From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #366 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, October 20 1998 Volume 03 : Number 366 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: shows in ct? [pauly on the shore ] God Remixes?? [PRTCLMAGIC@aol.com] rolling stones posters..... [be witched ] Raleigh Set List ["Heather Parsons" ] Rolling Stone Poster/ Shepherd [Ray ] numbers / song discussion [ToriBoi@aol.com] The Raleigh Show ["Heather Parsons" ] Re: numbers / song discussion [Richard Handal ] the Raleigh Concert [Cdfreke@aol.com] what does faeries mean? [FlyaPlain@aol.com] tori in nashville [Ulini852@aol.com] Tori was at my wedding ["Daisy Dead Petals" ] Bethlehem Concert [Beth Coulter ] Re: numbers / song discussion [Keith Shapiro ] Re: what does faeries mean? ["The Strangest Angel" ] HELP! [Sheri Neumoyer ] Tori News from RDT [Greg Burrell ] Re: rolling stones posters..... ["K. Fischer" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:45:47 -0400 From: pauly on the shore Subject: Re: shows in ct? also sprach **Danielle** *: >does anyone now any definite info. on the shows in ct? the hartford courant made mention of the show at the gampel pavillion, but no ticket information is available yet. keep your ears and eyes peeled. +w ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 00:25:43 EDT From: PRTCLMAGIC@aol.com Subject: God Remixes?? *God* can you hear me?? Can anyone tell me? how hard it is? to find the God Remixes? on cd?? kristina?? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 11:36:36 -0700 (PDT) From: be witched Subject: rolling stones posters..... ON the rolling stones posters.... in some of the magazines there is a form that you can fill out and mail in. At least that is how I did it once. Dani(elle) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 20:55:49 PDT From: "Heather Parsons" Subject: Raleigh Set List Here's the set list fer Raleigh, review later, promise: Precious Things Cruel Cornflake Girl Bells For Her Father Lucifer Hotel Famous Blue Raincoat (solo) Never Seen Blue (solo) Northern Lad Talula Spark The Waitress Enore 1: She's Your Cocaine Raspberry Swirl Encore 2: Graveyard Tear In Your Hand Song For Eric Heather ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:53:02 +0000 From: Ray Subject: Rolling Stone Poster/ Shepherd Hi everyone! I'd like to be at the meet and greet at the Bethlehem PA show, and I was wondering exactly when I should be there, etc... if anyone that's going let me know where the best place to be is and at what time and all I would be extremely grateful! =) I heard that the Rolling Stone poster was cancelled... E.Q.S. pulled the item off of it's inventory list, and when I asked what happened (since I had planned to order it), they sent me an email saying that the poster was cancelled because Tori "did not like the way she looked." This guy may be delusional, but he does order his own merchandise so I don't know what to think. If anyone knows how I can get one, please let me know, I really love that picture!! Also, I would like to publicly thank Ashley Blaize for putting the bit about Matthew Shepherd on his web page... I think it's an excellent idea! I thought the chaplain's statement to the Trinity College Community was... I don't really have the word right now... touching. I think that's it. Anyways, I'll be back later-- - -Ray "Years go by will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:41:51 EDT From: ToriBoi@aol.com Subject: numbers / song discussion Hey Guys. I think it's time, that we all as a group of EWF, discuss this numbers things. Obviously, from a success standpoint, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't. Blacksburg on Thursday was my tenth show, and the first show that numbers were ever given out, numbers were also given out yesterday in Baltimore. All day @ Blacksburg I was thinking about it. It was nice to be rewarded with a number for being early, and being able to leave the area for a bit for food or bathroom or whatever, and it was also nice and organized to line up before barricades were put up. But after that point. All hell breaks loose. Baltimore was a prime example of it, I was number 29, to the left of me was number 10, to the right, 59, and in front of me. 32... that shit aint' right... So I was contemplating it, so I mentioned it to Tori at the meet and greet in Blacksburg. I asked her honestly what she thought about the number system that we've taken upon ourselves to distribute. She rolled her eyes VERY heavily, said in a sarcastic way... "i have no comment, all I have to say is it's very interesting..." This bothers me greatly people. What if she hates the idea? I just don't know what to think. Why would you think that she hates it so much? hmmm.. This calls for some SERIOUS discussion... SONG DISCUSSION: I want to get back to what we used to do a lot of these lists. Talk about songs. With Tori's writing, you have to sometimes look far past the words to find the meaning and point of a song. It's the fun part about it.. especially months later after hearing a song for the first time, and you're like "oh yea! now i get it..! " So I think we should resume this on the lists. And if some people hate the idea, we should title the subject song discussion / Mary. The cool thing is, Tori said once in an interview that she can write a song about cows, and somebody can hear it, understand it, and think it's about flowers, and that would make perfect sense to them, and that's okay with her.. she said that's the point of writing sometimes.. i.e.. "she's your cocaine", i swear up and down that that song is about drag queens.. every word in the song makes perfect sense when you relate it to drag queens. Especially those of us who know any. "we all to watch, so show me once, and do it again..." But lots of people on here swear that they've heard Tori say it's about something else, which is FINE, but I'm always going to think it's about drag queens! So let's discuss people ... we could even use quotes and define them as to what we think that line meets. Let's start with "Cornflake Girl," this song has SOOO many meanings. It would be great to see what everyone thinks it's about... Joey ToriBoi@aol.com Joey's Skies "we could buy an airplane, build a home in the sand, u could tell your secrets, I could understand..." ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 18 Oct 1998 22:17:39 PDT From: "Heather Parsons" Subject: The Raleigh Show Hey all, just got back from the Raleigh show...it was everything I had hoped for. And then some. So, as suspected, the Creek sorda flipped about the Meet and Greet thing, and everyone was told that there would be one at five thirty apparently. Well, being sneaky...heh heh...we got there at about four o'clock and I lied to get in. I told the guy up front in the yellow shirt that I was there for a certain concession company (who I did used to work for...hee hee) and so we got to go to the backstage area. We didn't go in or anything, but sat in the car and watched to see if Steve or Joel or whoever would come out or a golf cart with Tori in it...no such luck. So at about four thirty, we went back up front (being all sneaky by going the back way so the security guy wouldn't suspect anything) and I got out and talked to--I wanna say Matt, 'cos I think he was the one on Ultrasound, but I'm not positive. I was looking for Tripp and Kerri to meet up with them, but I was late as it was, so. We decided to go eat something 'cos Matt (?) told us the M & G would be at 5:30. So we ate, came back and lied again to get in (I know, I'm really bad here, but you do what you got to do). We didn't see Tori, but I did get to listen to most of the soundcheck: She played Pretty Good Year, i i e e e, Spark, and a snippet of Precious Things. Pretty Good Year was absolutely GORGEOUS. We were all squealing (quietly) in our car, not very far from security. I thought we would be caught but we had fake names all ready just in case (of people who we knew for sure were working). Oh, and Caton went fishing in the pond behind the pavilion. There's a big lake thing back there and he was checking it out, disappeared backstage, came back out with a fishing pole. It was so Huck Finn. I loved it. So we got out at 5:30 (when it was legal! lol) and everyone had gathered at the back gate, where the security guy for the Creek was closing the gate on us, and then Joel came out and said that there would not be a M & G in the beginning because of all the people and the gates being open, and of course, the Creek's security shitting a brick. [At the aftershow M & G, Steve (I think his name was Steve, I'm trying to remember, everything's sorda muddled) said that they had to go through HELL to have one at all, so we lucked out, in every sense of the word.] So we all went in, and the show: This was my first Tori show of this tour, and I was so completely mesmerized. I have been really really really looking forward to seeing and hearing her perform with the band, and I was so not-disappointed. Everything about, especially the LIGHTS--my lord, the lights were incredible! I spent the entire show appreciating them mostly (besides the music, of course). They accented every bridge, every chorus so naturally that it was this all-encompassing experience, as if it were all coming from within Tori's head. I truly felt like we were at The Great Big Gig Up In Tori's Head. =) Her voice was top-notch tonight. She hit it all dead-on. I've seen Tori twice before, on the last two tours, and this show rocked my fucking world. The thing is this: Tori has always been a rock star. She's just been waiting for everyone else to catch on. What I saw tonight was everything that this woman was meant to become: a sassy, thumping, primal, bluesy, beautiful, divine rock goddess. She walked out in the black leotard with the glittering red dress/smock/thing, sat at the piano, and she OWNED that pavilion. Fucking owned it. The Creek will be lucky to ever be graced with such a powerful presence again. I was concerned about the acoustics in the venue, because they're usually crappy, but man. She had it tucked into her pocket tonight. And the band was having a ball. Okay, let's get on with it... I'll run down the songs, comment on all of 'em... PRECIOUS THINGS: You could not pick a better song to open this show with. It sets the tone for the show PERFECTLY. And the lights! The white lights turning the stage into Tori's Domain on the chorus, her growling "girrrrrrrrrrrl", and her hair tossing back. I will never be able to listen to this song without thinking of this performance version with the band. I couldn't imagine it any other way. CRUEL: I have a newfound appreciation for this song. It wasn't my fave off of Choirgirl, but now I will listen to it with a way different perspective. Tori twisted her arms all around her head and in front of her, straddling her bench, and Jon was having a BALL. (It's Jon, right? I told you--my brain is FRIED...) One of my fave light shows too. [Introduced the Band.] CORNFLAKE GIRL: Everyone went fucking ballistic as soon as the guitar started, but she did a really cool, bluesy intro to it that I adored, and I really hope it makes it onto the LIVE album. And the yellow lights fit. BELLS FOR HER: At first I was like, "No way...couldn't be what I think--it IS!" After listening to the sheer sadness in the original version, accented by the bell-piano which I know has a name but I don't 'member--this one just put a completely different spin on this. This was probably one of my favorites of the night. FATHER LUCIFER: Tori began this with the story about her father resenting it, and the South American shaman thing (which everyone LOVED) and she talked about her brother Mike being there, and that was no surprise 'cos he's there every time she's in Raleigh. Supportive older brother, no doubt. =) I was so happy for Tripp (ya there?) 'cos I know he wanted to hear this, and I'm really sorry I didn't hook up with him and Kerri at the show. Okay, enough apologizing! =) This version was really great, and Tori still managed to make her voice sorda...soar, I guess is the appropriate term, over the band. Lovely. HOTEL: Quite possibly my favorite of the night. It was AMAZING! (I know I keep using the same adjectives over and over...heh heh) The light flashed magenta and purple on the high-pitched parts, and then to white purple and magenta on the chorus, which gave me chills. I loved everything about this, and trust me, "Hotel" is not one of my faves from that album. It's never struck me, so tonight, I am now an official "Hotel" fan. =) Secret "Blue" Time...band leaves... FAMOUS BLUE RAINCOAT: Tori talked about how this song was written by one of her favorite songwriters, and that she doesn't play it very much, but that it had decided to come tonight. Oh. My God. I was almost in tears, it was that touching. Her voice was just filled with so much melancholy and saness and then just BEAUTY. I sat forward in my seat, unable to look away from her. NEVER SEEN BLUE: As if Raincoat weren't enough, she does this next, so it was a Blue Secret Time tonight. =) This about sent me over the edge, but I couldn't move in my seat. I sat there, just frozen by this beautiful, beautiful woman and her voice...god. Band returns... NORTHERN LAD: This is one of the ones I wanted to hear worst, and it unfolds up there onstage and I can feel myself starting to just get all shaky inside (which, incidentally, could have been because of how "fucking COLD" it was tonight, dear LORD) but I doubt it. Perfect. TALULA: Another I really really really wanted to hear with the band. I was dying to hear this and it blew everyone away. The lights came up in pinwheels and then the band kicks in and it just rocked the pavilion. Very cool. SPARK: I don't want to say I was disappointed, per say, by this, but I think I had my heart set on the live version of this and it wasn't quite...I dunno how to explain it. The bridge was great though. Loved the red lights. THE WAITRESS: OHMIGOD! If this version is not on the LIVE album, I will personally crucify the head of Atalntic Records...who probably won't have anything to do with what ends up on the final cut, but just go with me here--the last four minutes of the song, Tori went fucking ballsy-blues goddess ballistic and I could not have been any happier. I LOVED it. Encore Numbero Uno... SHE'S YOUR COCAINE: This is now officially a favorite song. This song is meant to be played live until the damn cows decide they'er gonna funk themselves home. I wish more people had been up out of their seats 'cos it was totaly shake-your-bootay time! RASPBERRY SWIRL: Of course, I knew it was this song when the deely-boppers (is this the official name of them now? LOL) appeared on MAtt's head and he just started going to town. A lot more people got up for this one, but still not enough. I almost went out on the lawn to get down but settled for where I was instead. I LOVE the lights for this. It was Tori's Disco and I got Swirled. =) Second Encore... GRAVEYARD: Short, beautiful. TEAR IN YOUR HAND: Okay, so here's where I lost it. It's really funny, because this is the song I most wanted to hear because it means more to me than anything, has always been my favorite since I bought Little Earthquakes back in '92, after hearing Crucify on the radio for the first time, and I was so caught up in the concert, I didn't have time to think about whether she would play it, so the opening bar sounded and I stood up, and the tears just poured down my face for the length of it. My heart was in my throat, and I just stood there, crying, wanting to sob, but knowing the people around me were already annoyed I was standing, so...=) I think it REALLY got me when she started the last verse: "Caught a ride with the moon..." OH GOD. And the lights, all speckly and white and blue...they added so much ambience, and i was just a basket case by the time it was over. Absolute sobbing wreck. What made it so much more special is that I hadn't expEcted it, so I am officially in heaven. SONG FOR ERIC: I know some people missed this 'cos they sped back for the M & G, but IT WAS ABSOLUTELY BEAUTIFUL. Just Tori sitting there in the white light, giving us all a treat. It was the perfect ending for the show. After the show...we went back for the M & G and there were a ton of people and Steve came out and gave us all a really stern, stern lecture about how to behave. And then he talked about how it had been like pulling teeth to have Tori come out there at all. (For the record--the head of Creek security is an asshole.) So Tori came out, and it being my first M & G, seeing her in person like that..that close (as close as four people deep back could be, lol)...she's so HUMAN. She's tiny and has big ears and a warm, generous mouth, and I could have eaten her with some pudding, she was so gorgeous and REAL. As for how everyone behaved, I think it went generally well, but I didn't stay for the whole thing. Some people were being obnoxious, but that happens everywhere, I'm sure. They kept telling us to be quiet, and of course you have those few that feel yelling is the way to get Tori's attention. Whatever. I'm feeling too good about it to worry about what one or two people did. =) Tori signed my copy of Death: The High Cost of Living, and as soon as I got it, I moved out so other people could get in to see her. This is something I have to comment on: this was my first M & G, and I understand that people want to see her very badly, but folks, once you get your stuff signed, move on. I mean, there were so many people practically in tears because they couldn't get close enough to even see the top of her head, and I thought it was really a shame that more people didn't just move out of the way once they had talked to her or gotten what they wanted signed or whatever. As I moved out, this girl said to me, "Thank you so much for moving when you got your thing signed." and that made me feel good, because that girl would not have gotten close otherwise. I am ECSTATIC and overjoyed about getting the autograph, and I want everyone to experience that. Denying others that just seems petty and selfish to me. It's not what Tori's all about. I want to say hi to Kelley, who I did manage to get up with, as well as her SO Rob--it was great finally metting you guys in person! Also, hello to the other Friday's people--sorry I missed dinner! Kerri and Tripp--WAH! please keep in touch...I was so disappointed I didn't get to meet you! And finally to the way nice girl I met at the Meet & Greet, who wanted a copy of Y Kant Tori Read: thanks for putting up with all of our way bad Tori jokes and other misc. Hope to hear from you soon. So I am incredibly happy and content and ready for Columbia. Heather, just another tear in the hand ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:02:11 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: numbers / song discussion Joey said: > ...I was contemplating it, so I mentioned it to Tori at the meet and > greet in Blacksburg. I asked her honestly what she thought about the > number system that we've taken upon ourselves to distribute. She rolled > her eyes VERY heavily, said in a sarcastic way... "i have no comment, > all I have to say is it's very interesting..." I suggest next time asking her what she would think were fistfights to start regularly breaking out while folks who were at the venue to wait since 8am to meet her were being shoved aside and raced past by people who got there at 2pm when the barricades are being put up in the afternoon, if you want her opinion on the other likeliest option. If she was seriously concerned about taking responsibility for ensuring this was done safely and fairly she could hire yet another person to organize it and babysit everyone all day until she gets there in the afternoon (or run a lottery, etc.), but by virtue of her not doing this I think that clearly shows she doesn't consider it her place to take the responsibility on herself and her people, which leaves the responsibility clearly on our shoulders. > This bothers me greatly people. What if she hates the idea? What if she does? So what? It's not about her, it's about us. I have no interest in running numbering at a venue, and shan't be. All the same, I'm glad when it *is* done if I want to be up front to intereact with her at close range for some reason on a given day, which isn't very often. I'd *love* a perfect way of doing this to be devised. Name one. (Keep in mind this will be a moot discussion in 6 1/2 weeks, anyway.) Great sitting next to you in Baltimore, Joey. :-) Take care, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 15:32:58 EDT From: Cdfreke@aol.com Subject: the Raleigh Concert this is only my second Tori concert but i now have achived a wonderful feat i got to the ampitherater at about 3:45 hoping desperatly i hadn't missed the meet and greet and i found that i hadn't. they weren't having a before show meet and greet. so i drove with my mom ( i'm only 14 so i had to go with someone who could drive ) to the Olive Garden for a delightful meal and drove back. on the way in my mom, as we were approaching the security check, became apperhensive about trying to sneak in a camera. so about 5-10 min. later i walked passed them a buldge in each pocket( i had a "nice" camera manual focus ) and no one noticed or cared. we got in and there was like a local stage where this woman Meredith Sparks was playing. she reminded me of Beth Orton. then she said, "Hi i'm Merideth Sparks and i am addicted to nicoteen patches. This is the only place i could say that and someone will get it." well after that i got a tour book and i was happy. we walked to our seats which ended up being sorta bad. row 16 on the audience right so the piano, open slightly, covered the top half of her face, illiminating almost all chance of pics. the warm up band was ok but not too good. then we waited. and waited. and waited. while waiting i asked some guards if i could get a letter and poem to tori. the guys said to look for somebody with a pass. i saw this guy with short dark hair and 2 thin wire earrings in his right ear and he said he could give it to her after the show ( if you've been to the m&g you might know who this is). Then the band came on. the started what i knew would be Precious Things. Then on came Tori. Wearing a red sequined apron and the off the shoulder black suit. Precious Things- Wonderful. so much better with the band one of my all time favs the lighting was great some improv Cruel- INCREDIBLE i was hoping to hear this at Charolette and was happy to hear it now, they all went wild it was great lota improv Cornflake Girl- wow she did a lot with this song and did a little intro to it ( if anyone has the words send them to me ) the audience was dancing so far and didn't stop on this one lots of improv Bells For Her - WOAH i don't reallt like the album version but this was mindblowing not incredibly intricate but textured and brilliant Father Lucifer- Told a story. " My dad came to me and said, ' i really don't like this song you wrote about me' but dad i write a lot of my songs about you. then he told her the song and she said ' it wasn't about you' she had some drugs and went on a spritual trip with a shaman and it's about the dark side of religion. then went into a kick ass version of Father Lucifer i love the song and was delighted to hear it. Hotel- wow again i loved this version so much better that the album version Famous Blue Raincoat- i didn't know what the song was at the time but i thought it was georgus ( i know it's not spelled right ) if anyone has this one Real Audio or MP3 contact me Never Seen Blue- very awsome i thought it was wonderful Northern Lad- i thought this song was awsome and incerdible i was so glad she did this Taula - did some improve before and i wasn't sure what it was but when she belted out "Taula, Taula'' i was thankful and loved it Spark- i didn't love this version and the song is kinda boring me because its the only tori song ever played but the song wasn't bad it was pretty good The Waitress- Wow i love the song love the way she played it lots of improv at the end and did the heavy sexual breating at the end she sang " i believe in peace, bitch i believe in the money" or atleast thats what it sounded like if anyone knows what she sang contact me She's Your Cocaine- i was hoping to hear this and was delighted to hear it again there were lots of people dancing Rasberry Swirl- OOOHHHH wow wow wow it was incerdible i loved this so much matt put on his head thingy and was going buck wild on the drums and tori went wild too Graveyard- at first i thought she was gonna play Toodles Mr. Jim but i was sooo happy to hear it live i love that song Tear in Your Hand- i loved this version, made me listen and gave a new meaning to the song Song for Eric- BEST SONG OF THE SHOW i simply loved it just tori's voice and not another sound after the show i sprinted to the backstage area anxoiusly awaiting the arival of her i stood from 10:30 to about 11:15 before she came out i got to meet her i got to speak with her she waved to me and she said i was georgeous ( i guess because of my long, shoulder length red hair) i got my LE book signed and now i can die happy also she said" i loved project pandora"( wink to dink ) and the guy i gave my letter and poem to was i think Arthur cuz he came out and said we had to be quite or tori would leave personal note: there were 2 girls who sat beside me in the show and stood beside me in the m&g( blonde and brunette ) the blonde said she had internet and if you get this contact me thanks to the faeires i prayed to before the show matt cdfreke@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:28:44 EDT From: FlyaPlain@aol.com Subject: what does faeries mean? okay, i'm new, even though i have all of her albums (due to a spoiled fact). anyway, what does faeries mean? at first i thought it was a gay term, but when i saw someone say "i prayed to the faeries" i thought i should asked. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:52:46 EDT From: Ulini852@aol.com Subject: tori in nashville hey everyone, only two more days till the nashville concert. :) i cant make it to the meet and greet because of school :( is there one after the concert? are they the same as the one before or what? any info is greatly appreciated. thanks ula ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:00:56 -0500 From: "Daisy Dead Petals" Subject: Tori was at my wedding OK tori was *kind of* at my wedding...my soloist was very VERY late and really got my blood pressure up, but she did a stunning rendition of Song for Eric. Not Tori, but the next best thing! She really belted out "I see you in my dreams..." oh boy I got chills! And then, we had hired a blind guy to play 10 tori songs instumental at our reception. Well, he informed us that he didnt get around to it and he ended up playing other stuff. He was a fantastic piano player, but damn it, I wanted to hear some TORI! He did play a cool version of stairway to heaven...my husband was all excited about that! Being married is cool...I highly recommend it... Daisy Melanie & Lenny Green lgreen@coredcs.com "Faeries wear boots & you gotta believe me I saw what I saw and I tell you no lies" "Remember me? You know, the tomato from upstairs?" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:35:02 -0400 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Bethlehem Concert At 03:53 PM 10/19/98 +0000, Ray wrote: > > Hi everyone! I'd like to be at the meet and greet at the Bethlehem PA >show, and I was wondering exactly when I should be there, etc... if anyone >that's going let me know where the best place to be is and at what time and >all I would be extremely grateful! =) OK all you penneys out there, I'll take charge if you like. For the meet and greet, thank the fairies it's a weekday and there won't be a hell of a lot of folks there. Tori shows up around 4, I plan to be there around 1. *CAUTION* Stabler Arena is in the middle of nowhere on top of a mountain. There is nothing there except for campus buildings. I can suggest a nearby resterant for out of towners (Gus's CrossRoads) that is only 3 miles away. So everyone going to the Bethlehem M&G, let me know. I know someone (is it manda?) has a badge up on the web to print out for everyone to identify eachother. This is so cool! Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** *~**Fairy Blessings**~* ~~ tori trades and really deep thoughts~ a proud member of the Tori Traders Ring updated at least monthly http://www.angelfire.com/pa/bethey/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 18:28:00 -0400 (EDT) From: Keith Shapiro Subject: Re: numbers / song discussion Joey, who apparently was sitting about 4 seats from me in Baltimore said: > I think it's time, that we all as a group of EWF, discuss this numbers things. > Obviously, from a success standpoint, sometimes it works and sometimes it > doesn't. Blacksburg on Thursday was my tenth show, and the first show that > numbers were ever given out, numbers were also given out yesterday in > Baltimore. I'm kind of confused by what you mean. I've been to 6 M&G and three GA shows this tour. One M&G and one GA show was unnumbered. > All day @ Blacksburg I was thinking about it. It was nice to be > rewarded with a number for being early, and being able to leave the area for a > bit for food or bathroom or whatever, and it was also nice and organized to > line up before barricades were put up. But after that point. All hell breaks > loose. Baltimore was a prime example of it, I was number 29, to the left of > me was number 10, to the right, 59, and in front of me. 32... that shit aint' > right... And that's how it's been at every M&G I've been to but Nashville (8/25). Let's talk about what the numbers are really for. They're there to make sure that the people who were there first make the first row in the M&G. If you're numbered and more or less in line, then the next two rows of people will roughly compose what the next two rows of people would have been. Everyone after that might as well not be there. (And sometimes, I think it would be better if they weren't! A lot less pushing, to be sure.) > that we've taken upon ourselves to distribute. She rolled her eyes VERY > heavily, said in a sarcastic way... "i have no comment, all I have to say is > it's very interesting..." > This bothers me greatly people. What if she hates the idea? I just don't > know what to think. Why would you think that she hates it so much? hmmm.. This > calls for some SERIOUS discussion... As Richard said, it's not her gig. It's ours. We're lucky that Tori even bothers to take the time to come out and talk to us. A lot of performers don't do that. Hell, AFAIK Tori is the only one I know that plays arenas and does it. I've run the numbers at places where it's been successful and where it's failed utterly. I won't do it anymore (I will participate, however). I can tell you why it fails -- the people that ruin it don't care about anyone else. They know that *they* want to meet Tori. And fuck all to those who actually took the time to get to the venue 8 hours before the M&G. And so they push and they shove and they cause a scene. As for Tori hating it.. I think if there were an issue, we would have heard from her (probably through Steve Sanchez). Personally, I think that Steve (at least) is somewhat happier with the numbers than a mad rush to the corral. The M&Gs have gone bonkers since DDI. I went outside after the Lexington show and about 25 people were waiting for her. That's it. No one pushed or shoved or yelled or screamed. No one left during the encores. Maybe people just understood more back then. I think with the popularity of M&G these days the numbers are an essential part, even if they are dubiously useful. Thanks for your time, Keith - -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- ** -- Keith D. Shapiro * keither@iname.com * http://take3.home.ml.org * This space left intentionally blank. AOL ID: kdshap0 * ICQ #1978801 * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:37:09 -0400 From: "The Strangest Angel" Subject: Re: what does faeries mean? faeries like you know...wings, elves, the whole bit? faeries...pixies...oberon, titania... thats what they mean by faeries DarkDreamer k'Treva ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:29:38 EDT From: PoetGrrlAC@aol.com Subject: Re: Bethlehem Concert In a message dated 10/19/98 7:08:10 PM Eastern Daylight Time, betheqt@voicenet.com writes: << So everyone going to the Bethlehem M&G, let me know. I know someone (is it manda?) has a badge up on the web to print out for everyone to identify eachother. This is so cool! >> yup, it's up! my webpage was out of space, so mikewhy graciously let me put iton his page. you can find thelink andmessage about it on the dent's main page, under announcement and requests for help. here's the direct url for the badge: http://members.aye.net/~mikewhy/jpgs/ftcgh/BADGE1.JPG i would not have been able to put the badge on the web without mike, thanks mikewhy! anyway, just print, put in your e-mail and (nick)name, and pin it on before the m&g. peace, manda c (only 34 days!!) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 17:14:14 PDT From: "The Huntress" Subject: TALULA...Where are you? Hello. TALULA. I lost your E-mail addy. Did you send that boot yet? I never got it. Let me know. The Huntress. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:05:52 -0400 From: Sheri Neumoyer Subject: HELP! Hi everyone, For some reason or another I have never been able to meet Tori no matter how hard I try. I saw her in Philly in July and was trambled on after the show trying to meet her by her bus. I'm going to see her in November in Newark, Delaware and am desperate to meet her if only for a brief second. I'm sure you all can relate. I read all the time how all of you have met her and I visit your sites and see the pictures and I don't understand what I'm doing wrong. If anyone could suggest what time I should get to the venue, where I should wait or anything I can do to increase my chances of meeting Tori, I would be forever greatful. Thanks, Sheri ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 16:48:31 -0700 (PDT) From: Greg Burrell Subject: Tori News from RDT Hi Everybody, 10/19/98 Here are the latest news and on-sale dates from Tori's management. ON-SALE These are the concerts going on sale in the near future: ------------------------------------------------------------ Concert City Venue On-Sale Date Date ------------------------------------------------------------ 11/7 Indiana, PA Fisher Auditorium 10/21 11/15 Amherst, MA Mullins Center on sale 11/16 Burlington, VT Burlington Memorial Aud on sale 11/28 Akron, OH Rhodes Arena 10/23 11/29 Columbus, OH Palace Theater 10/23 THE FUTURE OF THE TOUR Tori's last concert this year is December 3 in East Lansing, MI. There may be one more show added on November 20 but, except for that, all concerts for this year have been announced. Tori's management does not know if she will resume touring next year. VIDEO RELEASE A new Tori Amos video collection will be released in the US on November 17. I don't know if there will also be a Canadian or European release. This collection will include ALL of Tori's videos up through and including "Jackie's Strength" and "Raspberry Swirl". It will even have both versions of the "Cornflake Girl" video! TELEVISION The "NewsStand: CNN & Entertainment Weekly" show featuring Tori will finally be aired on November 7 at either 7 or 10pm. Check your local listings for details and confirmation of the time. Also, "MTV Revue" will feature Tori on the November 4 show. -Greg Burrell The Official Tori Amos Fanzine News Editor http://www.toriamos.org Really Deep Thoughts ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 19 Oct 1998 19:04:22 -0700 (PDT) From: "K. Fischer" Subject: Re: rolling stones posters..... I bought one of these from Intergalactic Garage not too long along. They are $10 each, but with shipping and handling one poster costs $15 total. They have a website at http://www.igg.com or you can call them at 304-876-6818 and place an order. Karin ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #366 *************************************