From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #220 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Sunday, June 14 1998 Volume 03 : Number 220 Today's Subjects: ----------------- ugh... money [roller girl ] E online answers ["Jeana H." ] Trent and Tori story [forsythia_in_the_spam@juno.com (Dust A Bunny)] Re: Launch [Charlie Poole ] Re: Launch [Charlie Poole ] FtCGH Promos ["DirtyFishyDish" ] Spark singles [spaceboy ] Re: Results B Sides / Rarieties [spaceboy ] Crucify/Winter b-sides [Beth Winegarner ] Portland show [Darren Linder ] tape Den Haag concert ["L. Scholten" ] quotes ["Daisy Dead Petals" ] Tori Amos Encyclopedia [Marcel Rijs ] Tori Amos...On Letterman Again? Date? ["Dan Lucy" ] Re: my *SPARK* single ["Sonya Harway" ] boot index [roller girl ] Re: Launch [Lil3rthqks@aol.com] Re: i don't know.... [ToriPyro@aol.com] plugged tour [JENNA96607@aol.com] Tori On CNN ["Giovanni" ] Re: i don't know.... [PANG223@aol.com] Tori/Lillith messup [HapyFantm@aol.com] spark track listings ["glytter grrl" ] Re: i don't know.... ["Luna 17" ] Re: i don't know.... ["Luna 17" ] Re: i don't know.... ["Balderrama" ] Re: Spark singles [HyJptrCrsh@aol.com] KROQ [HyJptrCrsh@aol.com] Re: Tori/Lillith messup [A Faerie ] Re: plugged tour [A Faerie ] Re: i don't know.... [roller girl ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 00:31:37 -0500 From: roller girl Subject: ugh... money hm, so i am wondering why i can't just be a tori roading or stage hand or whatever they call it. i just added up how much money i have put into tickets so far: - - milwaukee show - - minneapolis show - - ames show (can't go to chicago) - - kansas city show i think i'm going to vomit... why are they so expensive? ;) "you know who i liked but who never got any play? velma from scooby doo..." -can't hardly wait .... http://www.geocities.com/soho/square/1253 ...... know any local musicians in your area? email me. "you're a mad roller, roller girl!" - the senior editor commented on my lay out skills. ;) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 12 Jun 1998 23:28:46 -0700 From: "Jeana H." Subject: E online answers does anyone know when Tori's answers will be posted on E online? Remember, when we could ask her questions? When are (were) the answers posted? - --- is your place in heaven worth giving up these kisses ***Tori*** ***Cooling*** Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 02:16:25 -0500 From: forsythia_in_the_spam@juno.com (Dust A Bunny) Subject: Trent and Tori story Hello Inquiring Minds, Here is the exact quote where Trent talks about him and Tori. It was from the February 1996 issue of Spin I think. I'm not positive, but anyhoo: Like you did with Tori Amos. Tori would be another example. She called me to do this vocal track. It wasn't that big a deal. Her first album was permanently in my car's CD changer. It really struck me as well written, in a similar vein to what I was doing-from a different point of view, but the same kind of addicting, pouring out, gushing, baring, naked kind of song. Other people put their fingers in the pie, and they kind of messed up a friendship. We're not that close now. Some malicious meddling on the part of Courtney Love. But I still feel the same feelings for Tori. So there you go. Take care. Bi bi. Me, the Flea "I'm a winter girl; I like coming out when things are desolate and everybody's ready to slit their wrists." - -Tori Amos _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 02:33:17 -0500 (EST) From: Charlie Poole Subject: Re: Launch On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Fireheart wrote: > I'd love to get the free issue of Launch but the URL www.launch.com does > not seem correct...I automatically get sent to the "Catapult" company, or > something like that. Well...it just doesn't look right ): http:www.mylaunch.com In Tori, Charlie - -- Tori Amos tour info at: http://php.indiana.edu/~cpoole/toritour.html +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | C.W. Poole | "Charlie" | cpoole@indiana.edu | +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | To me happiness, true happiness is when you can really dance | | with sad. --Tori Amos | | I have spent a lifetime learning how to cry. --Janis Ian | *----------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 02:34:28 -0500 (EST) From: Charlie Poole Subject: Re: Launch Ooops, I forgot those pesky little slashes: http://www.mylaunch.com - -- Tori Amos tour info at: http://php.indiana.edu/~cpoole/toritour.html +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | C.W. Poole | "Charlie" | cpoole@indiana.edu | +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | To me happiness, true happiness is when you can really dance | | with sad. --Tori Amos | | I have spent a lifetime learning how to cry. --Janis Ian | *----------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:45:31 +1000 From: "DirtyFishyDish" Subject: FtCGH Promos Hi Everyone! How's life going? Anyway, I am just checking that the following is ALL the promos and vinyl released for FtCGH! By The Way, Is SPARK the 1st time since YKTR that Atlantic has released a 7" single?!?!?! Has anyone else noticed that, or am I wrong?! OK: Album: US 4-trk Promo Sampler PRCD-8520 US Advanced Promo CD (All Tracks) German Advanced Promo Pic CD (All Tracks) PRCD-1050 UK Single 12" LP US Double 12" LP US Double Promo Test Pressing 12" LP Spark: US 3-trk Promo (3 edits, all same) PRCD-8517 (some have front pic sleeves, some don't, does anyone know why?) US 2-trk Promo Pic CD (2 slightly diff. edits) PRCD-1500 ?? German Promo - What are these details???? US Promo 12" Single US Test Pressing Promo 12" Single US 7" vinyl single, no pic sleeve, just purple label. Is this right, is that everything? I would REALLY appreciate any input in this matter. Thanks. DirtyFishyDish s368370@student.uq.edu.au toriinoz@hotmail.com ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* VISIT ' A TORI AMOS HEAVEN' http://www.bigfoot.com/~toriinoz/ ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* Links To My Other Sites http://members.tripod.com/~toriinoz/ ^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^*^* 'Don't Judge Me So Harsh Little Girl' 'I Believe In Peace, Bitch' 'If The Divine Master Plan Is Perfection' 'Why Do We Crucify Ourselves?' - TORI AMOS ************************************* ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 13:25:34 +0300 From: spaceboy Subject: Spark singles Hi everybody, I think some of you asked the tracks on the UK Spark singles. Spark CD1 1)Spark Macthisty's Lounge B Sides Last stop on the Kufürstendham 2)Purple People (Christmas In Space) 3)Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas 4)Bachelorette Spark CD2 (limited edition) 1)Spark 2)Do It Again 3)Cooling there you go :) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 13:18:28 +0300 From: spaceboy Subject: Re: Results B Sides / Rarieties Hee hee, ok, some corrections and additions on the way :) This is not flaming again, just good will :) > >Angie -"winter" ep, bside > that's *crucify* ep the US Crucify EP and the French Crucify CD has this track. > >Ode To The Banana King, Part 1 -"y kant tori read" > >bonus track, also a bside of ? > again, I wouldn't mention yktr. A b-side of the limited edition "Silent All > these years" (original version) single. actually Ode To Banana King is the B-side of the SATY re-release. First SATY was released in November 1991 and this one is from the August 1992 release. Can be found on the limited edition one. > >Sarah Sylvia Cynthia Stout -"sarah sylvia cynthia stout" cassette > single > I'm really not sure about a single of this song. I think this was on > another X-Mas record. No single in any format for this one. It can be found on "Speaking Of Christmas and Other Things" cassette. > >Smells Like Teen Spirit -"winter EP", cover of Nirvana > again... it's the Crucify EP, the US one again :) and also the German SATY 7" and French Crucify CD has the track. > >Song For Eric -"chiina" import single, also bonus track on YKTR > no, it's the b-side to the above mentioned UK ltd ed. SATY single. > >Thank You -"winter EP" > Crucify EP, the US one again ;) > >Thoughts -"silent all these years" import bside > no, it's the b-side to the UK/German MAAG single. Well, the first UK release of Silent All These Years was a reissue of the MAAG single so the tracks were completely same so as the sleeve. It was just the title track name change. That was in November 1991. Well, that's it. take care everyone ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:05:27 -0700 From: Beth Winegarner Subject: Crucify/Winter b-sides > >Angie -"winter" ep, bside > that's *crucify* ep > >Smells Like Teen Spirit -"winter EP", cover of Nirvana > again... it's the Crucify EP > >Thank You -"winter EP" > Crucify EP All of these were the b-sides on the UK Winter single. In the states, they're easier to come by on the Crucify single, but that doesn't mean the person who wrote this was wrong. Beth - -- "Is food your favorite obsession?" I ask. Amos' eyes gleam wickedly. "No," she says, grinning. "It's just a smokescreen for my favorite obsession." "Which would be?" She takes a perfect pause. "Comparitive religion." - -- David Daley on Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:42:16 -0800 From: Darren Linder Subject: Portland show Hey guys- I just got my Tori Tickets to the 9/12 show in Portland, Oregon! Here's a weird thing: the floor of the Rose Garden will be standing room only, while the rest are reserved seats. The teller jokingly referred to the general admission area as "the pit." I've seen Sarah McLachlan there twice before, and even though it was general admission, they still had chairs to sit on. I guess they are expecting a lot more people to dance or mosh at Tori. :) Darren Linder sleepy1@spiritone.com Portland, Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:35:44 +0200 From: "L. Scholten" Subject: tape Den Haag concert So I finally got in.... I could finally attend a Tori-concert.... I went to Den Haag, seeing a wonderful concert... even taping it! But, and this is true: I lost the tape when I went back home... *nooooooooooooooooooo!!!!!!* *snif* So, if anyone got the concert in the Congresgebouw on tape and wants to share it: please e-mail me privately! (the same goes for anyone who has found my tape at station Haarlem...) I'm willing to pay! thanx, Lennaert ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 13:15:36 -0500 From: "Daisy Dead Petals" Subject: quotes hey thanks a lot for all the info on the sheet music for my wedding, all! just needed to know how to subscribe to the Tori quote list--Ive got a new address and I need to need to resubscribe.THANKS! Daisy melanie ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:44:11 +0200 From: Marcel Rijs Subject: Tori Amos Encyclopedia Hi all, Without trying to be too enthusiastic about it, I am today announcing the first publishing of the Tori Amos Encyclopedia on the Web. The new site will hopefully turn into one of the best resources for quick-reference information on Tori Amos. Right now, it is not very much more than a skeleton. I have included all songs I know Tori has performed on record and live (including links to lyrics, MP3 files and MIDI's) and a few miscellaneous articles. The reason for putting it up right now is to involve all of you at an early stage. As I will keep repeating in future months: I cannot make the encyclopedia on my own. I will always need your (constructive) criticism, information and other helpfullness. If you have a website, the Encyclopedia will be a great way of publicizing it to beginning websurfers and people looking for specific ToriInformation. Like I said, the Encyclopedia is in no way functional at this point and I would appreciate it if you would not link to it yet. At this point in time, I just want _your_ input, nothing else. So enjoy the sneak preview! You can find the Tori Amos Encyclopedia at http://toriamos.mypage.org Kind regards, Marcel Rijs - "Conan the Librarian" mfgr@plex.nl Visit my Websites: http://www.plex.nl/~mfgr ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 12:26:00 PDT From: "Dan Lucy" Subject: Tori Amos...On Letterman Again? Date? So, I heard she was gonna be on Letterman again. That's Great! Hopefully he will talk to her this time :) Anyway, I don't know when the date is, can someone tell me when this is gonna happen? Thanx! :) Dan PS. I was really interested in that message about the elemental similarities between her albums. I never thought of it that way, but when you look at it, it makes total sense. I wonder if that was intentional on her part. The lyric from the song cooling makes it seem that way, or maybe it's just a strange coincidence :) Still, Very cool :) Bye ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 13:54:54 PDT From: "Sonya Harway" Subject: Re: my *SPARK* single I don't know about anyone else, but I think if you get the UK release, there's no point in buying the US releases unless you are an absolute completist. I agree that they're great, but I'm kind of disappointed that the US releases are so repetitive. And I am sure that she doesn't read the lists or go to the sites on-line, b/c she said somewhere that she thinks that would be invading the EWF's privacy. Sonya ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 16:39:19 -0500 From: roller girl Subject: boot index hi everyone, iw as just wondering if anyone has ever made an archive page with links to who has bootlegs to trade (sort of like the ani difranco tape trader's central)... if there has been, please let me know. (: .... http://www.geocities.com/soho/square/1253 ...... "you know who i liked but who never got any play? velma from scooby doo..." -can't hardly wait ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!read this!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ know any local musicians in your area who want to be plugged? email me. a few people, like myself, are trying to get our shit together and start a webzine called the music underground, which will be designated to inform the public about musicians that rock, but are *not* raped by big business. so, help us out. ;) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 17:55:13 EDT From: Lil3rthqks@aol.com Subject: Re: Launch Thanks, but I went there and I still can't find the "free issue" thing. Is the offer over? Please help a Tori fan in distress! In a message dated 98-06-13 13:57:49 EDT, cpoole@indiana.edu writes: << Ooops, I forgot those pesky little slashes: http://www.mylaunch.com >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:50:04 EDT From: ToriPyro@aol.com Subject: Re: i don't know.... I interpret tori's lyric of "you say you don't want it, the circus we're in" as you being the child, we're as tori, mark, and everyone else of the human race. she has stated in many interviews that she feels the child chose someone else over her...that she left her. in this case, i think "again and again" is showing how tori somewhat realizes that the loss of her baby is permanent, but she own't fully admitt it. In a message dated 6/11/98 11:59:51 PM Eastern Daylight Time, luna17@hotmail.com writes: << Spark, as far as I know, is primarily about the miscarriage. My interpretation of the rest would be maybe she's speaking in part to her husband, 'you say you don't want it', and maybe 'it' is the baby and he's trying to console her about this loss and she doesn't believe him, but then I'm not sure about the circus bit...and of course, I might just be completely wrong about everything... >> ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 19:23:49 EDT From: JENNA96607@aol.com Subject: plugged tour since this is a plugged tour...does that mean that even her songs, like crucify, silent all these years, happy phantom, the wrong band...etc. ... are they going to be with a band? or do you know if they are still going to be the same sweet songs. just wondering, because I'm going to see her in Springfield, MA. and the Fleet center in Boston. should be a good time. Jenna ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 18:23:15 -0500 From: "Giovanni" Subject: Tori On CNN Hey everyone, I was just watching this show on CNN called "World Beat" or something like that, a music show, and well, near the end the host said "before we go, let's have a glimpse of the next World Beat"... and then they showed a second of the "Spark" video and it said "Tori Amos tour in Europe". It only lasted a second because the CNN promo thing came on and didn't let the show end properly. But anyhow, the interesting part is that Tori will be featured on this show next week! I am in a different time zone so I wouldn't know the exact time to catch it (it was on from 5:30pm to 6pm here in Colombia) in the US or elsewhere in the world, so make sure you check your local listings! Giovanni ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:39:34 EDT From: PANG223@aol.com Subject: Re: i don't know.... Personally i think the chorus in Spark is Tori talking to herself, or saying what's going through her head. I myself believe it's: 1. "you say you don't want it , again and again. But you DON"T, don't really mean it. You say you don't want it, the circus we're in, but you don't really mean it" She's trying to convince herself that this is for the best, her life is like a circus, and this will be okay, but that's not how she really feels and she cant' make how much she really does want it to go away. After all, she sings this chorus AFTER she's tried to WILL the miscarriage not to happen (hold back a glacier). So now, she's in all this pain and trying to make sense of it, and wanting to feel better, so she's saying, I didn't really want it, my life is too crazy, and etc. she's trying to make it ok and not hurt or be angry. the rest of the song is kind of the anger that comes out, at GOD, and at herself for saying she didnt want it(when EVERYONE knew how much she wanted it). Then, her own words haunt the rest of the song. Just my personal thoughts, Corinne ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:43:23 EDT From: HapyFantm@aol.com Subject: Tori/Lillith messup I just received this in some mass email from somebody I didn't even know b/c I had Tori in my AOL profile... >Do you know what the Lilith Fair is? Its this huge concert with all these famous, big >women singers like Tori Amos, Sarah McLachlan, and tons of others. They all have >their own unique style and are great singers. Well, the great singers part is right, but that's about all. Tori's given good reason why she doesn't participate in Lilith, but people still assume she's in it. hmmm... Hey- all you Newbury Comics prize winners. I still haven't gotten my prize yet. Did all of you?? shawn.the.little.masochsist ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:32:34 EDT From: "glytter grrl" Subject: spark track listings I mentioned this once before and no one had really noticed, butr if you look at the CD jacket and such, it's Have Youself A Merry Little Christmas intstead of: 3)Have Yourself A Merry Little Christmas Does anyone know about this? or is it just a little oops in the printing? ~~becka ~~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~ I'm so tired, let me go to Austin.------Jill Jack And I have to get to Texas---Tori Amos ~~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~ http://www.geocities.com/SouthBeach/3011 ~~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~ http://members.ismi.net/monger ~~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~*:*~~ ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:39:30 PDT From: "Luna 17" Subject: Re: i don't know.... >Personally i think the chorus in Spark is Tori talking to herself, or saying >what's going through her head. cool cool...okay, this is one of my most favorite things about people--how they have all these different interpretations of music and poetry *grin* usually much more interesting than mine, but I won't hold it against you.... ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 20:36:04 PDT From: "Luna 17" Subject: Re: i don't know.... >I interpret tori's lyric of "you say you don't want it, the circus we're in" >as you being the child, we're as tori, mark, and everyone else of the human race. she has stated in many interviews that she feels the child chose someone else over her...that she left her. in this case, i think "again and again" is showing how tori somewhat realizes that the loss of her baby is permanent, but she won't fully admit it. hmm...I like that interpretation, as in the world as a circus...it reminds of the character Septimus in Virginia Woolf's Mrs. Dalloway (the book, not the movie) ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 22:27:51 -0500 From: "Balderrama" Subject: Re: i don't know.... I have a different take on the song. (though I have to admit that Connie's sounded better). I thought that perhaps she was saying all these years she's said she doesn't want a baby (you say you don't want it again and again) and the circus they're in is her hectic life. But she doesn't really mean it. And when she is pregnant she loses the baby she realizes how much she really wanted it. Then when she talks of holding back a glacier, I thought she had been so sure of herself and cocky in the business world (?) or just in personal life that she felt she could handle anything and do anything, such as the impossible task of holding back a glacier. But when it came down to it, she couldn't even keep the baby alive. I felt the song was was more about a looking back on everything that went wrong. And everything she says is just venting frustration about how she thought she was the "bomb" and she wasn't really above average. She's kinda putting herself down. This is just my 2 cents. I'm really interested on hearing other people's takes. thanx for reading, anthony :) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 00:11:20 EDT From: HyJptrCrsh@aol.com Subject: Re: Spark singles what about the US single? does one exist? if so, what is the track listing ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 14 Jun 1998 00:15:27 EDT From: HyJptrCrsh@aol.com Subject: KROQ i always thought Tori had the miscarriage before the KROQ almost acustic (sp?) christmas, but i saw it the other day, and she was very smiley and happy, and said she was taking some time off.. so was it after that? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:12:42 -0500 From: A Faerie Subject: Re: Tori/Lillith messup > Hey- all you Newbury Comics prize winners. I still haven't gotten my prize > yet. Did all of you?? > > shawn.the.little.masochsist i got mine and the packaging was shit! the poster came basically with creases and huge dent marks. i have it sitting under a pile of books on a hard floor to get it 1/2 decent even thought it is still going to look like shit. Luckily this is a poster that i already have, so im not too upset about it, so beware when you do recieve it! Danica - -- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/torimp3.html - - Tori Amos: A Realm of Mp3's Website ....I guess I'm an underwater thing, I'm liquid running http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/glittermain.html All That Glitters....Is Sour (my homepage) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:10:31 -0500 From: A Faerie Subject: Re: plugged tour JENNA96607@aol.com wrote: > > since this is a plugged tour...does that mean that even her songs, like > crucify, silent all these years, happy phantom, the wrong band...etc. ... > are they going to be with a band? or do you know if they are still going to > be the same sweet songs. just wondering, because I'm going to see her in > Springfield, MA. and the Fleet center in Boston. should be a good time. > > Jenna I think it depends on what will work with the band. in london she did honey and pretty good year with the band anbd i hadn't heard those yet, and they were incredible with the band. then she did winter and china, and other songs like that and landslide alone, but most are with the band. i think it just totally depends on what songs she things will work with the band and which ones wont. but i don't thank tori would be doing silent, or happy phantom and some of those with the band. but then again that is just a *thought* from me. Danica - -- http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/torimp3.html - - Tori Amos: A Realm of Mp3's Website ....I guess I'm an underwater thing, I'm liquid running http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Towers/5612/glittermain.html All That Glitters....Is Sour (my homepage) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 13 Jun 1998 23:12:15 -0500 From: roller girl Subject: Re: i don't know.... i really like this interpetation also. and i have also come to that conclusion, however... the first time i heard this song i thought "she's talking about the music business and how she is getting sick of it." and it seems like that is just one of the multi-faced reflections in this kalideoscope of tori. (: its like, with ALL of her albums (present release excluded) has drawn in fans, but remember what she said in boulder? about how she worked her ass off and how big business men always told her she "made a piece of shit" ?? i think she is sort of sick of trying to impress the people she tries so hard to impress and they are never satisfied enough to say, "good job, tori" of course i see alot of faults in this interpetation, but it may have some under meaning. well, she seems to be telling her self ""you say you don't want it, the circus we're in" and its like she's saying "you dont want this" but her songs just *come* to her, and she believes in them.. she likes the circus of preforming and reaching out to people. i also think that this ties in with the lost baby because she would have to put her career on hold if she did have this child. etc. anyways. ;) At 10:27 PM 6/13/98 -0500, you wrote: > > > >I have a different take on the song. (though I have to admit that Connie's >sounded better). I thought that perhaps she was saying all these years >she's said she doesn't want a baby (you say you don't want it again and >again) and the circus they're in is her hectic life. But she doesn't >really mean it. And when she is pregnant she loses the baby she realizes >how much she really wanted it. Then when she talks of holding back a >glacier, I thought she had been so sure of herself and cocky in the business >world (?) or just in personal life that she felt she could handle anything >and do anything, such as the impossible task of holding back a glacier. But >when it came down to it, she couldn't even keep the baby alive. I felt the >song was was more about a looking back on everything that went wrong. And >everything she says is just venting frustration about how she thought she >was the "bomb" and she wasn't really above average. She's kinda putting >herself down. > >This is just my 2 cents. >I'm really interested on hearing other people's takes. > >thanx for reading, >anthony :) > .... http://www.geocities.com/soho/square/1253 ...... "you know who i liked but who never got any play? velma from scooby doo..." -can't hardly wait ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~!read this!~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ know any local musicians in your area who want to be plugged? email me. a few people, like myself, are trying to get our shit together and start a webzine called the music underground, which will be designated to inform the public about musicians that rock, but are *not* raped by big business. so, help us out. ;) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #220 *************************************