From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #99 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, April 6 1999 Volume 04 : Number 099 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Perfect Pitch? [Nicole Haddock ] intro and tour question ["beulah girl" ] tour rumors. [Talulagrl1@aol.com] Re: Perfect Pitch? [Talulagrl1@aol.com] Live To Tell [ABallezzi@aol.com] Lissa? ["Heather Parsons" ] Remixes [GoddesKell@aol.com] musing ["beulah girl" ] Re: Perfect Pitch? [HaughtyGrl@aol.com] Bad Tori Humor (Re: Got pitch? ;) [Jeffrey Clark ] Re: Bad Tori Humor (Re: Got pitch? ;) [GonaTwinkl@aol.com] Re: musing [Beth Coulter ] Re: Perfect Pitch? ["Sonya Harway" ] Re: Bad Tori Humor (Re: Got pitch? ;) [Jennifer Lynn Roth ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 00:03:04 -0500 From: Nicole Haddock Subject: Re: Perfect Pitch? At 09:56 AM 4/4/99 -0700, Megasusİ wrote: >Well.... here's the thing. I heard that Tori doesn't even really know - -how- to >read music. Not to jump on the bandwagon about this issue here, but I'm a bit confused by this statement here. Even though Jennifer said >Ear-training, a course >incorporating all aspects of aural (by ear) theory, is offered and >stressed in all good music schools (including Peabody). would someone really go through Peabody for 5 or 6 years and not know how to read sheet music? Nicole ************************** Nicole Haddock Emerson College '00 Video Production Major ************************** My heart is like the ocean It gets so in the way Close to touching freedom Then I hear the guards call my name -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 02:23:13 PDT From: "beulah girl" Subject: intro and tour question hello i'm new to the list and wanted to introduce myself. i can give you a brief history and then i have a question... i was born in massachusetts usa. i grew up in melbourne australia. i lived in new hampshire for most of my teenage years and now i'm a student in melbourne. i enjoy learning about any culture, reading mythology, beautiful music, fine art and laughing. i consider myself an expert at the last. i'm studying film and hope to break into the heavily guarded gates of the industry, as a film maker, not an actor. i adore tori because she's true to the muse and knows how to get me thinking. ok, my question now. if it is true that tori does a short tour throughout the us (even if it is headlining with a more volitile artist) i hope to come to the states to attend as many shows as possible as she keeps missing us down under. i'm wondering if anyone here is a seasoned tour junky and has some tips as to how i might manage my time and money and how i might even make some money while i'm there. if anyone has any tips at all i would appreciate it. i have been out of the loop since dew drop inn and have never ventured on an expanded following. thank you all for your thought wishes and love natalie emma (you can call me either) Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:25:38 EDT From: Talulagrl1@aol.com Subject: tour rumors. the tour rumors are pretty rampant now... you might want to surf through these emails and decide for yourself what you believe. The Dent (Tori Amos) Online Forum - powered b... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 13:35:32 EDT From: Talulagrl1@aol.com Subject: Re: Perfect Pitch? i read that tori played by ear for the first several years of her musical career but when she got accepted into the peabody we have to assume that they thought her to read sheet music...she was trained to be a classical musician...... it might be possible that she has perfect pitch since she was playing by ear at age 5. rachel ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 12:27:56 EDT From: ABallezzi@aol.com Subject: Live To Tell Hi I've recently just been made aware that tori did a cover of madonna's "live to tell". if anyone has a copy or knows where i can find a copy of this, i will be forever grateful (not to mention, i'm willing to pay:)) please e-mail me privately with any info you may have. thank you!! Anna-Marie ABallezzi@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 10:51:17 PDT From: "Heather Parsons" Subject: Lissa? 'ello all, I was trying to send email to Lissa, and every one I send gets sent back to me. Does anyone know if her aol addy is still valid? torigalore@aol.com? If you've had contact with her, and know her new address, or if aol is screwing with my head again, as it has a habit of doing, could you please let me know? Actually, Lissa, if you read this, am I going insane? ;) Thanks. Heather Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 18:52:58 EDT From: GoddesKell@aol.com Subject: Remixes Hi Everyone, I was wondering if anyone had any exceptional remixes of Tori's? I was looking for Father Lucifer, Precious Things, Little Earthquakes, Pretty Good Year, Bells for Her, Cruel, Northern Lad, Not the Red Baron, Marianne, Winter, Happy Phantom, and/or Tear in Your Hand. And if you have any other remixes that are extremly good i would love to hear about those too. Thank you very much. You can e-mail me personally at GoddesKell@AOL.com or URNotGonna@AOL.com. -Kelly ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 04:29:29 PDT From: "beulah girl" Subject: musing Megasus wrote: Well.... here's the thing. I heard that Tori doesn't even really know - -how- to read music. I know that this was true when she was younger, but does anyone know if this is still true? I mean she was brilliant enough to play by ear when she was little so naturally she'd have a resistance to learning to read it. But don't you think she may have learned by now, being exposed to it for more than 30 years? It seems only natural that she would know how to write and read music by this point in her career.Just a musing... natalie emma Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 10:54:08 EDT From: HaughtyGrl@aol.com Subject: Re: Perfect Pitch? <> We also used the term "perfect pitch" when we were tuning our insturments. Some people had no idea if they were too sharp or too flat. Others could tell even the tiniest difference. Those who could tell the difference down to the very last bit had perfect pitch. And I agree with what Becka said about sight reading in the passage above. That's what I always think of when I hear that term. :) vicTORIa ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 07:33:20 -0400 From: Jeffrey Clark Subject: Bad Tori Humor (Re: Got pitch? ;) At 09:12 PM 4/4/99 -0500, you wrote: >have noticed before (being the geek musician I can be sometimes) that Tori >always sings "me and a gun" in the same key, everytime. That is a pretty Tori's gotta have perfect pitch. no matter where I am, or what time it is, when I pop in choirgirl hotel, Tori sings Spark in the same key too! Jeffrey Clark - Systems Coordinator, Sorrow's Sphere ayukawa@twcny.rr.com http://home.twcny.rr.com/alliance ICQ UIN #1361324 "When you sleep, where do your fingers go?" - Cake ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:38:06 EDT From: GonaTwinkl@aol.com Subject: Re: Bad Tori Humor (Re: Got pitch? ;) In a message dated 99-04-05 22:05:38 EDT, ayukawa@twcny.rr.com writes: << Tori sings Spark in the same key too! >> Hehehehe. Yes, that is VERY bad tori humor. I don't want to say that tori doesn't have perfect pitch, because I'm sure it's very possible. But when you sing a song often enough, then you can pick it up and start singing it in the same key and notice if it is not. I'm a singer, and I can do this as well. When you've sung a song so often, you just pick it up and you know it's right. Don't foget tori's done 3 world tours, and she had to do the song plenty the first time due to the lack of setlist songs. ( usually her shows have 16-18 songs) And there a couple bootlegs I have where tori does start a song, stop it, restart it, and stop it again because she thinks she's in the wrong key. But don't colour me shocked if she does have perfect pitch. ~* jo§h ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 21:03:12 -0400 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Re: musing At 04:29 AM 4/5/99 PDT, beulah girl wrote: > >Megasus wrote: >Well.... here's the thing. I heard that Tori doesn't even really know >-how- to >read music. >I know that this was true when she was younger, but does anyone know if >this is still true? 4 words people: "Y Kan't Tori Read". She started playing "by ear" at two & a half. She can read music but preferred to do it *her* way. She was quoted saying something about Bach and Mozart appriciating what she was doing to their songs. All of this info can be found in the biography "All These Years". Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** *~**Fairy Blessings**~* ~~ tori trades and really deep thoughts~ a proud member of the Tori Traders Ring updated at least monthly http://www.angelfire.com/pa/bethey/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:54:23 EDT From: "Sonya Harway" Subject: Re: Perfect Pitch? I have perfect pitch, and like someone said, I am a piano player. Now we all know what it is, but I have a couple of opposing opinions. It is not useful, it is not that cool, and it hardly ever comes in handy. Skilled musicians almost always have relative pitch, so whatever song Tori ends on before Me and A Gun, she can just use relative pitch to get to the note. I think she's probably got pretty good pitch memory too, which means she can end a song, tell a cute story, and then remember the pitch she ended on and get to the right note. I heard a really funny story on NPR the other day telling what a nuisance perfect pitch is. Another point, there are different types of perfect pitch. Somepeople can only recognize notes within their singing range, or only notes on certain instruments, and then some people can recognize the pitch of a tea kettle or dogs barking. As for "learning" perfect pitch, it is debateable whether one can do that. Some professors swear thet every one has the ability to do it, but some say that it's just a select few. Who knows? It's not that cool to have. love, sonya =Thank you for your squirrel= Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:27:12 -0500 (EST) From: Jennifer Lynn Roth Subject: Re: Bad Tori Humor (Re: Got pitch? ;) Sorry to post AGAIN on the same subject, but it is possible to sing a song in the same key everytime you do it. Esp with a song like Spark where there's instruments backing you up. It is easy to memorize pitches without having perfect pitch. All singers do it. Also, all one needs is a note to start a song, any note, even if it is a note from the last song played. ANYTHING can be a jumping off point. This doesn't necessarily denote perfect pitch. Perfect pitch is rare and very special. Like I said before, if Tori has it, I'm sure we'd have heard about it. It is NOT possible to have it and not know it. Jenn On Mon, 5 Apr 1999, Jeffrey Clark wrote: > > At 09:12 PM 4/4/99 -0500, you wrote: > >have noticed before (being the geek musician I can be sometimes) that Tori > >always sings "me and a gun" in the same key, everytime. That is a pretty > > Tori's gotta have perfect pitch. no matter where I am, or what time it is, > when I pop in choirgirl hotel, Tori sings Spark in the same key too! > Jeffrey Clark - Systems Coordinator, Sorrow's Sphere > ayukawa@twcny.rr.com > http://home.twcny.rr.com/alliance > ICQ UIN #1361324 > > "When you sleep, where do your fingers go?" - Cake > ******************************************************************************* Jennifer Roth Soprano 421 Hoosier Court Ave. Indiana University Bloomington, IN 47404 School of Music (812)333-2287 Basilikus@aol.com ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Apr 1999 22:23:22 -0500 (EST) From: Jennifer Lynn Roth Subject: Re: Perfect Pitch? You can't get through years of music training in a conservatory without learning how to read music, there are plenty of exams where you CANNOT get away without reading it - including sight-reading so obviously Tori CAN read music. Plus, she writes her own, doesn't hire someone else to do it like Andrew Lloyd Webber does, and we have to know how to read before we can write, right? On Tue, 16 Feb 1999, Nicole Haddock wrote: > > At 09:56 AM 4/4/99 -0700, Megasusİ wrote: > > >Well.... here's the thing. I heard that Tori doesn't even really know > -how- to > >read music. > > Not to jump on the bandwagon about this issue here, but I'm a bit confused > by this statement here. Even though Jennifer said >Ear-training, a course > >incorporating all aspects of aural (by ear) theory, is offered and > >stressed in all good music schools (including Peabody). > would someone really go through Peabody for 5 or 6 years and not know how > to read sheet music? > > Nicole > > > ************************** > Nicole Haddock > Emerson College '00 > Video Production Major > ************************** > My heart is like the ocean > It gets so in the way > Close to touching freedom > Then I hear the guards call my name > -Tori Amos > ******************************************************************************* Jennifer Roth Soprano 421 Hoosier Court Ave. Indiana University Bloomington, IN 47404 School of Music (812)333-2287 Basilikus@aol.com ******************************************************************************* ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #99 ************************************