From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #301 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, August 25 1998 Volume 03 : Number 301 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Before They Were Rock Stars III [Richard Handal ] Tori and Courtney [delirium@tig.com.au (dAisY DeAd PEtaLs)] tori setlists and more ["Nephilim" ] Sunrise, FL show! ["Giovanni Mantilla" ] Sunrise shows\trade ["Anastasia DeBeck" ] Re: UK toriphiles (JS day) [Ken Tough ] ADMIN: How to UNSUBSCRIBE [Michael Curry ] meet and greet question... ["courtney griffin" ] Winter and Mike Grey ["Ryan -" ] Re: tori setlists and more [Pele192329@aol.com] OH MY GOD ["Marlene Magee" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 00:43:41 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Before They Were Rock Stars III Hi, All: VH1 updated their web site to reflect this week's schedule. Before They Were Rock Stars III is to be telecast at both 8pm and 10pm EDT on Tuesday, August 25, and lasts 60 minutes. Considering there are 20 artists listed for this show the segments can't be more than an average of 90 seconds each--keep that in mind. (To those who didn't see the original post about this, Cheryl Pike posted to the ToriNews and Precious Things mailing lists saying she saw a promo for this show in which there was a *video* clip of Tori singing Baltimore!) Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ___________________________________________________________________ http://www.vh1.com/insidevh1/schedule/display.tin?dtBroadcastTime= 08/25/1998%2020%3a00%3a00 VH1 / [INLINE] Inside VH1 - Program Schedule [INLINE] Tuesday 8/25 Before They Were Rock Stars III An intimate look at performers before they became Rock stars. Artists include: Phil Collins, Eryka Badu, Garth Brooks, Tiffany, LeAnn Rimes, John Travolta, Olivia Newton-John, John Mellencamp, B-52s, Kylie Minogue, Whitney Houston, Jermaine Jackson, Lisa Stansfield, Frank Zappa, Jimi Hendrix, Brandy, Tori Amos, Gloria Estefan, Smithereens, and Go Gos/Belinda Carlisle. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:20:03 +1000 From: delirium@tig.com.au (dAisY DeAd PEtaLs) Subject: Tori and Courtney Hi All I was reading Juice (Aussie music mag) and they had an interview with Courtney Love. She was asked about the meaning of a song and she said "I think 'Petals' is about chaos and nature and trying to find truth in God. But if I keep talking about it, I'll sound like Tori Amos - so you go do it" hmmm I thought this was interesting because of the "Is Professional Widow about Courtney Love?" issue, and also because of the Trent Reznor - Tori - Courtney thing. Trent said in Rolling Stone a few months ago that he is no longer close friends with Tori "due to the meddling of Courtney Love" and Tori said that Professional Widow was not about Courtney in Q magazine a few months ago. toodles Daisy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 05:29:07 -0400 From: "Nephilim" Subject: tori setlists and more hey all. the tori amos set lists for the first 3 florida shows are available at the tori corner i was able to see tori for the first 3 florida shows, i decided not to go to the tampa show,(the last florida show for a while) due to many reason, either way, the tori book was a success, you can read about what happened and all at the tori corner.. it back to its usual schedule with the latest news and site updates. so go check it out. pictures and review of the shows will come shortly... they all were wondefull shows, but i must say the best one was sunrise 8.22.98 :) i also was able to record that show which was very good. i was scared shitless, since ive never tried to record a show before, but it was all good, i didnt get caught and it came out okay. there are wonderfull pictures at jenn's faerie ring of the orlando show and tori with the tori book. they are at http://fly.to/faeriering remember that tori will be on vh1 on tuesday at 8pm and that the raspberry swirl germany single is also being released this tuesday take care all alex - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- The Tori Amos Corner ( http://come.to/tori.corner ) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 09:30:56 -0500 From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: Sunrise, FL show! Hey! Does anyone know where I can find a CD-R or a tape of this show! ARGH! SHE PLAYED FLYING DUTCHMAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have got to have that. Dani, if you get a mp3 of this or Mr. Zebra, please post the on your page when you can! I cannot wait to hear this! Love and crazyness, Giovanni http://come.to/corncity ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 08:44:41 -0400 From: "Anastasia DeBeck" Subject: Sunrise shows\trade HI ALL! Well, I finally got to meet her (sort of) I attended the shows on Friday and sat night. They were both trully amazing and as Tori walked off the stage sat night, i wascrying and silently praying that she wasnt really leaving, that it wasn't really over. Sat afternoon we got to the meet and greet "waiting area" around 1. ThThey gave out numbers as you arrived. Now I don't know for sure, but I've heard on the list and through the grapevine that people are usually REALLY cool about helping people like me, who are on their 6th concert without having had the chance to meet her. Granted, people who get their at 7 in the morning deserve to be up front but the spirit at sunrise was much more everyone for themselves than I expected. No matter, though. We were about the third row back at meet and greet and I did get an autograph and some pictures, which i would have waited ten times as long for, Maegan even spoke to Tori, Tori also sang some lyrics that Dor asked her about for a small group of us (the beginning lyrics to bachlorette) i want to thank Dor for snapping those pics for me. Dor--If your out there, let me know and I'll send you copies if they're good. I hope your sunburn wasn't too bad. Although maegan was inches from passing out from the heat and claustrophobia, it was a moment we will never forget!!! The crew came out during the second oncore with balloons and everyone sang her happy birthday (we also sang it at meet and greet). Anyway, i could go on forever. If anyone wants to trade, e-mail me. - --A ********************************** come along now little darlin come along now with me come along now little darlin we'll see how brave you are Yes Anastasia http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/3600/index.htm ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 10:50:07 +0000 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: UK toriphiles (JS day) Kevin Myra wrote: >*** All you british toriphiles (and i know there are alot), please >email me if you have any info on a UK request show, or national >tori-kind radio station. not one person from england has emailed me yet. Well I guess the silence says it all. There is only really one national rock/pop radio station (Radio 1), and they used to be 'tori friendly', but she doesn't get much airplay there. There is no hope of public pressure getting any particular music onto regular play on Radio 1. The playlist is established by some kind of board [wearing suits, probably] and try as you like, you will not get what you want onto their play list. Combine that with the fact that EastWest/Atlantic has just withdrawn their support for Tori promotion (okay, a bit harsh, but they won't release singles in the UK which typically means they won't pressure R1 or other stations for playlist spots, which means they've left her Out In The Cold, as they say) and it doesn't look very promising at all. *** HOWEVER *** Yes, if there is enough pressure we *might* get Simon Mayo to go along with the JS plan on his morning program. (Plays old hits and other things) simon.mayo@bbc.co.uk It might be better to request Raspberry Swirl, given that JS wasn't even going to be released as a single here, and RS tends to fit the format better. Why not give it a go? - -- Ken Tough Cornwall, U.K. Edge of the planet, then get out and walk. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 16:02:11 -0500 (CDT) From: Michael Curry Subject: ADMIN: How to UNSUBSCRIBE You're sick of reading it. I'm sick of sending it. Here, yet again, is a reminder about how to unsubscribe from precious-things: To unsubscribe from precious-things or precious-things-digest simply send an email (from the address you're subscribed with) to: majordomo@smoe.org Your email should have no subject and a body of: unsubscribe precious-things (for the bounce version) OR unsubscribe precious-things-digest (for the digest version) If you attempt to do this and it doesn't work (claiming, for example, that you aren't actually subbed to the list you're trying to unsub from) then email owner-precious-things and let us know. Email us about unsubscribing *only* if you make the attempt and have a problem. 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Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:55:35 PDT From: "courtney griffin" Subject: meet and greet question... i H8 to sound niave - but how does the number line thing work? how many hours before the concert should you get there??? very interested!!! love in tori, cruel choirgirl http://www.eccentrica.org/toriphile/index.html ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 14:16:52 PDT From: "Mikey :- 0" Subject: Tori on cover of Columbia house booklet thingy ;-) hey toriphiles...it's me mikey again... *smile* well i hope this hasn't been posted before...i was away in new mexico for a while so i missed out on a lot...anyhoo i got this in the mail with the columbia house music stuff and tori was on the cover of one of the booklets...so i scanned them for ya...just click the URLS...and i typed out the article...so enjoy! *smooches* ARTIST SPOTLIGHT: (selection of the month) ^ÓMaking Sparks Fly^Ô If anyone can turn rock upside down with a piano, it^Òs Tori Amos. Known to her legions of fans for personal, piano-driven art rock that recalls the best of Kate Bush, Amos has taken a left turn with ^ÓFrom The Choirgirl Hotel,^Ô creating her own version of a genuine rock and roll album. Recorded live with an accompanying drummer and bassist, this album packs more sonic punch than any of her previous efforts, relying on rhythm as much as impressionistic melodies. The first single, Spark, is a dreamy waltz that builds up to some awesome keyboard hammering from Amos herself and a rousing bit of choir singing. Cruel sounds like tricky could have done the beat (but he didn^Òt) while Raspberry Swirl flirts with dance rhythms. But that^Òs not to say that she^Òs turned her back on the haunting, emotionally direct style that^Òs made her an international sensation: Black-Dove (January) is a full-on, Tori^Òs-in-the-chapel ballad, unapologetically grand and passionate. Through it all, Amos spells out-indirectly but powerfully-what it^Òs like to grapple with the demons of womanhood, life and hope. Full of music that affirms her place as one of the most important artists of her generation, ^ÓFrom The Choirgirl Hotel^Ô shows Tori Amos charging ahead without reservation, taking chances and making good old-fashioned rock in her own unmistakable way. i scanned the cover: http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Village/8368/toricover.jpg and the article: http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Village/8368/toriarticle.jpg **ta ta smooches tootles luv ya sweethearts** ~*MiKeY*~ *~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~:*~: michael "mikey" pinell homepages: http://www.geocities.com/WestHollywood/Village/8368/ http://members.wbs.net/homepages/p/r/i/princessmikey.html email: mykal69@hotmail.com or princessmikey@geocities.com aol screename: PriNcSsMkY "she's yr cocaine, she's got you shaving yr legs, you can SuCk anything, but you know you wanna be me so, put on yr make-up boy, yr you're favourite stranger, and we all like to watch so shimmy once and do it again...if you want me to boy i could lie to you, you don't need one of these to let me InSidE you" - -tori amos- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:07:20 -0500 From: "Gwydion Cathair" Subject: Tori Article in the Tennessean this is a Tori article that was in the Tennessean. It's in the Arts and Entertainment section for those who can get ahold of this paper. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Tori Amos fills 'Choirgirl Hotel' with mythic metaphors" (By Rick de Yampert--staff writer) Tori Amos, that singer-pianist who's part sensitive chanteuse, part freaky-raw rocker, is talking about a visitor she had last year - Pandora. Yes, that mythical ancient Greek babe who opened the box and let out all sorts of mayhem. "I didn't realy know what was in store for me when she came," Amos says by phone before her concert in Charlotte, N.C. "It almost made sense that she came first, because she sort of paved the way, as she did mythologically, for other experiences, other feelings to come." Even a casual listen to From The Choirgirl Hotel, the new album by Amos, will reveal it's litted with references to figures from various mythologies and religions - Pandora, Persephone, Judas, the Sufis. As Amos talks during a break in her current tour, which comes to the Grand Ole Opry House Tuesday,words such as "Dionysian" and "shaman" pop up cassually. The impressions: Amos isn't glibly tossing out names stuck in her brain since reading The Odyssey in the 10th grade. So, when Amos mentions "Pandora" and then keeps referring to "she this" and "she that," it's hard to determine whether she's speaking of vision, if she's speaking in metaphor, or if she's personifying the song Pandora's Aquarium on her new album. But any probe of Amos and her psyche is sent crashing down to earth when she mentions that "Pandora was the first song to really come after we had lost the baby, when I was just trying to find a reason to wake up in the morning." In 1996, a pregnant Amos was winding down her tour and looking foward to motherhood with her soon-to-be husband. Then, two days before Christmas, she miscarried. "You know, your hormones are crashing, you're chemically a mess," Amos says. At first her voice seems frail as a fairy-tale maiden trapped in a dark castle. But her steady delivery soon changes that impression. Her voice is sweet yet sturdy as Xena the Warrior Princess. "Emotionally, there's nothing you can really say to a couple who have just lost their baby," she says. "To say 'It's God's will' makes no sense. Don't try being a poet if that's what you come up with. That's just completely uncompassionate. How arrogant. I've heard so many people say, 'Well the angels were there for us and everything turned out OK,' but what happenes when the angels aren't there for people and it doesn't turn out?" What happened for Amos is that she turned to music. After all, this now-poppish, now-quirky songstress had always dared to be frankly confessional in her three previous albums. Make that brutally confessional. She had written an autobiographical song about being raped. She had brazenly combined sexual and twisted religious imagery in her lyrics - her rebellion against the Christianity she was taught by her Methodist minister father while growing up in North Carolina and Baltimore. In fact, Amos recently told Rolling Stone magazine that she has "a mission to expose the dark side of Christianity." But, in the harrowing days after her miscarriage, she turned to music only after encountering another interesting visitor. "it's funny because when I lost the baby, I was looking for any deity I could find," she says. "I found the Christian god. I felt like I had a few margaritas with him and I had millions of questions. Just where do souls go when they die? "As I started to ask more questions, the songs started to come more and more. The songs started to show me things that I really had to integrate, and I'm still integrating when I play them live." From the Choirgirl Hotel is hardly some Diary of a Miscarriage. In typical Tori Amos fashion, the lyrics veer from stark realism to lofty, erudite allusions, to oblique, even weird and unfathomable word play -sometimes within the same song. Spark, the first single, is typical. "She's convinced she could hold back a glacier, but she couldn't keep Baby alive," Amos wrenchingly sings at one point. A short time later she's claiming, "If the Divine master plan is perfection, maybe next I'll give Judas a try." Then the very next verse, she tosses out a mystifying line about "trusting my soul to the ice cream assassin." Amos throws out a truce, of sorts, to Christianity. "I have no real issues with Jesus, but the institution manipulated so many of his teachings," she says. In fact, Amos is just as dismayed by New Age spiritually. "The problem with the New Age is that there are a lot of bells and whistles, but not a lot of people walking their talk," she says. "It's like spirituality as a fashion. you go to the right shaman or you spend time with Deepak Chopra, and then you come back and you're horrible to your employees. I just find that... there's a side to New Age thinking that there's a short cut, that if you take the course, then you have it. But as you and I really know, it's a life-long path." Amos admires the spirituality of her part-Cherokee grandfather, who, she says, saw "a sacredness as part of his everyday world, no different than smoking his pipe." His example has led her to be "drawn to open- mindedness, mythology and spirituality." She laments how media superfically portay spirituality, how media "take the power of it away" by giving it a "Disney" treatment. She pauses and sighs before adding, "It's like the faeries are torching themselves like Buddhist monks, in protest to how they've been represented." And once again we're left wondering whether Amos is speaking of a vision, a metaphor - or perhaps both. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ GETTING THERE Tori Amos and The Devlins will be in concert at 8 p.m. Tuesday at the Grand Ole Opry Hoouse. Tickets: $30 and $25, available through Ticketmaster (615-255-9600) SOURCE24 To hear songs from the Tori Amos album From The Choirgirl Hotel, call The Tennessean's Source24 line, a free 24-hour news and information service, at 615-242-2424. Punch in category code 1053 to hear Spark and Black-Dove (January). ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ In Tori, Gwydion Cathair (Josh) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 15:29:37 PDT From: "Maggie Stewart" Subject: Trading and introduction Hey all! I'm new to the list( but not to Tori) So I thought I might introduce myself. I'm 14 and I live in Canada. I have been a Tori fan since last August when I got Boys For Pele(Which is still my favourite Tori album)Since then I have gotten: LE, Crucify EP, UtP, BfP, CALS, Hey Jupiter EP, From the choirgirl hotel, and Spark. I also have 1 Tori poster, and the autobiography, All These Years, by Kalen Rogers. Anyway, I was wondering if there are any toriphiles willing to trade boots with me. Although, I don't have any Tori boots (hoping to fix that:o)) I do have Sarah McLachlan's "Pressed Up Against The Glass" and Sarah McLachlan's "Live" EP that I am willing to trade for any Tori boots. So e-mail me back if you're interested. Meg ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 17:05:22 PDT From: "Ryan -" Subject: Winter and Mike Grey Does anyone know if there's a story behind the percussion mix of Winter? Does anyone have a copy of it on cdr that they would be willing to trade? Will Mike Grey please email me? Thanks. Ryan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 22:21:03 EDT From: Pele192329@aol.com Subject: Re: tori setlists and more In a message dated 98-08-24 17:02:36 EDT, nephilim@concentric.net writes: << the raspberry swirl germany single is also being released this tuesday >> what is on it besides raspberry swirl? ~~ery ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Aug 1998 19:07:01 PDT From: "Marlene Magee" Subject: OH MY GOD Each show I have had the pleasure of seeing during the Plugged 98 tour has grown by leaps and bounds. The overall sound and energy put out by Tori and the band are more than amazing, as is the response from the audience. the set list from tonight's show: precious things iieee caught a lite sneeze crucify *PAST THE MISSION* the waitress liquid diamonds siren upside down *YES ANASTASIA* cruel she's your cocaine 1st encore: black-dove (january) *IN THE SPRINGTIME OF HIS VOODOO* 2nd encore: raspberry swirl *BLACK SWAN* Those of you who attended the knoxville show know what an incredible concert is was, but tonight's concert FAR outweighs it. I wish I could do a proper review of the show, but it could never be adequate enough to cover such a phenomenal and portentious show. After seeing her play in Nashville, I was sure I was living in a sort of hallucination. Everything seemed to be in suspended animation. The music and the intensity of the crowd blew me away. I am more determined than ever to see *AS MANY* more shows as possible. Ballerina Girl ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #301 *************************************