From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #74 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, March 15 1999 Volume 04 : Number 074 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: choirgirl font [Margaret ] Re: Horses and Crucify [Thisbe5716@aol.com] TRL ["Shaigirl 19/f" ] Re: Tori Amos on TRL [Freque79@aol.com] Joe & Mariyln & Tori's growing popularity.... [Cindy2Love@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 00:28:43 -0500 From: Margaret Subject: Re: choirgirl font Wow! I feel like I've been missing out on the whole font world... I just figured out how to download them! I'm a little computer slow... anyways if you guys get that to work out it would be so cool! margaret ps- know of any really cool font sites? >wow, what a great idea!! I'm also a font freak - I have 1,007 fonts on my >computer. I'll look around for it. >we can always scan it and make our own font --- I'm sure it's possible >although I have never done anything like that. > >~~* joanne > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 00:48:16 EST From: Thisbe5716@aol.com Subject: Re: Horses and Crucify <> BfP was definitely my least favorite Tori album too. Then, one day, I threw it in my computer while I was working and hit "random" play. It was like a completely different album! I know it sounds stupid, but try listening to it out of order. I'll bet it will make a difference! Amy ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Mar 1999 23:35:40 PST From: "Shaigirl 19/f" Subject: TRL Jesus Christ people... apparently I spoke the wrong three letters to you all. It's obvious that you guys seem to think Tori is just for you and nobody else. Well guess what? You're not the only ones out there to listen to and appreciate her music. I'm sick of reading these responses talking about how Tori doesn't belong on MTV, blah blah blah. Who says? You know how snobbish that is of you? Let other people enjoy her, too. I bet there's another whole EWF world out there that would fall in love with Tori just like you and I have... if only they heard her music. I still meet people that have never heard of her and I play her music for them, and then they go out and buy a cd of hers and tell me "thank you" for introducing them to her. Grow up and spread the love. Don't be selfish and keep Tori in the closet. Just for you all out there that are SO against Tori on TRL. Screw it. I'm not even going to mess with it anymore. But I tell you what... if she ever does make it on there... I don't want to hear anyone bitching about it. Top ten in charts of pain ~ Shaigirl Shaigirl 19/f * shaigirl79@hotmail.com AOL IM: Shaigirl79 * ICQ#: 7032035 My So-Called Life * http://glenmar.com/~mmb **~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~** "So don't give me respect don't give me a piece of your preciousness... I can be cruel I don't know why." -Tori Amos "I'm like a cat... the kind that feels what she decides to feel when she's good and ready to feel it." -Ani Difranco Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 00:44:51 EST From: Freque79@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori Amos on TRL In a message dated 3/13/99 11:15:54 PM Central Standard Time, XXXPandora@aol.com writes: > I am not being exclusionary - I'm just saying that the people who watch TRL > are not the people who will understand Tori - these people would probably > have > to use a dictionary just to be able to sing the songs -- I agree that we > should be open-minded to the people who have just recently discovered Tori - - > because everyone has to start somewhere - but these are not the people that > Tori wants to reach and they will never really discover Tori. I mean can you > imagine one of these little poseur girls sitting down for hours and bawling > her eyes out because she just figured out the meaning to Yes, Anastasia?? I > think not. Mtv is not a place where tori is welcome and I am grateful for > that. I know this will sound really extremely rude but: Think before you type. *I* have been known to watch TRL once in a while, and I Tori is my favorite musician in the whole wide world, and has been since I was 14 (5 years ago). I don't make a point of watching it all the time. I don't watch very much tv. I generally have it on as background noise while I am doing something else, but it's still on. I've read all the discussions in all the places where this has come up (and believe me, it is very common, and there have been rabid arguments about, and I feel this one might be going there), and I always agree with the people who think Tori is free to anyone who will listen. If some of the people who watch TRL saw Tori, and didn't like her, that's fine with me. But you have to understand that there's going to be SOMEONE who sees it and has an epiphany, and becomes the next big Tori fan. Tori has changed so many people's lives in such wonderful ways that I think it would be heartless to exclude new people from that experience. Just think about all the girls, boys, men, and women who could relate to Tori just like you or I do, but haven't had the chance yet, because they haven't been exposed to her. And I for one could not care less if Tori does attract a following of people who don't relate to her music, but still love the sound. Fans are fans. None of us is better than any of her other fans, whether we have listened to her for 8 years, or just found out about her, whether we listen to her music and feel something deeper than any other musician or artist has been able to give us, or we just think she has a beautiful voice and a unique sound. I know that some people will disagree with me, and that's fine, but, and this has been said, I think that is a really selfish attitude. Ciao, Mairie http://members.xoom.com/pianoqueen/ Ode to the Piano Queen ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Mar 1999 12:00:58 EST From: Cindy2Love@aol.com Subject: Joe & Mariyln & Tori's growing popularity.... >joe died today....he was 84...he and marilyn will finally be together. >no more bringing flowers to marilyn's grave.. I know this is late, but *does joe bring flowers to marilyn's grave* are like some of my favorite tori lines ever... I remember in January of 1996 when I went out and bought the album the day it came out and I was driving home with my friend and I was just reading the lyric book over and over and I came across that line and I thought 'who the heck are joe and mariyln?' Neighbors or friends of Tori? Yes, I'm ignorant. I know... So approximately one year later in January of 1997 I took a trip to Idaho to visit my friend at college and I was just looking out the window of the car and I saw a billboard for some baseball advertisement and there was a picture of Joe Dimaggio hugging Marilyn Monroe and all of sudden it clicked and I just started totally crying because I thought that was like the saddest line ever..... My friends told me I needed help... Anyway I dug up a little information for those of you who didn't know much about the lines *does joe bring flowers to marilyn's grave* like me... Joe DiMaggio had expressed a desire to meet this famous star after seeing a picture of her posed at a baseball plate. In early 1952, Marilyn met baseball hero Joe DiMaggio, retired baseball great, and a passionate romance ignited. On January 14, Joe and Marilyn were married. The wedding captured the headlines worldwide. Joe was an extremely jealous type of guy and resented her popularity among other men. He desired a housewife, not a star of such magnitude, the marriage was in trouble from the beginning. During the wedding Marilyn carried three orchids, and when they quickly withered in the heat, she asked Joe , if she died before you, would you place flowers at my grave every week, as William Powell had done for Jean Harlow. The star Marilyn was most often compared to and who she admired. Joe promised he would. After just a couple of weeks, the marriage seemed to go wrong; during their honeymoon in the Far East, Joe was less than enthusiastic about Marilyn going to Korea to entertain our troops. She entertained over 60,000 soldiers, many whom had never seen a Monroe Monroe film, having been in the service during her rise to stardom. Up to this point, most had seen still photos of her in magazines and newspapers, but that way mostly it. She was a huge success. Joe did not accompany her on this trip explained Marilyn, " Joe hates crowds and glamour." A saddened Joe DiMaggio made arrangements for the funeral, inviting no one from the Hollywood, but only close friends and relatives. "They had only hurt Marilyn" he said. This included attorney general Bobby Kennedy and the infamous Rat Pack of they enjoyed the company of: Frank Sinatra, Dean Martin, Sammy Davis, Jr., Peter Lawford and Joey Bishop.  For over 20 years flowers were delivered weekly to her crypt from Joe, just as he had promised Marilyn when she  told him of William Powell's pledge to the dying Jean Harlow. Some of Marylin's Quotes... "Hollywood is a place where they'll pay you a thousand dollars for a kiss and fifty cents for your soul" "I knew I belonged to the public and to the world, not because I was talented or even beautiful, but because I had never belonged to anything or anyone else." ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >i agree completly. this whole sentiment about trying to keep tori from >mainstream listeners really bugs me. i think thats really quite selfish and >immature of a lot of you. i wont vote her on total request live because i >reallly disklike the show, but other than that, i would see no real reason not >to. I'm selfish and immature. I don't want Tori to become popular either. I will never vote for her to be on Total Request Live. The show sickens me and for Tori to be on there would be a disgrace. Oh god if what happened to Sarah McLachlan happens to Tori I think that would be horrible.... Little Earthquakes changed my life in February of 1992....I was only 14 years old and it just made me feel special that I liked her and nobody really knew anything about her... So I feel bad that I feel this way, but if everybody likes her like NYSYNC or Puff Daddy then there won't be anymore specialness... But to be honest, it doesn't keep me awake at night because I don't think she'll ever be that popular.. And not to be pessimistic but I really don't think TRL is gonna happen.. Do you know how many NSYNC fans there are out there? It's crazy... Okay go ahead and flame me, but a grrrl is entitled to an opinion.. Love ya much, *Cindy* ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #74 ************************************