From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #253 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Thursday, September 11 1997 Volume 02 : Number 253 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: confused toriphile ["Ray Bailey" ] Re: So, What's She like? ["Ray Bailey" ] So, What's She like? ["cream pudding" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:22:21 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: confused toriphile >I am a very very confused Toriphile. Everytime that I get on the web, I am >bombarded with little quotes from fellow Toriphiles, like: > >OH MY GOD YOUR A GUY TORI FREAK!!!!! WEIRD!!!!! > >or > >Only girls are supposed to like tori amos so get a life. > >What I think is that they are more confused than I am really. I know that >some tori songs might be a little mean towards guys, and yet I still enjot >it. I think the REAL Toriphiles should speak outmore of their love of TORI!!!!! Hah, that's a bunch of crap! I'M a guy, and I openly, willingly, and admittingly will say that she is my favorite artist forever and ever amen. For one thing, I don't think any of Tori's songs are against the entire male population... I think they are more targeted at specific groups of men, particularly those she has had bad experiences with. I don't care if people criticize me for being a guy TOri fan, but I have found that some Toriphiles think that it's neat... go figure! *grin* - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 20:35:45 PDT From: "Ray Bailey" Subject: Re: So, What's She like? >Everyone in the room was sort of sitting on a platform where the piano >was and anxiously awaiting Tori's arrival. When she came in--i can't >explain it, it was breath taking. she went up to each person and met >them personally, asking if they had gone to see her yet (she had had 2 >other shows at the Greek that weekend). She was so genuine, like the >person that she was talking to at the time was the only one that >mattered in the world even though there was a whole room waiting to >speak to her. When she got to me, she shook my hand and looked into my >eyes, and i felt like i was going to faint. i got tears in my eyes and >could barely speak, but managed to tell her that she was the first >concert i had ever gone to, and she was really surprised by this. She >smiled one of her beautiful smiles, and really listened, you know, not >just heard, but listened. She even remembered my name later when i >asked her to sign a picture for me. it was just amazing how genuine and >kind she is. she then played some songs on the piano, and this had to >be the most surreal part of it, because there was Tori and there i was >and i could SEE her fingers moving so gracefully on the keys and the way >she moved and it was just surreal... > one of the main things that stands out in my mind most about that day, >though, was when Tori was speaking to another Toriphile who began crying >when she was talking to Tori and kept saying how Tori's music had truly >helped her get through so many difficult times in her life and how >grateful she was to her. and you know, Tori began to cry with this >woman too and had to wipe tears away from her own face. most people in >the room began to get teary too. i share this with you all because i >think that woman's words rings so true for so many of us all, and it >seems Tori understands this and feels this all too well... > i apologize again for the length of this, but just wanted to share it >with all of you, because it's an experience that i hold so close to my >heart and will never forget :) > take care, debbie Thank you so very much for sharing this experience... You do a very good job in conveying emotions with your words. I'm sitting here snivelling like a baby. That is my dream, what you just wrote up there. More than anything... that is what I want. When I meet Tori, I can die. Well, I don't WANT to, but I would feel fulfilled in one sense. This just really touches me. Geez... I don't even know what to say. - -Ray (aka Cochese) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Because I CANTNOT win without losing my dear." -Alanis Morissette "Years go by, will I still be waiting for somebody else to understand?" -Tori Amos ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Sep 1997 23:06:12 CST From: "cream pudding" Subject: So, What's She like? debbie and the List- No need to aplogize to ANYONE. That is what Tori is about, that is what she does, that is why so many people reach out to her. She is the nineties version of Gandhi or Mother Theresa-In my very humble opinion. And EVERYBODY needs someone to relate, someone to care. Most of my friends do not relate to tori-but I can accept that because they find their peace in other things. I do not rely on tori for all things, for that would be unhealthy, but I do feel I need her music to support me through things I cannot endure alone. Like death and love and birth and car crashes and bombings and opression and suicides and the physical and mental rape of the world. People find this solace in religion, but I have found religion to be faulty. I wish I had the ability to believe so blindly in something, but I was not blessed with a simple mind and I choose to question. I do not question tori. She is real and functional and lives and breathes and gets dumped on and recovers and writes beautiful things that she chooses to share with the world, which is brave as hell. that's all I have to say about that. i love you all. focus on love, and it'll be cool. I promise. Kerriloo^ "They say Confucious does his crossword with a pen . . ." -Tori Amos- ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #253 *************************************