From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #332 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, November 24 1997 Volume 02 : Number 332 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Images and Insights Book [hope414@houston.email.net] Re: Prom date [Lady Eorann ] Re: Thoughts on Tori [Lady Eorann ] Re: Thoughts on Tori [Shirley ] NY Video definitely now available in the UK. [Mike Gray ] Re: Prom date [Sd1gyhrq7g@aol.com] Re: Thoughts on Tori [Urucyon@aol.com] Re: queries (fwd) [FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU>] Re: Tori & Andrew Eldritch (fwd) [FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU] Re: Tori love [WeirdyBoi@aol.com] Re: queries/couple of questions [WeirdyBoi@aol.com] Re: Thoughts on Tori [Richard Handal ] Re: me and a gun [horse ] Re: Re: queries (fwd) [Traumachik@aol.com] Re: Tori love [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: Re: Thoughts on Tori [Ashley Blaize ] Re: Re: Thoughts on Tori [Ashley Blaize ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 00:10:38 CST From: hope414@houston.email.net Subject: Images and Insights Book Okay, guys... I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that in the Images and Insights book, there are some photos of Tori playing outdoors with some trees behind her. In the first photo, she obviously has clothes on. In the others, she appears to have stripped and is playing in the nude. I'm a girl, and I'm no pervert, but I just thought it was kinda cute, like she was "streaking" at the piano! Is she really naked, or is she wearing a flesh-toned bodysuit? Does anyone know for sure? Any observations or comments?? Hope - -- "And I'll run naked through the street without my mask on." -Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 06:15:26 -0500 (EST) From: Lady Eorann Subject: Re: Prom date On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 Sd1gyhrq7g@aol.com wrote: > she is so beautiful, I can't imagine her being a nerd. She's called herself the "queen of the nerds." (I think this is in the All These Years book--forgive me for not going to check it out right now, I'm feeling rather icky...) > just heard from somebody in England who says he lives near her boyfriend that > Tori is really small, like 5' 2". Anybody else seen her? Okay, I'm not sure of her exact height, but... I met her last year, and she is very petite. I myself am 5'3" and she was just about the same height (I was right in front and talk to her face to face, that's how I know). Hope this helps a bit! :) Bright Blessings and Lollipops! Yvette. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 07:00:06 -0500 (EST) From: Lady Eorann Subject: Re: Thoughts on Tori On Sat, 22 Nov 1997, Shirley Ye wrote: > People say that her music get progressively less accessible with each > album. Admittedly, the tunes are probably less "catchy" on Under the Pink > than let's say Little Earthquakes, and Boys for Pele is judged by many as > an indulgent record. Personally, though, Boys for Pele is probably my > favorite, simply judging by how many hours it's spent in my CD player, and > the music is just so multi-layered. I feel that by listening to her music > for hours on end, I've become so very familiar with her music and her > thoughts, so it's like... everything she composes, though other people not > familiar with Tori might think it unaccessible, is totally accessible to > me. I must say I agree with you wholeheartedly. I never had any trouble "dealing" with BfP, although I know lots of Tori fans who did. I think that Tori has changed quite a bit over the years. I think that at first she was maybe more... "shy" (best word I can come up with right now), and trying to please more. Now, I think, she's gotten to the point when she realizes that it's not about record companies and selling albums or getting airplay, it's about doing what is right for *her* and knowing that the true fans will understand. (Of course, that's just my opinion). "We all get intimidated by showing ourselves, for whatever reason, we think, If I really show who I am, and someone goes [pfftt] then it's gonna crush me. Well, it's not gonna crush me. It doesn't crush you if somebody does that- somebody will do that. Many times. And once you accept that that's not why you're doing it, you're doing it because that's your form of expression." --from the LE video I think she said this then, but over time she's really come to believe and live it... > I guess the gist of it is that in order to know anything really well is to > become very involved in it - obsessed, in other words. It applies to a lot > of other things besides listening to Tori's music, of course. And, this is > just how I perceive things. > I don't think you're alone in thinking this way, Shirley. Actually, that's my opinion as well. I mentioned on here that I was introducing my mom to Tori (quite successfully--yay!), and my way of getting her to understand is to get her to listen to her music obsessively, and almost methodically. I think to understand Tori you need to watch as she grows as an artist, through each of the three albums. Although lots of people have proven me wrong, of course! :) Some people were able to start at the end (BfP) and work backwards. But somehow I feel these people are more rare. In a way, "growing in Tori" (as I like to call it) prepares you for whatever she might turn out in the future. It's like going up steps, you know? Yes, you can skip steps one and two and jump up to step three, but it gets more difficult over time. I don't think she's becoming "inaccessible" but instead she's growing, expanding... And so are we. And I think this is a great thing. However, it can seem almost "cliquish" to people on the "outside", and these people, who will ten to one be turned off by her newer music, may have a change of heart if you put them at the bottom of the stairs and show them the way up (starting with LE then UtP and so forth...). This has worked for me several times (and I myself did this as well--only I was lucky enough to catch her at the beginning and just ride a long with her!). I have successfully "converted" [horrible term, yes, but I haven't slept, so please don't be too rough with me!:) ] several people in this manner, so at this point, I swear by it! :) At any rate, I thank my lucky stars for Tori and her music. I don't care if I am the only one to buy a copy of her next album [although somehow I get the feeling I won't be! ;) ] I am a EWF, through and through, and I didn't need some slicked-up promotion to convince me. All I needed was that girl and her piano... :) The best promotion I've ever seen: put out *great* music! Who'd have thunk it? :P Night-night all! Bright Blessings and Lollipops! Yvette. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 04:53:36 -0800 From: Shirley Subject: Re: Thoughts on Tori At 07:00 AM 11/23/97 -0500, Lady Eorann wrote: she's gotten to the point when she >realizes that it's not about record companies and selling albums or >getting airplay, it's about doing what is right for *her* and knowing that >the true fans will understand. (Of course, that's just my opinion). Oh, I totally agree! I think Tori is at a stage where she is composing her music for herself, not to please the Top 40 charts, or what not. And, certainly, much of her recent music may be less "catchy" (for want of a better word), but it is now more introspective and introverted. I'm not saying that Tori's a recluse or that she was not as introspective before, I just think that she is maturing and more sure of herself, and it is showing in her music. And, not to say she doesn't have that ability to make her music more "catchy", it's just that now she is more aware of herself as an artist and doesn't feel it is necessary because of external pressures or what not. I think to understand Tori you need to watch as she grows >as an artist, through each of the three albums. Although lots of people >have proven me wrong, of course! :) Some people were able to start at the >end (BfP) and work backwards. But somehow I feel these people are more >rare. I started with Boys for Pele, sortof. You can read about how I got into Tori at: http://www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Studio/3305/toristory.html In a way, "growing in Tori" (as I like to call it) prepares you for >whatever she might turn out in the future. It's like going up steps, you >know? Yes, you can skip steps one and two and jump up to step three, but >it gets more difficult over time. I don't think she's becoming >"inaccessible" but instead she's growing, expanding... And so are we. >And I think this is a great thing. However, it can seem almost "cliquish" I think you hit a really good point, here. :) Whenever I hear somebody else's CD Player w/ Tori in it, I get excessively excited and will approach the person... I mean, I guess I feel a bond with other Tori fans, because since I've been so inspired and moved by her music, I feel others must be too. Because, in a lot of ways, Tori's music has helped me grow tremendously in terms of being aware of myself and my surroundings. Her music has helped me be more receptive to a lot of new perspectives that I otherwise would not have been as receptive to. Seriously, I can have go on entire hour-long monologues with my friends those who will tolerate it anyway :P) how wonderful, multi layered, intelligent, skilled, and beautiful Tori's music is. >to people on the "outside", and these people, who will ten to one be >turned off by her newer music, may have a change of heart if you put them >at the bottom of the stairs and show them the way up (starting with LE >then UtP and so forth...). This has worked for me several times (and I >myself did this as well--only I was lucky enough to catch her at the >beginning and just ride a long with her!). I have successfully >"converted" [horrible term, yes, but I haven't slept, so please don't be >too rough with me!:) ] several people in this manner, so at this point, I >swear by it! :) Oooh, I wish I had good experiences like yours! I tried to get an ex-boyfriend (hence, the ex :P) to like Tori... unfortunately, to no real good avail. He ended up walking out of the room every time I put in one of her CDs. I didn't break up with him because he didn't like Tori - I could deal with that. But what I couldn't deal with was the total lack of respect he showed for my interests - and believe me, it wasn't just Tori. > >At any rate, I thank my lucky stars for Tori and her music. I don't care >if I am the only one to buy a copy of her next album [although somehow I >get the feeling I won't be! ;) ] I am a EWF, through and through, and I >didn't need some slicked-up promotion to convince me. All I needed was >that girl and her piano... :) The best promotion I've ever seen: put out >*great* music! Who'd have thunk it? :P > Oh, same here! I'm not as "bad" as I was about a year ago, but I used to think that I would never ever listen to any other music but Tori music. I thought that all music besides Tori music was bunk! Ironically, Tori's music is what got me into appreciating music in general... before, I never appreciated the potential depth and beauty of music. Now, I'm not as "obsessive" about Tori's music (though there are still weeks when my CD player goes on Tori-thons), and I have a lot more appreciation for other artists' music as well. Toodles, Shirl ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 13:54:25 +0000 From: Mike Gray Subject: NY Video definitely now available in the UK. Hi All, I picked up my copy of the new video yesterday from HMV. Apparently it came out about two weeks ago, and I just haven't seen it! :O Has anyone else noticed that the video spells "Muhammed My Friend" as "Huhammad My Friend"? You'd have thought *someone* might have watched it and checked the damned song titles... Mike - I'd just like to apologise to everyone who I've been rude, off-hand, bitchy, sullen, sarcastic or unfriendly to over the past few days. There are reasons, and I'll try and ensure that normal service is resumed as of now. Sorry. Oh, and whatever you do, don't see the film "Excess Baggage", it's dreadful. Mike ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:20:04 -0500 (EST) From: Traumachik@aol.com Subject: Angels & Visitations >Dioes anyone out there have the Neil book of short stories >"Angels and Visitations"? Is it good? Please tell me... One of the problems I've had with Neil's stuff is that, although he writes amazing characters, he can't write endings to save his life. So you get lots of amazing stories filled with wonderful folks, and the literary equivalent of the fade ending. :) You might like it, though. - --C. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 11:14:57 -0500 (EST) From: JEDAS1@aol.com Subject: Re: Images and Insights Book >>kay, guys... I was wondering if anyone else has noticed that in the Images and Insights book, there are some photos of Tori playing outdoors with some trees behind her. In the first photo, she obviously has clothes on. In the others, she appears to have stripped and is playing in the nude. I'm << Hey, you're right!! - look at the last frame: you can see her breast and the nipple. that's not flesh-toned body suit!! julie ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 10:54:05 -0600 From: jjacobsen@huntingdon.edu (Jennifer Jacobsen) Subject: Re: Prom date Lady Eorann wrote: > On Sat, 22 Nov 1997 Sd1gyhrq7g@aol.com wrote: > > > she is so beautiful, I can't imagine her being a nerd. > > She's called herself the "queen of the nerds." (I think this is in the > All These Years book--forgive me for not going to check it out right now, > I'm feeling rather icky...) It was in some magazine...to the best of my memory I think it was Q magasine. > > > > just heard from somebody in England who says he lives near her boyfriend that > > Tori is really small, like 5' 2". Anybody else seen her? She is very tiny > > > Okay, I'm not sure of her exact height, but... I met her last year, and > she is very petite. I myself am 5'3" and she was just about the same > height (I was right in front and talk to her face to face, that's how I > know). Hope this helps a bit! :) > > Bright Blessings and Lollipops! > > Yvette. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "Definitions are limiting. Limitations are deadening. > To limit oneself is a kind of suicide. To limit > another is a kind of murder. To limit poetry is a > Hiroshima of the human spirit." --Tom Robbins > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ - -- “I LIKE CATS...because they taste like chicken!” --unknown ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 12:24:01 -0600 (CST) From: Michael Curry Subject: ADMIN: How to unsubscribe Hi all, Just *another* reminder for those who are having problems with this. How to unsubscribe from precious-things: Address your email to majordomo@smoe.org, with no subject and a body of: unsubscribe precious-things (for the loose version) OR unsubscribe precious-things-digest (for the digest version) Mike | Michael Curry / mcurry@io.com / mcurry@compuserve.com | | http://www.io.com/~mcurry | | Am I bitter? Do I sound bitter? -- Veda Hille | ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 15:00:03 -0500 (EST) From: Sd1gyhrq7g@aol.com Subject: Re: Prom date So Tori is a petite beauty. wow- i guess i always assumed she was tall because her music is so large and powerful. Thanks guys :-) ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 14:46:59 -0500 (EST) From: Urucyon@aol.com Subject: Re: Thoughts on Tori hi everbody :-) i totally agree with Yvette. i bought UtP, then BfP, and LE last. i think there is clearly a progression in her music from album to album. listening to BfP (my favorite and i must say- a complete masterpiece) before LE, i felt like Tori was being cautious with her musical expression when she made LE. even so, LE still demonstrates her brilliance wonderfully. her music tends to overwelm and 'turn off' a lot of people i've encountered, who for whatever reason don't appretiate its complexity. kind of like classical music. is Tori on the level of Mozart? - boldly, i think so. the only music i am able to listen to any more is Tori and classical (i used to be a total heavy metal-head, forgive me) later folks, Bryan ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:54:44 +0930 From: FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: queries (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:30:16 +0930 From: FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> To: Brian the Lion Cc: precious-things@smoe.org Subject: Re: queries I doubt that she'll be working with Eldritch in the near future. Andrew's busy touring / writing / recording the next Sisters of Mercy album now that he's been finally released from his contract with East / West Given Andrew's relationship with said record label, ie he hates them, it may also be possibel that East / West wouldn't let him work with Tori (She is still signed with them isn't she). Still we can only hope, it would be really cool if them two of them could get together. Michael Francis ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 1997 08:54:02 +0930 From: FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> Subject: Re: Tori & Andrew Eldritch (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Thu, 20 Nov 1997 11:09:58 +0930 From: FLOOD <9606523y@MAGPIE.MAGILL.UNISA.EDU.AU> To: Tori Amos List Precious Things Subject: Re: Tori & Andrew Eldritch (fwd) - ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Wed, 19 Nov 1997 11:24:15 +0930 > He was going to produce something of Tori's, as she > wanted something with distorted piano and she reckoned AE was the man when > it came to distortion. But it never came to be. > > Paul > Yeah that's what I heard, about the production and all. Apparently Andrew commented that he didn't think that distortion would work with a piano, but he would give it a shot anyway. It was supposed to appear on Utp, but as I said previously, by the time Andrew had the time to spare and the clearance from his record company, UtP had already been recorded, mixed and released. Michael Francis > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > "Inside his head, he's dead, he said 'I never was alive'" > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > > The World Of Grendel : http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du > The World of Tori : http://toristuff.home.ml.org > -+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+- > "The elite is by definition a minority" > > ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:15:44 -0500 (EST) From: WeirdyBoi@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori love Nadyne, you're insane and highly offensive to me. why not post to an entire mailing list? what's to be hidden? we shouldn't hide things. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:30:14 -0500 (EST) From: WeirdyBoi@aol.com Subject: Re: queries/couple of questions In a message dated 97-11-21 10:17:13 EST, violet@slip.net writes: << She was recording in the Carribean, there will be a tour once the album is out (in the first half of 1998), and she will definitely play dates in the UK. >> She wrote some stuff in the tropics, and Recorded in Cornwall, England. - -j'ason ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 18:30:47 -0500 (EST) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Thoughts on Tori Shirl said: > Ironically, Tori's music is what got me into appreciating music in > general... before, I never appreciated the potential depth and beauty of > music. I can easily understand that, and I think it works both ways as well. I think a familiarity with many different types of music allows for a deeper appreciation of what she's doing on purely a musical level with her composition and playing. She is clearly more deeply influenced by a larger number of musicians and composers, and by a wider variety of music than any other musician I could name. It's really quite astonishing, and has also led me to musical places I never visited before. (Although I still don't "get" some of Tori's major musical influences.) But it stands to reason that the more music with which one is familiar, that one will have more points of reference within Tori's music to which one can relate. With what she's doing being as complex as it is, all those bits of familiarity within her music make it easier for folks to relate to it more directly, and not hear it as being quite so out of left field. I could go on a lot more about this, but I'll wait for another time. :-) Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 17:58:08 -0800 (PST) From: horse Subject: Re: me and a gun To all, I just wanted to make a few final comments on the issue of whether or not Tori is "lying" about rape. First of all, we must consider ourselves privileged to know what we know about her. We are not all personal friends of Tori, so therefore, have no business knowing every detail about the woman's life. Second of all, it's positively disgusting to hear from a good portion of all you that tori's rape wasn't a real "rape". That remark reminds me, in a painful way, who is calling the shots in the U.S., and arguably, the world: men. It's attitudes of such that make it diffucult for many of our sisters to make rape a serious issue in the media, and the courts. We need to challenge these attitudes, and question the origin of them. Also, we must not be quick to victimize or condemn the victims of unequal power-struggles. Tori's human rights were violated, and she has eloquently made that clear. Come on EWF's, let's think critical about these issues, and our attitudes. dominick # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # and if I'm wasting all your time, this time maybe you never learned to take and if I'm hanging on to your shade I guess I'm way beyond the pale :::::::::::: -Tori Amos # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # # ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 21:11:42 -0500 (EST) From: Traumachik@aol.com Subject: Re: Re: queries (fwd) >Andrew's relationship with said record label, ie he hates >them, it may also be possibel that East / West wouldn't let >him work with Tori (She is still signed with them isn't she). What would be nice is if Atlantic reversed the recent trend and made a Tori/Andrew bee side only availible in America. - --C. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 22:03:04 -0500 (EST) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Tori love On Sun, 23 Nov 1997 WeirdyBoi@aol.com wrote: > Nadyne, you're insane and highly offensive to me. > why not post to an entire mailing list? what's to be hidden? we shouldn't > hide things. What -are- you talking about? /nad {confuzzled} *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:45:24 -0800 (PST) From: Ashley Blaize Subject: Re: Re: Thoughts on Tori Okay, so I agree kind of with everyone's view on the progression and all, but I haev different views. You see, I first heard LE and I thought that she was just an easy listening artist. It wasn't until God that I though other wise. This has to do with the diversity of intrumental overlays (if that makes sense, I mean, I AM senile........) You see, I think that Precious Things was THE most diverse song on LE and it isn't even all that diverse. The first album that I BOUGHT was UtP. I love it! It is by far my favorite album. Boys for Pele is great don't get me wrong! But, it seems VERY experimental. I may sound critical here, I don't know. But I had to put in my piece. Seeing as how BfP was more expreimental to me, I think that what make UtP so great is that it's such a mix. I love Tori and everything that she sings. And after this weekend, my new fave song is China. Long Story! But that's my thought and if anyone finds it crappy, sorry! :) === "Hold on to nothing as fast as you can" - Tori Amos Tea With the Waitress - http://www.comsource.net/~nacho/Tori_Amos/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "why is it that birds fly high in the sky, proud of their ability, yet they rest in the branches of the depressing weeping willow?" - Mackenzie Arnold __________________________________________________________________ Sent by Yahoo! Mail. Get your free e-mail at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 1997 20:45:33 -0800 (PST) From: Ashley Blaize Subject: Re: Re: Thoughts on Tori Okay, so I agree kind of with everyone's view on the progression and all, but I haev different views. You see, I first heard LE and I thought that she was just an easy listening artist. It wasn't until God that I though other wise. This has to do with the diversity of intrumental overlays (if that makes sense, I mean, I AM senile........) You see, I think that Precious Things was THE most diverse song on LE and it isn't even all that diverse. The first album that I BOUGHT was UtP. I love it! It is by far my favorite album. Boys for Pele is great don't get me wrong! But, it seems VERY experimental. I may sound critical here, I don't know. But I had to put in my piece. Seeing as how BfP was more expreimental to me, I think that what make UtP so great is that it's such a mix. I love Tori and everything that she sings. And after this weekend, my new fave song is China. Long Story! But that's my thought and if anyone finds it crappy, sorry! :) Mr. Ashley === "Hold on to nothing as fast as you can" - Tori Amos Tea With the Waitress - http://www.comsource.net/~nacho/Tori_Amos/ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "why is it that birds fly high in the sky, proud of their ability, yet they rest in the branches of the depressing weeping willow?" - Mackenzie Arnold __________________________________________________________________ Sent by Yahoo! Mail. Get your free e-mail at http://mail.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #332 *************************************