From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #103 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, March 23 1998 Volume 03 : Number 103 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: precious-things-digest V3 #102 [LostSpireX ] Re: Another Topic change [Jessie L Ksanznak ] Re: Fwd: Most emotional Tori song [Simon Booth ] Re: Most emotional Tori song [Simon Booth ] Re: Another Topic change [Adia 509 ] Re: precious-things-digest V3 #102 [rain ] Favorite girls [Linette Voller ] Re: Another Topic change [sknauf@ibm.net] Collected US Tour Info as of March 23rd [Charlie Poole ] covers. [Toiletbag ] Tours and Tears [Beth Coulter ] Re: Tours and Tears [Fioena ] my favs... [jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn)] cover song.... [jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn)] New Tori wedding pic [Jennifer Cypres ] covers.... [jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn)] about the club dates we got....... [jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn)] RE: More Tour Info [Billings@WHAD.com] I would just DIE!!!!!!! [jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn)] My little perverted fantasy... [Space Dog ] most happy tori song...most emotional... [the happy phantom ] Re: Tori singing live... [SmerfCrazy ] RE: Tori singing live... ["Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V3 #102 << moon....big white moon....white as milk moon....youre all i can see from my window, here in the dark. your light falls silver and white across the walls of my cell. the night-tide surges strong in me. so strong i can feel the grip of their drugs loosen. they fancy themselves high priests. their gods have names like Thorazine and Lithium and Shock Therapy. but their gods are new and weak and cannot hope to contain me much longer. for i am the handiwork of far more powerful, far more ancient dieties. very soon my blood will learn the secret of the inhibiting factors the white-coated shamans pump into my veins. and then things will be very different, my beautiful moon..... my big moon........white as milk moon......red as blood moon..... >> who wrote that? that was my favorite book.. (sorry, non-tori related) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 02:05:49 -0500 (EST) From: Jessie L Ksanznak Subject: Re: Another Topic change Tori should cover: - -Dust in the Wind by Kansas - -Another Brick in wall by Pink Floyd - -Take On Me by A-Ha Jess Smile!!!!! :) http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/8616/ "Every moment of pleasure in life has to be purchased with an equal moment of pain." - -"Up the Long Ladder" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:12:30 -0600 (CST) From: Simon Booth Subject: Re: Fwd: Most emotional Tori song At 11:14 PM 3/20/98 EST, you wrote: > >In a message dated 98-03-20 21:59:24 EST, you write: > ><< What is the most emotional tori song for > everyone, what brings out the most inner emotions? >> > >Oh wow 4 me it would definately be "Hey Jupiter" it brings back memories & >emotions that are so painful...but it brings closure to them..oh well..its so >hard for me to explain... >peace out~ >dusk I think I know what you mean- to say it's haunting is a serious understatement. Simon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 01:12:24 -0600 (CST) From: Simon Booth Subject: Re: Most emotional Tori song At 09:13 PM 3/20/98 -0600, you wrote: > >Avernus_sad wrote: > > What is the most emotional tori song for > everyone, what brings out the most inner emotions? > As a newcomer to Tori's music it's hard to pick any one of her songs specifically but all of them in some way have been a catalyst of sorts, helping me see things about myself and about things going on around me in a new light, a sunrise after a long cold darkness. Learning to really feel again, the start of being myself after so much hiding. So much depth to her music and so much strength to be so open and not worrying about what others think. Some will say it's only music. To me it's been much more than that. There have been some things that I truly didn't understand until I started hearing Tori's music. Over the years I had created a false persona of sorts, because I didn't want to be hurt, I pretended not to feel or to care. Over time I let it take on a life of its own, to the point that everything said and done (and even thought!) was almost automatic. Like I forgot who I really was in a sense. I actually reached a point where I said and did things I didn't beleive in but by then it was all automatic. By the time I realized that I couldn't keep going like that I found that it was so hard to stop. I let other problems that happened to me affect me negatively and feeling bad actually felt good, if that makes any sense. I've been in a wheelchair the past 5 years (I am 27 now) and that added to the worsening 'persona'. I was even referring to time that went by as that day, that month, of the (fill in the blank) Year of Darkness. I found myself living a stereotype- really feeling scared but pretending to act tough and unphased by it, and making it a constant fight. And letting myself get angry and bitter about things even when I didn't know why. Gradually I started adapting both physically and mentally but it's been a very slow process. I slipped into a mode of apologizing how I felt if it deviated from the expected stereotype. I discovered Tori's music after seeing 'God' on MTV in 1994 but was too afraid to listen on my own, and again in 1996 after seeing 'Caught a Lite Sneeze' and 'Hey Jupiter' performed live on The Tonight Show and Saturday Night Live. And still kept hiding.... I produce a local cable access show and I was working the past few years to deliberately shock and offend the audience. Like a bad habit I couldn't get out of it. Doing material I didn't believe in, and some of it was getting very hateful- glorifying violence and death, to the point I was sickening myself, working the edit console almost roboticly. In December I completed the worst episode I had produced to date and decided then enough was enough. There was a real person there, a real person in the wheelchair and I wanted people to see that real person, even if ultimately no one has ever really known that person- even my own family and closest friends going back years. In January I was wheeling through a local electronics store and happended to pass through the CD section- and Little Earthquakes was right at my eye level (for me that's about 4'5" feet high sitting :-) ) Remembering my reaction to what I was in '94 and '96, I grabbed it and cruised straight to the checkout area. And the rest, as they say, is history! :-) Listening to her music has inspired me even further to be myself, to really feel and not feel bad about it. Being open and not worrying about what other people think. I even feel my own creativity starting to take off, ideas for writing I was until now afraid to express, for fear it wouldn't be acceptable. But some people don't like Tori's music but many more of us do and that is what's important :-) I can write and feel good about it the same way. I've never heard anything like and I truly admire her strength, to have endured so much and to be able to survive emotionally. The intensity on different levels. I mean, it's not a literal connection but being so moved hearing her music has been that catalyst I was talking about, a final push towards that sunrise after this long cold night. pardon the melodrama, but I've been wanting to say this for a while now. thanks to Tori, and to everyone else here on the list :-) Simon ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 02:42:21 EST From: Adia 509 Subject: Re: Another Topic change In a message dated 98-03-22 22:27:45 EST, allthegirlshateher@juno.com writes: << Ok, even done Tori's most Emotional and Happy songs from the crowd. How about this? What song (by another artist not already done by her) would you most like to hear Tori do in concert? Mine would hafta be "America" by Simon and Garfunkel Warren >> Here are way to many songs I would love to see her cover- REM-Strange Currencies Lou Reed-Perfect Day, Sattelite of Love Marylin Manson-The Man that You Fear (officially I'm not wild about him but this song has great lyrics) Joni Mitchell-Blue Sarah McLachlan-Into the Fire, The Path of Thorns, Black, Elsewhere, Circle, Hold On/Ice Cream,Ice, Fumbling Towards Ecstacy, Good Enough, Sweet Surrender, Adia, Do What You Have to Do, Angel, Black and White, Full of Grace, Last Dance Tom Waits-Ol'55 Janet Jackson-Where Are You Now? Pet Shop Boys-I'm not scared, I want a dog, Opportunities (Let's make lots of money), Love comes quickly, I want a lover, Later tonight, I want to wake up, It couldn't happen here, One more chance, What have I done to deserve this? (she should do the duet with Bono), Being boring, To face the truth, My October symphony, The end of the world, Jealousy, DJ culture, I wouldn't normally do this kind of thing, Liberation, Dreaming of the Queen, Yesterday when I was mad, One in a million, In the night, Paninaro '95, Jack the lad, Do I have to?, Don Juan, The sound of the atom splitting, Your funny uncle, It must be obvious, We all feel better in tthe dark (it would be real cool if she dueted with a rapper on this one), Hey Headmaster, Shameless, The truckdriver and his mate Noel Coward-I Love Were All U2-I Will Follow, Gloria, Tommorow, October, New Year's Day, Two Hearts Beat as One, "40", Bad, Pride, A Sot of Homecoming, Running to Stand Still, I Still Haven't Found What I'm Looking For, One Tree Hill, Trip Through Your Wires, Angel of Harlem, When Love Comes to Town, God Part II, One, Love is Blindness, Numb, Stay, Daddy's Gonna Pay for Your Crashed Car, Dirty Day, U2 (as Passengers)-Miss Sarajevo, Slug, Your Blue Room Sinead O'Connor-This Is To Mother You, Red Football, I Am Enough For Myself, In This Heart, Famine, A Perfect Indian Nirvana-All Apologies Scarlet Ribbons (by J. Segal/E. Danzig Irish Traditionals-On Raglan Road, The Night Before Larry was Streched, He Moved Through the Fair Bono/Gavin Friday-In the Name of the Father (she should do a duet of it with Patty Smith) You Made me the Thief of Your Heart The Carpenters-We've Only Just Begun, Superstar, Blur-Girls and Boys, Stereotypes, Country House, Entertain Me, Yuko & Hiro Cole Porter-You Do Something to Me, I've Got You Under My Skin, Don't Fence Me In, Night & Day, So In Love, Too Darn Heart, One Dove-Why Don't You Take Me? Loreena McKennit-The Dark Night of the Soul, All Souls Night, Full Circle, Marrekesh Night Market, Beth Orton-She Cries Your Name, Tangent, Galaxy Emptiness Prince-7 Ani DiFranco-Joyful Girl, Untouchable Face, Joan Osbourne-Ladder, Lets Just Get Naked Fiona Apple-The First Taste Enya-On Your Shore, Miss Clare Remembers, Aldebaron, Storms in Africa II, Evening Falls, How Can I Keep from Singing?, Book of Days, Lothlorien, Morning Glory, Hope Has a Place, On My Way Home, Bjork-Bachlorette, Army of Me, The Modern Things, Enjoy, Isobel, Like Someone in Love, Big Time Sexuality, One Day, Depeche Mode-Enjoy the Silence, I Feel You, Walking In My Shoes, Condemnation, It's No Good, The Love Thieves, Home, Belly-Untogether, White Belly, Stay, Sexy S, Dream On Me, Seal My Fate, Judas My Heart, H. Nilsson-Think About Your Troubles Mazzy Star-Fade Into You Minnie McCoy-Gonna bake My Biscuit Iggy Pop-Lust For Life James-Laid, Sometimes Jimi Hendrix-Angel, Are You Expierienced? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 00:26:55 -0800 From: rain Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V3 #102 "midnight blue:the sonja blue collection" by nancy collins. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~rain~~~~~~~~~~~ LostSpireX wrote: > > << moon....big white moon....white as milk moon....youre all i can see from > my window, here in the dark. your light falls silver and white across > the walls of my cell. the night-tide surges strong in me. so strong i > can feel the grip of their drugs loosen. they fancy themselves high > priests. their gods have names like Thorazine and Lithium and Shock > Therapy. but their gods are new and weak and cannot hope to contain me > much longer. for i am the handiwork of far more powerful, far more > ancient dieties. very soon my blood will learn the secret of the > inhibiting factors the white-coated shamans pump into my veins. and then > things will be very different, my beautiful moon..... my big > moon........white as milk moon......red as blood moon..... > >> > who wrote that? that was my favorite book.. > > (sorry, non-tori related) - -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * moon....big white moon....white as milk moon....youre all i can see from my window, here in the dark. your light falls silver and white across the walls of my cell. the night-tide surges strong in me. so strong i can feel the grip of their drugs loosen. they fancy themselves high priests. their gods have names like Thorazine and Lithium and Shock Therapy. but their gods are new and weak and cannot hope to contain me much longer. for i am the handiwork of far more powerful, far more ancient dieties. very soon my blood will learn the secret of the inhibiting factors the white-coated shamans pump into my veins. and then things will be very different, my beautiful moon..... my big moon........white as milk moon......red as blood moon..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:28:14 -0000 From: Linette Voller Subject: Favorite girls Happy songs: cornflake girl Mr zebra happy phantom god Most emotional: (well apart from all of them!) Tear in your hand precious things waitress silent all these years putting the damage on little earthquakes crucify (it was after all the song that got me into her) Sexy: Well it has to be leather! Talking about emotion and covers, I saw Tori's concert the day after it was announced that Kurt has killed himself, and her rendition of smells like teen spirit was to die for, most people didn't recognise it at first, and then you just 'felt' this wave of recognition sweep through the hall... fantastic! Luv'n'stuff Linette - ---------------------------------------------------------- How do I set my laser printer to stun? ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 20:42:22 +0800 From: sknauf@ibm.net Subject: Re: Another Topic change At 20:16 22/03/98 -0700, Warren asked: > > Ok, even done Tori's most Emotional and Happy songs from the >crowd. How about this? What song (by another artist not already done by >her) would you most like to hear Tori do in concert? I don't know why, but I always pictured Radiohead's "Fake Plastic Trees" as a Tori-concert song. I think she'd do a great job of that. I'd also love to hear her perform something by Jeff Buckley (r.i.p.)... maybe some of the slower songs like "Lilac Wine". Few artists could pull if off, but like Jeff, Tori has an "angelic" voice and really gets into the song she's performing, so it would work. And to anyone who doesn't have Jeff Buckley's "Grace", do yourself a favor and pick it up. Beautiful music, beautiful voice. sabrina ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:10:16 -0500 (EST) From: Charlie Poole Subject: Collected US Tour Info as of March 23rd Because of all the questions being asked I have assembled all the currently known information (including *RUMORS*) about the venues for the upcoming Tori club tour. I will continue to post this as new info becomes available. Please contact me at cpoole@indiana.edu if you have additions or corrections. I am also making this information available on the Internet. Go to http://php.indiana.edu/~cpoole/toritour.html Last updated March 23rd (in the very early morning). Date Location Venue 4/18 Ft. Lauderdale, FL Chili Pepper Address: 200 West Broward Boulevard Telephone: (954) 525-0094 http://nightguide.com/fll/data/n101466.htm This url is just a listing of the club info. 4/20 Atlanta, GA 30305 Roxy Address: 3110 Rosewell Rd. Telephone: (404) 233-1062 (404) 233-7699 http://www.consopro.com/frameset_body.html Lists events through April 8 only. All shows at the Roxy are all ages. e-mail: info@consopro.com RUMOR: Tickets MAY go on sale April 19. 4/22 Washington DC 9:30 CLub Address: 930 F St., NW Telephone: (202) 3-930-930 (concert line) http://dev.930.com/shows/930.html Lists events through May 7 - No Tori info. All 9:30 Club shows are all ages. 4/23 New York, NY Irving Plaza Address: 17 Irving Plaza Telephone: (212) 777-6800 http://www.irvingplaza.com/ Lists events through May 1 - No Tori info. All ages venue - wrist band needed for alcohol. 4/25 Boston, MA Avalon Address: 15 Landsdowne St Cambridge MA 02215-2424 Telephone: (617) 262-2424 http://www.tparty.com/tpc/avalonconcerts.html Lists events through May 2 - No Tori info. "No info before next week." RUMOR: Tickets may be sold through Mama Kin (NOT Avalon). 4/26 Philadelphia, PA Electric Factory Address: 1231 Vine St Telephone: (215) 569-9400 http://www2.electricfactory.com/venues/factorypage.html Lists events through May 6 - No Tori info. All ages venue (upstairs bar). "Club" shows may be restricted to 21 and over. e-mail: efclist@electricfactory.com This address for mailing list subscription. 4/28 Toronto, ONT M4X 1K2 Phoenix Address: 401 Sherbourne St. Telephone: (416) 323-1251 http://www.libertygroup.com/phoenix/concert.htm No concerts listed. http://www.starcitysearch.com/E/V/TORON/0011/38/05/ Only one event listed for March 25. 4/29 Detroit, MI 48226-2912 St. Andrews Address: 431 E Congress St (St. Andrews Hall) Telephone: (313) 961-8137 http://www.961melt.com Lists events through Apr 7 only. "No information yet available." 105.1 (The Edge) FM radio may release some info in the future E-mail: Studio@Radioedge.com 4/30 Chicago, IL 60614 Park West Address: 322 W Armitage Ave Telephone: (773) 929-1322 (773) 929-5959 http://www.chicago-guide.com/main/venues/parkwest.htm Lists events through March 28 only. http://centerstage.net/chicago/listings/music/venue/ParkWest.html Lists events through April 23 only. http://www.metromix.com/object/ (cut&paste these together) 9586.html?search_text=Park+West&distype=detail&oid=732 This url is just a listing of the club info. Shows _usually_ restricted to 21 and over. May 1998 5/03 Seattle, WA 98121 Moore Theatre Address: 1932 Second Avenue Telephone: Theatre - (206) 443-1744 Business - (206)467-5510 http://www.themoore.com/ Lists events through October - No Tori info. I've been told that this club is generally all ages. e-mail: soldout@themoore.com 5/04 San Francisco, CA Fillmore Address: 1805 Geary Blvd. (415) 346-6000 (recorded info) (415) 346-3000 (live person) http://www.thefillmore.com/beta01/index.html Lists events through April 24 - No Tori info. All shows listed are all ages. 5/05 Los Angeles, CA 90036 El Rey Theatre Address: 5515 Wilshire Blvd Telephone: (213) 936-4790 (recorded info) (213) 936-6400 (live person) (213) 954-8881 (special events line) http://hollywired.net/elrey/ This url is just a listing of the club info. http://www.goldenvoice.com/venues.html#elrey Another listing of the club information. http://www.casenet.com/concert/elrey.htm This is a multi-venue listing. No concerts listed for the El Rey. All ages. *RUMOR* The theater said concert to be on the 6th. Additional information may be available at http://www.toriamos.org and, of course, at Mikewhy's wonderful Dent at http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html ProTix and Ticketmaster have no information on Tori Amos concerts. http://www.ticketmaster.com http://www.protix.com Tori is NOT touring with the Lilith Fair. Info on the Lilith Fair is available at: http://www.lilithfair.com Thanks to Adam, Amber, Beth, KKelly, Michael, Monicat, Neile, RDT, Rusty, Trent, Zoe and especially Laura (who first posted the tour info). Hope I haven't forgotten anyone. Thanks also to everyone who has contacted me with corrections and additions. In Tori, Charlie - -- +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | C.W. Poole | "Charlie" | cpoole@indiana.edu | +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | To me happiness, true happiness is when you can really dance | | with sad. --Tori Amos | | I have spent a lifetime learning how to cry. --Janis Ian | *----------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 08:14:06 -0500 (EST) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: More Tour Info On Fri, 20 Mar 1998, Jason Bilsky wrote: > the point I'm trying to make (probably badly) is that, at this point in her > career, Tori is notcapable of doing club shows. Look, I'm sorry if that's what she > *wants*, but there's a reason > that Elton John, Billy Joel, Pearl Jam, etc, don't play clubs either. The amount > of people that > want to see them way outstrips capacities. Elton John recently played at the same venue Tori is playing here in Atlanta. And Elton is -much- bigger than Tori. R.E.M. can also regularly be found on the club circuit, especially around here. Ditto for the Indigo Girls {actually, -especially- the Indigo Girls, they're always doing club dates around here between albums and such}. In fact, many artists do this sort of promotional tour before te album is released. Yeah, it kinda sucks for those who want to go to -all- the shows, but she -will- be doing a full-fledged tour later this year. So while you may not be able to go to -this- show, you'll be able to get to one of the "traditional" tour dates later this year. *shrug* But that's just my $.02 {where the hell's the cents key?!}. /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 07:57:13 EST From: Toiletbag Subject: covers. i'd like to hear tori do a smiths cover... maybe "how soon is now?" or "heaven knows im miserable now." yeah... either one of those would sound great, eh? - -=-marisajo.-=- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:56:39 -0500 From: Beth Coulter Subject: Tours and Tears >On Sun, 22 Mar 1998, woj spice wrote: >> -- i would be much more gung-ho about trying to get in to one of >> these shows if i hadn't been lucky enough to have seen her play even >> smaller spaces back in 1992 . Then at 07:05 PM 3/22/98 -0500, King Charlie wrote: >I, too, was lucky enough to first see Tori in a small club, But I feel exactly the opposite. Having already >seen her in a small club has wheted my appetite even more to see her in a >small venue again. >I've also seen Tori in large auditoriums. While that's is certainly a >wonderful experience, nevertheless, they are *very* different experiences. >I, too, understand your frustration, woj, with people not paying attention. >Had Atlantic (or Tori's tour people or whoever is in charge of developing >the venues and confirming the dates) simply released some dates for the >rest of the tour maybe some people could rest easier. Nah! Then we'd be >getting all of the "Why isn't Tori coming to ?" comments >which we are already getting. I guess we're just going to have to be a >little more patient. ;-) No, that probably won't work either. Now this makes me sad, that this sort of discussion has to occur. I have had to bite my fingers all day yesterday to keep from writing a real snotty note about everyone who is unhappy with the way it (ticket sales, date announcements) has been done, should boycott the club tour and leave room for those of us who don't waste time being angry at silly things. But I don't want to dis anyone, and I really agree that everyone is entitled to their own opinion, so I don't believe what I wrote above. No flames please. I have seen Tori twice, at the Tower in Philly in '94 (really one of the worst venues in the US--Tori never should have booked there) and MSG for the RAINN concert. The thought that for once I will be able to see Tori in a smallish venue with people who feel about her the way I do (there won't be a single person there because a "hey, a concert, let's go party" additude) fills me with happiness. How wonderful, how special, that Tori feels so strongly about us EwF that she is doing these smallish venues to give us a sneak peek. A reward for long, loyal fandom. I can be assured that the people around me at this show are going to be as thrilled as me, not dissing her cause she's not what they expected. I mean, Wow! Think about it! If I could not go, if I lived miles to far to go, I would still think, Wow! What a great thing! I would be so excited for the ones that could go, and wait in anticipation for their reviews on the show. I would be excited at the prospect of hearing a new concert in a trade. I wouldn't be screaming that it isn't the fair way, I would know that the real tour would be happening eventually. I probably will not go to any tour concerts personally. I don't care for crowds and big venues and firework displays on stage. I'm really quite content to hear boots or see the occasional video. Yes, Bethey, in all of her devotion, will not go to concert after concert. I can't afford it, and quite frankly, after some of the comments that have been made on this list, I don't think I would enjoy seeing Tori with some of you in the audience. I don't like negitivity and suspicion. It simply ruins the experience for me. So I take my right to not attend. But for the Club Show, Wow! I know I need to be patient and I *know* my patience will be rewarded. Those tickets aren't going to be offered to anyone else till we EwF have our opportunity to get them. And you know, if this works without too many fuck-ups and complaints, this might just become a way of selling tickets for Tori Shows from now on. Even for the big tour maybe, we might just get the advance notice we need to get good seats without having to battle at the box office or getting burned by TicketBasterd. Pearl Jam tried to avoid the rip-offs and were sorta successful (oh please, don't flood me with corrections about what a fuck-up it was) in getting tickets to the fans. I'm really sorry this is so lengthy and I hope I haven't insulted anybody, but please pay attention to what the *real news* is as opposed to jumping to conclusions and spouting your rage. Have patience and understanding. Tori is not a magician, she can't do everything to please everyone. Give her a break and appriciate the effort she makes. And most important, Trust Her! That's all. Trust in Tori to do the best she can. Fairy Blessings, Bethey I'm OK when everything's not OK cause it's the Fairies Revenge they say and I have always been a Fairy *************************************************************** I gave my life to become the person I am. Was it worth it? - -richard bach- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:25:22 EST From: Fioena Subject: Re: Tours and Tears gosh Bethey what's up your ass? I've never seen Tori before and I'm truly very excited about ANY tour she has....so if I act nervous about no ticket info yet it's because i've (along with many others here) been dying to see Tori for a lonnnnng time and we're this close now to seeing her, I dont want to miss my chance!!!! ~Claire fioena@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:18:24 -0500 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: my favs... most emotional: silent all these years, Hey Jupiter happiest: musically , cornflake girl lyrics wise.....ummm idontknow :( sexiest: leather (hehe) Jenn :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:20:23 -0500 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: cover song.... I would like to hear her do fly, by celine dion..... it's really pretty and with toris voice and emotions it'd be awesome :) - -Jenn :) ps sorry I'm going post happy :~) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:22:00 -0500 From: Jennifer Cypres Subject: New Tori wedding pic Whoever posted that they have put up a pic with Tori and her dad on their website-- I went to that site and I waited FOREVER for it to download, and it just wouldn't (all the way). I just got the top of the picture. Wondered if perhaps you could email it to me (if it's a JPEG or a GIF or a TIFF) to jcypres@aol.com. Many thanks! - -jen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:29:07 -0500 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: covers.... I agree with aerosmith dream on, since someone mentioned Edie Brickell what about.......circle??? - -Jenn :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 11:35:27 -0500 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: about the club dates we got....... ok...... I've called the Avalon in Boston, MA and they don't know anything about Tori being there they haven't heard a word.... how accurate are these club dates we got????? I mean shouldn't the vendor know about them before or at least at the same time as us???? anyone with any info can just e-mail me personally....so we don't clog up everyone's mailboxes...thankz - -Jenn :) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 10:31:25 -0600 From: Billings@WHAD.com Subject: RE: More Tour Info C'mon guys - stop the whining! I, too, would be disappointed if I Tori had not chosen Chicago as a "club-tour" date; but the "club-tour" is a BONUS - much like her B-sides and covers. Everyone needs to chill and remember that our Tori will be gracing her usual stateside concert stops after she finishes touring Europe. She is not purposely neglecting her fans; on the contrary - the addition of this "club-tour" only shows Ms. Amos' devotion to her fans, and her decision should be lauded instead of criticized. Just my opinion, folks. D. Eric Billingsley "The passion for destruction is also a creative passion." >---------- >From: Jason Bilsky[SMTP:fuzzbox@world.std.com] >Sent: Friday, March 20, 1998 8:22 PM >To: Nadyne Mielke; precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: Re: More Tour Info > > >>> That means that 80% of those who saw her during her big tour won't be >>> able to see her at the club tour. Were she only doing this tour in the >>> US, I could see your point. But she is coming back around, and those >>> 80% will have their chance to see her. >> >>the point I'm trying to make (probably badly) is that, at this point in her >>career, Tori is notcapable of doing club shows. Look, I'm sorry if that's >>>what she >>*wants*, but there's a reason >>that Elton John, Billy Joel, Pearl Jam, etc, don't play clubs either. The >>>amount >>of people that >>want to see them way outstrips capacities. All this leads to is frustration >>>on the >>behalf of the >>fans, and a LOT of unhappy people who will, after camping overnight for >>>tickets, >>get shoved >>into a tiny room filled to more than capacity which will distract from the >>>very >>show that they >>want to see, if they even got a ticket.. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:01:31 -0500 From: jls7@monadnock.keene.edu (Jenn) Subject: I would just DIE!!!!!!! I'm sorry but I have to say it if Tori Amos EVER did a cover of Marylin Manson I would die.... no first I would bawl for months and then I would shrivel up and DIE!!!!! - -Jenn ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Once you get to know sad... she's got some sweet little dresses, you know?" - -Tori Amos - -Spin, 1994 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 09:16:46 -0800 From: Space Dog Subject: My little perverted fantasy... I think Tori's songs can be incredibly sexy, incredibly passionate, and incredibly insightful and touching all at the same time. But a fantasy of mine would be to make love while Tori's version of Down By The Seaside with Robert is playing, then bask in the afterglow while Strange Fruit is playing. Oh! That would do it for me!!! Mmmmmm... OK, my pics: Touching: Winter (RAINN concert) Happy: Happy Phantom Sexy: Down By The Seaside (I know, not really HERS, but she knocks me out when she does it!) - --JOE (the pervert) ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:18:16 -0500 (EST) From: the happy phantom Subject: most happy tori song...most emotional... my most emotional tori songs.... precious things marianne yes, anastastia doughnut song most happy tori songs... happy phantom cornflake girl in the springtime of his voodoo - ------------------- kate hardison join the campaign to save the dragons... hardic2@rpi.edu http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/3886/dragons.html epsilon iota chapterof the psi uspilon fraternity 'i'm only hangin' on to watch you go down, my love...' 'the calf that you carve with a smile is MURDER...and the turkey you festively slice is MURDER...do you know how animals die?...kitchen aromas aren't very homely...it's not "comforting", "cheery" or "kind"... it's sizzling blood and the unholy stench of MURDER...it's not "natural", "normal" or kind...the flesh you so fancifully fry...the meat in your mouth as you savour the flavour of MURDER NO, NO, NO, IT'S MURDER who hears when animals cry?' 'you're taking steps that make you feel dizzy, then you learn to like the way it feels...you hurt yourself you hurt your lover, then you discover what you thought was freedom is just greed...goodbye...and it's emotional... good night...i'll be up with the sun...you're still holding on i'm not coming down...' 'your catholic blues, your convent shoes, your stick on tattoos, now they're making the news...your holy war, your northern star, your sermon on the mount from the boot of your car...please...please...please... get up off your knees...please...please...please... leave me out of this please...' 'i can't believe the news today, i can't close my eyes and make it go away. how long, how long must we sing this song? how long? tonight we can be as one. broken bottles under children's feet, bodies strewn across a dead end street, but I won't heed the battle call, it puts my back up, puts my back up against the wall...sunday, bloody sunday...' 'and so we are told this is the golden age and gold is the reason for the wars we wage...' 'hey farmer farmer, put away that ddt now...give me spots on my apples, but leave me the birds and the bees...please!!! don't it always seem to go, that you don't know what you've got till it's gone...they paved paradise and put up a parking lot...' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 12:14:34 -0600 From: Billings@WHAD.com Subject: RE: HappyToriSongs I've always found "London Girls" to be a rousing bar-song - one that we can all sing along with (of course, most of us attempt to sing along with EVERY Tori song - at least in the shower!). D. Eric Billingsley "The passion for destruction is also a creative passion." >---------- >From: Len Alan Demby[SMTP:demby@pilot.infi.net] >Sent: Saturday, March 21, 1998 9:20 PM >To: Precious Things >Subject: Happy, happy,joy,joy > > >Hi everybody, >The Tori's song that make me happy are precious things,God,Muhammad My >Friend, Little Amsterdam, and Talula. > Len > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:28:25 -0500 From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: Tori singing live... Hey guys! I would love to hear Tori singing a Fiona Apple song, either "Sleep To Dream" or "Shawdowboxer". Also, I would DIE DIE DIE of happiness if Tori ever did Fleetwood Mac's (Stevie Nicks's) "Rhiannon", "Silver Springs", "Gypsy", "Sweet Girl", "Dreams". Damn, that would REALLY kill me. Those songs mean SO much to me, especially "Silver Springs". Also, I would love to hear Tori singing Sarah Mclachlan's (yes I can spell, hehe) "Building A Mistery" or well, "Possession" too. And a Madonna song too, just to top it off! Umm... let me think... "Oh Father" and "Like A Prayer", the former, especially. Wouldn't anybody love to listen to Tori singing the lines "You can't hurt me now, I got away from you, I never thought I would, you can't make me cry, you once had the power, I never felt so good about myself. Oh Father, you never wanted to hurt me, you never wanted to live that way, you never to wanted to hurt me, why am I running away?" ? I know I would. I always weep to that Madonna song, it kills me. Cool topic! Giovanni "Time cast its spell on you but you won't forget me" Stevie Nicks, "Silver Springs". ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 13:58:39 EST From: SmerfCrazy Subject: Re: Tori singing live... In a message dated 3/23/98 10:41:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, gmantill@www.speednet.com.co writes: > Wouldn't anybody love to listen to Tori singing the lines "You > can't hurt me now, I got away from you, I never thought I would, you can't > make me cry, you once had the power, I never felt so good about myself. Oh > Father, you never wanted to hurt me, you never wanted to live that way, you > never to wanted to hurt me, why am I running away?" ? I know I would. I > always weep to that Madonna song, it kills me. YES YES YES!!!! i saw this video a few weeks ago and immediately thought the same thing!!!!! i dont even like madonna that much, but i would LOVE to hear tori doa cover of this song. i think it would kick total ass! oh well, just a groovy thought i guess. im shutting up now. j :if i could be who you wanted all the time..." ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Mar 1998 14:02:42 -0500 From: "Giovanni Mantilla" Subject: RE: Tori singing live... This is one of my favorite Madonna songs... everybody should pick up a copy of her new album "Ray Of Light". ;) But no, this song is NOT on her new album, it's on the "Like A Prayer" one. Get that one too. hehe. Shameless promotion, Giovanni - -----Original Message----- De: SmerfCrazy Para: gmantill ; precious-things@smoe.org Fecha: Lunes 23 de Marzo de 1998 04:55 PM Asunto: Re: Tori singing live... >In a message dated 3/23/98 10:41:40 AM Pacific Standard Time, >gmantill@www.speednet.com.co writes: > >> Wouldn't anybody love to listen to Tori singing the lines "You >> can't hurt me now, I got away from you, I never thought I would, you can't >> make me cry, you once had the power, I never felt so good about myself. Oh >> Father, you never wanted to hurt me, you never wanted to live that way, you >> never to wanted to hurt me, why am I running away?" ? I know I would. I >> always weep to that Madonna song, it kills me. > > >YES YES YES!!!! i saw this video a few weeks ago and immediately thought the >same thing!!!!! i dont even like madonna that much, but i would LOVE to hear >tori doa cover of this song. i think it would kick total ass! oh well, just a >groovy thought i guess. im shutting up now. > >j >:if i could be who you wanted all the time..." > ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #103 *************************************