From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #187 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, May 19 1998 Volume 03 : Number 187 Today's Subjects: ----------------- FTCH preview ["Subashini" ] Bösendorfers and Kurzweils [Leannoth ] detailed info on Pinkpop [Dennis Snelders ] Re: sTori [SuGaRsTaRz ] Re: I miss Boys for Pele [SuGaRsTaRz ] Collected European Tour Info as of May 18 [Charlie Poole ] Covering commercials [Sara Hansen ] Re: I miss Boys for Pele [the Mermaid ] Re: sTori [Alicia ] Re: Bösendorfers and Kurzweils [Fireheart ] Vote for TORI! ["Giovanni" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 19:37:07 +0800 From: "Subashini" Subject: FTCH preview Hi there, This is a little preview of the FTCH album that I found in a local (Malaysian) newspaper. The album will only be released here tomorrow, so needless to say, I've been *dying* here. :) The newspaper is called The Star, and it's pretty much a respected publication. The preview is very positive, so that's a good thing. Anyway, here it is. Enjoy. Look Out For: Tori Amos- From The Choirgirl Hotel Nobody ever accused Tori Amos of being shallow. If anything, the opposite has been true - her albums have run so deep that some listeners have been left feeling as if they were in over their heads. Between the intensity of her performances and the complexity of her metaphors, the music on her last two albums, "Under The Pink" and "Boys For Pele", left as many listeners overwhelmed as elated. That situation should change with her fifth and newest album, "From The Choirgirl Hotel" (scheduled to hit our record stores tomorrow). Working on her first full-time band since "Y Kant Tori Read", the songs Amos finds at the "Choirgirl Hotel" are perhaps the catchiest and most accessible of her career. Not only is the music more listener-friendly, but the broader instrumental palette seems to have inspired a more panoramic sense of melody in Amos. These are big, broad-stroke songs, with sweeping choruses and dramatically detailed verses, songs that seduce the listener with the sheer scale and opulence of their sound. "Spark" starts off like some half-remembered dream, with a dull-chiming synth ticking off arpeggiated chords as treated guitar chords flash in the background like reflections in a dark room. Despite the graceful pulse of Matt Chamberlain's jazz-waltz drumming, the music's feel is awkward and groggy, and that sucks us into the first line: "She's addicted to nicotine patches." >From there, the song's various currents sweep the listener along, through the dramatic swirl of the bridge - a nice Elton John touch in the way the piano resonates the melody - until the final, eddying chorus brings us back to the beginning. It's such a giddily enjoyable ride, you almost don't notice how easily the lyrics sink in. Amazingly, Amos repeats that trick throughout the album, yet without reiterating any melodic ideas or stylistic devices. So the dark, itchy "Cruel" slithers along with its creep-show synths and throbbing, jungle-percussion like some sort of swap-rock variant on Nine Inch Nails, while "Playboy Mommy" staggers on to the sound of synthesised saxophones, its broadly swinging beat a parody of nightclub sophistication. Then there's "She's Your Cocaine", which runs through a veritable catalogue of Beatle-isms, from its stomping "White Album" verse to its semi-psychedelic "Magical Mystery Tour" bridge. The album's greatest strengths stem from the power of the playing. This is a band in the truest sense of the word, and when Amos connects with her band mates - as in "Liquid Diamonds", where her piano feeds of Chamberlain's drums as Jimmy Page played off John Bonham in Led Zeppelin - the effect is breathtaking. The best sense of how powerful a performer Amos has become is found in her ballads. Between the gentle, string-soaked phrases of "Jackie's Strength" and the slow, bittersweet cadences of "Northern Lad", Amos' sense of melody is so acute that she barely needs words to convey the emotions she addresses. It gets her ideas across so succinctly that there's no need to worry about how deep she's going - we're right there beside her, swimming like fishes. Whew! That took longer to type than I thought! All typos are solely mine. :) Subash ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:58:42 EDT From: Leannoth Subject: Bösendorfers and Kurzweils I know that Tori is a die-hard Bösendorfer piano-player, but now that she's began playing keyboards she's using a Kurzweil, which is made by Young Chang. I find Kurzweil keyboards hard to play. Does anyone know why she chose Kurzweil? As a pianist I naturally wonder. Thank you! ~~Andréa. *Happy for you, and I am sure that I hate you. Two sons too many, too many able fires.* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:39:33 +0200 From: Dennis Snelders Subject: detailed info on Pinkpop Hi! I have just added to my page a bunch of info on Pinkpop, including times and exact places for all the artists and info on radio, T.V. and internet broadcasts in the netherlands. people outside Holland will be able to hear Tori using real audio and real video! the URL for my page is http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/lot/1017/littleamsterdam.html (go to the tour page) and the URL for the Pinkpop website is http://www.vpro.nl/pinkpop Cya - -- Dennis Snelders e-mail: dsnelders@geocities.com Dutch Tori Amos page 'Little Amsterdam': http://www.geocities.com/hollywood/lot/1017/littleamsterdam.html ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:05:35 EDT From: SuGaRsTaRz Subject: Re: sTori My take on this entire situation with everyone instantly hating or loving FTCH is that some people are forcing themselves to like the album, even if they don't. "It's Tori, so I'm going to make myself like it." Everyone makes mistakes...listen to YKTR if you want proof of this! FTCH *is* insanely different, but just because it's Tori's work doesn't mean we have to force ourselves to like it....that "Stick it in the player on repeat for a fucking week before you can even begin to pass judgement!" comment is bullshit. That is insane and, frankly, it scares me a little. We can't make ourselves like certain girls...but we can tolerate them. cha cha cha, Kristy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 15:59:11 EDT From: SuGaRsTaRz Subject: Re: I miss Boys for Pele I know what you mean...FTCH *is* a very good album, i think...but BFP is just an album that i've lived by for so long...and it has so much meaning to me, hidden and obvious. i'm not sure if it's that i haven't had FTCH very long, or it just isn't as meaningful to me as BFP. BFP has been my favourite album for a very, very long time...i couldn't imagine anything beating it. FTCH just seems so less personal and, well, i also miss Bösey being up front...she's something that shouldn't be covered by loops and guitars and basses and drums and whatnot...i miss her. i think that's also why BFP is so special to me...FTCH just isn't as great as it was expected to be....i do like it, actually. it's different, very different. i think i like the albums on different levels, and that's why i feel this way. it's very hard to put htem into one category it's time to say goodbye now Kristy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 12:31:18 -0500 (EST) From: Charlie Poole Subject: Collected European Tour Info as of May 18 I will continue to post this as new info becomes available. I have nothing for too many of the dates. Please contact me at cpoole@indiana.edu if you have any additions or corrections. I am also making this information available on the Internet. Go to http://php.indiana.edu/~cpoole/toritour.html For current United Kingdom online ticket sales and venue information: Aloud.com - UK Live Music Tickets http://www.aloud.co.uk or tickets-online http://www.tickets-online.co.uk Last updated May 18th, 11:45am. NEW: Additions / Changes since May 3rd 5/21 UK - Manchester Apollo Show is at the Apollo - Tori listed Phone number for ticket orders. 5/22 UK - Glasgow Clyde Auditorium Another venue link. 6/1 The Netherlands - Landgraaf Pinkpop Festival Dennis Snelders' tour page 6/8 - Germany - Berlin Columbiahalle Not at the Tempodrom. 6/9 Germany - Frankfurt Alte Oper Sold Out! 6/13 - Germany - Bonn Museumsplatz Not the Museumsafer. 6/20 Switzerland - Zürich Kongresshaus Venue link added Tickets on sale now. 6/21 Italy Imola Festival Telephone numbers added Tickets on sale now. Added tour dates: 6/6 France - Paris Grand Rex 6/23 Germany - Frankfurt Alte Oper 7/1 Norway - Kristiansand Quart Festival Date Location Venue 5/20 UK - Liverpool Royal Court Address: Roe St Liverpool L1 Telephone: 0151-709 1808 Box Office: 0151-709 4321. http://www.merseyworld.com/royal_ct/ Tickets on sale now. 5/21 UK - Manchester Apollo Apollo Leisure (UK) Ltd, Manchester Apollo: 0161 2422560 http://www.key103fm.com/html/manchester_apollo.html Listing of events - includes Tori Tickets on sale now. Angela purchased her tickets using this number: (0541) 557 000 5/22 UK - Glasgow Clyde Auditorium Address: Glasgow Clyde Auditorium SECC Telephone: 0141-287-7777 http://www.secc.co.uk/ Listing of events - includes Tori http://www.feed.co.uk/gigguide.htm Listing of events - includes Tori Tickets on sale now. 5/24 UK - Newcastle City Hall Address: Northumberland Rd Newcastle upon Tyne NE1 8SF Telephone: 0191-222 1778 Box Office: 0191-261 2606 Fax: 0191-261 8102. Tickets on sale now. 5/25 UK - Wolverhampton Civic Hall Wolverhampton Civic Hall/Wulfrun Hall Address: North St Wolverhampton WV1 1RQ Telephone: (01902) 312029 Box Office: (01902) 312030 Fax: (01902) 713047. Tickets on sale now. 5/26 UK - Plymouth Pavillions Address: Millbay Rd Plymouth, Devon PL1 3LF Telephone: (01752) 222200 Box Office: (01752) 229922 Fax: (01752) 262226/601382. http://www.redtek.demon.co.uk/theatre/pavilions/may.htm Lists events through May 28 - No Tori info. Tickets on sale now. 5/28 UK - Portsmouth Guildhall Guildhall Walk Address: Portsmouth Hants PO1 2AB Telephone: (01705) 834146 Box Office: (01705) 824355 Fax: (01705) 834177. http://www.fareham.com/guild.htm Listing of events - includes Tori http://www.uropa.demon.co.uk/guild.htm Lists events for June and July only - No Tori info. Tickets on sale now. 5/29 UK - Nottingham Royal Centre Address: Theatre Sq Nottingham NO1 5ND Telephone: O115-948 3505 Box Office: 0115-948 2626 Fax: 0115-947 4218 http://www.netpresence.co.uk/royalcentre/concerthall/index.htm Listing of events - includes Tori email: m.grayson@royalcentre.emnet.co.uk Tickets on sale now. 5/30 UK - Sheffield City Hall Address: Barkers Pool Sheffield S1 2JA Telephone: 0114-273 4550 0114-272 2885 Box Office: 0114-273 5295/6 Fax: 0114-273 4289. 0114 272 6444 0114 278 9789 Tickets on sale now. 6/1 The Netherlands - Landgraaf Pinkpop Festival Saturday, May 30 - Monday, June 1 http://www.digitaal.com/festival/ Tori is listed. http://www.vpro.nl/data/pinkpop-98/menu.shtml Tori is listed (no English translation). http://www.geocities.com/Hollywood/Lot/1017/tour.html Dennis Snelders' tour page Tickets on sale now. 6/2 UK - London, UK Royal Albert Hall Tickets on sale now. 6/3 UK - London Royal Albert Hall Address: Kensington Gore London SW7 2AP Telephone: 0l71-589 3203 Box Office: 0171-589 8212 Fax: 0171-823 7725. http://www.uk-calling.co.uk/royal-albert/perform1.html Listing of events - includes Tori Tickets on sale now. 6/5 France - Paris Grand Rex Tickets on sale now. 6/6 France - Paris Grand Rex Tickets on sale now. 6/8 Germany - Berlin Columbiahalle Not at the Tempodrom as previously announced. Tickets on sale now. 6/9 Germany - Frankfurt Alte Oper Telephone: (Germany)-069-1340400 Sold Out! 6/10 The Netherlands - Den Haag Congresgebouw Sold Out! 6/11 Germany - Hamburg Stadtpark http://www.rrz.uni-hamburg.de/Hamburg/sight/stadtpark_english.html Tickets on sale now. 6/13 Germany - Bonn Museumsplatz Not the Museumsafer as previously stated. Tickets on sale now. 6/14 Germany - Stuttgart Killesberg Tickets on sale now. 6/15 Austria - Vienna Libro Music Hall Tickets on sale now. (RDT says "unconfirmed") 6/17 Germany - Nürnberg [Nuremberg] Serenadenhof Tickets on sale now. 6/18 Germany - München [Munich] Philharmonie Tickets on sale now. 6/20 Switzerland - Zürich Kongresshaus http://ticketline.ch/ Tickets on sale now. 6/21 Italy Imola Festival (RDT says "unconfirmed") Telephone: +39 2 48702726 +39 59 361344 +39 547 380111 Tickets on sale now. 6/23 Germany - Frankfurt Alte Oper Telephone: (Germany)-069-1340400 Tickets on sale now. 6/24 TBA 6/25 Denmark - Rosklide Roskilde Festival (RDT says "unconfirmed") Thursday, June 25 - Sunday, June 28 http://www.digitaal.com/festival/ http://www.roskilde-festival.dk/1998/english/musikken/ Tickets on sale now. 6/27 UK - Pilton Glastonbury Festival Pilton, United Kingdom (RDT says "unconfirmed") Friday, June 26 - Sunday, June 28 http://www.digitaal.com/festival/ http://www.glastonbury.co.uk/whatson/musicfestival.html e-mail: music.festival@glastonbury.co.uk "Well over 1000 performances over the three days. Over 500 bands will play on 17 stages as well as a multitude of other entertainment including theatre, cabaret, poetry, crafts, circus performances, cinema, comedy and a children's adventure play area with educational workshops." 6/28 UK - Newport Centre Address: Kingsway Newport NP9 1UH Telephone: (01633) 662660 Box Office: (01633) 662666 Fax: (01633) 662673. Rescheduled From May 19 Tickets on sale now. 6/29 TBA 7/1 Norway - Kristiansand Quart Festival http://www.dagbladet.no/quart/ Tickets on sale now. 7/3 TBA 7/4 Belgium Torhout 7/5 Belgium Werchter Additional information may be available at http://www.toriamos.org and, of course, at Mikewhy's wonderful Dent at http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html Thanks to Phillip Aldridge, Angela, Lisa Golmen, Mike Gray, Richard Handal, Michael Heiker, Antonio Martoni, Jesse McFarland, Rewt3, sabrina, Dennis Snelders, Susanne Tak, Christoph Viethen, Michael Whitehead, and, especially, to Adam Young (who first posted the tour info). In Tori, Charlie - -- Tori Amos tour info at: http://php.indiana.edu/~cpoole/toritour.html +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | C.W. Poole | "Charlie" | cpoole@indiana.edu | +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | To me happiness, true happiness is when you can really dance | | with sad. --Tori Amos | | I have spent a lifetime learning how to cry. --Janis Ian | *----------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 14 Aug 1998 18:36:45 -0400 From: "Geoff Moore" Subject: Liquid Diamonds I just thought that Liquid Diamonds' fade in was kind of strange. I mean, musically it's fairly common, but for Tori? She almost never fades in or out- and I can't think of any song with a fade in besides diamonds..... Geoff ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 16:56:26 -0500 From: Sara Hansen Subject: Covering commercials Hello hello all of you EWF's! First of all, thank you to everyone who helped me find my seat at the Rosemont. I guess it should be pretty good. Mikewhy, I heard you're going to be there! Will you wear a shirt that says "Mikewhy" so we'll be able to pick you out? :o) I know this will sound to strange to everyone, but I think this could be an interesting discussion. Today I was thinking about what Tori did to This Old Man, how she made it suddenly so emotional and beautiful... And then later I was thinking about Oscar Mayer. Hehe, Oscar Mayer has personal meaning for me, but I imagined Tori covering the song ("My bologna has a first name..." you know it) and it struck me that it would be gorgeous! If she did the same thing, you know, slowed it down... But it's rather short, so I was thinking what other commercial jingles could she cover? And put them all together maybe? I know she would get in trouble and never do that, but what do you all think? What jingles would sound lovely when changed to suit Tori? I'm imagining what she could do with "A-L-L the stain lifter that's all." oooh maybe the Mentos song! Help me out here people! I think this could be very interesting, what do you think? *DISCUSS* Love, Sara "Take a stand and say no to legalized marijuana" - -Beck ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 18:23:49 -0500 (CDT) From: the Mermaid Subject: Re: I miss Boys for Pele Okay ... this is really starting to tick me off. If you expect something to be great all the time, then expect to be disappointed all the time. I expect some level of decency from Tori's work, but realize too that she's capable of doing things that just plain suck. I bought ftCGH having heard only *1* song off of it, ONCE. It took a little bit, but I do like it. BfP took a long time to grow on me. I just didn't see the songs as being as deep as her past stuff. LE *will always* be my favorite Tori Album, for the simple matter that is is so personal to me; a lot of it hit too close to home, to the point I often refer to it as 'my life on CD, volume 1.' So Tori wanted to try something new. That was hte whole reason BfP was to be her Harpsichord album; it was something new, something different. ftCGH is her 'band' album ... and it's not much of a band, really ... You've got Steve, whom she's worked with before (on all her albums), and personally, I'd rather hear the live music than the canned stuff she did for the UtP tour. The thing I'm trying to get at here (and not doing a very good job of it, due to 8 months on next-to-no sleep), is that people try new things. If a musician did the same thing over and over and over again, a) they'd get burnt out and b) the audience would get bored. Too many times I've been able to turn on the radio, hear a few chords of a song, and know who it is, reguardless of whether or not I've heard that particular song before. If I buy and album, and all the songs sound the same, it gets returned (as is what happened w/Sheryl Crow's "Tuedsay Night music club" and Lisa Loeb's "Tails" ... there was some other group of late who's current song sounds like ther last song, and it just sickens me). The true artist isn't afraid of something new, and that's what Tori is ... an Artist. There's songs on the new album I don't care much for ... at the moment. I've always gone through a preiod w/her albums where I don't like such-and-such a song ... but they usually grow on me. It just ticks me off that so many people are complaining because she wanted to do something different. If you don't like the album, don't listen to it, don't complain about it; That's what return policies are for. Or give it a chance. I commented about BfP ... about not really liking all the songs everyone was ranting and raving about ... and got incredibly flamed for it. *ughs* I'm sorry if this came off sounding as a flame ... it's not intended as such (believe me ... I have one in mind concerning those ... necklaces), but please ... let's THINK about this rationally ... would you really want to listen to 4 albums that all sound the SAME? I love Tori, but even I can only take so much. -- The (tired) Mermaid ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 19 May 1998 00:03:26 GMT From: Alicia Subject: Re: sTori SuGaRsTaRz wrote: >We can't make ourselves like >certain girls...but we can tolerate them. >cha cha cha, >Kristy I think exactly the same, although I must admit at the beginning I did that. You see, I bought BfP because I loved CALS and adored Hey Jupiter, but PW took me a long time to get used to but I made myself listen to it and now I can't say I "like it", but (this is going to sound a bit strange) it's something I know and something I'm used to so I can listen to it, and sing along sometimes and it doesn't bother me. Then I hated "In the Springtime of his Voodoo", so I skipped it all the time and I never listened to it until last summer (!) when by chance I heard the line in which she sang "every road leads back to my door.." and the song began to sound beautiful all of a sudden. So what I'm trying to say is, don't force yourself to like them, let them find you, and if they don't just give them time and I think eventually they'll find a way to get to you anyway, because they're alive! (I'm convinced) Bye, take care you all, Alicia ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 22:18:23 -0400 (EDT) From: Fireheart Subject: Re: Bösendorfers and Kurzweils I'm sure we'll find out why Tori chose Kurzweil in July's Musician Magazine (: . I can't wait for it to come out, I heard it has a great cover of Tori and the band. Carrie-Ellen Batcheller HPs \||/ UNH Babcock Hall Box 2110 | @___oo Durham NH 03824 /\ /\ / (__,,,,| ) /^\) ^\/ _) web pages: ) /^\/ _) http://www.geocities.com/RainForest/9523 ) _ / / _) Lifestories: /9523/lifestories.html /\ )/\/ || | )_) Tori Amos trade list: /9523/tori.html < > |(,,) )__) || / \)___)\ "Poor little Earth she tried so hard | \____( )___) )___ to change our ways, sometimes she \______(_______;;; __;;; must get sick of this place" --"Floating City", Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 18 May 1998 21:58:31 -0500 From: "Giovanni" Subject: Vote for TORI! Hey, I was just at the DOTMUSIC website and they're having this poll about the BEST ALBUMS OF ALL TIME... and we all know that we MUST vote for Tori. hehe. So please go to: http://www.dotmusic.com/premier/index.shtml and find your way to vote! Also, this was so nice to see, if you click on "SOLO FEMALE" under "Dotmusic Suggestions" you can see that "Under The Pink" and "Little Earthquakes" are listed! That is so cool! Now if only "Boys For Pele" and "from the choirgirl hotel" were listed as well that would be perfect! And hey... why don't we put "Y Kant Tori Read" there too??? Hehe. ;-) But now... let's everyone VOTE! Cornflake City http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Lounge/1826/main.html ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #187 *************************************