52:01 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Dew Drop Inn and some other things... Ellen Morris said: > i have to ask if there are any PSYCHOLOGY people out there who might > have some insight in a thought i have about Pele in general, but this > lyric and many in "horses" in particular are a good example of it. > but i majored in psych in undergrad and many of tori's lyrics i find > have a sort of "schitzophrenic" quality in it.. > > but honey DO DROP INN at the DEW DROP INN.. > > ...a tailor a sailor > but you would if i would but you never will... > > very repetitive rhyming like. I'm sorry not to be a psychology person and to be replying to this anyway, but I have some thoughts on it. This is something which comes out sometimes in Tori's songs, especially ones which were "composed" as she played them for the first time, as was Horses. I always figured that, more than anything else, it was an example of how the mind tends to make connections with words which sound similar. That a schizophrenic person would do this also makes perfect sense to me. Some would suggest that the subconscious mind had put those words together for unknown reasons of its own, and surely there must be some truth to that. This effect is one reason Tori herself can compose some of those extemporized songs and not really have a clear intention of their meaning, but they surely can keep one going around with various ideas about that for a long time. I also wanted to mention that in my view, Tori's coming up with Horses was clearly influenced by her having read the poem "She Had Some Horses," which was written by Muskogee tribe member Joy Harjo who's from Oklahoma, and later, from New Mexico. I'll spare the bandwidth by not posting the full text of this poem, but here's the URL where the poem can be found online: http://hanksville.phast.umass.edu/poems/Horses.html. After reading this poem I think many of you will agree that it's difficult to imagine Tori writing Horses had she not read it. Or maybe not. :-) (Anyone who wants to read "She Had Some Horses" but can't get it off the web themself let me know, and I'll email it to you.) I also want to note that Marianne was a song which poured from her in one take, as did Horses, and sailors are mentioned in there, too. I think that's really cool. Like a secret fetish or something. Left to her own mind's wanderings, Tori's brain regularly has run to sailors. :-D Pretty funny. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:05:30 EDT From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: had never heard this... In a message dated 99-04-12 19:13:45 EDT, lawson@colomsat.net.co writes: << "Summertime... and the ??? the fish are jumping and the cotton's ??? oh, your daddy's rich and your momma's ??? >> This is from the songe "Summertime" by the Gershwin's.It's froma musical (I wanna say Progy and Bess, but I don't think they wrote that). it really is a great song. wow, I can't believe she covered it !!!! Do you know if this is available anywhere? I would lvoe to get a copy. I will send the lyrics later, cause I have them...somewhere. ~* jo§h ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 10:42:10 -0400 From: Thlayli Subject: Re: star f#*%er Katapilla7 wrote: >so i was listening ot howard stern this morning and they were talking about >kathy lee sucking up to famous people and being such a star fucker would that > be what tori is meaning by a star fucker some one that sucks up to famous >people or something The term comes from a Rolling Stones song (later covered by Joan Jett) about groupies. - -- Thlayli Namer of the Seasons * BMF * Your Tax Dollars At Work thlayli23x@worldnet.att.net http://www.geocities.com/~thlayli23x/home.html Whore Code 2.0:WhBu6G3 LJ hBrs--|++|g b77/!! B3ZZ a30 sM1M! K8+ v52 oZ X44 w4Tr5|3|c E++ p6f6v{76}#g5s7C D2z6|8|! Ham+usNY5 *** Rest In Peace, Xander *** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:10:49 PDT From: "Pandora ~" Subject: Re: star f#*%er Okay this is my experience with the word starfucker: My friends and I basically use it to describe someone who is a total suck up to anyone they consider to be famous. A groupie of sorts. Their lives basically consist of dropping names of musical groups, and celebrities (stars) etc. that they have met, hung out with or FUCKED....etc (thus STAR-FUCKER). They try to become buddies...with famous people in order to be popular with others. Sort of trying to be "famous" themselves but only by being a name dropper. A PATHETIC EXISTENCE IN MY OPINION. Thus if the word starfucker was used it wasn't just because of Tori it's a pretty well known term for a pretty pathetic person. Love and a day is not totally wasted, if you are totally wasted all day, Pandora(goddess) _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 18:42:49 EDT From: PRLstoke@aol.com Subject: Re: meeting tori It's a shame that some people find it "crushing" to meet tori - for me it was just so so so so so wondeful to be able to say "thank you". It was years ago and I still get a bit of a buzz from knowing that I gave something personal, one-to-one, back to her by saying that - just a token of course, but she *knows* what it means when someone says that. Damn she is one fine woman :-) pete ##evrybodyknowsSHEsmyMAN## ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 15:34:01 EDT From: "glytter grrl" Subject: Re: Dew Drop Inn and Skriker >many of tori's lyrics i find have a sort of "schitzophrenic" quality in it.. > >but honey DO DROP INN at the DEW DROP INN.. > >...a tailor a sailor >but you would if i would but you never will... > >very repetitive rhyming like. > >i saw a play when i was abroad in england called the skriker or something >like that and the whole play was written in the mind of a schitzophrenic A fellow EWF on this list Becky Zellar put on this same play at her univeristy not too long ago and it was fabulous. maybe she could put some more input on the schitzophrenic/rhyming thing that you are talking about.....Becky you out there? ~~becka ICQ#14314488 AOL IM - SwyngBaybe ~~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~ http://www.geocities.com/RodeoDrive/Outlet/1174 ~~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~ Green Limosine for the redhead dancing, dancing girl ~~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~ _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:20:31 +0200 From: marion.laqua@t-online.de (Laqua) Subject: Paula hi everybody! I just read a book and in the end it reminded me so much of the spark video... Maybe I`m totally wrong with that and there`s no relation at all, but anyway: the book is called Paula by Isabel Allende. On one of the last pages she describes how she`s driving in her car to a forrest. She says she`s nearly blind. When she arrives it`s very hard to walk there, she stumbles over knots and stones. There`s mud on her shoes, her dress is wet and her soul is bleeding. In the end she`s very exhausted because of the stumbling,slipping and so on. She`s falling to her knees and cries out the name of her daughter. Sorry for the bad translation. In the end she has to realize that her daughter (Paula) will die and that she can`t do anything against it. The book came out at 1994. Of course I don`t know if Tori ever read this book but at least Tori really likes Pablo Neruda and there`s a relation to Isabel Allende as well... Anyway, maybe it`s all not right, just wanted to tell you that. bye Anna '*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'* Embrasse-moi, mets ton doigt dans mon cul. Une présence ambigüe, une presence inconnue. Jusqu`a ce que j`en peux plus. placebo '*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'*'* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 12:50:36 -0500 (EST) From: Jennifer Lynn Roth Subject: Re: had never heard this... The song is a cover of the Gershwin tune: Summertime from Porgy and Bess. A VERY famous tune, usually sung as a lullabye. There have been many many covers, including one by Janis Joplin. The lyrics are: Summertime And the living is easy. Fish are jumpin And the cotton is high. Oh, your daddy's rich, And your ma is good lookin So hush little baby, don't you cry. One of these mornins You're gonna rise up singing Then you'll spread your wings, And you'll take the sky. But till that mornin There's a'nothin can harm you With daddy an mammy standin bye. The operatic version is very high snd very hard. Hope this helps. Faery blessings, Jenn On Mon, 12 Apr 1999, Cynthia Lawson wrote: > > Hello, > > My birthday was last Friday, and a cousin made a CD-R for me...a mix of songs she downloaded from the internet. > > And she included a Tori song I have never heard...it is live, and sounds like maybe it's one of her oldies (oldies being before LE), but can anyone confirm this? > > The lyrics go something like this... > > "Summertime... > and the ??? > the fish are jumping and the cotton's ??? > > oh, your daddy's rich and your momma's ??? > > ..." > > Sorry I can't figure out anything else...I've never been very good at deciphering lyrics, and, at the office, I can't raise the volume any more. > > The song is very familiar to me, so I think it must be a cover, and because of the lyrics and the music...very blues. > > anyone have a clue?? > > thanks. > > xx > C. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 14:37:17 PDT From: "Lauren DePhillips" Subject: I Kan't Tori Read Ok...I got a few things to ask but first thing is first: I missed tori on Storytellers. If there is anyone who has a tape and would be willing to make a copy please email me and we can work out some kind of agreement (that sounds a little too formal..) I am also looking for a tape of the recent appearance on the Roseanne show. I would appreciate if you would email me privately (lauren15@hotmail.com). Thanks alot. I was recently in Germany and bought a snagged a somewhat interesting cd in a normal chain music store (WOM--world of music). I was wondering if it is actually worth much. When I first saw it I thought it was a bootleg since it is obviously not the original but now I'm pretty sure it's not. The title on the front cover is "I Kan't Tori Read" (instead of "Y Kan't...). The picture on the front cover shows tori holding the samuri sword (the same as on the original release I think but with a different background). It has the exact same songs as the original "Y Kan't..." I don't that it is a bootleg because it has the atlantic records symbol on the back (underneath this it says cover: FKK and on the back it also says "Produced by Joe Chiccarelli"). The background is white and there are lyrics printed in gray (the lyrics to Pirates I think). Is this some kind of reprint? I must confess that I'm not knowledgeable about this stuff so if anyone can give me even a hint I'd more than appreciate it. Ok lastly if you haven't already skipped over this message already I just wanted to make a comment about a thread that was floating around not so long ago. It had to do with a new tour to support the live/b- sides cd. As much as I would be happy to see tori again in my area I don't like the fact atlantic wants tori to tour when I get the impression that she wants some time off. Someone mentioned that tori wanted to make a three cd set and atlantic would only release a two cd set and they are going to make tori tour. I know that she wouldn't tour if she really didn't think that she could but I would like to see her have some time off. - --Lauren i'm ok when everything is not ok _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 11:35:00 -0400 From: Stephen Golato Subject: Tori & Christianity & Being ourselves Subject: Re: star f#*%er Back in the long ago 70's, we at times (we meaning the generation) would call someone a "starf*cker". That would signify someone who was trying to climb the popularity ladder by sleeping with the top jock, or the big lead actor, etc. This was high school in California and I had always assumed the term had it's birth in LA, where all the big time starf*ckers live, work and of course, F*CK. ;) Tori did not invent the term, nor did anyone else in the last 20 years. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** *~**Fairy Blessings**~* ~~ tori trades and really deep thoughts~ a proud member of the Tori Traders Ring updated at least monthly http://www.angelfire.com/pa/bethey/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:54:27 EDT From: Erinita@aol.com Subject: Meeting Tori Hello Everyone, I just wanted to send a big thank you to all who shared their experiences & views. I am normally pretty shy & quiet on this list, but now I am getting a little more comfortable. Thanks again. Erin "On some of my darkest days, Lucifer's the one who comes & give me an ice cream." - Tori, SPIN March 1996 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:58:05 EDT From: Torydust@aol.com Subject: Re: star f#*%er My cousin's band "Kitty in the Tree" has a song called Starfu**er.....they're pretty well known, they have an article in the Aquarian this week if anyone has it. Talk to u later ~~*Pam*~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 20:31:56 -0500 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: I Kan't Tori Read At 02:37 PM 4/13/99 -0700, Lauren DePhillips wrote: [snip] >I was recently in Germany and bought a snagged a somewhat interesting >cd in a normal chain music store (WOM--world of music). I was >wondering if it is actually worth much. When I first saw it I >thought it was a bootleg since it is obviously not the original but >now I'm pretty sure it's not. The title on the front cover is "I >Kan't Tori Read" (instead of "Y Kan't...). The picture on the front >cover shows tori holding the samuri sword (the same as on the >original release I think but with a different background). It has >the exact same songs as the original "Y Kan't..." I don't that it is >a bootleg because it has the atlantic records symbol on the back >(underneath this it says cover: FKK and on the back it also says >"Produced by Joe Chiccarelli"). The background is white and there >are lyrics printed in gray (the lyrics to Pirates I think). Is this >some kind of reprint? I must confess that I'm not knowledgeable >about this stuff so if anyone can give me even a hint I'd more than >appreciate it. It's a "pirate", a bootleg that tries its hardest to look like the real thing. Why? * The obvious error in the name. I think it's safe to assume that Atlantic, even though they're staffed by a bunch of bleedin' morons, wouldn't let something -that- wrong out. * YKTR has never been reprinted/re-released/etc. Tori won't allow it. * YKTR wasn't released in Europe. If it were, it would've been made on EastWest, not Atlantic. And don't quote me on this last one, but: * IIRC, the catalogue number for this is wrong. They have the catalogue number for the vinyl, not the CD, printed on the label. More information on YKTR, including information on how to tell a real one from a fake one {there are lots out there that try to look like the real deal}, check out the YKTR FAQ at HTH. :) /nad ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:10:22 EDT From: "Sonya Harway" Subject: Re: I Kan't Tori Read When I was in France over the summer, I found an interview with Tori in a magazine, and they had translated into French (duh) and they translated her first album to I Can Tori Read. love, sonya =Thank you for your squirrel= _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 13 Apr 1999 22:10:22 EDT From: "Sonya Harway" Subject: Re: I Kan't Tori Read When I was in France over the summer, I found an interview with Tori in a magazine, and they had translated into French (duh) and they translated her first album to I Can Tori Read. love, sonya =Thank you for your squirrel= _______________________________________________________________ Get Free Email and Do More On The Web. Visit http://www.msn.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #109 *************************************