From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #253 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, July 14 1998 Volume 03 : Number 253 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Under The Pink / More Pink... the b sides [Robert L Reynolds ] Misc. ["Ray Bailey" ] Wrong address [HopelsDrmr@aol.com] Re: attilla the honey?... [Robert L Reynolds ] UtP vinyl:black or pink ["glytter grrl" ] Re: boot list (maybe) ["Katie Meeker" ] Who Anastasia Romanov was [Richard Handal ] the tori ring poll [meade ] Newsweek Magazine Article & "Yes Anastasia" [JupiterCMS@aol.com] Lip Gloss Rasberry Swirl is coming..... [Tripp Gwyn ] Apologies about trades-pt. 2 [Simon Booth ] video material for copying/trading (albiet a short list) [Simon Booth ] Re: Misc. ["'Litz" ] Tori in Star Tribune today [roller girl ] Ames, IA tix & music videos request [shannon ] Re: just a question ["Shaigirl 18/f" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:17:02 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert L Reynolds Subject: Re: Under The Pink / More Pink... the b sides I checked just a minute ago and the price has gone up to 50 dollars U.S. - -Rob ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Robert Reynolds rreynol3@utk.edu UT Hodges Library Serials Dept. Dark Prince "If you call me an airy-fairy new age hippy waif, I will cut your penis off." -Tori Amos http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/9346/main1.html ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:53:49 EDT From: ToriBoi@aol.com Subject: Under The Pink / More Pink... the b sides MORE PINK is for sale at Gaslight records... you can buy from them online! I have been looking for this cd new or used for years now! It's great. I got it for 57 austrailian moneys, which is somewhere around 30 american dollars.. The cd is a double, CD 1 being Under The Pink, CD 2 being More PInk, the track listing is as follows: A Case Of YOu Honey Daisy Dead Petals SIster Janet Sugar Take To The Sky Upside Down Flying Dutchman Here, In My Head Black Swan Little Drummer Boy Not only all that, but i got it BRAND NEW!!! WOW.. the website is a little hard to understand, so i reccomend a phone call or an email! the web link is: Gaslight Music ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 13 Jul 1998 23:32:53 -0500 From: roller girl Subject: boot list (maybe) so, there isn't a LIST that has links to people's sites and stuff. there are webrings and whatnot, but webring (in my opinion) is slow and not all its cracked up to be. so if you're interested in a link to your bootleg listings with no graphics and stuff, visit http://members.xoom.com/notsosoft/tori to find more into. (: .ally. we nego t iate {i am an ally } with c h a o s {icicle@hempseed.com } for some sense { } of satisfaction {tori amos in clip } {http://come.to/tori-amos} http://members.xoom.com/notsosoft ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 00:01:21 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Misc. > I was just wondering this while I sit toiling away at my computer, >i've heard rent reznor sang backup on LE(the song, not the album) >does anyone know if this is true? >jes > faerie blessings... Personally, I have no idea, but that poses an interesting question... why didn't she credit the guest vocals when in "Past The Mission" she credited Trent there? Hmmm... anyone that can answer, I would be obliged. >Okay. I know something the overseas people don't! Makes >me suddenly feel like a fountain of knowledge. Heh, that was very cute. Sorry, I just felt like I had to say that it made me smile. Hope I don't sound really dorky. Hi All! >I can across a few copies of Rolling Stone and AP with Tori on the >cover yesterday. I know they are getting harder to find now, so if >any of you Toriphiles didn't pick one up... ~~~michaela~ I'm pleased to say that I got a copy of each, but thanks for the offer! =) Question: So the Spark video ISN'T released in the US yet or is? Someone please let me know, I wanna see it! ;) - -=-Ray-=- ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:40:00 EDT From: HopelsDrmr@aol.com Subject: Wrong address Sorry guys wrong hookup, that's to the it while it was in progress here is the new address, disregard the last ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 07:50:36 -0400 (EDT) From: Robert L Reynolds Subject: Re: attilla the honey?... OK, since as far as I can tell no one's responded to this yet, I'll go for it. Number one: I hear she sang the song "Attila the Honey" at an early wedding performance, which you can hear on the Tori Stories boot. Number two: She's making a little smartie about Attila the Hun, a barbaric (pardon me if this isn't the word I should be using, but that's the image that comes to mind) conquerer. I'd do a search for him on Yahoo if you're interested enough. :) So she's appealing to her Sven the Viking side and referring to herself as Attila the Honey. This is kind of along the lines of the Flying Dutchman ghost ship that a lot of people haven't figured out yet. But hey, they're both interesting little things or Tori wouldn't bring them up. :) Tori hugs, - -Rob ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Robert Reynolds rreynol3@utk.edu UT Hodges Library Serials Dept. Dark Prince "If you call me an airy-fairy new age hippy waif, I will cut your penis off." -Tori Amos http://www.geocities.com/TelevisionCity/Set/9346/main1.html ~~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ On Mon, 13 Jul 1998 RsberySwrl@aol.com wrote: > > Okay...excuse me for my ignorance but I have heard tori describe herself as > "Attilla the Honey" and I was just wondering what or who is "Attilla the > Honey"?..just wondering//thanks! > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:32:14 EDT From: HopelsDrmr@aol.com Subject: My new site Hello all! Well This is my Tori Amos Site, and I am so happy to have it available to you all. Tell me what you think, I need your posts. noTORIous_Amos there's the quick link ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:01:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Simon Booth Subject: Apologies about trades I am very sorry about the constant delays in getting the trades going that I've arranged with some of you. There seems to be so much going on and I get totally sidetracked, and it's hard to get to my email in a timely fashion to keep everyone updated. Please accept my apologies and I hope I haven't ended up on the bad trade lists. Simon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:24:36 EDT From: "glytter grrl" Subject: UtP vinyl:black or pink how do i know if my record is black or pink? i have one...but not opened. i'd really rather not open it, so any info would be appreciated. thanks! ~~becka ICQ#14314488 AOL IM - SwyngBaybe ~~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~ I'm so tired, let me go to Austin.------Jill Jack And I have to get to Texas---Tori Amos ~~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~ http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/3011 ~~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~ http://members.ismi.net/monger ~~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 06:18:01 -0700 From: "Katie Meeker" Subject: Re: boot list (maybe) on my tori page (still in development--only has links at this point), I have started a list of links to different trading pages as well...if anyone would like to be included in this listing, please e-mail me with your URL and I would be more than happy to add you... by the way, my tori page is at: http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/dragon.tear/tori.html and my tori trading page is at: http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/dragon.tear/toritrade.html/ , though it needs a little updating right now... if you could check out the rest of my page as well, I would really appreciate it...if you have Netscape lower than 3.0 then you might experience some problems due to the changes that gurlpages has been making...but if you enter through my tori page to navigate around and avoid my index page, you should be fine... and please sign my guestbook so I know that you've been there... thanks... Katie - --- DrAgOn'S.TeArS--ThE wInDoW tO mY sOuL... http://www.gurlpages.com/nolabel/dragon.tear/index.html >so, there isn't a LIST that has links to people's sites and stuff. there are >webrings and whatnot, but webring (in my opinion) is slow and not all its >cracked up to be. so if you're interested in a link to your bootleg >listings with no graphics and stuff, visit >http://members.xoom.com/notsosoft/tori to find more into. > >(: > > .ally. > > > > >we nego t iate {i am an ally } >with c h a o s {icicle@hempseed.com } >for some sense { } >of satisfaction {tori amos in clip } > {http://come.to/tori-amos} >http://members.xoom.com/notsosoft > > > > > get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:11:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Who Anastasia Romanov was Joey said: > I'm not much on history or fairy tales, but can somebody explain in > detail what Anastasia is?? Violet's swamped with things these days, but once upon a time she would get these huge files together giving background on a number of interesting things and send them out to the lists. She still does it, if a bit less often these days since she's so busy running a mailing list, etc., but at any rate, here's a repost of something she sent in to Precious Things and RDT on May first of last year. I'm just reposting this. Violet deserves all the thanks for compiling it. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ___________________________________________________________________ [Violet's current email is violet@torithoughts.org --Richard] >From: violet@slip.net >Date: Thu, 1 May 1997 06:09:53 -0700 >To: rdt@novia.net >Subject: Anastasia >Cc: precious-things@smoe.org [...] I just put together a ton of info on Anastasia for a Torifan who asked if I knew anything about her. I figured I might as well share it here, especially since I flaked on telling you guys the result of the DNA testing that was revealed in the Nova episode last year. Anastasia Romanov, daughter of Nicholas II (last czar of Russia), was executed by the Bolsheviks in 1918 along with the rest of her family. For many years, her body was missing (along with her brother's) and people thought she might have managed to escape after all. A woman by the name of Anna Anderson surfaced in 1922 claiming to be Anastasia. Many people believed her, many didn't. She died in 1984, still a mystery. However DNA tests performed a couple of years ago determined that she was absolutely NOT Anastasia; it is believed that she was a Polish factory worker named Franzisca Schanzkowska who had been missing for decades. Anna Anderson's DNA closely matched that of one of Franzisca's relatives, and in DNA testing, "close" is amazingly accurate since only relatives of each other tend to have DNA that even remotely matches. Since then, the bones of Anastasia and her younger brother, Alexei, were discovered in a grave in a very remote section of forest (where soldiers tried to burn the corpses before burying them them -- it was one of the soldier's testimonies that helped researchers locate the missing bodies). After DNA testing proved positively that the two skeletons were members of the Romanov family, it's now certain that none of them survived the massacre. There IS some confusion between scientists about whether the female body was Anastasia or her sister Marie, but most think it's Anastasia. If I'm remembering right, Anastasia was 17 when she was killed. Films: There was a great film made last year by HBO films titled "Rasputin." Because Rasputin was around the Romanovs a great deal and worked with them in his capacity as a "healer," much of their story shows up in the movie, including the takeover by the Bolsheviks and the family's massacre. But the most interesting thing is that the film shows how Anastasia's and Alexei's bodies were taken into the woods while the other five family members' bodies were buried elsewhere. (You can probably find this film at a video store. It was made last year and stars Alan Rickman). Another film is the classic "Anastasia" with Ingrid Bergman which was made in 1956. This film is based on Anna Anderson's claim that she was Anastasia and is told from that viewpoint. Ingrid won an Oscar for her performance. You can also look for another film of nearly the same title - -- "Anastasia: The Mystery of Anna" -- that was made in 1986. It stars Amy Irving as Anna and is basically the same story as that in the Ingrid Bergman film, but it's not as good. Books: There are several books that will tell you more about the daily life of Anastasia and her family, but my favorite is titled "Anastasia," although I've forgotten who the author is. I can look it up, if you want. Anyway, that's the first one that you should look at. But there ARE other good ones out there (I'm thinking there's one other with the title of "Anastasia," which might be why I can't remember who wrote the one I like; but I know it when I see it -- it's a pretty thick book). TV: There was a great documentary made for PBS a couple of years ago, but I don't know that you'd be able to find it anywhere. It was on Nova -- maybe you could find it in a library? Some video stores have a section with tapes of PBS documentary series -- maybe you'll get lucky. By the way, for those of you who are familiar with Tori's story about how she came to write "Anastasia," you will remember that it was the spirit of Anna Anderson who wanted Tori to "tell her story." At the time, Tori said she didn't know for certain whether Anna WAS Anastasia or not, but that she thought she probably was. Just goes to show that even Tori can be wrong from time to time. ;) The following bits are various news items and such about Anastasia. O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O [This is a synopsis from the Teacher's Guide for the "Anastasia" episode of Nova.] During the Bolshevik Revolution of 1917, Czar Nicholas Romanov II was overthrown and exiled to the town of Ekaterinburg. In the middle of the night of July 16, 1918, Bolshevik guards, using the pretense that the Romanovs were in danger, led the Czar and his family into a basement and killed them. Although reports indicated that no one survived, some people believe that one of the Czar's daughters, Princess Anastasia, may have escaped. In 1922 a woman claiming to be Anastasia surfaced in Berlin. Six years later, she visited the United States and registered in a hotel using the name Anna Anderson. Relatives, doctors, and former acquaintances of the Romanovs interviewed and studied her, but until the advent of DNA analysis,no one could prove or disprove her claim with certainty. NOVA investigates this mystery, presenting personal testimonies, evidence from DNA tests, and extensive efforts to determine her true identity. O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O [This article is from early 1994, shortly before the DNA testing was done.] Did any Romanovs survive the 1919 massacre? Genetic testing may decide. By Dean Robinson Science has already solved one great historical mystery--the fate of Russia's last czar, Nicholas II,whose bones were unearthed with those of his family outside Ekaterinberg, Russia, and authenticated by genetic testing. Now the same method will help sort through the muddle of people claiming links to Nicholas's youngest children, Alexei and Anastasia Romanov,believed by many to have escaped their family's 1918 massacre by the Bolsheviks. The stakes are huge: definitive identification of some of history's most romantic figures; a bit part in Russian politics; benefits from a possible media bonanza; and, most intriguingly, a potential claim on a hoard of gold rumored to have been stashed by Nicholas. Most aspiring Romanovs are either charlatans or deluded. But the Ekaterinberg find has touched off a high-tech Cinderella search, attracting many offers of "royal" DNA for comparison to the genetic material in the bones. Efforts are already under way in several cases, including that of the most famous alleged Anastasia, the late Anna Anderson of Charlottesville, Virginia. Like Russian history itself, the hunt for Anastasia and Alexei is populated with weird characters. The Anderson case alone has attracted legal briefs from everyone from the Russian Nobility Association to one "Anastasia Romanov" of St. Petersburg Beach, Florida, who thinks she's Anderson's long-lost daughter. And now an ancient German baron may hold the key to solving the puzzle. Meanwhile, a U.S. public-relations firm called Wink Inc. has emerged as a self-styled clearinghouse for purported Romanovs--including a woman in Scottsdale, Arizona, who says her late husband was the czar's only son. (This particular Alexei taught Ronald Reagan how to ride a horse, Wink claims.) Just how many would-be royals are out there? "We feel there are eight," says Richard Sutz, vice president of Wink. "Five Alexeis and three Anastasias." Of these, the case of Anna Anderson may be the first and most prominent to be resolved. Celebrated in articles, books, and a 1956 Ingrid Bergman movie, Anderson was cremated in 1984 after dying at age 82. Last summer, however, a couple that was friendly with her learned that a Charlottesville hospital still has part of Anderson's intestine from a procedure performed years earlier. Because the czar's alleged daughter had no heirs--she acknowledged no children, and her husband died in 1990--the couple sued the hospital to free up Anderson's tissue for genetic testing. Anderson's friends have a personal motive: The wife, Marina Schweitzer, is a granddaughter of Eugene Botkin, the czar's doctor. Anderson said Botkin was murdered along with her family, but his bones weren't identified with genetic certainty. If Anderson was indeed Anastasia, then Schweitzer would know her grandfather's fate. But as soon as the suit was filed, things got messy. Late last year, the judge gave an official say to the secretive Russian Nobility Association, a group of Emigres that has insisted Anderson was an impostor, and to the long-lost "daughter" in Florida. A bitter Richard Schweitzer thinks the obstructionist RNA wants to protect its self-proclaimed authority on Russian history--and, perhaps, dreams of the gold that Schweitzer says the czar kept in London as dowry for his daughters. The rumored hoard can't be confirmed; the RNA won't comment. The Florida woman, known as Ellen Kailing until she changed her name to Anastasia Romanov last year, is even curiouser. She says she didn't learn her true identity until 1990 but is certain great wealth awaits her--and that the Russian throne awaits her 16-year-old son. "I would say that history will turn 180 degrees around," she says, amid bizarre tales of plots and attempts on her life. To fend off such challengers, Schweitzer thinks he can rely on 86-year-old Baron Ulrich von Gienanth, executor of a series of wills Anderson made while living in Germany in the 1940s and 1950s --probably the only credible Anderson wills in existence. If his legal standing is confirmed, the baron apparently wants Anderson's tissue to be tested as soon as possible. Testing at the English lab that verified the czar's bones would cost the Schweitzers 10,000 pounds ($14,750). But that kind of expense doesn't deter other royal wanna-bes, including Canadian resident Sandra Romanov, who claims her late husband was Alexei. "I would like ten labs to be involved," she says. "That way there'll be no hanky-panky." The Wink PR agency has offered to spring for testing of other alleged Romanovs--in return for book and film rights, of course.Wink's Sutz says the firm considered targeting the gold hoard, too, but decided to skip "an enormously long and difficult legal battle." Thinking of claiming the Russian throne yourself? Beware: Even Wink has standards. "We would have to have some kind of screening," says Sutz. "It's just like a crime: There are always 50 people who will pop up and admit to it." O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O [This article mentions a little about the confusion about which bones were buried where, but all agree that all members of the Romanov family are now accounted for. It was written after the DNA testing had been done on Anna Anderson.] After The Execution According to Massie's article in the August issue of The New Yorker, the site of the Romanov bones had been discovered in 1979 but were not allowed to be exhumed until July 11, 1991. Dr.Sergei Abramov headed the Russian team to identify the bones. They did not have enough money for DNA testing so they, "matched skull formations to photographs, calculated similarities and probabilities of likeness"("The Last Romanov Mystery" 78). His results showed that the bones are the remains of the Romanov family and that two bodies were missing: Alexi, the tzarevich, and Marie (pictured opposite). Dr.William Maples headed the American team that went to Ekaterinberg to assist in the identification process. Dr.Maples used hip bones and dental remains to conclude that the two missing bodies are Alexi and Anastasia (pictured below) since none of the skeletons, "were young enough to have belonged to Anastasia" ("The Last Romanov Mystery" 82). In Yakov Yurovsky's account of the murders, he states that he burned two bodies near the burial site, one being Alexi and the other he was not able to recall. Dr. Abramov still believes his findings are correct and that Marie was burned along with her brother. Maples claims that his results are more accurate ("The Last Romanov Mystery" 83). A third country entered the scientific investigations, England, headed by Dr. Peter Gill. It is this team that has wrestled with all the DNA testing. To begin, they had to contact distant relatives to the tzar and the empress. The DNA from the blood samples given matched with the DNA from the bones. Along with Abramov and Maples, Gill declared the bones to be those of the Romanov family. Gill's DNA testing does not solve the question regarding the Grand Duchesses. What it does solve is the mystery of Anastasia. While the scientists debate between Anastasia and Marie, we now know that no one survived the execution. In September of 1994, remains left by Anna Anderson (the woman who had the strongest claim as The Grand Duchess) proved that she is not Anastasia Romanov, but a Polish factory worker (The Romanovs 246). On February 25th, 1996, a funeral ceremony was arranged for the last Tzar of Russia and his family in St.Petersburg, and was canceled for the fourth time. The Moscow church states that: "The DNA testing has to be done over again" to verify the identification of the bones ("Bones of Contention" 33). Regardless of scientific data from Russia, England, and the United States all ending with the same conclusion, that the bones are indeed the Romanovs, the Moscow Church is not satisfied. Whether or not the family will be canonized in the ceremony has not been decided but, the Russian Orthodox Church Abroad has already done that for the imperial family in 1981. "In the meantime, the remains of Nicholas and Alexandra and their children continue to lie on metal tables in a morgue in Siberia" ("Bones of Contention" 33). O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O [A short news item.] The Romanovs. In 1993 bones found two years before in a shallow grave in Ekaterinenburg in Russia, were identified as the remains of the last Tsar, Tsarina and three of their five children, the royal physician and three servants. To prove relationship with the Romanov family, the DNA extracted and amplified by polymerase chain reaction, was compared to a blood sample provided by Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, husband of Queen Elisabeth the second of England, and a grand nephew of the tsarina. Soon after, Anna Anderson Manahan, a US immigrant, deceased in 1984, who had claimed all her life to be the youngest daughter of the last Tsar, Anastasia, supposedly escaped from the bolshevik firing squad, was proved NOT to be who she claimed. Moreover, her DNA very closely matched that of an other immigrant from Pomerania (Germany-Poland), a great nephew of the women Franzisca Schanzkowska. Already in the 1920s a private investigator of the Grand Duke of Hesse had identified Anna Anderson with Schanzkowska. O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O [Another news item that came out after the DNA testing of Anna Anderson ws completed.] TESTS PROVE ANASTASIA CLAIM TO BE FALSE LONDON (Reuter) -- The late Anna Anderson, who for decades claimed to be the Grand Duchess Anastasia, could not have been the youngest daughter of Russia's last tsar, according to tests using blood of the husband of Britain's Queen Elizabeth. Instead, Ms Anderson, 83, who died in Charlottesville, Virginia, in 1984, was identified as being of Polish peasant stock. Doctors compared Ms Anderson's DNA with that of Prince Philip, the Duke of Edinburgh, who is related in the intricate web of European royalty to the dead tsarina through his mother. O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O - O Hope all this is useful to somebody. :) Violet xoxox * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * "I'm Glenda, The Good Bitch." * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:05:02 -0600 From: meade Subject: the tori ring poll hello everyone! please take a moment to come by the tori ring homepage and vote on the graphics sets. there are nearly thirty sets of graphics now, and it (finally) crossed my mind that that is getting a little rediculous... don't get me wrong, i really like all of the graphics and they are so much fun to make, but the ring needs a little more consistancy. please stop by and vote, http://stain.simplenet.com/tori/ring/poll.html -- we would really appreciate it!! .meade & tacey tori ring administrators <: ....................................................................... she was a january girl... she never let on how insane it was.. tori amos *black-dove (january)* ....................................................................... tori amos: a girl and her watercolour stain http://stain.simplenet.com/tori/ ....................................................................... http://stain.simplenet.com/ email me@stain.simplenet.com ....................................................................... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:47:08 EDT From: JupiterCMS@aol.com Subject: Newsweek Magazine Article & "Yes Anastasia" I noticed that some people were posting about "Yes Anastasia" lately & as I was looking through the new issue of Newsweek Magazine (July 20,1998 issue w. "Science finds God & a stained glass picture on the cover) I noticed an article titled "Home at Last. " Its about 5 pages long. It talks about the murdered Romanovs & their contravercial burial. It has some pictures & a small 1/2 page family tree. It also includes a page article that talks about Czar Nicolas' weakness that helped to destroy him. The article was pretty kewl & informative, since I dont know much about the Romanovs. I hope some of you will read it maybe & if you do I hope you find it interesting ! peace out~ catherine =) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:45:29 -0400 From: Tripp Gwyn Subject: Lip Gloss Rasberry Swirl is coming..... Yep, the rumors at Mikewhy's site are 100% true. At the moment, Esprit (www.eil.com) has a 2-track Uk Promo for Raspberry Swirl. It says included LIP GLOSS version. I guees this fairly confirms the single switch. Not to mention the fact that Esprit has NEVER had a JS promo. I wonder if the Lip Gloss version will be the version used to promot the single as With the Dakota Mix of Hey Jupiter. Tripp Gwyn tgwyn@infoave.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:31:12 -0500 (CDT) From: Simon Booth Subject: Apologies about trades-pt. 2 ok- I need to re-establish contact with everyone- I've had some computer problems and alot of the saved messages with what people wanted from me and their snail mail addresses got lost. Please email me privately. Thanks! and again I apologize for the inconvenience. Simon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:31:15 -0500 (CDT) From: Simon Booth Subject: video material for copying/trading (albiet a short list) ok- I have the following videos for copy trade for either audio or video material: Saturday Night Live 1/20/96 Caught a Lite Sneeze Hey Jupiter Tonight Show with Jay Leno 2/8/96 Caught a Lite Sneeze Live in Ft. Lauderdale, Sunrise Theatre, April 12, 1996 Spark- Late Show with David Letterman 4/10/98 Spark video premeire- MTV Live- 4/22/98 appearance on MTV Live- 4/24/98 Spark - Tonight Show with Jay Leno 5-11-98 Independence Day Concert, ABC 7/4/98 (actually taped in Glastonbury, UK 6/26/98) I know, not alot, but I'm still new at this :) Which is easier? Trading blanks along with return postage seems easy enough but I'm open to other ways :) Simon Tori Amos segment from E! Weekend 5/23/98 2:13 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:40:58 EDT From: Youre@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: Raspberry Swirl Video >> People who have "The Box" are very lucky, but for the average person with basic cable we're out of luck for now.<< Does any one know if "The Box" is on satellite dish? and what channel it would be?? thanks Ben ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 18:02:10 -0400 From: "Ms. Timid" Subject: Re: just a question Yep, actually, it was "Past The Mission" and he sings parts of very nice song... Chrissy FireSpyrit@aol.com wrote: > I was just wondering this while I sit toiling away at my computer, i've > heard rent reznor sang backup on LE(the song, not the album) does anyone know > if this is true? > jes > > faerie blessings... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:46:26 -0700 (PDT) From: "'Litz" Subject: Re: Misc. - ---Ray Bailey wrote: > > > > I was just wondering this while I sit toiling away at my computer, > >i've heard rent reznor sang backup on LE(the song, not the album) >does > anyone know if this is true? > >jes > > faerie blessings... > Personally, I have no idea, but that poses an interesting question... > why didn't she credit the guest vocals when in "Past The Mission" she > credited Trent there? Hmmm... anyone that can answer, I would be > obliged. I'm not sure why Tori didn't credit Trent on UtP, but I do know that he doesn't do vocals on LE. I thought that the voice in the background during "Give me life, give me pain, give me myself again..." sounded like Trent, too, but it is actually Tori's ex, Eric. > Question: So the Spark video ISN'T released in the US yet or is? > Someone please let me know, I wanna see it! ;) Spark has been released in the US. Jackie's Strength and Raspberry Swirl can only be seen in the UK, so far. 'Litz _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:30:18 -0500 From: roller girl Subject: Tori in Star Tribune today hi, i just got home from work and went to read the paper and there is an article on Tori in it!&*#$ (: i'd scan it if i had my computer back, but its still in a million pieces and my father would kill me if i installed my scanner on HIS computer (its his baby, i'm lucky to check email!) so i will run my fingers off typing it out and there is a really pretty pic i will get up on thursday (if i can). TORI AMOS DETACHED (ONLINE) FROM FANS Why Can't Tori Amos read any of the 4,000 or so Web sites devoted to her on the internet? Because she doesn't have a computer. "If i need to know about it, somebody in the inner circle is into all that [computer] stuff and would let us know," said Amos, the singer-songwriter-pianist who has a religious-like following. Just check out some of the worshipful Web sites listed by Yahoo. Find Tori Amos as: Goddess of Music A Fistful of Tori The Church of Tori Violent and Delicious: Tori Amos Really Deep Thoughts -- the Official Fanzine There are even sites devoted to Y Kant Tori Read, the metal band she had long before she became a possessed, provocative, poetic piano woman who drives guys and gals wild. "It's not your business what people think of you; it's their opinion, and they're allowed that," the North Carolina-bred Amoes said recently from her London home. "Neil Gaiman [ the award-winning Minnesota-based comic author], of all people, said to me one time, 'Once you become public with your work, if you have feelings, you shouldn't have rights because you're getting royalties.' You can't confuse them for friends. Friends are friends. People who have an opinion on your work, it's a free response." Amos, 34, said she once checked out an internet chat about herself and realized that she didn't really need it: "It's like going to a party you're not invited to and they're talking about you." These days, the million-selling, classically trained Amos stays away from computers and newspapers. "I read Scientific American -- anything that isn't about the music side of things -- because you need to continue a normal life while you're being a working musician." Ah, Web-site operatives will duly take note. Amos' sold-out concert Friday at Northrop Auditorium will be her first Twin Cities appearance with a proper band. She finds a whole different vibe now - -- both on- and off-stage. "It took me no time to get used too the social aspect," she said. "When you walk offstange, you're so pumped. When I was alone, nobody really wanted to talk to me because it was like I had 40 espressos. Now there are four of you, and you can sit down afterward and share it together. The shows are emotional for the players." Onstage, she has to think differently because it's about a relationship with the musicians. "even if you're not best friends when you walk offstage, something's got to happen when you pick up your instruments. Otherwise, it's the kind of passive relationship you want in an office setting. Onstage, you need turbulence and emotion. If it's like the bloody Girl Scouts, that's not great; go sell cookies." The songs on her nwe album, "From the Choirgirl Hotel" walk the line between mystical and emotional. She addresses her recent miscarriage. To write about such a deep personal experience, the songwriter went to the same kind of inner place she had ventured earlier in her career, when she wrote about being raped. "I think what happens in the songwriting, I'm much more honest than anywhere else," she said. "Thats how i kind of know what my feelings are about something. Thats with all the songs. Even if i have violent feelings toward somebody, it's going to that place of "You don't have to tell this to anybody else' -- and of course, I realize once it gets on record that other people will hear that But there is a detachment in that. A lot of times, the person I've had the argument with, they might know, and we might kind of work through it, but my real feelings go into the song. Because some things you just can't say to anybody else. It's not like you're confessing, or you want their approval, or you want a conversation on it. You need to get a little fact place yourself -- where you stood on something." (no author and sorry about the misspelling, i am an impatient typer) (: .ally. we nego t iate {i am an ally } with c h a o s {icicle@hempseed.com } for some sense { } of satisfaction {tori amos in clip } {http://come.to/tori-amos} http://members.xoom.com/notsosoft ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:45:06 -0700 From: shannon Subject: Ames, IA tix & music videos request Hiya. I am looking for some kind person who has Tori's music videos, preferable from bfp, utp, and le and would be willing to dub them for me. I don't have much to trade, but I would send an SASE and an extra videotape for your troubles. I would appreciate it so much. Also--I posted this on tori-news, but ticketmaster is selling reserved tickets to Tori's concert in Ames, IA (this Saturday, July 18), and last time I checked, it's still possible to get seats in the 8th row. Just thought I'd let you all know...I got mine upgraded from row 24 left to row 8 center :) Shannon PS If anyone has any info on meet and greets, could you please let me know? Thanks :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:50:49 PDT From: "Shaigirl 18/f" Subject: Re: just a question >I was just wondering this while I sit toiling away at my computer, i've >heard rent reznor sang backup on LE(the song, not the album) does >anyone know if this is true? >jes >faerie blessings... You know... I've always wondered that myself. But I'm honestly thinking he doesn't. I noticed in the credits it says that the background vocals were "Eric, Caton, Tori, and Nancy" I would think if Trent did do any vocals for that song that he'd be credited for it. And speaking of "Eric Rosse", I've heard a lot about him and Tori. Recently I finally heard the whole story about how they were hooked up for awhile and he worked on LE, UTP, and BFP. Which is why Tori condsiders them a trilogy, because they are no longer together and of course, she is now married... but anyways! Does anyone know of any sites that have a picture of Eric? Cause I've heard a lot about him but have never seen him. Kinda makes you wonder... Peace, ~~Shaigirl ================================================== Shaigirl 18/f shaigirl79@hotmail.com My So-Called Life http://glenmar.com/~mmb AOL IM: Shaigirl79 ICQ UIN: 7032035 ================================================== "So don't give me respect don't give me a piece of your preciousness..." -Tori Amos ================================================== ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #253 *************************************