From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V4 #20 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, January 21 1999 Volume 04 : Number 020 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Tori on BioRhythm [EvilTori@aol.com] Re: precious-things-digest V4 #17 [Amy M Belden ] Looking for some Plugged '98 video boots :) ["Julia K." ] Re:empty cage [The Great Gatsby ] Pandora other last songs... [Little Water Nymph ] icicle, hey jupiter video ["Erin Martin" ] my own lil tori healing [Sarah ] Log from People Online's Chat with Tori on AOL [Freque79@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:38:14 EST From: EvilTori@aol.com Subject: Tori on BioRhythm Tonight, that BioRhythm thing on MTV was on, and it was the one with Busta Rhymes, and it said his story was told through the music of, among other, Tori Amos...So I watched the whole thing just to hear the Tori =) Thought it was neat..This was the second time I'd seen this particular show, so I'm sure it'll be on again if there is anyone out there who is an anal completist... Robyn ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 Jan 1999 23:53:31 -0800 (PST) From: Amy M Belden Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V4 #17 Subject: Re: Tori earrings... I seem to have missed the first posting about Tori's earrings. Could someone tell me if those are the earrings which are little hoops with a circular-shaped metal thing dangling from them? Could someone direct me to a picture of them on the internet? If the earrings I just described are the ones under discussion, then I have seen Tori in them as late as in Pennsylvania on the Plugged '98 Tour. Anyway, please correct me if I am wrong. Thanks! Amy, the choirgirl :) - -- Amy M Belden ubelda00@umail.ucsb.edu ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 05:35:32 GMT From: "Julia K." Subject: Looking for some Plugged '98 video boots :) Hi everyone, Well, like the subject says, I'm looking for some Plugged '98 boot videos. If anyone has any good, clear boot videos from any of the dates on the Plugged '98 tour, I'd be more than happy to trade one of my videos for it. I have only the following dates on video so far (they're excellent quality though): Electric factory, Philly, PA 26/04/98 Phoenix Concert Theatre, Toronto, ON, 28/04/98 Moore theatre, Seattle, WA 03/05/98 and I have two from the UTP tour also (Massey hall, Toronto, ON and Symphony Space, New York, NY). Sooo, if anyone could help me out I'd be very grateful :) I could trade other stuff for the videos also, audio boots, tv appearances, you name it, I'll try and see if I've got it. You can reach me at blackdovegirl@hotmail.com Thanks alot, Julia :) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 10:38:15 -0500 From: Anne Subject: Re: empty cage my 2 cents :) I actually think of it as you as a person, your an empty cage if you kill your passion in life, Crucify to me is when you crucify yourself by denying pleasure to yourself or deny fulfilling your dreams because of some maschostic thing we as a society have come to accept in recent years. That we think we deserve to be miserable so everyday we crucify ourselves by going to work in jobs we may not like, doing things we don't want to do because we feel we deserve to be unhappy. That's how I always saw that line and the song *shrug* - -Anne Rob wrote: I always thought it was about Christianity. That the bird was Jesus and so it's an empty religion. But now I'm kind of thinking it's more about the person as a whole. That if you kill your spirit, that you're basically just walking around without a purpose, that you're an empty cage if you kill the bird. Just my 2 cents. Anyone else's opinion? ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 00:43:37 -0600 From: The Great Gatsby Subject: Re:empty cage My interpretation was that the bird cage represents our bodies, and the bird is our spirit, soul, whatever you call it. If you kill the bird, you're just an empty cage, an empty shell. If you stop loving, stop wanting to learn and see things and be alive and live, you are an empty cage. G always thought that empty cage was a refrence to... "i know why the cage bird sings" anyone want to support or deny this... thanks rachel.... <> ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 09:57:28 -0800 (PST) From: Little Water Nymph Subject: Pandora other last songs... I just want to throw this question out there because I've been thinking about it for a bit and I cant come up with a somewhat logical answer (ha! whatever logical is...), so I thought I'd throw it out to the list. I'm interested to see what some people think: Tori has said that "Pandora's Aquarium" was the first song to come to her when writing for FTCH. Why do you think she made Pandora appear last on the record? Also, I think this may just be me, but I was thinking about the last songs on each of Tori's album and they almost work like a predictor for what the next album is about...bear with me on this, my disclaimer is that I'm probably just over analyzing this... ok. The last song on Little Earthquakes is Little Earthquakes. I think its kinda about theres all this crap but it takes the small things to make us break down and it happens every so often and about the whole need to find yourself and what you're really about...and then we have the next record Under The Pink...which, ok...please bear with me and thanks for reading this so far :O) ok...UtP deals with less...not less serious issues, it DOES deal with serious issues, but a different kind of serious issues...relationships, girls, all that. besides dealing with the raw stuff (like LE stuff) in order to find yourself and what you're all about you still have to deal with all the other stuff...UtP stuff. ok. now the last song on UtP is Yes, Anastasia. It's not necessarily a side-step to the meaning of UtP but its completely different than any of the other songs on the record. It has more of that raw stuff, more of geting down to core desperate feeling to it that we see in Boys For Pele...the next record. Ok, now, Tori has said that BfP is one of the most depressing things she has ever produced...depressing or not, its still pure genuiss and wonderful. theres some energy behind it, but still behind all that energy theres still that core pull, that core survival, and that core rawness that is so evident in Yes Anastasia... the last song on BfP is Twinkle. a lot of people might disagree with me, but in a way, i have always interpreted Twinkle as a song about Death...not just the bad part of death but the ok part of death and all that. i am totally not trying to say that is completely about death, but its one possible interpretation and if we use that interpretation, then you can see the connection to the next record >From the ChoirGirl Hotel which essentially deals with Death among other things... So anyways, these are just some things Ive noticed about the last songs on Tori's major records...im really interested to see if people agree or disagree to what I came up with and what else they have to say about the last songs on Tori's records... Thanks for reading all that, if you did! Heidi == *********************************************************** "You were wild, where are you now?" ~Tori Amos~ "Still, it was much easier not to believe in something when it was not actually looking directly at you and saying your name." ~Neil Gaiman~ *********************************************************** _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 20:22:46 -0500 From: "Erin Martin" Subject: icicle, hey jupiter video Hey! I had a couple thoughts on Icicle and on the hey Jupiter video. On Icicle, I've always thought the line "when spring marches in" refers to flowered dresses old ladies wear when entering church or the house. I could be missing a more graphic meaning, but that's what I think. Has anybody ever thought about Edie Sedgwick and the hey Jupiter video? I read a book about Edie a few months ago (_EDIE_ was the title) and I see a few connections. I don't think I remember all that much, but I know Edie was in several hotel fires. Actually, I'm thinking she may have started at least one. The most famous was the Chelsea Hotel fire, like in '62 where Edie stayed in her room for a long time. But she always wore a lot of eye makeup and rode everywhere in limos. I don't remember any reference to a child or any of that in the book, but I need to reread it anyway. :) If somebody remembers more than I do they may be able to support or refute my theory... Erin ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 19:46:11 -0800 (PST) From: Sarah Subject: my own lil tori healing Ok, i'm having a psycho-stessed out time! today i felt like i was having a nervous breakdown. i just moved back to my old town after being gone for 2 months and i just went back to my highschool yesterday. i had transferred to another school and everything was going great sorta until my mom wanted to move back. now i'm back at my old school and i'm so behind and confused. basically overwhelmed. i have to read moby dick, write a ten page research paper, and try to do make-up work to catch up in my classes all by tuesday. ok i don't deal with pressure well sometimes but i am a procrastinator and i always have to deal with it cuz i'm in all those way too hard for your own good classes and i got the expectations and shit. high school can be a real drag when you're trying to keep your gpa up for scholarships and grants. well to the point (i'm babbling i tend to do that). i just said fuck it and went to indulge in some tori and it really calmed me. such a release sometimes. tori also helped me sleep when i had insomnia a few years ago after the death of my real dad. sorry but i thought i'd share this with someone cuz i feel so much better now. ~~sarah~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "i'm ok when everything's not ok" "why do i crucify myself...nothing i do is good enough for you" ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 20 Jan 1999 22:56:58 EST From: Freque79@aol.com Subject: Log from People Online's Chat with Tori on AOL Hey! This is the log from the chat tonight. Someone else may have already sent it... I editted it a little. I didn't change any of what she said, but since she only had a few words for each message she sent, i merged it together so it flows better. The questions they asked her were pretty inane and we didn't really learn any new information. Oh well... Mairie http://members.tripod.com/~raspberryswirl/ Ode to the Piano Queen ______________________________________________________________________ Question: Out of all your records, what is your favorite one to make? ToriALive: That's sort of like asking what baby you liked making best. I have 5 babies, and if I say one, then the other record kids are gonna get jealous. Possibly strangling me during the night. Question: Are you planing on touring soon? ToriALive: Definetly not. I'm eating licorice right now, drinking green tea out of a Japanese cup sitting outside. I miss this part of touring. We would be taking the stage right now. I miss that relationship with the people that came to see and hear the music. But other than that, I'm feeling like I need to create at the piano. Touring is very external, recording and writing is internal and I have to keep going back and forth between both to keep the scales of Libra in some sort of balance for myself. It's really important I think that you have a balance of both because they feed each other. The energy that I get playing live propels me into a deep well, inside somewhere that I probably couldn't get to with out the shows. PeopMagMC1: For those of you just joining us, we're talking to Tori Amos. Question: how many years have you been playing? ToriALive: Since I was 2 1/2. Long [enough?] to get gigbutt. PeopMagMC1: We've had a number of questions along this line... Question: Do the fans of yours get annoying? ToriALive: I guess anyone can be annoying. I know that I annoy people sometimes, particularly my friend Beenie. When I won't let her eat sugar. Once in a while, of course there's gonna be someone that pushes something too far. But....I can also find that at a family Christmas dinner. So, a sense of humor is really important. You can't take things too personally. I don't think people really mean to be a pain. I know I don't mean to be one when I'm being one. PeopMagMC1: One other person online put the question this way: PeopMagMC1: What part of being famous sucks the most? ToriALive: When you walk into a drug store for example, and you just need to get some girl stuff, and you're sitting there with a kinda cute cashier boy person, having you do an autograph over your sanitary napkins for his girlfriend. You just don't wanna get that close. Question: Who are your influences? ToriALive: That's so boring. Also....what I ate that day. PeopMagMC1: Let's try another one then... Question: Where is one place in the world that you would like to visit before you die? ToriALive: ToriALive: Thailand is calling me. I had a long lay over in the Bangkok airport and I was drawn to get out of the city and get deeper into the country. I'm actually going there before I make the next work. PeopMagMC1: For those of you just joining us, we're talking to Tori Amos. Question: DONT YOU SOMETIMES GET SO TIRED AND WANT TO GIVE IT UP ToriALive: I get tired of having to remind myself that this is a funny time in the industry. This is a time where a lot of people that make music don't really sing right or play anything musical. So, you have to remind yourself who are you serving, are you serving the muse or the collective. I mean that as the collective consciousness. When you serve the collective, you start walking into fast food territory. I have moments of fast food cravings so obviously yes, there is a place for that. But artists have to be clear on are you making something for the quick hit, the quick reaction, or are you trying to create something that burns in your soul. whatever rejections you get from the collective or the industry. Everyone else is standing around you with a raincoat on. So, I get tired when I get negative and what I need to do is see the diversity and then gain strength again. Question: What makes you happy? ToriALive: Tricky question. But, I think investigating my little lies. Question: What were you like in high school? ToriALive: No boundaries. PeopMagMC1: mine [I don't know what this is... PeopMagMC1 just said that then] ToriALive: I couldn't say no if a mosquito wanted to nest in my bushes. Question: Is is hard to write songs all of the time? ToriALive: I don't write songs all the time. There are dry spells as a writer for me anyway. When it isn't kinda creative time, you have to almost, if you can imagine, you're a huntress, but you can't chase the songs down. Right now I'm hangning with some girlfriends on the water and it's warm. I guess you could say I'm writing all the time. It's not like you seperate writing time from other times, your writing is your life. Even when Beenie's telling a dirty joke, on some level your pores are drinking that in. The way she told it, the honey suckle is winding around and you can almost touch it with your tongue. It's almost like breathing when the songs come. You can't control when they decide to come out. Question: You say that you find a girlfriend on what you have in common with them, how do you meet strangers that are out of the celebrity cliche? ToriALive: I don't hang out with many celebs on a regular basis. I'm a very close circle. I think I'm really hard to get to know on a personal level. I have a few close friends, but not many. I think it takes patience to really let a friendship bloom and blossom. I think my closest friends have always been the pianos. I always turn to them. Spend a lot of time with them..... PeopMagMC1: Speaking of pianos... Question: Question for Tori? How, Where and When, did you discover the Bosendorfer -vs -Steinway,Walter,Baldwin etc.. What did this piano bring to you, that another did not? Thanks MB ToriALive: I played a Bosendorfer when I was little. I felt a difference in the presence of this instrument. It was like it had a ghost protecting it. Sometimes it was sinister, others alluring. It was like the soul of it came from the underworld. I've played some Steins that I've had a relationship with For the most part, the Bosendorfers are hand made, you get the personality of the maker. It gives you more stuff to work with as aplayer. They're live things, they really are. PeopMagMC1: We're going to have to wrap things up...any closing thoughts? What are you working on now? ToriALive: We go into the studio the end of Feb. and start putting the live part of the double box set together. The guys are gonna fly out and work with me and the tech crew I work with on putting part of the second CD together. It includes B sides and some others you can't get anymore. There'll be songs that I kept, that I wasn't ready to finish. It's got a lot of different things on it, it'll be out Christmas 99. I haven't decided what to call it yet. OnlineHost: ToriALive has left the room. PeopMagMC1: Thanks, Tori, for joining us tonight. It's been a pleasure for all of us to talk to you. And thanks to our audience for all your great questions. For those of you who missed any of this chat, you can read it tomorrow when People Online's site officially launches. Just go to keyword: People. Once again, thanks to Tori, and to everyone in our audience. And we hope to see you all on Friday, when People talks to Stone Cold Steve Austin. That's at 9pm ET on Friday. Be there! Or we'll send him after you! OnlineHost: Copyright 1999 America Online, Inc. All Rights Reserved. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V4 #20 ************************************