From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #444 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, December 31 1998 Volume 03 : Number 444 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Calanders?? [Cdfreke@aol.com] Angie Live [Natalie Waag ] dowloading, websites ["Erin Martin" ] Little Earthquakes video question. ["me in the corner" ] Tori in Entertainment Today ["K. Fischer" ] Re: skeeter ["Pandora ~" ] question about lyrics [RasinGirl6@aol.com] Re: Little Earthquakes video question. [Alactor@aol.com] files from ftp.tal.org [Abbe J Cohen ] Spark and other nonsensical business [Bobdel123@aol.com] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 22:52:38 EST From: Cdfreke@aol.com Subject: Calanders?? where do you find tori calanders? on the web? at local stores? i don't have a Hot Topic in my area and so far the only thing i've seen is the Spin Calander not enough the "offical" tori calander was displayed on LA and i wanna get one but how do i get that one or another full tori calander toodles matt the merman ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 12:33:11 +0100 From: Natalie Waag Subject: Angie Live Hi Does anyone have a live version mp3 of Angie (with good sound quality) or know of a site that has it, then pretty please, could you mail me and let me know. We could trade or smth. Email me privately please. Thanks. Natalie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 15:25:08 -0500 From: "Erin Martin" Subject: dowloading, websites Hi! I've been trying to get to the ftp.tal.org website and I'm having some trouble downloading stuff b/c it's always asking for login and password. Can somebody help me out on this? Also, I've been looking for a couple sites that I haven't been able to connect to. There was one of EWF w/ ICQ and their numbers, can anybody tell me about where this is? I'm also looking for It's Got to Be Big-I followed Mikewhy's link and I got a "forbidden" message. Any help would be great, thanks! Erin ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:52:32 -0700 From: "me in the corner" Subject: Little Earthquakes video question. Okay, first of all I'm new so please be gentle. I have a question concerning a quote from the Little Earthquakes video. As you all know, I'm sure, right before Precious Things, she says: "As a performer, I work as a mirror so whatever your giving me, I give it back to you tenfold cause that's how mirrors can work. When all this love is coming to you, and all this projection is coming to you, and all this stuff is coming to you, what an audience really is doing is--they wanna give to themselves. Performers do have this power. They can keep what you're giving them, and not give it back. It's ___. You can stop the wheel. You have to keep the wheel going which is intake, outtake." I've had the video for close to a year and I still haven't figured out what she says "it" is. Maybe I'm stupid but I can't understand what she says. Thank you bunches me the girl in the corner with her pen get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 20:54:38 PST From: "Shaigirl 19/f" Subject: Tori MP3s & CD-Rs Okay, it's me again... with another question about MP3s! Expect this time it envolves CD-Rs! Okay, now I asked you fine people if anyone knew of any good Tori MP3 sites and you replied with "The Force of Tori" Thank you *very* much! Those of you who suggested that site were correct! I found *several* songs I've never heard before. Well you see... for Christmas, my parents got me an HP CD-Writer Plus so like now I can burn my own cds. I had a friend tell me I should d/l some MP3s and make my own CDs. Does anybody have any info on this or even exprience that could help me out here? I have WINAMP and I've already d/l'd several Tori MP3s, but I need to know how to get them burned on a CD! Thanks to any and all that can help me out here! Forever in Toriness ~ Shaigirl "So don't give me respect don't give me a piece of your preciousness... I can be cruel I don't know why." -Tori **~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~**~** Shaigirl 19/f * shaigirl79@hotmail.com http://glenmar.com/~mmb AOL IM: Vampgirl79 * ICQ#: 7032035 ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 21:18:38 -0800 (PST) From: "K. Fischer" Subject: Tori in Entertainment Today Found this in my mailbox today and saw it mentioned Tori and RAINN. Karin __________________________________________________________________________ > > > ENTERTAINMENT-TODAY > From Hollywood to Broadway...what's happening in show biz...from UPI. > --- > Tori Amos, Katie Couric and Ellen Degeneres are among those on the > Iris Cantor-UCLA Women's Health Education and Resource Center's first > annual top-10 list of celebrity women who've been boosters of women's > health issues in 1998. > Amos was named for co-founding the Rape, Abuse, and Incest Network > hotline...Couric, for raising awareness about colon cancer which claimed > her husband's life this year...and Degeneres, for raising awareness of > lesbian issues through her TV sitcom. > The list also names athlete Peggy Fleming and talk show host Rosie > O'Donnell for their work on breast cancer awareness...actress Cybill > Shepherd for tackling menopause issues...singer Shania Twain for > domestic violence awareness...actress Mary Tyler Moore for juvenile > diabetes...and musician Tionne "T-Boz" Watkins for being the first > celebrity spokesperson for sickle cell disease. > (Thanks to UPI's Tracy Venegas in Los Angeles) > --- > Copyright 1998 by United Press International. > All rights reserved. > > > > Copyright 1998 by United Press International > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 29 Dec 1998 23:02:59 PST From: "Pandora ~" Subject: Re: skeeter Okay from what I hear I figure skeeter might have something to do with the baby. But with the skeeter & honeysuckle vine thing. I think it might have something to do with mosquitos. I know this sounds stupid but in the Honeysuckle patch behing my house there are always tons of mosquitos. And they make that hummy noise. And people do call them skeeter's. Well just a psychotic point of view. Evil Poptarts,Demonic Mashed Potatoes,and Promiscuous Grilled Cheese, Pandora(GODDESS) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 19:31:43 EST From: RasinGirl6@aol.com Subject: question about lyrics sorry to ask a probably silly question, but ive heard tori mention on a number of occasians in her songs "molassas" what is it? thanks! torifan ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 17:18:43 EST From: Alactor@aol.com Subject: Re: Little Earthquakes video question. In a message dated 12/30/98 5:50:38PM, comfortably.numb@gurlmail.com wrote: >It's ___. You can stop the wheel. You have to keep the wheel going which is >intake, outtake." > >I've had the video for close to a year and I still haven't figured out what she >says "it" is. Maybe I'm stupid but I can't understand what she says. "It's how you think." Alex (yeah, it's a one liner, but a *helpful* one liner ;) ) ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 18:36:35 -0500 (EST) From: Abbe J Cohen Subject: files from ftp.tal.org Back in the day, there was no web and no Mosaic and no Netscape and definitely no Internet Exploder. You could only get tori files like pictures and mpegs via ftp (there were no MP3's either =). What you would do is: ftp to ftp.tal.org (or some other FTP site of choice) using the FTP command in Unix or an FTP client on a PC or a Mac type in "anonymous" at the login prompt type in your e-mail address at the password prompt and then type some commands such as "cd /pub/toriamos" to go to the place where the tori files were, "ls" to see the files in /pub/toriamos, and "get" to get them. to see the files that were there and get the ones you wanted. Most web browsers can talk to ftp sites too, instead of a url like http://www.tal.org, you can go to the ftp site directly by ftp://ftp.tal.org, and then your browser takes care of the login/password stuff and gives you a list of the files in the directory you're in. It looks like the FTP site on tal.org, when you get to it by clicking on links from www.tal.org to Tori to FTP, is a little different. There are some magic scripts that my browser can't run that I think would give you the login and password and then give you a prettier interface to the files on the ftp server; if your browser can't run them either you ll get another link to click on which points to ftp://ftp.tal.org" and gives you the list I described above. anyway, the short answer is: if it asks you for a login and password and it's an FTP site, try typing in "anonymous" and your email address. - --Abbe ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 30 Dec 1998 20:06:48 EST From: Bobdel123@aol.com Subject: Spark and other nonsensical business hey there everyone i haven't posted in quite awhile and I have missed you guys. so anyway the whole list talking about spark has triggered my mind to start its gears agoing again. so this is my theory on spark the video anyway. so the video starts with her just lying on the ground right. so this could just be her lyign there but i thikn it has to do with the whole shock of the baby kinda you know knocking her out. people don't usually just lay on the ground so the baby knocks her everyday life out of whack. okay so she gets up and she's off. well did anyone else notice that she is only wearign one boot. well she runs into the woods and she looses the one boot. well this is one of the many in my mind symbols of the loss of the baby. so she falls alot in the video too so i think that this is the effect of the baby being lost on her everyday life like her laying down in the woods. anyway she runs by a tree and grazes her hand on it and it spells skeeter. she lets go and keeps going. this i think is a combo. her grandfather was really into nature and she lost him. well she lost the baby and isn't it crazy that the tree has maybe i think a name for the baby on it. welll anyway. her grandfather has alot to do with the video i think with all the refrences to nature like the frog jumping and all the bugs at the begining. so she goes on. her being tied up and blind folded is the symbol her not being able to escape the "circus" she is in. when she looses the blind fold she is about to go unber water i think or she is under. well she looses the rope and the blindfold when she goes under. this is her going to florida the escape of the ties that bound her to the baby. water is a purifying agent so it cleanses her. she is free to look and touch things as she normally would. okay so she runs some more. the hawk is her grandfather always watching her and being there for her. well did anyone else notice the initials on the cufflinks of the guy chashing her. well they are jw john witherspoon her tour manager. he is chasing and persisting and making her work and she is just going and trying to please him the running. so he is stopped when the car blows up which is again another symbol for the loss of the baby. so anyway she gets to road and she meets the people. they just sit quietly and stare then drive away. i think these are hte fans. we sit back blindly not noticing what she is sacrificing to please us and we are sked for help and just don't know how to aid and we just leave. not saying we don't help tori but that we don't help people like tori says to by loving everyone no matter how hard. its kinda christ liek huh. anyway so she turns and her hands are bleeding. thos os another symbol of the loss of the baby. so yeah she doesn't free her hads so sorry guys forget that but she can see thats the main point. so there you go guys sorry its so long but i had to do it. its not the best but i liek it. all love in tori the raspberry swirl boy ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #444 *************************************