From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #276 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, August 5 1998 Volume 03 : Number 276 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Auction [KiTcAt242@aol.com] oops, that's what i get... [abbe@mit.edu] Re: Pregnancy Clue? [Leannoth@aol.com] Chords for "Tear in Your Hand" (THX! Faerie) ["Carpet Crawl" ] Conan [Persephone ] Extra DC tori ticket [Pandagrl2@aol.com] Best Buys Auction [voodoo@mail.delanet.com] Re: boston concert [Dominic Marullo ] Tori on MTV Europe - TIME SENSITIVE [=?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_Kj=E6r_Laur] Re: 1994 tour info [violet@torithoughts.org] Tori Giveaway ["Nephilim" ] Help! Tori Trade Page ["Jessica Hoag" ] Re: Pregnancy Clue? [Raspberry Swirl Girl ] Thanks a million! [EricThelen@t-online.de (Eric Thelen)] 10/23/96 [Carrie-Ellen ] positive review of FtCGH in French magazine + translation [Dennis Snelder] today i bought [HyJptrCrsh@aol.com] Live From NY Vid ["Giovanni Mantilla" ] Re: 10/23/96 ["Roadrunnnnnnner" ] Aug 5 chat [Mac456789@aol.com] a couple of web sites ["Sonya Harway" ] earrings, again [hang ten honey ] Tori Setlist for Wallingdford, CT August 4th [Funk66@aol.com] Wallingford CT Show from and old mans point of view.. ["Master Guru" ] Re: today i bought [woj sven-woj ] Re: Wallingford CT Show from and old mans point of view.. [woj sven-woj <] Re: Pregnancy Clue? [Beth Coulter ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 03:31:57 EDT From: KiTcAt242@aol.com Subject: Auction Best Buy is auctioning off two pairs of front-row seats and a meeting with Tori to most of her shows. (You need a credit card number to register) All I can say is pleeeeeeeease don't do this if you live in K.C, cos I'm going to be at that show and I want to win : ) http://www.bestbuy.com/ Good Luck all, and happy spending : ) CAT ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 00:47:17 -0400 From: abbe@mit.edu Subject: oops, that's what i get... .. for not checking the web to see if she's played there before. I guess back when a) she was playing small venues in Boston and b) i was a carless starving student, Springfield must've registered as "too far away to matter". darn, wish i'd been there! oh, and hi woj, it was nice meeting you there too. =) One final thought for the evening - Ben n' Jerry's makes, among other flavors: Cherry Garcia and Phish Phood what do you think are the chances we could get them to make a Tori's Raspberry Swirl ice cream? =) it would even be yummy. - -abbe ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 12:32:03 EDT From: Leannoth@aol.com Subject: Re: Pregnancy Clue? I have a question about Tori's former pregnancy - how far along was she before she announced that she was pregnant? If by some odd chance she were pregnant again, would she be dropping subtle hints or just come right out and say it? (I know know one here is a mind reader, and I promise I don't mean any disrespect, so please, no flames.) Thanks, Andréa. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 10:55:43 PDT From: "Carpet Crawl" Subject: Chords for "Tear in Your Hand" (THX! Faerie) Can anyone help me figure the chords to 'Tear in Your Hand'. She seems to be tickling the ivory around an "E" chord but I can't get anything else! I just heard a live MP3 of this form A Faerie's page and I have to learn it! http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/torimp3.html I want to try it on piano and guitar... Please help!!! cc ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 13:15:55 -0500 From: "Daisy Dead Petals" Subject: atlantic hey does anybody know anything about her contract with atlantic? How many albums/years shes stuck with them? Does anybody know if shes happy with them , or maybe she will switch labels when the contract runs out? I dont know if atlantic has been good (relative to other artists on their label) to tori or not, but they sure seem to like to give us fans a runaround! Daisy Melanie & Lenny Green lgreen@coredcs.com "Faeries wear boots & you gotta believe me I saw what I saw and I tell you no lies" "Remember me? You know, the tomato from upstairs?" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:01:52 -0700 (PDT) From: Persephone Subject: Conan Does anyone know if Tori is taping the Conan show on Friday or earlier? And does anyone know what time of the day she will be there? Thanks, Persephone `Be careful, honey. Come back with all your DNA intact' --Gillian Anderson == ~~~~~~ Listowner of tori-x-philes@onelist.com (lovers of tori amos and the x-files) Join at http://www.onelist.com or e-mail eyelashing@yahoo.com and write subscribe in the subject ~~~~~~ _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 17:44:01 EDT From: Pandagrl2@aol.com Subject: Extra DC tori ticket Hi everyone . well i havnt been successful in finding anyone to accompany me to the MCI show on the 8th. Which means i have an extra ticket. SO if any of you want to buy a ticket at face value, or know someone who does, PLEASE let me know asap!!!! my e-mail is Pandagrl2@aol. thanks *liz* ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 02:15:15 -0400 From: voodoo@mail.delanet.com Subject: Best Buys Auction I'm sure everyone has seen that Best Buys is doing a Auction for RAINN and OK, 3 cheers for them. However, they claim the seats to these shows are "exceptional", and mention front row in selected cities? Warning.. some of these seats are.. well.. "average". Hardly what I'd call exceptional seats, and I'd be pretty upset if I bid $400 for the pair. Of course it does go to RAINN and you sort of get a back stage pass? Or at least that's implied.. But.. just make sure you know what you are buying... R, Julien ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 01:07:15 -0500 From: Dominic Marullo Subject: Re: boston concert i thought the boston concert on aug 1st was the worst of four that i've been to. she barely talked at all, she didn't have a very good set list, and the sound wasn't all that great. some how i think tori's magic got lost in the rafters. the songs kind of dragged on, one after the other. there weren't any climaxes, just a constant buzz. even when she did cooling it was very blah. the really moving parts were winter, puting the damage on, and precious things. i guess i would look back a little differently if the concert had a better ending. she only played one song for the secong encore and it was horses, which everyone that had been to the boston show on april 25th already heard, among many other songs that we already heard. sorry to be so negative but the concert didn't move me and even tori didn't seem to be enjoying herself. i trust you will respect my opinions. - -dominic ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 10:07:49 +0200 From: =?iso-8859-1?Q?Thomas_Kj=E6r_Lauritsen?= Subject: Tori on MTV Europe - TIME SENSITIVE To all European Toriphiles : Don't forget Ultrasound with Tori on MTV Europe tomorrow Wednesday August 5 at 1830 CET - - Thomas Lauritsen Copenhagen, Denmark (work) (home) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 03:15:14 -0700 From: violet@torithoughts.org Subject: Re: 1994 tour info woj wrote: >these days, she's playing longer shows, a wider variety >of songs and even mixing up the opening three numbers (witness >"precious things" usurping "black dove" in the #1 spot (not that >great of >an idea if you ask me since i think "p t" is too much a >wallop of a song >to be the first one she plays) In my opinion, the most perfect opening was the standard from the DDI tour: Beauty Queen/Horses. It was such a very gentle, peaceful way to get things started, and as Tori would begin to hit those lone piano notes, it was amazing how the [even then, ever-more-progressively rowdy] crowd would become hushed and focus their attention. And it definitely demanded attention. In that moment, the smoke swirled, the lights twinkled, and Tori's voice -- "She-eee-eee's a bee-auty queeeeen" -- was the only sound in the world. It was impossible not to have chills running up and down your spine. It would be nice to experience that again. It was like the long, slow, steady climb to the tippy-top of a roller coaster when you know your stomach's going to stay fifty feet in the air for the rest of the ride. Violet xoxox ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 02:39:30 -0400 From: "Nephilim" Subject: Tori Giveaway Hi I dont belive this has been posted yet.. sorry if it has.. but I came across this at UBL when i was chaning my link.. i guess something good did come out of having to change the links, cause if not i would of never found out... its another giveaway.. here is the info.... http://content.ubl.com/who_cares/ UBL is glad you care about RAINN, and we're encouraging you to surf the RAINN site by offering a grand prize of a black & white lithograph portrait of Tori composed by artist William Fuentes, AND a limited edition baby tank top designed by Steve Madden. Runners up will receive the official RAINN T-shirt, and all winners will also get Tori's new CD. Just answer the following questions (hint: all the answers can be found at rainn.org) and you'll be eligible for the drawing that will take place August 15. good luck all. alex - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- - ----- The Tori Amos Corner ( http://come.to/tori.corner ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 12:27:19 -0700 From: "Jessica Hoag" Subject: Help! Tori Trade Page I'm in the middle of making a Tori Bootleg and live recording page. It will have links to peoples pages who trade tape. If you want to be on the page please email me privately with your name and web page address, or email address if you don't have a webpage and I'll put it on the page. The page with be located here http://www.angelfire.com/nh/toriphile/index.html There is nothing there yet, so email me and I'll get the page running. Thanks, Jecaca Now MailCity offers forwarding so you can check your MailCity messages and other e-mail all in one place. Go to http://www.mailcity.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 11:41:32 -0700 (PDT) From: Raspberry Swirl Girl Subject: Re: Pregnancy Clue? > this could also be her talking about her first baby "vines twist around" > sounds like a death inuendo > do you think? > kat Definatly, it makes me think she was talking about her miscarrage not a pregnancy! She didn't say baby when I saw her sing it.. my review of the Montreal concert can be found at http://www.gurlpages.com/~raspberry_swirl/tori.html bye! == Natalie Malek _ http://fly.to/raven.angel | | -===- blood_roses_@yahoo.com | "when he sucks you deep, sometime you're nothing but meat" -Blood Roses by Tori Amos _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 22:29:53 +0200 From: EricThelen@t-online.de (Eric Thelen) Subject: Thanks a million! Hi everybody. This is just to say a very big THANK YOU!!! to all of you who were so nice to us Europeans during the last days on the tour. You know who you are... I would love to stay in touch with all of you privately - right now I need to work (and sleep...). Please send me mail - I will reply within the next days. You were wonderful. Or (as the Devlins would say it): Thanks a million! Everybody enjoy 'your' shows, Eric (with a 'c') ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 03:46:04 -0400 (EDT) From: Carrie-Ellen Subject: 10/23/96 Hi everyone, Just wanted to mention this... I wanted to listen to one of the audio concerts I haven't listened to yet, so today I chose Tori's performance in Miami FL on 10.23.96. I was really surprised how "special" it seemed. It had been a really bad night for Tori apparently, and in the middle of "Space Dog" she stopped playing and broke down. She said something like "I'm sorry guys, I can't play. I'm just so sick." and apparently went off stage for about 10 minutes. Then she came out like a trooper and proceeded to play an INCREDIBLE set, which included "Let it Be" (which she said she had never played before), a beautiful version of "Winter", and "Cooling" (for the first time?). She also brought her best friend Beanie on the stage to sing "Me & a Gun" with her. What a moving performance! I can't believe I've had it for a year and never listened to it (: Although its difficult to make out what she says to the audience, its an otherwise crystal clear recording. Apparently no one knew why Tori was really upset that night, according to the Dent. But thinking back now, she lost the baby almost two months later, so she was pregnant at the time. Sometimes you can't help speculating the reason for such reactions. We think of Tori as some kind of an immortal goddess sometimes, but she is really a human being with a lot of difficulties in her life, just like all of us. Just some thoughts. |\ .(' *) ' . Carrie-Ellen Batcheller | \ ' .*) .'* UNH Babcock Hall BOX 2110 |(*\ .*(// .*) . Durham NH 03824 |___\ // (. '* ((("'\ // ' * . Starfire's Circle: ((c'7') /\) http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/9523 ((((^)) / \ Tori Amos Trade Page: .-')))(((-' / /9523/tori.html (((()) __/' )))( | Des' Page: (()http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/6580/des.htm ( __ * __ |\ /| /\ / _` | / ` | ` | /~~\ \__/ | \__/ __ __ __ __ | |__| /\ |__) |__) |_ |\ | /__` | | | /~~\ | | |__ | \| .__/ | * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 16:15:50 +0200 From: Dennis Snelders Subject: positive review of FtCGH in French magazine + translation Hi, A few days ago I returned from my holiday in France, where I came across this free music magazine called ^ÑStart Up^Ò. It features a *very* positive review of From the Choirgirl Hotel. Hervé Guilleminot, the reviewer, even says it^Òs her best album so far! Since there aren^Òt many reviews on the net from French magazines, I thought it might be interesting for others to read, so I typed it up. It^Òs in French, of course, but I did my best to translate it into English (which wasn^Òt very easy since my native language is Dutch, so the translation is bound to have a lot of mistakes) so here is the original, please scroll down for the translation. Start Up Juin 1998 no.33 Tori Amos From the Choirgirl Hotel. Tori Amos se bonifie de manière impressionnante d^Òalbum en album. Si ses deux premiers possédaient cette force intrinsèque propre à l^ÒAméricaine (capable à l^Òépoque de captiver un public avec une version très personnelle de ^ÑSmells Like Teen Spirit^Ò), elle s^Òest révélée avec ^ÑBoys for Pele^Ò, album paru il y a trois ans. Ce nouvel opus libère définitivement la belle chanteuse du carcan "rock / variété" qui la tenaillait. ^ÑFrom the Choirgirl Hotel^Ò la révèle intrigante et comploteuse, charmante et incisive, cruelle et apaisée. Rarement un album n^Òavait recueilli autant d^Òémotions contradictoires. Elle possède une voix extraordinaire et des compositions dont la variété d^Òexécution est sidérante. Ajoutez une production (trop?) professionnelle et des audaces instrumentales constantes: ^ÑFrom the Choirgirl Hotel^Ò est l^Òexcellente surprise de ce premier semestre, dans le domaine d^Òune "variété" de qualité^Å *English Translation:* Start Up June 1998 no.33 Tori Amos From the Choirgirl Hotel. With every album, Tori Amos betters herself in a stunning way. As her first two albums had this inner force, characteristic to the American woman (capable at the time of fascinating a crowd with a very personal version of ^ÑSmells Like Teen Spirit^Ò), she has developed with ^ÑBoys for Pele^Ò, which was released three years ago. This new work of hers frees the beautiful singer definitely of the name "rock / variety" that haunted her. ^ÑFrom the Choirgirl Hotel^Ò proves her to be intriguing, charming, sharp, cruel and cool. Rarely has an album been able to evoke so many contradictory emotions. She has an extraordinary voice and compositions whose variety of execution is almost frightening. Add a (too?) professional production and constant, audacious instruments: ^ÑFrom the Choirgirl Hotel^Ò is the excellent surprise of the first semester, in the domain of a ^Ñvariety^Ò in qualities^Å Hervé Guilleminot - -- Dennis Snelders e-mail: dsnelders@geocities.com Dutch Tori Amos page 'Little Amsterdam': http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/lot/1017/littleamsterdam.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 20:19:46 EDT From: HyJptrCrsh@aol.com Subject: today i bought i bought this video tori boot, and i have 2 questions/comments about it. 1) on this, it is a '92 show, tori talks for at LEAST 15 minutes.. she tells a cute story about her in amsterdam, and she spoke some german! :) she talked about Phil Collons (i spelled *that* wrong) and everything. but she talked so much, and now she just mumbles something about a living room and doesnt talk for a 2 minutes the whole show. i am disappointed (that part was for precious things) 2) this boot has the following songs: Mary, Crucify, SATY, Precious Things, Happy Phantom, Leather, TIYH, Upside Down (although it is listed as "turn your world upside down") Whole Lotta Love (very energetic) Me and a gun, Winter, SLTS, China, Here. In My Head and Angie. It is called "tori amos, Live Beacon Th. NY, 1992, 100 minutes" it is a one camera show but done well. how much might this be worth? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 19:56:44 -0500 From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: Live From NY Vid Hey all, I just wanted to tell you all that today I got my copy of the "Live From New York" video which I ordered just last week from Music Boulevard (VERY impressive!!!, it took less than a week for it to get here; the last time I had to wait a month! I'm still waiting for some CDs though...) and I must say it is beautiful. I had already seen 8 songs from the concert on the HBO Olé broadcast, but getting to see the whole thing was just amazing. Beauty Queen/Horses was particularly interesting since I had never heard or seen Tori doing these songs live. It was beautiful, but one thing that I regret is that I was very tired at the moment I was watching the video, and this definitely lessened my experience. Upside Down is my favorite moment from the concert; this is probably one of my all-time favorite Tori songs and the performance was outstanding. I'm oh so happy that she decided to do it on this show. Little Amsterdam was also very very interesting because she really seemed to be into it and that change during the 'boy you are my fifth avenue' was surprising. Precious Things is also one of my all-time faves and this performance was amazing... the 'grrl' part rocked! Little Earthquakes was also extremely beautiful and The Waitress was unbelievable. I'm still getting used to the Plugged '98 version of this song, though. Beautiful video... I recommend it to all those who still don't have it! Fumbling towards his new and still-not-here Tori CDs, Giovanni http://come.to/corncity ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 14:24:23 -0700 From: "Roadrunnnnnnner" Subject: Re: 10/23/96 hi, i was wondering if there is *any* way i can get a copy of this show this was a special one for me and i have been trying to find it since that night :( i am willing to trade or pay for it... i don't have too much to trade, but i do have a handfull of boots please please please..... *holding my breath* faerie kisses- icycle - -----Original Message----- From: Carrie-Ellen To: precious-things@smoe.org ; tori-boot@world.std.com ; rdtrn@torithoughts.org Date: Tuesday, August 04, 1998 12:53 AM Subject: 10/23/96 > >Hi everyone, > >Just wanted to mention this... > >I wanted to listen to one of the audio concerts I haven't listened to yet, >so today I chose Tori's performance in Miami FL on 10.23.96. I was really >surprised how "special" it seemed. It had been a really bad night for >Tori apparently, and in the middle of "Space Dog" she stopped playing and >broke down. She said something like "I'm sorry guys, I can't play. I'm >just so sick." and apparently went off stage for about 10 minutes. Then >she came out like a trooper and proceeded to play an INCREDIBLE set, which >included "Let it Be" (which she said she had never played before), a >beautiful version of "Winter", and "Cooling" (for the first time?). She >also brought her best friend Beanie on the stage to sing "Me & a Gun" with >her. What a moving performance! I can't believe I've had it for a year >and never listened to it (: Although its difficult to make out what she >says to the audience, its an otherwise crystal clear recording. > >Apparently no one knew why Tori was really upset that night, according to >the Dent. But thinking back now, she lost the baby almost two months >later, so she was pregnant at the time. Sometimes you can't help >speculating the reason for such reactions. We think of Tori as some kind >of an immortal goddess sometimes, but she is really a human being with a >lot of difficulties in her life, just like all of us. > > >Just some thoughts. > > |\ .(' *) ' . Carrie-Ellen Batcheller > | \ ' .*) .'* UNH Babcock Hall BOX 2110 > |(*\ .*(// .*) . Durham NH 03824 > |___\ // (. '* > ((("'\ // ' * . Starfire's Circle: > ((c'7') /\) http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/9523 > ((((^)) / \ Tori Amos Trade Page: > .-')))(((-' / /9523/tori.html > (((()) __/' > )))( | Des' Page: > (()http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/Hangar/6580/des.htm > > __ * __ > |\ /| /\ / _` | / ` > | ` | /~~\ \__/ | \__/ > __ __ __ __ | > |__| /\ |__) |__) |_ |\ | /__` | > | | /~~\ | | |__ | \| .__/ | > * > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 4 Aug 1998 23:01:10 EDT From: Mac456789@aol.com Subject: Aug 5 chat Hi. Did anyone catch the Aug 5th, live chat? I completely forgot! I was so busy yesterday! Just wondering if there was anything newsworthy or interesting... : ) s. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 20:52:34 PDT From: "Sonya Harway" Subject: a couple of web sites I was told to visit Uncle Sam's music and Rainy Day Records and was given urls for the latter, but it seem to be incorrect. And I don't have the address for Uncle Sam's at all. Does anyone have the correct urls? The one I was given: http://www.rainy.com thank you!! love, sonya =Thank you for your squirrel= ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 04 Aug 1998 23:22:07 -0500 From: hang ten honey Subject: earrings, again i know this is slightly irrelevant, but.. awhile back there was a discussion about tori's earrings and how she *always* wears the same pair.. the last time i was close to her [7/17] she was wearing ruby/diamond studs instead of her trademark flat hoopy ones. yeah. ana. i'm gonna go where she goes. http://www.overlap.org bootlist: http://www.overlap.org/bootlegs.html ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 00:36:06 EDT From: Funk66@aol.com Subject: Tori Setlist for Wallingdford, CT August 4th This is the setlist for Wallingford, CT, August 4th. Tori was wonderful tonight. She was wearing a b3eige sparkly apron like thing over navy (black?) pants and a navy (black?) shirt that came off her shoulders. The Devlins were very good as always. SET LIST Precious Things (during "With their nine inch nails..."' she slid her hands up the insides of her thighs to her crotch) God (adding, "You dropped that bible on me, sweet Jesus-you'll do it again") :::At this point she does a little hand dance while sitting at the Bosey::: Playboy Mommy :::Another little hand dance::: Iiee Caught a Lite Sneeze Liquid Diamonds :::Secret (I think she said "Private" though) Time::: (Solo, the band leaves) Mother Here in My Head (The band comes back) Space Dog Rasberry Swirl (with lots of colored lights) The Waitress (very long, and dramatic, with bright white flashing lights) 1st Encore She's Your Cocain Little Amsterdam (She aded a little trill somewhere in the middle of the song) 2nd Encore Happy Phantom Pandora (The disco balls came on at this point) Over all, this show kicked ass, and as my friend Amy put it, "Put the Madison Square Garden show to shame". Anyway, I was very happy that she played Here In MyHead. Anyway, I hope someone made a boot of this concert, even though there was no Landslide. ~~Alex ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 00:50:24 -0400 From: "Master Guru" Subject: Wallingford CT Show from and old mans point of view.. Unfortunately, i have NO recollection of the setlist, but i think maybe i'll share my experiences here, maybe some of you can relate, maybe some of the newer fans will just hate me but... The first time i saw Tori play was on the LE tour, at The Orpheum Theatre in Boston, i remember her coming on stage and sitting, waiting for silence from the audience, and we respected that..and she repeated that before every song..absolute silence. Anyways, i remember hearing the first 8 or 10 notes of each song, and chills running down my spine. When she played Winter, it was like my mother had died just then, i got all choked up, and i'm NOT an emotional person, but she really had that effect on me. It was intimate, she made us laugh, she joked between songs, told little stories, it was an extremely personal show, nevermind the fact that when she sang Me and a Gun, you could have heard a feather drop on the other side of the concert hall... I just got home from the Wallingford CT show..and i was terribly dissappointed to say the least, sure maybe i miss "the girl and the piano" but the experience wasn't the same. With fans screaming and yelling in the middle of songs (I DESPISE that) and her playing from one song, right into another, no intimacy, it was lost. I should say, that i don't dislike the way she sounds with the band, in fact Precious Things was incredible with them, and i don't dislike the new album either. But the experience wasn't the same. It was completely material, like watching her on television and such. Sadly to say, this was the smallest venue on this tour i beleive, and thats really a shame. But anyways, thats just my 2 cents. I still love her music, and what she has to say, but i don't like the experience of watching and hearing her play anymore :( People say that musicians change, and evolve and whatnot, and sure, i agree with that, but i miss the girl that used to give me chills, and make me want to cry with 8 notes and one line into a song... Phil ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 00:55:04 EDT From: JiVaDiVa@aol.com Subject: Fellow EWF, I need your support!!! Hi guys, You may not remember me, but chances are you remember my tale. A month or two ago, my boyfriend publicly humiliated himself for a local radio station to get me Tori tickets. Some rather disturbing circumstances have come to pass since then, and I need your support and advice. To refresh your memory, my bf Chris ran two miles through downtown in boxers and a zebra striped bra (just so that I would finally get to see Tori), while I was degraded on-air by the sleazy morning dj, Zakk Tyler. We left the station that day with smiles on our faces and the promise that the tickets would arrive at the end of the week. Zakk announced over the air waves that we would be recieving 3rd row tickets to the show at Chastain Park on the 17th. Weeks passed, and then a month had come and gone, and still no tickets. Zakk did not return our calls or voice mail messages. He always managed to be conveniently out of the office. When Chris finally did get in touch with him, he made excuses about how "lines had gotten crossed" and that the tickets were on the way. Two days later, Chris popped up at my door with two Tori tickets. Not 3rd row, but 19th. Oh well, it's Tori. I don't care if I'm sitting in the middle of the highway as long as I can hear her voice. Well, yesterday, his sister told me that Zakk Tyler was did not get the tickets. That he gave Chris some BS excuse that "we were supposed to remind him" (i think 15 voice mails, calls, and messages a week is suffice)... and that since Chris couldn't bear to have me dissappointed, he went out the same day and bought the tickets himself. After all the sh*t he went through. The thing is, I don't know how we should handle this. If I gave in to my violent side, I'd crush the little pervert's skull... but I won't. I'm asking that anyone out there would care to stand by me in this to send an email to Zakk Tyler at Dz033168@aol.com, or go to the link here for the station: Rock For Your World - 93.3 Please tell me what I should do. This is so unfair to us. Thanks and Blessings, Joanie ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 18:21:27 -0400 From: woj sven-woj Subject: wallingford moments after sending off my review of the springfield show on monday night, i received a note from richard handal saying, and i paraphrase, "gods help me, i'm thinking of coming up from d.c. for the wallingford show." naturally, i told him that was a silly thing to do, but that it was perfectly understandable and that he should. a few minutes later, there was a note with prices for an amtrak ticket from washington to wallingford. if i hadn't gone to bed, i would have seem the final note saying that he'd booked a ticket and was going to arrive in wallingford in the afternoon. what a silly, silly, silly man...but at least he has his priorities straight. if he isn't already, he should be an inspiration to us all! ;) i got home from work and picking up don keller at the train station (an ex-precious-things subscriber who came up from new york city) around 6:30. meredith arrived a little bit later and, after i left a voice mail with richard telling him who to look for, we headed out for a quick dinner and then on to the oakdale theater. again, we arrived kinda sorta in the middle of the devlins set and hung out in the lobby beforehand. i recognized richard meandering around looking for us, so we walked over and chatted with him for a while (nice to meet you finally!) and then took our seats, which were on the left side of the mid orchestra, probably 40-50 rows back. while obviously not the best seats in the house, there really aren't any awful seats in the oakdale, which is a decent venue as largish theaters go. again, everyone's beaten me to the punch on the setlist, but let me reiterate the general comment of "wow!". i was expecting *some* variation from the springfield show, but not what amounted to practically an entirely different set! there were only five repeated songs ("precious things", "liquid diamonds", "raspberry swirl", "the waitress" and "little amsterdam"), and, as you all know, a number of surprises: "happy phantom", "here. in my head", "mother", "space dog" and, of course, "pandora's aquarium". i would have gladly traded "happy phantom" or "swirl" for any number of other songs and "little amsterdam" for another song which has "little" as the first word of its title, but i don't think i'd tamper too much with the rest of the setlist. (well, duh!) i was particuarly happy to hear the other songs from ftcgh which she didn't play two nights earlier in springfield. the performance was marvelous. having a rest day on monday certainly seems to have made a difference since her voice sounded great throughout and not even a tiny bit strained as it was on sunday. i must say that i've really enjoyed the band shows. i expected that i would, but it's good to have hunches confirmed. much as i like the more intimate venues, it was really great to see the show on the oakdale's large stage. the band was cramped together on springfield's small stage. at the oakdale, they were able to spread out and find some breathing space. combined with the full light show (which didn't fit into the symphony hall), i think the rock band experience was a lot more effective. afterwards, i was all prepared to throw caution to the wind and drive up to albany tonight, but it doesn't look that happened. i guess i need to work on my handal emulation... ;) woj ps. the oakdale tape came out as well as the springfield tape. if you're interested, you know what to do. ;) - ----- End forwarded message ----- ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:05:22 -0400 From: woj sven-woj Subject: Re: today i bought also sprach HyJptrCrsh@aol.com (HyJptrCrsh@aol.com): >i bought this video tori boot, and i have 2 questions/comments about it. >1) on this, it is a '92 show, tori talks for at LEAST 15 minutes.. she tells a >cute story about her in amsterdam, and she spoke some german! :) she talked >about Phil Collons (i spelled *that* wrong) and everything. but she talked so >much, and now she just mumbles something about a living room and doesnt talk >for a 2 minutes the whole show. i am disappointed (that part was for precious >things) i'm a bit of a heathen on this particular issue. tori's between song banter is almost always entertaining, but i'm not particulary attached to it. with the trouble her voice has been having lately, i'm not surprised that she has been quiet between songs, conserving her larynx for singing instead of talking. then again, maybe she's cutting down on the chat to maximize the number of songs she can play or doesn't want to bore the rest of the band while she chatters away. could be all sorts of reasons for why she's less talkative -- who knows, really. >It is called "tori amos, Live Beacon >Th. NY, 1992, 100 minutes" it is a one camera show but done well. how much >might this be worth? the date and location are incorrect. that show was recorded at the palace theater in albany (the same place she is playing tonight in fact). i don't recall the exact date of the show but it was probably the end of september or early october in 1992. tori did not play the beacon theater in new york city until the under the pink tour in 1994 (in 1992 in new york, she played the bottom line in april and town hall in october). as for its worth, well, you should be able to find this amongst the traders for the cost of a video tape and postage. if you buy it, video bootlegs will sell anywhere between $15 and $30. that's not a re-sale value though, especially since this is a fairly common tape (in fact, i think i know who recorded the original, if i remeber correctly...and it wasn't me! ;) ). woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 5 Aug 1998 19:52:51 -0400 From: woj sven-woj Subject: Re: Wallingford CT Show from and old mans point of view.. also sprach Master Guru (mguru@revolutionist.com): > Unfortunately, i have NO recollection of the setlist, but i think maybe >i'll share my experiences here, maybe some of you can relate, maybe some of >the newer fans will just hate me but... i hope no one hates you -- you have a valid point and i'm sure it's one that some or even many will agree with. > The first time i saw Tori play was on the LE tour, at The Orpheum Theatre >in Boston, i remember her coming on stage and sitting, waiting for silence >from the audience, and we respected that..and she repeated that before every >song..absolute silence. the first time i saw tori was at the bottom line in new york (in fact, the very show that is immortalized on the "little earthquakes" video). the second was a week later at the iron horse in northampton, ma. they were the same way: very special shows for everyone in the audience and, doubtless, her as well. i wish so much that everyone could have had that experience, and not only because it's so unlikely that anyone will have that opportunity again. > I just got home from the Wallingford CT show..and i was terribly >dissappointed to say the least, sure maybe i miss "the girl and the piano" >but the experience wasn't the same. With fans screaming and yelling in the >middle of songs (I DESPISE that) and her playing from one song, right into >another, no intimacy, it was lost. i agree, but i don't think there has been much intimacy in her shows since those early days. even small theaters lack the close-contact that is needed to duplicate the full effect of seeing her play from ten feet away (unless you're sitting in the front row of course). maybe you "had to be there", but no show i've seen has held a candle to that iron horse gig as far as emotional intensity goes. on the other hand, none of those early gigs hold a candle to these past couple days in terms of physical ferocity and sheer magnificence. basking in that display of power left me shaking and, as some will no doubt attest, banging my head against a table in the lobby in sheer amazement. (i kid you not.) screaming fans aren't exactly a new phenomenon either -- there has been railings about that as far back as 1992. i'm not exactly a fan of that kind of enthusiasm, but that that kind of exuberence is what tori is tapping into this tour. i mean, why else would she play "raspberry swirl"? ;) but seriously, this tour is nothing like the past tours. it *is* a rock show and that sort of thing happens at rock shows. that's not to say you or anyone who doesn't enjoy rock shows is stupid or should have known better. that's just to say that this is what happens and that i don't think it's too inappropriate for the kind of show this is. > People say that musicians change, and evolve and whatnot, and sure, i >agree with that, but i miss the girl that used to give me chills, and make >me want to cry with 8 notes and one line into a song... for what it's worth, i have no doubt that she'll be back some day. her performance of "mother" nad "here. in my head" after shooing the band off last night is a testament to that. i dunno if the band thing is something that she's doing just to get it out of her system or what, but i think she enjoyed performing those two solo songs much too much to turn her back on the girl and her piano thing. woj ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 05 Aug 1998 01:40:49 -0400 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Re: Pregnancy Clue? She didn't announce it. She only confessed it in an interview after she finished with choirgirl. If she was pregnant now, I think the *subtle hint* would be the sudden canceling of all shows past september or so. At 12:32 PM 8/4/98 EDT, Leannoth@aol.com wrote: > >I have a question about Tori's former pregnancy - how far along was she before >she announced that she was pregnant? If by some odd chance she were pregnant >again, would she be dropping subtle hints or just come right out and say it? >(I know know one here is a mind reader, and I promise I don't mean any >disrespect, so please, no flames.) > >Thanks, >Andréa. > > ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #276 *************************************