From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #205 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, June 2 1998 Volume 03 : Number 205 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Cover Artwork [Chloe Sparkle ] Re: bells for her [Life4ce2@aol.com] Tori Tix in oakland [LaMorenaCA@aol.com] Pinkpop? [allthegirlshateher@juno.com (Warren C. Jaycox)] Re: ~~Boys for Pele~~ ["Pete Bottiglieri" ] I Think in Color... [shirleeh@juno.com (Miss Taci)] Re: 1-word descriptions of Tori's albums [Jack Lobingier ] Audio files from Pinkpop available now! [Dennis Snelders ] Re: Cover Artwork [Life4ce2@aol.com] Re: ~~about my BfP review~~ [Darren Linder ] she's back: merman ["Nephilim" ] lovesong to bfp [MM62@aol.com] Re: re: re: my personal album reviews ["Thomas Mazorlig" ] Cooling lyrics [Yasmin Lori Ravard ] Re: precious-things-digest V3 #204 ["Nicole Renee Parker" ] Tori Dream (kinda) [Beth Coulter ] Interest in an Australasian ToriCon? [Danielle Ringrose ] Re:~~about my BfP review~~ [Finney2567@aol.com] Re: Cover Artwork ["Nicole" ] Re: Cooling lyrics [boy wonder ] bells for her [KAngela97@aol.com] Re: Cooling lyrics [AstroKitty@aol.com] Re: Cover Artwork [Beth Coulter ] Re: Northern Lad [~*jenn*~ ] Re: Cooling lyrics [~*jenn*~ ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 00:15:50 -0700 From: Chloe Sparkle Subject: Re: Cover Artwork > > > FtCGH-I think as someone else said that it very much reflects Playboy > Mommy and it's about a whole different her because of her miscarriage > *and* marriage and as her just pening up a whole new world to herself. Does any one else think the FTCGH artwork looks like she's underwater? Kind of goes along with the "you say I'm an underwater thing" and Pandora's Aquarium. > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 01:02:30 EDT From: Life4ce2@aol.com Subject: Re: bells for her hmm..i've never heard that...tori talked about the meaning of the song in one of the bootleg videos i have and she says it's about losing a best friend...she talked about how one of her closest girlfriends was treated like absolute shit by her boyfriend but that she drifted apart from tori, her girlfriend, instead of him...."like sisters blankette, blankette girls always there through, through that and this" meaning that they were so extremely close in good times and bad....."you don't need my voice girl you have your own" meaning her friend doesn't need her strength to handle this abusive relationship she's in..that she has her own voice shannon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 12:08:19 EDT From: LaMorenaCA@aol.com Subject: Tori Tix in oakland hey everyone, i know that we were all confused as to when tix go on sale for tori's oakland show. i was listening to LIVE 105 this morning and they played a commercial for the show. tix will go on sale at 3pm on friday the 5th. i hope to see some of you at the venue on that day. take care, dorena ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 1 Jun 1998 20:26:46 -0600 From: allthegirlshateher@juno.com (Warren C. Jaycox) Subject: Pinkpop? What the hell is PinkPop? Warren "I'm ok, if you get me a good angle. You're ok, in the right sorta light." -Ani _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 08:42:42 -0700 From: "Pete Bottiglieri" Subject: Re: ~~Boys for Pele~~ Don't feel bad, I am in total agreement with you> I mean I enjoy listening to BfP. But is definately not my favorite. I would take LE anyday. But BfP, is a very good album to listen to. I just have to be in the right mood if you kow what I am saying for that particular album Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 00:47:56 PDT From: shirleeh@juno.com (Miss Taci) Subject: I Think in Color... Greetings.... In my head...I classify by color.... "Little Earthquakes"------------>Black "Under the Pink"---------------->Dishwater Blond "Boys for Pele"------------------>Forest Green "From the Choirgirl Hotel----->Red ~~taci~... "The Introverted Candlewoman"... http://www.nettaxi.com/citizens/taci +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ "I lost my head, it wasn't in its basket" -Lisa Germano +-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ _____________________________________________________________________ You don't need to buy Internet access to use free Internet e-mail. Get completely free e-mail from Juno at http://www.juno.com Or call Juno at (800) 654-JUNO [654-5866] ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 10:30:58 -0500 From: Jack Lobingier Subject: Re: 1-word descriptions of Tori's albums > 'Little Earthquakes' - Release > > 'Under the Pink' -Freedom > > 'Boys for Pele' - Anger > > 'From the Choirgirl Hotel' - Evolution > Lisabeth ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:05:20 EDT From: HRHGypsy@aol.com Subject: Re: ~~about my BfP review~~ I just think that BFP is "Tori For Grown-Ups." It's a little more musically and lyrically complex than the previous two. And I think the photos on the sleeve are haunting and compelling. Tori with the burning piano is a little more than white trash, and the faces of the boys in the window is more than a little disconserting. BFP is not my favourite Tori album either, but it'll grow on you. She's saying a lot on that album, and I guarantee you there is a song on there that will rope you in and refuse to let you go. Have fun listening! Hugs, etc., The Gypsy Queen ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 19:32:04 -0700 From: "Mike Gray" Subject: Tour book. Hi Guys.. I hear that the tour book has finally been launched? Well, I attended 4 shows so far on the Plugged '98 tour, and none of them had one. Can someone forward me the phone number that was given out to those of us at the early shows in order to obtain a tour book? Much appreciated. (I wrote it down but lost it! D'oh!) Cheers Mike Mike Gray - mike.gray@zetnet.co.uk http://www.users.zetnet.co.uk/mikegray/ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 11:45:42 +0200 From: Dennis Snelders Subject: Audio files from Pinkpop available now! Hi! I have just added to my Tori Amos page the following audio files: - - Raspberry Swirl (Live at 98, kicks ass) - - Horses (live at Pinkpop 98) - - The Waitress (Live at Pinkpop 98) - - Short radio interview with Tori after the performance. This is not all! I will soon add more files from Pinkpop. To hear these files, go to: http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/lot/1017/littleamsterdam.html (and then to the audio page) thank you! - -- Dennis Snelders e-mail: dsnelders@geocities.com Dutch Tori Amos page 'Little Amsterdam': http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/lot/1017/littleamsterdam.html ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:02:18 EDT From: SIMBeing@aol.com Subject: re: No Trent on FTCH Hi everyone, This is the first time I have posted. After pondering this matter for several days I think I may have come to a conclusion (on that satisfies me at least). I think that the overall tone of the album is her reference to Trent. The album has the same feel as many of the NIN albums. No matter how many times you listen to this album you'll always hear soething different... there are so any layers to the music, as in most of Trent's music. So in my opinion and based on my limited knowledge this is the conclusion I have reached, that just Tori's music this tie around, is in reference to Trent. Just an opinion. E-mail comments. thanx p.s. excuse the granmer and spelling errors... dumb computer simebing@aol.com patrick ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 16:09:31 -0400 (EDT) From: Toniann Scime Subject: Re: Boys For Pele I feel I must admit that Boys for Pele is also my least favorite Tori album. Please note the exact phrasing there. All Tori albums, by definition, are amazing and wonderful. But, human nature being what it is, I like everyone else feel the need to rank my preferences. 1. Little Earthquakes 2. Under the Pink 3. From the Choirgirls Hotel 4. Boys for Pele Does that mean I don't like BfP? Heck, no. It just means that it's not my favorite. I've had it since the day it was available and I've just never connected to it, and certainly not for lack of trying. I still think it is wondrous and beautiful, since it's Tori, of course, it's just occupying the number four position for me. Toniann ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 01:18:13 EDT From: Life4ce2@aol.com Subject: Re: Cover Artwork <> that's interesting...my thought on the UTP cover artwork is this...we all know the album is about violence and betrayal between women...well pink of course is always associated w/ girls (oh how lovely)...but what goes on between girls is unbelievable....when u get UNDER THE PINK it's not as cheerful and sweet girly like we all imagined...it's gloomy...it's really sad...it's gray..hence, the color of the backround on the cover...also, the broken glass that tori stands in just goes to show the blades of pain women often twist into each other shannon "and through the lifeforce and there goes her friend" ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 00:53:42 -0800 From: Darren Linder Subject: Re: ~~about my BfP review~~ > I think that my > opinion and first impression would be a lot better if the album jacket's > photos weren't so trashy and ugly!! Hmmmm. I wouldn't call them trashy or ugly. I think the cover photo of Tori with the rifle expresses supreme confidence and incredible sexuality. Her eyes are simply oozing. I like the photo with the pig suckling at Tori's breast, with many interpretations of what statement she is making. I don't care for the picture of her on her hands and knees on the mattress, though. Tori standing in front of the burning piano is great, as the words burning and fiery are often descriptive of Tori. I find the one of Tori in the carriage incredibly sexy and artsy with all the butterflies. And who couldn't love the last picture of Tori looking playfully above the camera? She's so cute in that one! :) Darren Linder sleepy1@spiritone.com Portland, Oregon ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 07:06:41 -0400 From: "Nephilim" Subject: she's back: merman okay i hope i do not get in trouble for this, but do to the exteme demand i have had requesting merman, since she swam away, I managed to get her back for a little while, im not putting a date here, she will just go when she wants to, but i do believe she won't stay for too long. you see she is kinda of a wild one and well, there are only so much margartias i can give her. so if you missed her before, and she never made her way into your computer, get her now. Please note that once she is gone, I will not keep contacting her for people who missed her, like i was before. Download Merman NoW!!! Available at The Tori Corner http://www.concentric.net/~nephilim/tori.html ) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:43:18 EDT From: MM62@aol.com Subject: lovesong to bfp In a message dated 6/1/98 9:23:24 PM, you wrote: <> i agree, i never listened to it until one of the DDI tours. but the album is, instramentally, her most complex in my opinion. also i was fascinated that bfp was the first one that tori produced on her own and that is the direction she took it in. actually FTCGH has given me a new appreciation for BfP, i like listening to them back to back, they make a lot of sense that way because they are both after all described as being about loss. although it didn't get much attention (except for the pig foto and the usual grammy nomination), i think BfP is definitely a ground breaking album for tori b/c musically it laid the ground work for FTCGH (you can hear it in CALS and the remixes of hey jupiter, talula, and putting the damage on). and you can't beat the lirics either; hey jupiter has got to be the most touching break up song i have ever heard.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 13:34:01 PDT From: "Thomas Mazorlig" Subject: Re: re: re: my personal album reviews Hi, y'all This is the first time I've written and it seemed like a good place to put my two cents in. But first, I should say a little bit about me. I'm Tom, I'm 27, I live in New Jersey and edit reptile and amphibian care books for a living, such as it is. Obviously I love Tori Amos; I"m also a big fan of Indigo Girls, Stevie Nicks, Bob Dylan, and Pink Floyd among others. Anything else you want to know, feel free to ask. I really dig BfP. I like almost as much as I like Little Earthquakes, which is my favorite of Tori's discs. It was surprising, confusing, and different when it first came out, but I think it reaches me on a very subconcious level. It's very beautiful in a strange way. Some of the lines perfectly reflect feelings I've had ("I'm happy for you but I'm sure that I hate you." "I've shaved every place that you've been." etc). And Beth, you're interpretation of the disturbing artwork make a lot of sense to me. I'd never really thought about it, actually. Well, that's enough for now. Hope I didn't bore you or sound like too much of an idiot. Tom "If you need me, me and Neil'll be hanging out with the Dream King" "I said darkness into darkness, all the carnage of my journeys makes it harder to be livin'. He said it's a long road to be forgiven." Amy Ray, "Chickenman" ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 22:49:28 -0700 From: "Jeanette H." Subject: Jackie's Strength and senseless violence (Re: Hearing new things every listen.) Yes, yes, yes. I agree. I live less than three hours away from where all that happened. I had never thought of Jackie's Strength that way, but listening to it (ever since that happened) triggered something in me, but I couldn't put my finger on what it was. Just thinking back, to the day it happened, the song fits. On the local news, it was showing people down on the ground, praying on their knees and just embracing one another and trying to see what sense there was in all this violence. Arkansas has never really been a violent state, but now eleven year old kids hide in the woods and kill girls that break up with them and people just walking out, trying to get to 'safety'. It also reminds me of an experience, much lesser known, that happened eight miles from my house. My ex-boyfriend's best friend shot and killed a fifteen-year-old boy because the boy was defending a girl that Jason had been arguing with or something. No one knows the actual story. But I heard that Jason hit his knees, praying for strength to get through living the rest of his life as a murderer. Seeing Roger's (the boy who was killed) friends at school the next Monday (he was from another school, but he was friends with everybody from my school) really depressed me, and Jackie's Strength really makes me think of all these things, the Jonesboro thing, especially. So yes, Hanna, I see this too. Love in Tori, Jeanette Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 01:36:25 -0300 From: "nickname" Subject: RE: ~~ My personal album reviews! ~~ >> >> MY BOYS FOR PELE ALBUM REVIEW >> ----------------------------------------------------------- >> I give Boys for Pele a 5. >> I can sum up how I like BfP in two words: I don't. Boys for Pele is >> Tori's worst album, I think. It's just so boring! Tori could have done >> better! > >THe first few times i listened to BfP i didnt like it either--it did nothing >for me, so i put it away and went back to the other albums. But now it is my >favorite album...give it some time, if you really let the songs speak they >will, there's a lot of emotion in this album and sometimes the right mood >opens up a whole new perspective on these songs. > >> > >> Somebody once said that on each album, Tori is like a different person, >> conveying different feelings. I must say that the person Tori is on BfP >> is a not very good one, and the feelings she portrays on this album >> aren't very strong. They're so weak. > >i'd definitely have to disagree on that one. i think of all the albums, tori >is her strongest and the feelings she portrays are truly screaming....in my >opinion, FTCGH is her weakest album...but like i said about BfP, it deserves >some more time, and more listens*-jenn-* Well Jen, I agree with you. I don´t know why everybody dislikes BfP some much. It´s such a wonderfull album. The only thing I'm not so sure i like is that is too long, too many songs. I know, you migth think I'm crazy for saying this... "Too many songs?!" More songs of Tori to enjoy! you must say. Yes, thats great, but it's nocive to the album concept. I believe BfP instead of one great album should have been two FANTASTIC albums. Anyway, I love it. Nickname P.S: I do think too that FCGH is her weakest album until now. Although i like it very, very much. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 11:22:06 -0700 From: Yasmin Lori Ravard Subject: Cooling lyrics Here is what I have deciphered from the single version of Cooling...It is different from the DENT's lyrics: Maybe I didn't like hear But I still can't believe SpeedRacer is dead So then I thought I'd make some plans But Fire thought she'd really rather be Water instead. And Piggy got a message for me, from Jesus And I've heard every word, that you have said And I know I have been DRIVEN like the snow But this is COOLING Faster then I can This is COOLING Faster then I... But do I hate what she is... Do I want to be her And don't we love something fresh Anything new, virgin Woman,got too many brambles [I am not sure about "brambles"] Hiding under these bushes Woman,you got too many brambles But I always liked a good storm Always good for a storm.... ah... So then I've walked up to like [It sounds like "like" but, life makes more sense] Said I know that she don't like me much Let's go for a ride This ocean is wrapped around that pinapple tree And is your place in heaven worth giving up these kisses these kisses... these kisses... And Piggy got a message for me, from Jesus And I've heard every word That you have said And I know I've been DRIVEN like the SNOW... But this is COOLING Faster than I can hey... Faster than I...can COOLING hey... This is cooling This is cooling > From: Mikewhy[SMTP:mikewhy@iglou.com] > Sent: Thursday, May 28, 1998 1:32 AM > To: Yasmin Lori Ravard > Subject: Re: Cooling > > >Are the lyrics to Cooling on the Dent correct? > > > I am not sure...I think they are close...but not perfect. > > Yours in Tori, > Mikewhy > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > Michael L. Whitehead > mikewhy@iglou.com > My Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe => > http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html > > "Moses I know, I know you've seen fire, > but you've never seen fire > until you've seen Pele blow..." Tori Amos > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 14:16:57 +0000 From: "Nicole Renee Parker" Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V3 #204 Hey Everyone! I've never posted before so if I goof it up excuse me. As for interpretations I always check out http://members.aol.com/WeirdyBoi/ToriSongPlace.html Some guy named J'ason runs it and he has put all kinds of cool stuff up that *TORI HERSELF* says about her songs. There is alot about bells for her on there. Nicole > Date: Mon, 01 Jun 1998 23:33:09 -0400 > From: Beth Coulter > Subject: Re: bells for her > > In an interview on Canadian TV in 1994, Tori very eloquently explains that > Bells is about a dear friend who was involved with an abusive guy. She > (Tori) had finally given an ultimatum to her friend that she could no > longer watch her inviting pain. The friend chose the guy and Tori wrote > this song about her feelings. At the end of that portion, she says that > her friend had left the guy and they were working on becoming friends again. > But Hanna, that was a really good try at interp. I myself had thought it > was about Tori's attempt to deal with all the many sides of herself. But > Tori expects us to put our own minds into the song, that is why she sings > in abstract. > FB, > Beth > At 05:17 PM 6/1/98 PDT, Hanna P. wrote: > > > >I heard that Bells for Her was the sequel to Me and a Gun if that helps > >at all, so I guess, I've made sense of the song that it was her > >post-rape feelings and it sounds like she in the song is trying to help > >other people, "you don't need my voice girl you have your own," > >demonstrates that (imho) because she is saying don't tell your > >experiences thorugh me, don't live my experience, but speak out for > >yourself, build up the courage and do it. Hope I may have helped. > > > >Love Always, > > > >Hanna Nicole Renee Parker butterfly@tamu.edu Caught in an identity crisis somewhere between goody-two-shoes and pure evil. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 13:54:35 EDT From: Leannoth@aol.com Subject: BfP cover artwork Right after Boys for Pele came out, Tori did an interview, I believe on "the World Café" on WNKU, a local station to Northern Kentucky. I don't know if anyone else out there lives within WNKU's range or heard it, but it was a really good interview. I had it on tape for awhile but I think I may have loaned it to a friend and I don't remember ever seeing it again! :( I need to track it down. ANYWAY, Tori explained what the album as a whole meant and what the cover art meant, too. She told how it was all a story about a girl trying to work through her conflicting emotions, how she goes to different people that each promise her something new but they can't ever satisfy what she is searching for. In the end ("Putting the Damage On," I would believe) she realizes that the only way that she can get through her pain is to confront it. The cover art basically shows the girl with her conflicting emotions. She has a gun, but it is not cocked, she's not ready to shoot at anything. She is not angry, but very calm. The snake sort of represents Lucifer, I think, he being one of the people that the girl went to visit. The dead rooster represents the part of her that she feels she has lost, the part that is dead. She's been through a lot, her feet and legs are caked with mud. The door behind her is closed, representing that she has closed the door on a part of her life that she's afraid to open. And, of course, the burning piano. Now the back is a different story. The snakes are further away. The gun is against the wall and in her hand she holds a pig. The roosters are further away. The faces pressed against the window. And, looking at it now, I see for the first time that there is a small, dirty hand holding on to the slightly open door. So, you see, it's not simply a picture there for people to look at and go, "oh, that's nice, Tori on a porch," it all means something. I, personally, like the artwork. I didn't at first, but once I heard what it meant and began to understand it better, I've realized how much it stands for and it touches a new part of me. Anyhow, sorry this is so long and boring, I just wanted to share. ~~Andréa. ***You never looked so sane*** ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 08:31:54 -0700 From: "Pete Bottiglieri" Subject: Re: Cover Artwork > >okay, another post from me, I am going to kind of explain imho the >artwork on each album including YKTR. > >okay. > >YKTR-She's in a way rebelling against what she's been taught and how >she's been brought up. > >LE-She's showing how she was confined for so long and now she's finally >coming out of her "box" and using her voice (emotionally) > >UtP-It's very calm and relaxed, simple, not much going on, shoes pure >beauty in simplicity, kind of shows she's relaxed and relieved after >expressing herself truthfully (in LE) > >BfP-She's nurturing her darkside, and nurturning the unloved, expressing >a part of her that everyone has, but most are not willing to let it come >out and speak. > >FtCGH-I think as someone else said that it very much reflects Playboy >Mommy and it's about a whole different her because of her miscarriage >*and* marriage and as her just pening up a whole new world to herself. > >Sorry about all this. > >Love Always, > >Hanna > >"'Let go and Love,' Fuck that shit, my heart is scarred I have a tear >running down the middle of it and I am not ready to say 'Let go and >Love'"-TA > >"I'll measure time, I'll measure height, I'll calculate my birth >right..."-PJ Harvey > > >______________________________________________________ >Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com > I was always told that the artwork was a we bit more simpler than that. LE: Was inspired by the tale of Alice in Wonderland. The little piano, and the little box that She has outgrown(Just like Alice). That and the "Magic Mushrooms" are on the back and we all know what they look like. UtP: This was inspired to resemble a impressionistic painting, the soft blues and grays, and her, her hair blowing just slightly, and the fact that she is in a white dress suggestion some form of innocense BfP: I do agree it does show a much darker side to Tori, I mean it does also reflect the entire attitude of the album which is much darker than that of LE or UtP. FtCGh: I am not exactly sure why it is. Maybe it supposed to represent a way a preserving something forever, you know kind of like pressing a flower? That one I am still not sure about that one. Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! http://www.mailexcite.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 09:56:37 -0400 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Tori Dream (kinda) In the wee small hours of the morning, finally sleeping after 19 hours of writing (and reading) I have the most delicious dream. If I may? (If I may not, chances are you would not have read the question in the first place). ~~~~Dream~~~ I have tickets in hand for the Spectrum Show. I am standing outside the stadium with a group of friends and talking about the concert we are about to see. But then Spectrum security comes out to tell everyone waiting that they must line up in order of their ticket #. A lot of griping but the folks in the lot do as the Spectrum Guard said. The sun is still high in the sky and I realized that it is *much* to early to go in yet and expecting some kind of disappointing report. When everyone is lined up according to section, the security guys inform us all that the Spectrum has had some damage in the seating, so those with all 110 - 300 series tickets are to proceed to the ticket booth for a refund. So the only folks remaining are the 1000 of us with floor and bleacher seats. We are talking over what could possibly be going on when we are directed to the other side of the building, where a huge blue bus with a portrait of a merman is. We show our tickets to the bus driver (who looked like Joel a little) and climb aboard. It was a *Huge* bus that carried all thousend of us. Outside the city, he turns down a small street and parks in front of a medieval looking theatre that has on it's marquee *Private Party*. We line up outside the door and enter. All the seat numbers in this small theater have been transcribed to match our tickets and I am very pleased to have front row of the Right box (directly over the center stage and only about 5 feet above the stage itself). The house dims and I see Steve, Matt and Jon walk on stage (no opening act!!!) and music begins playing. Then Tori comes out and everyone is screaming and crying at this ultra-small venue. I look into her breath-taking face and she sits on the bench. As the light comes on her, she doesn't really play, just fingering the keys lightly and waits for the audience to fall silent. We do and she finally says, "Look Guys, the Spectrum is just kinda sucky for me and so I managed to rig it up here for you guys. The ones who got a refund will get free tickets when I play in the Fall. So you wanna parrr--tee???" she askes with a grin and whips into "She's your Cocaine". That was the jist of it, leaving out a lot of commentary about what the theatre looked like and what my personal feelings were, cause really, if you know me by now, I don't need to say. It'll never happen--her opening song confirmed that I was dreaming--but what a nice way to wake up after a healthy 3 hours sleep! Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** I gave my life to become the person I am. Was it worth it? - -richard bach- ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 22:09:48 +1000 From: Danielle Ringrose Subject: Interest in an Australasian ToriCon? My name is Dani Ringrose and I live in Brisbane, Australia. I am doing a mass-posting to all Australian and New Zealand Tori fans I can find, to see if they would be interested in coming to a ToriCon. People who read rec.music.tori-amos (RMTA) would understand what a ToriCon is, as they are organising their third(?) US con for August this year. A description of a Tori con could be described as thus: "ToriCon is an annual event put together for rec.music.tori-amos and any other toriphiles who wish to attend. it's basically a chance for us to get together in person and giggle a lot, and all toriphiles and their friends and lovers are welcome to attend." I am also hoping that any money we raise could be forwarded to RAINN. Details are yet tentative, because I would like to know what interest people have in this idea before I put more definite ideas into action. The ideas I *am* slushing around include the following: date: September-ish this year place: Brisbane, possibly Sydney. However, since Brisbane is my place of residence, it seems most likely that it would be easiest for me to organise a Con here. cost: I could not *possibly* begin to estimate cost until I have an idea of how many people are interested, and how long the Con would go for. I would set aside a couple of AU$100 for meals and accom (at least) and then extra for whatever means of travel it would take to get you to Con. I am trying to organise this for a couple of reasons. Firstly, the RMTA Cons have always sounded wonderful, and I have always been a little bit disappointed because I live in Australia; therefore attending overseas Cons are a *mite* expensive for us. Tori Amos also has a fairly large fan base in Australia, as online mailing lists such as OzTori prove. As I have been promising myself (in vain, sometimes) that I will visit some of these people some day, I think this could become the perfect opportunity to do so. And finally (the most important) this could also be a focus point for Austrlalians and New Zealanders to try and get Tori to tour here for her plugged tour. I would like to try and coincide the Con with sending off of petitions. Any ideas, thoughts, suggestions? I would appreciate even a mere "yes or no" interest, because then I know what I have to work with. But people who are willing to help organise, or who have ideas (particularly if you live in the Brisbane area), I would love particularly to hear from you. I will e-mail all respondents on further details. This has been an idea of mine for some time now, but recent mutterings on RMTA have made me finally get my butt into gear. Looking forward to hearing from all of you, Dani. PS Although I have posted to some mailing lists, I *would* prefer it if you replied directly to me. ...:: fadagurl@torithoughts.org ::... ...::lemonpie@psynet.net::... ...::http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Amphitheatre/1529::... "Every time I get near a sheep I get a little excited." Tori Amos. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 15:35:55 -0600 From: "Diana" Subject: Q Magazine Can someone help me obtain a copy of the Q Magazine with Tori in it? I've called all around Bozeman and no one here even carries that magazine. HELP! (Email me privately) Diana dianas@avicom.net ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 17:33:34 EDT From: Finney2567@aol.com Subject: Re:~~about my BfP review~~ I know for me, when i first heard BfP i was like "what's a blood rose or why is she calling him Father Lucifer?" But, i mean after a while it really didn't matter, because musically the album is loaded. The lyrics are so deep there hard to understand.. I mean who's album can you find with these lyrics? None....that's why it is so cool. Definetly check out the websites that have tori talking about what the songs mean, I learned a lot...The songs will begin to make a whole lot of sense.. I never really thought of the album cover as white trash, i thinks it's kinda cool. It never really had an effect on me. I think your opinion will change after time, right now you have so many albums to soak in your probably drowning...j/joking... later kim ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 17:29:29 -0400 From: "Nicole" Subject: Re: Cover Artwork Chloe wrote: > Does any one else think the FTCGH artwork looks like she's underwater? Yeah! I've always thought that. Especially the picture of her face down with her arms over her head (I think it's on the cover of the UK Spark Ltd.Ed.). And how did her lipstick not get smeared on the glass on that one? =) Nicole *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Nicole@torithoughts.org http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Mezzanine/4654 ICQ# 9479828 *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Corduroy pillows: They're making headlines! -Stephen Wright *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 16:31:43 -0500 From: boy wonder Subject: Re: Cooling lyrics i have a couple fixes for these: (this is what i hear) >Maybe I didn't like hear >But I still can't believe SpeedRacer is dead > >So then I thought I'd make some plans >But Fire thought she'd really rather be Water instead. > >And Piggy got a message for me, from Jesus -- i hear peggy, rather than piggy >And I heard every word that you have said >And I know I have been >DRIVEN like the snow > >But this is COOLING >Faster then I can >This is COOLING >Faster then I... > >But do I hate what she is... >Do I want to be her >And don't we love something fresh >Anything new, virgin > >Woman, [you] got too many brambles ---yes it is brambles >Hiding under these bushes >Woman,you got too many brambles >But I always liked a good storm >Always good for a storm.... > >ah... > >So then I've walked up to like -----so then love walked up to like/said i know that you don't like me much/let's go for a ride >Said I know that she don't like me much >Let's go for a ride >This ocean is wrapped around that pinapple tree >And is your place in heaven >worth giving up these kisses >these kisses... >these kisses... > >And Piggy got a message for me, from Jesus --- peggy >And I've heard every word >That you have said > >And I know I've been >DRIVEN like the SNOW... > >But this is COOLING >Faster than I can >hey... >Faster than I...can >COOLING >hey... >This is cooling >This is cooling > > > e verybody says sex is obscene .......... the only true obsc- enity is war....... http://www.overlap.org ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:47:50 EDT From: KAngela97@aol.com Subject: bells for her actually, I'm pretty sure that I heard that Bells for Her was the sequel to the Banana King (hence, it would be The Banana King Part II). Am I right? Where did I hear that anyway? ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1998 18:27:11 EDT From: AstroKitty@aol.com Subject: Re: Cooling lyrics Maybe these lyrics make more sense... < And Piggy got a message for me, from Jesus> And Peggy got a message for me, from Jesus [I like Piggy better as Peggy] And there are definitely brambles in this song < So then I've walked up to like [It sounds like "like" but, life makes more sense] Said I know that she don't like me much Let's go for a ride> So then love walked out to like [or is it "up" to like?] He said, "I know she don't like me much Lets go for a ride." and those are all my changes... otherwise I think they're correct ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 18:42:09 -0400 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Re: Cover Artwork At 12:15 AM 6/2/98 -0700, Chloe Sparkle wrote: > >> >> >> FtCGH-I think as someone else said that it very much reflects Playboy >> Mommy and it's about a whole different her because of her miscarriage >> *and* marriage and as her just pening up a whole new world to herself. > >Does any one else think the FTCGH artwork looks like she's underwater? Kind >of goes along with the "you say I'm an underwater thing" and Pandora's >Aquarium. > Also~~~A friend of mine noted the "fishbowl" effect, tori pressed against the glass and wondered if that could be comment on all of us "making her life into a fishbowl" ie, her wedding on the net soon after she had it, etc.... ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 18:10:57 -0400 From: ~*jenn*~ Subject: Re: Northern Lad lissa wrote: > I used to think I absolutely had to love every single one of her songs > because it's *Tori* but then I found myself really not liking God that much > (Is this just me or does anyone else sort of dislike this song?) I used to *love* god, but just b/c they played it at this club that was my home-away-from-home, and they didn't play anything else from tori, but as i began hearing it every night and every day in my cd player...sheesh...and i don't think it was overly played for me, b/c crucify *still* hasn't grown old and it's been 7 years now, y'know? so..i adore the message god sends (do you need a woman to look after you?), but, for the song..eew..and professional widow...i just don't think so. sorry! :) torihugs and faeriekisses, ~~*jenn*~ - -- ~~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~* We are all Faeries living underneath a leaf on a lily pad.~Tori ~~*Come dance in Jenn's Faerie Ring*~ http://www.jacksonville.net/~jenn/tori.htm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 02 Jun 1998 18:48:07 -0400 From: ~*jenn*~ Subject: Re: Cooling lyrics Yasmin Lori Ravard wrote: > > Here is what I have deciphered from the single version of Cooling mine are very close to yours..i'll just submit my differences and see what everybody thinks :) > > > And Piggy got a message for me, from Jesus > And I've heard every word, that you have said i hear: "and piggy got a message for me from Jesus and I've heard every word that Judas said > Woman,got too many brambles [I am not sure about "brambles"] that's what i hear too..but what exactly is a bramble?? > So then I've walked up to like "so then Love walked up to Like" > Said I know that she don't like me much "and said 'I know that you don't like me much'" I just *love* that song more than words can say... - -- ~~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~*:~* We are all Faeries living underneath a leaf on a lily pad.~Tori ~~*Come dance in Jenn's Faerie Ring*~ http://www.jacksonville.net/~jenn/tori.htm ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #205 *************************************