From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V3 #6 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, January 6 1998 Volume 03 : Number 006 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Love among Toriphiles. [Torifile ] Re: Re:flub ups [Lanna Chidester ] a match made in Tori [hope414@houston.email.net] Re: precious-things-digest V3 #5 [MM62 ] Re: precious-things-digest V3 #5 [MM62 ] Re: Merry Clayton [violet@slip.net] Re: jumping on the bandwagon [Ken Tough ] precious-things [e112851@ceng.metu.edu.tr (AKTUG IREM)] Re: Tori on Bootlegs [Traumachik@aol.com] My Vertigo list coming soon /Tori - Death Tshirt??? ["Josh Kostka" ] Re: Tori on Bootlegs [Stephanie Handley ] Re: Merry Clayton [WeirdyBoi ] Re: IGG [Stephanie Handley ] Re: a match made in Tori ["Allan Hudgins" ] Re: A couple of questions about things I found today... [Ken Tough ] Re: Unique Clones (was Really Important Tori News!!!) [Dave Woodson ] new album and Great Expectations [clockwork_lemon@juno.com (Natalie T Bal] Re: Stepping down from my ammunition [clockwork_lemon@juno.com (Natalie T] Re: UniqueClones [Hannah ] Re: new album and Great Expectations [Alicia ] Tori and =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rk?= [Alicia ] aha! [rain ] Re: Stepping down from my ammunition [ChinaDust ] #Tori Sponsoring a GE chat [Ashley Blaize ] Re: Stepping down from my ammunition [Jessie L Ksanznak ] Re: aha! [WeirdyBoi ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:12:44 EST From: Torifile Subject: Love among Toriphiles. Ok. I wanted to know if there were any Toriphiles that, like, fell in love over the net, or other places. I was just wandering, because i have been talking to one toriphile that I really really really like named ??? {you know who you are} She is so sweet. And we are just alike!! Welp, thats all from this little Ear with Feet. Love ya Davey ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 22:36:51 -0800 (PST) From: Lanna Chidester Subject: Re: Re:flub ups me too me too... i thought it said the release me thing.. also i thought in little amsterdam it said "i'm just coming out of the self in my brain"... lol ttfn - ---Raven wrote: > > For the longest time I thought where she said "please be, save > >me, I cry" was "these chains are broken". > > I always thought (my boyfriend too) that she was saying please...release me...chains....release > me... > > Hmmm... > > Raven > Maybe we're just sick and twisted... > --- > --Raven > > --This door is Baroque, please call Bach later. > > --"and i hate...and i hate...and i hate elevator music, the way we fight, the way > i'm left here, in silence..." > Little Earthquakes, Tori Amos > > > > > > > Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere! > http://www.mailexcite.com > _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 01:15:12 CST From: hope414@houston.email.net Subject: a match made in Tori >Ok. I wanted to know if there were any Toriphiles that, like, fell in love >over the net, or other places. GRIN. Yes, I'd like to know, too. Now the little gears in my head are a'turnin... and I think it would be neat to run a Tori Dating Service of some sort. Hooking up Toriphiles... now that is a great idea! Okay, I'll have some fun with this and just give an example of my personal ad: SWFT (single white female toriphile..heh) seeks a sensitive, caring male Toriphile, 18-30, somewhere in Texas, must have job, stability, and a deep profound love for Tori Amos and her craft. Okay, okay... hehehehe.. Well I wanted to touch on a serious topic here... (holy non-sequitor, Batman!) There's been talk about IGG... and other services which sell collectible Tori items. In my experience, CD NOW and Rainy Day Records are the absoulte BEST! I want to put in a good word for these guys, because they have been completely reliable, and I would not have all the wonderful collectibles that I now have if it weren't for them. The day I recieved Dew Drop Inn Boulder was one of the happiest days of my life! I've ordered again and again from both services, and recommend them wholeheartedly. Who needs IGG? I've heard enough complaints about them.. wouldn't touch them with a 10-foot pole. Okay, enough rambling... Happy New Year, fellow ears with feet! Hope ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 02:34:28 EST From: MM62 Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V3 #5 In a message dated 1/4/98 10:55:02 PM, you wrote: <> oh i feel the same way! i love that one line (well uh i love the rest too but y'know) =0) i know so many tori ears w/ feet that bought her stuff and didn't like it for years! i bought utp like 2 yrs before i started to listen to it religiously. the same w/ le and i only really like bfp until after i saw tori in concert for the first time. oh and joanna I ABSOLUTELY HATE PORTISHEAD (NOOOO JUST KIDDING, THIS IS SORT OF AN INSIDE JOKE) no i love them. and i agree w/ the person who said that many people begin to like certain things just b/c tori does. i've found though, ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 02:37:09 EST From: MM62 Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V3 #5 damn, don't you hate it when you accidentally press send!!!! is there any way to stop it once you've pressed the button by accident? anyway, the rest of my post... i have found THAT tori has sort of brought things out of me that i'd forgotten about. like i totally loved fairies when i was younger and had all these beautiful books on them and stuff. after reading about tori and her fairies i began to look at them again and realized how much i missed all that stuff.... ok that was it.... count down to great expectations: a little under 48 hrs!! mm62 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 03:23:46 -0800 From: violet@slip.net Subject: Re: Merry Clayton Merry is indeed singing the "and the man with the golden gun thinks he knows so much, thinks he knows so much, yeah" phrase at the end of Cornflake Girl. If anyone wants to check her acting talents out, look for reruns of "Cagney and Lacey"...Merry joined the cast as Isbecki's partner, Detective Verna Dee Jordan, five episodes into the final season (1987-1988). She's performed musically on many projects (NUMEROUS backing vocals, on albums like The Who's original cast recording of "Tommy" and Carole King's "Tapestry," to name just a couple), but she might be most familiar to people as having performed the song "Yes" on the "Dirty Dancing" soundtrack (the reason I say this might be most familiar to people is because just about everyone has either seen the film, heard the album, or knows someone who has it). Her last solo release was a gospel album titled "Miracles" in 1994. Here are a couple of pretty short RealAudio files from that album, if anyone would care to have a listen: Open Up Your Windows http://www.tunes.com/tunes-cgi2/tunes/track_metafile/160487/9/8/76 What About You http://www.tunes.com/tunes-cgi2/tunes/track_metafile/160492/9/8/76 Since Merry spent her career singing funk, disco, rock, and soul, her gospel songs are pretty hip and peppy. Anyways, Merry is *such* a great singer and it's hard to find her stuff these days, which is crummy. Violet xoxox * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * Join the Army, meet interesting people, kill them. * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:26:02 +0000 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: jumping on the bandwagon Mike Gray wrote: >You've missed my point. The song wasn't the problem - I love Cornflake Girl >too - but you know *more than one song* when you go to the concert. You >don't go for *one* song. Yeah, gods forbid her career end up like Don McLean. I saw him a couple of times at Ontario Place, and it is so sad to see all these people just continuously yelling for American Pie, then clearing off when it's done. - -- Ken Tough "Jesus died for somebody's sins, but not mine." ken@objectech.co.uk Cornwall, United Kingdom -- Patti Smith ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:46:11 +0200 (EET) From: e112851@ceng.metu.edu.tr (AKTUG IREM) Subject: precious-things ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:05:10 -0500 (EST) From: Traumachik@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori on Bootlegs >She went on to say that she didn't want her fans to spend >money on less than a quality product, but if it was a good >production, it was ok. Well, there's one way Tori can assure her fans will get quality product, and that's to make her own live album. Atlantic has material to make two in the _Unplugged_ session and the concert for RAINN, and releasing these officially might take a bite into the demand for boots of Tori live. - --C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 06:18:23 PST From: "Josh Kostka" Subject: My Vertigo list coming soon /Tori - Death Tshirt??? Hey everybody, Just thought I'd let you know that I'm going to be starting a Vertigo/Neil Gaiman/Sandman mailing list called endless_dreaming at majordomo soon. I'm hoping some of you will join.... I asked before if there was a list like this already, but nobody knew about one so I decided to go along and make my own. I'll let you know when I'm ready to start it. I'm busy with exams right now... Also, I heard from a friend who was in France that there's a shirt with a painting of Death and Tori with their arms around each other on a black shirt? Does anyone know about this? Is it official? Where can I get it? Thanks, josh ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 14:10:07 +0000 From: Ken Tough Subject: Butterflies & Killer B's: (was [Not] Really Important Tori News!!!) Space Dog wrote: >I don't own >any bootlegs. Well, I own many COPIES of bootlegs, but no actual CD's. I >read how Tori really dislikes the whole bootleg thing--not recording >concerts, but selling them for profit which she never recieves--and I'm >very proud to have never contributed to such an atrocity. But do any of >you think I'm being silly or wierd? I also don't own any singles, but I >have the B-Sides and the equivalent to the Talula UK single where Amazing >Grace/'Til the Chicken are not included on the B-Sides compilation. Oh, >yeah, is there anything else not included that I may be missing? But I >really want to own a bootleg, but don't want to upset Tori because I know >I'll be having tea with her one day and happen to mention that I have >bootlegs then she'll throw one of her wierd shoes at me and storm out of >the bistro. I have the same feelings about bootlegs. I do feel that it is a shame, though, that there are such beautiful songs on B-sides of Tori's singles that are only available from collectors now. People have to spend big money if they want to hear the stuff from a legit source, but ironically, that money never goes to the artist. I think people who really appreciate the music should also be able to hear those songs in good quality. I also like the songs, and enjoy being able to listen to them without munging through piles of separate short discs. Problem is that I have a great appreciation for the value of original artistic work, and copying any of it has to have an immoral side. How can that be balanced against the fact that surely Tori wants people to hear those songs, that everyone can't afford or find them, and that a lot of people don't believe in bootlegs? Anyway, what I decided to do was to put some rare B-sides and other favourites, compiled from originals onto a single CD. I have decided on a limited run of the CD (50 copies) which I give away free, in appreciation for charitable deeds or contributions. Anyone who is interested send me some email. Since the run is limited, I may need to draw names or something, if there is a huge response. Butterflies & Killer B's: 1) Butterfly [Higher Learning Soundtrack] 2) Black Swan [Pretty Good Year UK] 3) Song for Eric [Silent All These Years UK Ltd] 4) A Case of You [Cornflake Girl UK Ltd] 5) Thank You [Crucify US] 6) Famous Blue Raincoat [Tower of Song: Leonard Cohen Tribute] 7) Honey [Pretty Good Year UK] 8) Angie [Crucify US] 9) Ode to the Banana King (Part One) [Silent All These Years UK Ltd] 10) Mary [Crucify German] 11) Thoughts [Me and a Gun UK] 12) Daisy Dead Petals [Cornflake Girl US] 13) That's What I Like Mick (The Sandwich Song) 14) London Girls [Caught a Lite Sneeze UK Ltd] 15) Hungarian Wedding Song [Caught a Lite Sneeze UK] 16) If 6 was 9 [Cornflake Girl UK Ltd] 17) Frog On My Toe [Talula UK] 18) Strange Fruit [Cornflake Girl UK Ltd] 19) Here. in my head [Crucify German] 20) Upside Down [Me and a Gun UK] Running time 74 minutes. - -- Ken Tough Cornwall, UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 07:10:33 PST From: "Philip Parr" Subject: Thanks... for posting that article to the Tori list. Very interesting observations. As a fan of both performers, the writer presents a very good perspective on both when making comparrisons. I fear some on the list might get a bit defensive to some of the comments the writer makes (Tori's run out of things to vent passionately about - thus her later material lacks some emotional depth ) but on the plus side, didn't I read an interview somewhere Tori has found somebody new and that the positive things coming out of that experience will show up on her new album? (Sorry for the worlds biggest single-sentence paragraph) Anyway - peace to all even faries (whom I've always thought of as muses) Phil Parr Lansing, Michigan kinkoid@hotmail.com Karma - it's everywhere you're going to be. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 11:03:54 -0500 From: Stephanie Handley Subject: Re: Tori on Bootlegs YES! YES! YES! PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE. Traumachik@aol.com wrote: > >She went on to say that she didn't want her fans to spend >money on > less > than a quality product, but if it was a good >production, it was ok. > Well, there's one way Tori can assure her fans will get quality > product, and > that's to make her own live album. Atlantic has material to make two > in the > _Unplugged_ session and the concert for RAINN, and releasing these > officially > might take a bite into the demand for boots of Tori live. > --C. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 11:35:30 EST From: WeirdyBoi Subject: Re: Merry Clayton Since she's being discussed, i thought i'd add that Merry Clayton appears in the 80s movie "Maid to Order." She plays a singer turned cook (who gets a new record deal at the end of the film, yay). it's not a bad movie... it's been Years since i've seen it, maybe 5 years or more, probably. It's about, (i think) this rich girl whose parents make her get a real job so she becomes a maid for these other rich people and Merry is their cook, yes, and she falls in love with this guy and it's not a bad movie, i guess... doesn't compare to Titanic, though :) Oh... Merry Clayton is also on the Y Kant Tori Read CD...... j'ason http://members.aol.com/WeirdyBoi/Toriphoria.html ~Toriphoria~ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 12:56:16 -0500 From: Stephanie Handley Subject: Re: IGG Bang!Imports is at http://www.cybercom.net/~lennys/ I hope everyone takes advantage of this. If we do, we may end up with an even bigger discount!!! Slainte, Stephanie Geoff Moore wrote: > Go Stephanie! If only I had the will power and initiative that you > have :) > What's that page he was talking about, though? And where is the web > site? > I'll have to take a look! I think I speak for everyone when I say > thank you. > > >Hey guys, > > Well, I took the initiative regarding John Guttman's idea about IGG > > >and getting another company to deal with (and a possible 10% > discount). > >I've been dealing with Lenny at Bang!Imports, whose name I got off > this > >list and he's been great. Here's what he had to say when I forwarded > > >John's letter. > > > >Stephanie > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 16:46:14 -0600 From: "Allan Hudgins" Subject: Re: a match made in Tori >>Ok. I wanted to know if there were any Toriphiles that, like, fell in love >>over the net, or other places. > >GRIN. Yes, I'd like to know, too. Now the little gears in my head are >a'turnin... and I think it would be neat to run a Tori Dating Service of some >sort. Hooking up Toriphiles... now that is a great idea! [snip] Indeed! Might I suggest it be called "Really Excellent Tori Amos Related Dating Service"? ;P Or perhaps "Toriphiles Online Attraction Dating Services"? ;) (sorry, been playing too much Acrophobia apparently ;) Allan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:17:50 +0000 From: Ken Tough Subject: Re: A couple of questions about things I found today... Mike Gray wrote: [I take it you are writing from the UK?] >Has anyone else suddenly seen a lot of UK (or US - didn't check the label) >1-track "God" promotional CD Singles? I noticed no less than *6* today in >less than 30 stalls.=20 Yes, I have noticed a lot. I've seen a lot in vinyl too, though, so I suppose it is more of a case of them suddenly being dumped rather than bootlegged or anything. >Oh, and is a UK limited "Silent All These Years" CD Single (gatefold >w/Happy Phantom Live + 2 other tracks) worth =A320? It is often regarded as the hardest single to find. Personally I think it is worth 20 pounds, but that would depend on the=20 condition. I don't feel it is as much of a gem as Cornflake=20 Girl UK Ltd, but it is nice. You should be able to get it=20 brand new, without too much trouble, for around 30 pounds. - --=20 Ken Tough =20 Cornwall, UK ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:43:52 -0500 From: Space Dog Subject: Stepping down from my ammunition OK, now you must realize that I posted after two sleepless nights and over 7,000 miles travelled, so I HAD to get your attention and I was uncontrollably delerious. It's like a drug trip you can't remember and then you say, "Oh, my gosh, i did THAT?!?" I hope you understand. But I just had to share my ramblings with you so you helped me sort out my ideas. I am sorta a cheepo for not buying the singles, but when I got into Tori she already had lots of stuff out and when I looked at it, it was like, "Too much!!! Take too long to collect all of it!!!" Maybe some of you have had a similar experience. i guess I'm just really comfortable with other Toriphiles because I feel like we're distant relatives. We understand eachother in a small way and Tori is our connection. Look what she's started! But this is not meant to be entirely apology (well, actually, I'm not quite sure I need to apologize, but if so, there), 'cause I wanted to ask generally about the new album. Now I've heard January, but here we are and no promos, so anyone know what gives? Anyone else have any input to this whole bootleg thing? I guess I was alittle brash when I called the practice "atocious" forgetting that I do it too. Oh well...but I don't think you necessarily have to be a fairy or believe in them to have tea with Tori. I don't believe, but then again, I can't see how those tiny faeries can drink from such a large, scalding cup. Or maybe they're REALLY BIG and they need a hose of tea. I've never seen a faery, so I can't tell. Anyone had a supernatural experience involving a faery they'd be interested in sharing? Oh, yeah, the real reason I posted. Now, this has been bothering me a LOT. You know in the official live release of Sugar (and I'm sure many performances) where she's telling the story and says something like, "Now, you guys out there, you're noodle blah blah...and you can't remember how many sugars a girl takes in her tea after nine months..." Now, I can empathize because my dad did the same thing, but the way she generally groups men together like we ALL do this, isn't that a key sign on man-hating??? Now that I think of it, I've never really heard her say anything complementary about men. Do you think she hates men? (someone can say they love someone/thing and really hate it, so don't take interviews for Gospel) Now that I've introduced a potentially controversial topic which could result in the flamb=E9eing of my ass until it's crispy on the outside, soft on the inside (that's really disgusting, huh? Forget I said it...), I give you your moment of Zen. Please keep the flames to a min. Thanx. - --Firestarer, twisted firestarter Joe ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 17:18:44 -0700 From: Dave Woodson Subject: Re: Unique Clones (was Really Important Tori News!!!) >>China Dust wrote: >>>everything else Tori is into, but they didn't seem to be into Everything Tori >>BEFORE they knew about her.> >You make a good point, but how about those of us who just never knew anything >about Neil Gaiman or Alice Walker before learning about them from Tori? I >don't think that by reading a book that she suggests, that would make a person >fit into the category you describe? Just something else to think about.... >- -Sue I don't think there's anything wrong with exploring new and unfamiliar things and concepts because they have a Tori connection. It's like you're saying "Ok, Tori is a cool person, so if she's into this, maybe there's something to it." Everyone has to be introduced to new things in some way, and Tori is as good a way as any. What separates clones from individuals is whether they go beyond the initial Tori influence to form their own opinions. If someone is claiming to be a major Neil Gaiman fan when they've never actually read his stuff, or if they really don't like Alice Walker but they pretend they do because they think a Toriphile *should* like Alice Walker, they start moving into clone territory. If someone goes around saying they believe in Faeries when they really have no idea what they mean by "Faerie" and they don't actually feel any emotional connection to the statement "I believe in Faeries" aside from "Tori does, so to be a Toriphile, so should I." then they really aren't thinking for themselves. If, on the other hand, they decide for *themselves* that these things fit into their individuality, and they're saying "Thanks Tori, I might not have discovered that if it wasn't for you." then they are still individuals. There is nothing wrong with being like Tori, as long as you really *are* like Tori, and it's not a substitute for being like yourself. -Dave ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 16:51:53 -0800 From: rain Subject: interesting perhaps? there is an article in the january 12th 1998 issue of people magazine called "tragic child" which is all about anastasia romanov and her family...i thought you might find this interesting (because of yes, anastasia) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~rain~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * moon....big white moon....white as milk moon....youre all i can see from my window, here in the dark. your light falls silver and white across the walls of my cell. the night-tide surges strong in me. so strong i can feel the grip of their drugs loosen. they fancy themselves high priests. their gods have names like Thorazine and Lithium and Shock Therapy. but their gods are new and weak and cannot hope to contain me much longer. for i am the handiwork of far more powerful, far more ancient dieties. very soon my blood will learn the secret of the inhibiting factors the white-coated shamans pump into my veins. and then things will be very different, my beautiful moon..... my big moon........white as milk moon......red as blood moon..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:59:30 -0800 From: clockwork_lemon@juno.com (Natalie T Ballard) Subject: new album and Great Expectations When does the new album and GE actually come out? I've heard everything from January to May to December 98 for the new album, but nothing about GE. (Is anyone actually planning to see the movie? Myself, I dislike modern renditions of classics. I'm a bit of a literary purist.) Natalie Priests and legislators do not hold shares in my womb or my mind. This is my body. - --Marge Piercy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:53:57 -0800 From: clockwork_lemon@juno.com (Natalie T Ballard) Subject: Re: Stepping down from my ammunition Now that I think of it, I've never really heard her say >anything complementary about men. Do you think she hates men? I'm not going to "Flame your ass" over this at all. While I don't really believe that she hates men, I'm sure that the experience of being raped did nothing to enhance her image of them. Plus, making fun of men is just something we girls do......I'm sure men do the same thing to us!!! Natalie Priests and legislators do not hold shares in my womb or my mind. This is my body. - --Marge Piercy > > ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 98 20:59:28 -0500 From: Hannah Subject: Re: UniqueClones I hope this subject has not been overdiscussed; i just feel that i have something to add. everything previously said on the subject has been wonderful...when i was a freshman in college, one of the first things they tortured us with in my philosophy class was that there is no such thing as a new or original idea. at first we all had trouble with this, but if you look at it, it's true. (the following is my personal opinion, although i won't claim that it's a completely original one!)what we seem to do is we mimic those things that we find pleasure in (such as tori's persona or music or general style) and eventually we alter them, ever so slightly, to conform to what we need them to be. (i don't know if this is coming out quite as i mean it). people who attempt to be a clone are not dispicable, they're simply people who have not gotten to the point where they can decipher what they like and integrate that particular shard of the mirror into their life. i think that we're all made up of tiny shards of those ideas which we have come into contact with; because our brains work in unique ways, we are capable of reinterpreting those ideas which came before us into a somewhat unique and personal credo, if you will. hannah ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 02:56:45 GMT From: Alicia Subject: Re: new album and Great Expectations Natalie wrote: >When does the new album and GE actually come out? I've heard everything >from January to May to December 98 for the new album, but nothing about >GE. (Is anyone actually planning to see the movie? Myself, I dislike >modern renditions of classics. I'm a bit of a literary purist.) Well.. um.. you can call me whatever you want, but, yes, I was planning to go see the movie as soon as it reached my city. And, yes, only because of Tori's contributions in it. It can't be all that bad, although I haven't heard/read anything about it other than what I've seen in the internet. =20 Bye, Alicia "How could I be so immature "so when we died I tried to bribe the undertaker=20 To think that he could replace cause I'm not sure The missing elements in me" what you're doin or the reasons" -Bj=F6rk -Tori =09 "I know the robins bring "I'm a tree that grows hearts (my love) bring me many things but one for each that you take"=20 Sugar -Bj=F6rk He brings me sugar as far as I can tell I've been gone for miles now" -Tori=20 ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 03:01:59 GMT From: Alicia Subject: Tori and =?iso-8859-1?Q?Bj=F6rk?= I was watching Bj=F6rk singing "Human Behaviour" for MTV Europe and her face as she sang reminded me of Tori's. I don't know, maybe it was the way she twisted her mouth to sing these really beautiful notes, the expressions. I had really *never* noticed that, I wouldn't even have dreamt of comparing them, but on that particular performance I could really really see it.=20 Or maybe it's too late and I should just go to sleep and shut uo, but oh= well. Love, Alicia =20 "How could I be so immature "so when we died I tried to bribe the undertaker=20 To think that he could replace cause I'm not sure The missing elements in me" what you're doin or the reasons" -Bj=F6rk -Tori =09 "I know the robins bring "I'm a tree that grows hearts (my love) bring me many things but one for each that you take"=20 Sugar -Bj=F6rk He brings me sugar as far as I can tell I've been gone for miles now" -Tori=20 ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 05 Jan 1998 19:22:11 -0800 From: rain Subject: aha! i posted a message a while ago about rabit in the song "cornflak girl" and how tori explained who she was in an interview, but i couldnt remember which one....well i found an exerpt from this interview (still dont know what interview it is though) on "toriphoria" that says: K: Who's Rabbit in that song? Tori: Rabbit is a Deadhead, who lives in Northern California. Rabbit is a girl. She lives in the forest, and makes beads, and she lives with Fox...I wished I could have been Rabbit! K: Tell me about the "man with the golden gun." Is he a wolf? Tori: No. Never. He is dreams. He was never a contender, nor did he ever want to be. He is someone who you know; he is just someone who... i thought this might interest those of you who sent me emails inquiring about this...... ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~rain~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - -- * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * moon....big white moon....white as milk moon....youre all i can see from my window, here in the dark. your light falls silver and white across the walls of my cell. the night-tide surges strong in me. so strong i can feel the grip of their drugs loosen. they fancy themselves high priests. their gods have names like Thorazine and Lithium and Shock Therapy. but their gods are new and weak and cannot hope to contain me much longer. for i am the handiwork of far more powerful, far more ancient dieties. very soon my blood will learn the secret of the inhibiting factors the white-coated shamans pump into my veins. and then things will be very different, my beautiful moon..... my big moon........white as milk moon......red as blood moon..... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:11:52 EST From: ChinaDust Subject: Re: Stepping down from my ammunition Joe, You know, it's a BEAUTIFUL ACT, what you did. Excuse the corny language, but I thought it was so great of you to take responsibility for that. I'm the ms personal online assault, and I was too harsh on you; I have a bad temper. You're pretty funny, too, I've got to admit. :-) About the Tori Man-Hater thing...she's been hurt by men, and I guess she's just trying to let people see what's wrong, maybe try to correct it. In that Rolling Stone article, she was asked: "do you consider men to be more honest than women?" and she responded with something like (this quote has been horribly warped by me, but I just can't find my issue of RS right now) "not necessarily. you can suss men out pretty quickly and know where you stand with them, whether you like it or not. with women, i don't think it's necessarily conscious, but they tend to have that Harem mentality." I dunno. *shrug* Just me, Eileen ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 20:04:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ashley Blaize Subject: #Tori Sponsoring a GE chat Anyone with IRC should join us in #tori on the UnderNET to chat about the Great Expectations soundtrack tomorrow. We invite you all to join us. Go to the Tea with the Waitress page (http://waitress.home.ml.org) for info on it and you can download IRC from there too! Hope to see you there! BTW, I'm nacho17 on there, so if you see me, msg me and tell me you're from the list! I'd like to meet some people from here! Take care! === From, Ashley Blaize ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Hold on to nothing as fast as you can" - Tori Amos ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Tea With the Waitress - http://waitress.home.ml.org ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ If you know of any great Tori news or any insights, please let me know for my page! E-mail me at: nacho@comsource.net or Boy4pele@hotmail.com or Boy4pele@rocketmail.com Thanks so much! Take care, Live Well and have Fun! _________________________________________________________ DO YOU YAHOO!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 23:18:19 -0500 (EST) From: Jessie L Ksanznak Subject: Re: Stepping down from my ammunition I don't think that Tori hates men as a whole. I for one make fun of men as a whole and call them dumb a lot. It's just making generalizations, it's innocent and we all do it. Guys shouldn't take it personally. Jessie Smile!!!!! :) http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/Stage/8616/ "Love is when two people are together-their hearts smile And when they're apart-a thought will do the same And when they embrace-their hearts just grin." - -Brian Oehlert "Love" ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 23:10:47 EST From: Torifile Subject: Tori Matchmaking online now available!!!!! Guess what? With all of the Talking about *~*Love*~*, i thought that I would make a little site for Match making Toriphiles just got to THIS urk: surf.to/prowidow Love Davey ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 00:31:47 EST From: WeirdyBoi Subject: Re: aha! In a message dated 98-01-05 23:13:26 EST, faerie@mbay.net writes: << i posted a message a while ago about rabit in the song "cornflak girl" and how tori explained who she was in an interview, but i couldnt remember which one....well i found an exerpt from this interview (still dont know what interview it is though) on "toriphoria" that says: K: Who's Rabbit in that song? Tori: Rabbit is a Deadhead, who lives in Northern California. Rabbit is a girl. She lives in the forest, and makes beads, and she lives with Fox...I wished I could have been Rabbit! K: Tell me about the "man with the golden gun." Is he a wolf? Tori: No. Never. He is dreams. He was never a contender, nor did he ever want to be. He is someone who you know; he is just someone who... >> Hi, i run Toriphoria and my sources page isn't up yet, but the source of this quote is a magazine called Aquarian Weekly, from Feb. 2, 1996. j'ason http://members.aol.com/WeirdyBoi/Toriphoria.html Toriphoria ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V3 #6 ***********************************