From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #211 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Tuesday, August 5 1997 Volume 02 : Number 211 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: My Tori Site [Richard Holmes ] Upcoming Neil Gaiman ["Philip Parr" ] Re: tori w/ a band?? [Richard Handal ] Re: Live Album/WAV files [AstroKitty@aol.com] Re: Thelma & Louise [Traumachik@aol.com] Lost In Reality [Reality622@aol.com] Tori On Much Music [Allyson Widdis ] Re: Steve Caton [Jennifer Gerbi ] Re: Tori On Much Music [Jackman962@aol.com] Re: My Tori Site [adrienne frances ] Re: Tori On Much Music [bluegirl ] Re: Steve Caton [Jennifer Gerbi ] Re: Steve Caton [Jennifer Gerbi ] re: Steve's habit [Jennifer Gerbi ] Re: Steve Caton [Nadyne Mielke ] I get MUCH MUSIC [me ] Re: tori w/ a band?? [AnaisBleu@aol.com] Fwd: tori w/ a band?? [AnaisBleu@aol.com] not the red baron [aliceur@ibm.net] Tori Singles ["Gucci Little Piggy" ] a burning issue [hope414@houston.email.net] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 3 Aug 1997 22:36:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Richard Holmes Subject: Re: My Tori Site Douglas Hitzel has the following TORI quote in his signature: > "I always thought I'd make a good girlfriend for Jesus." > -Tori Amos I'm curious what Tori thinks about Jesus? Any interviews, etc? When I hear this quote I just can't help thinking about the book, "the moon under her feet" by Kintsler, which is a retelling of the Jesus story (historically plausible) which has the Magdelene (or priestess) named Mary as his "girlfriend" of sorts - and their good friend to the end named Judas (seth) - which in some ways is a retelling of the Isis/Osiris myth. Recommended for all fans of mythology or goddess historical fantasy. - -Richard. @ \@/ Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) @ | @ \|/ "Muhammad my friend / its time to tell the world / @ | we both know it was a girl back in Bethlehem / @ , , | , , and on that fateful day / when she was crucified / @ ' ' ' ' ' she wore Shiseido Red and we drank tea / by her side." @ - Tori Amos, "Muhammad My Friend" @ @ Kiva / Kate Price \ Dar Williams / Renaissance \ Sheila Chandra / Laura Love @ Susan McKeown \ Sarah McLachlan / Libana \ Danielle Dax \ Dog Faced Hermans @ Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush \ Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes @ Ingrid Karklins \ Sinead O'Connor / Jane Siberry / Pauline Oliveros ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 03 Aug 1997 23:23:10 PDT From: "Philip Parr" Subject: Upcoming Neil Gaiman Hello, Neil has a new comic series coming out. Issue #1 (of 4) will ship to comic book stores on October 8th. The title is "Neil Gaiman and Charles Vess' Stardust" and the book will ship every 6 weeks. While it is in a comic book format, the text appears to be written in a prose style with Mr. Vess providing the illustrations. The story: A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single falling star. Telling a tale of a young man with magically mixed parentage and the quest he undertakes at a lover's bidding, the first issue begins with his origin - a liaison between a young mortal and a fairy girl in the 1720's, when humans mingled freely each decade with the world of Faerie at a village festival. If you are interested and don't want to miss this (I'd expect sell outs - - this is Neil's first "regular comic" work since Sandman), call your local comic shop to reserve copies today. Price per each 48 page issue is $5.95. Tell the store owner it is in the current issue of Previews (the retailer's catalogue). Deadline for pre-orders through a comic store is August 16th. After that, you're on your own. Phil Parr Lansing, Michigan kinkoid@hotmail.com Argue for your limitations and sure enough, they're yours. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 02:52:40 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: tori w/ a band?? woj quoted me-- > >Maybe the radio will love her next album so much that she won't *have* > >to support it so much through live shows, and she would be able to not > >have to play before as many people. It could happen. and then said: > maybe, but i question how much playing out really supported her album > sales this last time around. I almost gave a little more context to my post about this, but it was plenty long already. What I was referring to was the way Tori and her people seem to feel about this, not anyone else's opinion. Tori told a mutual musician friend of mine backstage in early September of last year that the reason she had to do so many shows on the tour was because she was getting so little support on the radio. So as not to invade her privacy beyond that, I will quote something she said publicly about this which bolsters that as being her way of looking at this. Here's a transcript of what Tori said at that final DDI tour show in Boulder, Colorado, on November 11, 1996. It was her introduction to playing Marianne, but it was mainly her summing up the Pele experience for her, including her feelings on the issue of lack of radio support: [Over soft, occasional chording.] "Um, when I started recording this record, it was, uh, very interesting because, um, none of these record guys wanted to let a woman produce her own record; and they were very, very nervous about letting me do this. And, uh, they were *much* more nervous when they heard it. Heh. "But, um, what sort of happened was I turned in the record, and, um, I've never really had such a moment in my life--I mean, things were kind of better when I pooped in my pants. And, uh, I walked in and, um; you know, I'd sold millions of records for this company; and I walked in--I'd had some pizza, and a nice glass of wine and I was like, 'Well, I'll meet the new girls;' and I know it's a little dark, but you know, everybody needs a good bottle of wine and some depressing songs every once in a while. And so I walked in, and this is what I...met. [Tori, stone-faced, sits with her arms folded across her chest for twelve seconds; audience breaks into laughter.] "So, basically, what I said was--after this record went platinum--I said, 'Well, we didn't do it, because of anything you all did.' And, then, so I'm just saying that it was because of, um, *you* guys. [Motioning with her shoulder toward the audience.] Record companies, radio, had absolutely fuck-all to do with any of this whole year. And that's the truth. "But the one thing is, you guys did; and this is one song that demanded to come tonight, because, although she's not on this planet anymore, she was, um, probably the main song that gave me strength to withstand, when everybody said that I'd made a piece of shit." I suggest anyone who hasn't heard this and has the technology to listen to WAV files go over to Michael Whitehead's amazing website at check out the high quality WAV file he has of this. A Dent In The Tori Amos Net Universe http://www.aye.net/~mikewhy/toriamos.html It's much more expressive to hear Tori say this than to read a transcript. Anyhow, that was what I meant. That it was Tori's belief that she needed to tour to support Pele since they didn't play cuts off the album very often on the radio. > with _little earthquakes_ and perhaps even _under the pink_, sure. but > last year? she received favorable airplay on both mainstream and "modern > rock" radio and had more on-air appearances than nearly any other artist > i can think of. Boy, I am definitely under the impression that--here in the U.S. anyway-- Sneeze got a certain amount of airplay on the radio, but that no one played much of anything else off of it. I'm not sure what the real statistics on this were. Perhaps one could go back to old issues of Radio and Records and figure this out relative to what happened in the LE and UtP eras. She certainly is able to get interviewed on the radio and maybe play a few tunes in the studio nearly at will these days, but I can't think that to be as likely to inspire someone who isn't already planning to go out and buy her latest album, to take the plunge and plop down the bucks as hearing a song off of it about fifty times over a span of a couple or so weeks is likely to. > more importantly, how much of a factor is album sales or radio airplay or > other measures of commercial success when it comes to playing live *for > tori*? my understanding is that she does it because she loves it. She does, up to a point, but I know it wore more than a little thin for her at that pace last year, let alone over the course of 187 shows. > >If she tours with a band next time I can't say how interested I might be > >in that. > > i've been a long-time proponent of the tour-with-a-band platform > (needless to say, this is a thread that has permeated tori amos > discussion fora since the earliest days of really-deep-thoughts!) and > think that it would be fascinating to see tori play with other > musicians. I have to say that, in the main, I agree with the concept of this. What concerns me is the execution of it. Caton's a given--he's clearly demonstrated the ability to follow along with wherever her whims of tempo and musical excursion take her, and to engage in musical dialog with her. But even he took approaching 35 or so shows before achieving the level of musical conversation that came to be typical in Voodoo by somewhere in the middle of May. And he's been playing her music for a very long time. I saw the Meters live earlier this year, and George Porter, Jr. is definitely the musical glue that holds that band together. He engaged in more musical give and take with the other members much more than any of the rest of them did. Frankly, they seemed not to be in a mood to risk straining themselves at *all* that night. But George was wandering around the stage and visibly interacting with the other band members the whole time, all the while displaying a huge grin. He's shown himself to be not only worthy accompaniment for her in the studio, but on the b-sides from Pele when she was clearly extemporizing, he was right there with her. I have to consider the bass player the number one anchor of any possible live band with her on a tour. Can George find the time to go on tour with her? Who else can they get to fill out the band? Are they gonna hold open auditions, or otherwise end up with players who aren't as familiar with her music and George and Caton are? She only had ten days of rehearsals for the DDI tour. Are they really gonna have enough time for much more rehearsal than that next time if she has a band? They're going to need it. What mainly concerns me is the fiasco of the type we saw on Letterman in 1992 when she played Crucify with Paul and the boys. They'd had about 40 minutes of rehearsal, and she insisted--rightly, I thought--on keeping in all sorts of tempo changes and ritards, and that was simply not enough time for them to be able to really get what she was after. All those guys are "A" level studio musicians--just Will Lee himself has been on over 600 records--but she ended up looking like she was riding a bucking bronco and trying desperately not to fall off. She needs a band that's used to really *listening* to the other members of the band and playing off them. As much as I love and respect her, I am extremely skeptical as to the likelihood of her having the time and the resources to pull off such a musical marriage between all the members of a thrown-together band before going out with them on tour. > i *really* enjoyed the fuller sound that caton brought to last year's > shows and thought that the interaction between he and tori was really > neat. I did too, and I think most people who saw shows last tour felt the same way. I only worry that the ability to have one person who's been playing with her for more than ten years be that wonderful with her in a live setting, might not so readily be replicable with a number of other members tacked on in addition. And remember before the DDI tour when she said other musicians would be popping in from time to time during different parts of the tour? Where were they? Caton was there the entire time, and no one else showed up. You know, I'd *love* to see her learn to arrange for larger ensembles and be able for that to translate to the live shows. That's one thing I was hoping for when I heard she was doing some vocal work on the Great Expectations soundtrack beyond her one personal composition. I want her to be exposed to more large ensemble arranging, and to incorporate horns, even. To that end, I gave her a live CD of one of my favorite jazz arrangers, Carla Bley, the day of the Concert for RAINN. (The one, in fact, titled, "Live!") I got a CD of Beethoven's Waldstein Sonata and his Bagatelles opus #126 played on fortepiano by Seth Carlin to Tori during the UtP tour, thinking it might influence her to check into some earlier keyboard instruments. I never had the balls to ask her if my having given her that had anything to do with the harpsichord, clavichord, and harmonium on Pele and the DDI tour. But if Tori shows up on the next tour with tuba and glockenspiel in her musical arsenal, I'm afraid I'll have to take the blame. :-D Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 04:14:19 -0400 (EDT) From: AstroKitty@aol.com Subject: Re: Live Album/WAV files << HIDDEN TRACK: Tori mocking SATY (I heard this on a .WAV from a website) HIDDEN TRACK: Tori messing up with Crucify (same case as the mocking SATY one) >> Yeah, actually that's my site that you can find those wavs on... Violent & Delicious: Tori Amos http://members.aol.com/AstroKitty/Tori.htm ps- if I haven't gotten back to any of you guys about links on my page or wav files you wanna add or whatever, sorry... I've been soooooo preoccupied with something that happened to me last week (tragic)... hopefully i'll be able to get my feet back on the ground pretty soon... ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 07:44:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Traumachik@aol.com Subject: Re: Thelma & Louise >Better yet, who out there read _Possessing the Secret Of >Joy_ because Tori read it? I have you all beat...I heard about the book through Tori, and ended up writing my senior English paper about the book, using quotes from Tori. Do I get the gold star or what? peace, love and gumtex, Chelsea ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 08:25:48 -0400 (EDT) From: Reality622@aol.com Subject: Lost In Reality I apologize for this unrelated Tori post, but my name is Mike from the CT band "Lost In Reality." Anyway, it's a 2-person band (me and a female singer/guitar player) and our sound has been compared to Fiona Apple's and Tori Amos. We are currently touring and promoting our CD and I wanted people that listen to this kind of music to be aware of us. If you're interested in buying a cassette drop me a line. You can check out our site at: www.catalog.com/reality As for Tori related stuff, I NEED MORE BOOTS. Does anyone have ANY of the CT shows she did for the DDI Tour? MIKE ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 97 10:45:29 EDT From: Allyson Widdis Subject: Tori On Much Music Attention Canadian Tori fans: Tori will be in the Much Music Spotlight on Fri. August 15th at 7:30 pm (repeat at 11:30pm). For all those who missed the spotlight last time around, like me, it should be great since MM doesn't seem to play Tori videos much. - --Allyson-- ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:35:43 -0500 (CDT) From: Jennifer Gerbi Subject: Re: Steve Caton > Erin, that's a great point about the special effects. IIRC, fog machines > and things like that are way more harmful to a singer than one person > smoking from a few feet away. I've been onstage with fog machines and they > are a pain in the ass. I don't think we need to worry about Caton's > secondhand smoke. I mean, come on, Tori is a person just like you and me. > If someone offends her by smoking around her, she can move or ask the > person to stop, just like anyone else. Tori didn't use fog machines, in the shows where I saw her. and there are different types... the ones they use in the clubs are the worst. Arg. But all arguing aside, as to weather tori would feel comfortable telling caton to quit it, as an AUDIENCE member, it bothers ME, not just being able to smell it in a small venue, but just the stage appearance, his apparent lack of respect for the show. THAT is what bothers me the most, and as how she is never sitting with us watching herself play, she doesn't know what it LOOKS like. I retain my original position, which is that he is being a big jerkyface by rudely, crudely, and annoying lighting up on stage. Sheesh, tori has to give up all dairy during the whole tour... he could give up smoking for the 2 hours duration of the show. And we, or at least I, didn't go to see his ass anyway. -j ********************************************** *Jennifer E. Gerbi Grad RA Materials Science* *1-113 ESB * *University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign * *Office Phone: 217-244-0332 * *http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~gerbi * ********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 12:27:15 -0400 (EDT) From: Jackman962@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori On Much Music In a message dated 97-08-04 11:13:18 EDT, you write: > Tori will be in the Much Music Spotlight on Fri. August 15th at 7:30 pm > (repeat at 11:30pm). For all those who missed the spotlight last time around, > > like me, it should be great since MM doesn't seem to play Tori videos much. For those of us without Much Music, could someone tape it for us? Either for cash or trade? Thanks, Jack Jackman962@aol.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 10:53:05 +0100 From: adrienne frances Subject: Re: My Tori Site Richard Holmes writes >I'm curious what Tori thinks about Jesus? Any interviews, etc? well, quite a while ago - at least on british tv (i don't know whether it's been shown in america or anything..) they ran a series of 15 minute slots every sunday morning with famous people talking about what they believe in. Tori's was pretty much what i already knew she believed in.. it was an okay interview, but the bloke who was interviewing her was kind of infuriating because he kept asking the same questions over and over.. anyway. it was good. and i don't think she actually mentioned jesus (although she might have done) she spoke of why she believes what she does and where she gets her music from - she remembers the songs. adrienne. new bits on my webpage, yippee doo. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 11:50:22 -0700 (PDT) From: bluegirl Subject: Re: Tori On Much Music i second this statement.... i have plenty to trade myself >For those of us without Much Music, could someone tape it for us? Either for >cash or trade? > >Thanks, >Jack >Jackman962@aol.com > > ~marissa at---->mlverma@odin.cmp.ilstu.edu ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ uM. whAt'S the Name oF tHe wOrd fOr tHinGs nOt beIng tHe saME alWayS. YOu KnoW. I'm SUrE thEre IS onE. IsN't tHeRE? :::::::: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:24:05 -0500 (CDT) From: Jennifer Gerbi Subject: Re: Steve Caton > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > Ummm.....I don't recall saying one thing about the talents of Steve Caton. > The only thing I commented on was the cigarette he was smoking onstage > during the RAINN concert. I think his smoking , especially at the benefit > for RAINN, looked trashy and tacky. It gave the him this bar room guitar > player look. I think it was disgusting and there is a time and place for > everything and smoking at TORI'S show (especially a televised charity event) > is wrong in my opinion. He needs to show some self control. Furthermore, I > wouldn't call his playing "amazing", I think he is good. I think he was > Tori's friend that was a good guitar player so she gave him the job. There > are many other talented guitarists, who, in my opinion, could play just as > well, or better,as Steve Caton. Also, I and many others DO care that he > smokes. I found it distracting as well as disgusting. Wow. someone who totally agrees with me. :) Methinks all the smokers are the ones who are getting jumpy and flamey?? -j > ********************************************** *Jennifer E. Gerbi Grad RA Materials Science* *1-113 ESB * *University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign * *Office Phone: 217-244-0332 * *http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~gerbi * ********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:18:49 -0500 (CDT) From: Jennifer Gerbi Subject: Re: Steve Caton > > My goodness ppl... you are making a big deal out of NOTHING!!! I totally > agree with Jason. You seem to forget MANY other singers smoke too. Tori has stated that she has a policy that the crew can't smoke around her, since it bothers her. So do flowers, I've heard her complain of allergies on a few interviews- the loveline radio one as an example. And, you better believe smoking is bad on a singer's- vocal chords, throat, lung capacity, etc. A lot of gravelly sounding rock singers seem to smoke, but few serious singers seem to- probably, the lung capacity thing is the number one short term problem there. -j ********************************************** *Jennifer E. Gerbi Grad RA Materials Science* *1-113 ESB * *University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign * *http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~gerbi * ********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 14:15:54 -0500 (CDT) From: Jennifer Gerbi Subject: re: Steve's habit On Sat, 2 Aug 1997, Cindy Elder wrote: > >Caton obviously doens't care about > >that, during the *most crucial time*, when she is performing. That > >disgusts me. > > Well, she knows how "crucial" that time is--so I'm suggesting that it > DOESN'T bother her. And I'm suggesting that it DOES bother ME. She doesn't sit with us, and she doesn't see what it looks like. hell, maybe she is in her singy la-la land and doesn't even notice. but WE do, and HE sure does, and it takes away from the show from the AUDIENCE's point of view, all passive-smoking-issues aside. > >Anything that comes in the way of her performing, and > >enjoying that to the fullest (including rude heckling fans), I hate. > > How do you know that it [Steve's smoking] "comes in the way of her > performing"? Has she ever said it did, specifically? You accuse me of > making assumptions, but I think you are. because it comes in the way of the presentation of her music, becaues it bugs the shit out of me. And, I think, that if she knew that during "winter" people are thinking "how tacky" or "how rude" or "how much I can't breathe right now", she would be annoyed. > I'm not calling you stupid, I'm calling that kind of thinking--that Tori > won't take care of herself, stupid. And how do you know that she does take care of herself? She looked sickly, pale, and quite sticklike in the rainn promos, she was often tired and dazed when she came out to talk to people, and she does at least 'shrooms and pot. Now, i don't think that is taking very good care of yourself. Actually, it is probably close to impossible to take good care of yourself when you are on tour. And history shows us that very commonly, genius musical personalities in our modern times were quite self-destructive. So, that is a huge assumption. I think tori is as amazing as the next person. I also think that some of her friends/people who followed her from show to show to just get drunk with her afterwards seemed to be of the self-distructive vein. It is hard to describe. Just because she is a wonderful, kind person and an amazing musician, it certainly doesn't mean she innately takes care of herself- certainly, the tone of BFP often takes on a self-destructive vein, in the context of relationships with men. And, that is one of the things I like about the album so much because I relate to it so much. > > >> >I can't abide someone who doesn't respect Tori, or at least her voice and > >> >performance. > >> > >> whatever...I don't think that applies to Steve AT ALL...you're the one who > >> isn't respecting Tori's tour choices (having Steve play w/ her, possibly > >> having a band the next tour)... I certainly can disagree without disrespecting. I think assuming she is some sort of god, and that every single decision that she ever makes is right, is disrespecting her as a HUMAN. > Look, what I meant was: that's fine if you disagree with what she's doing > (and yea, you can sure as hell say so) but if she's happy with things, who > are you to not respect that? Again, disagree does not equal disrespect, and, you are assuming she is happy with it. I am saying, as an audience member, I WASN'T, and even if she is unaware of it and technically the smoke is blowing away from her and she never knows it is even there, for me it interrupted the show, it came between the sort of dialogue she sets up between herself and each member of the audience, and I think THAT is disrespectful. > a discussion. We don't know what goes on between Tori & Steve, if they have > talked about it or not, if it bothers her AT ALL, etc. right. but I know what bothers me and what interrupts a show. Someone yelling "LOSE THE SONG" during me and a gun bothers the crap out of me, and someone smoking on the stage in amost always non-smoking venues bothers the crap out of me. -j ********************************************** *Jennifer E. Gerbi Grad RA Materials Science* *1-113 ESB * *University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign * *http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~gerbi * ********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 15:39:25 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Steve Caton On Mon, 4 Aug 1997, Jennifer Gerbi wrote: > Tori didn't use fog machines, in the shows where I saw her. and there are > different types... the ones they use in the clubs are the worst. Arg. But > all arguing aside, as to weather tori would feel comfortable telling caton > to quit it, as an AUDIENCE member, it bothers ME, not just being able to > smell it in a small venue, but just the stage appearance, his apparent > lack of respect for the show. I'm curious . . . why does his smoking convey an attitude of disrespect to you? > THAT is what bothers me the most, and as > how she is never sitting with us watching herself play, she doesn't know > what it LOOKS like. I retain my original position, which is that he is > being a big jerkyface by rudely, crudely, and annoying lighting up on > stage. Sheesh, tori has to give up all dairy during the whole tour... he > could give up smoking for the 2 hours duration of the show. And we, or at > least I, didn't go to see his ass anyway. -j *grin* Well, I'm not there to see Caton, but I do think that he adds quite a bit to the show. IMHO, Cornflake Girl with him is -so- much better than that canned track that she used during UtP. {And -I- think that he has quite a nice ass, actually. ;) } I don't see why smoking is rude, crude, or annoying. I -personally- am not bothered by smoke {although my husband is}. Unless he specifically has been asked to refrain from smoking, I don't see that it's a problem. Just because you [1] dislike smoking doesn't mean that it's rude of him to do so. If Tori is willing to live with his smoking on stage, it's her choice above all else. Or am I the only non-militant non-smoker left? ;) /nad [1] General "you" here, folks, not a specific "you". :) *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 04 Aug 1997 15:56:47 -0700 From: me Subject: I get MUCH MUSIC HI everyone, I get Much Music and I shall have my VCR ready. I can do some trading!! Tammy ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:16:45 -0400 (EDT) From: AnaisBleu@aol.com Subject: Re: tori w/ a band?? In a message dated 97-08-04 03:19:10 EDT, you write: << and > think that it would be fascinating to see tori play with other > musicians. >> I have oftenb thought about this also. From past recordings/live shows w/ tori playing with other musicians (whether its Caton, George Porter, Jr., or someone else), i think it is amazing to see how she works and interacts w/ them. My only concern is if adding a band could take away some of the intimate feeling that tori shows always have. . . But-- seeing her bring together the sounds of talented musicians and weave them into something wonderful using her piano & her voice could ADD to the intimacy. So i don't know exactly how i feel about her touring w/ a band. - --rae ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 16:18:15 -0400 (EDT) From: AnaisBleu@aol.com Subject: Fwd: tori w/ a band?? - --------------------- Forwarded message: Subj: Re: tori w/ a band?? Date: 97-08-04 16:08:56 EDT From: AnaisBleu To: Richard Handal In a message dated 97-08-04 03:19:10 EDT, Richard wrote: << here in the U.S. anyway-- Sneeze got a certain amount of airplay on the radio, but that no one played much of anything else off of it. I'm not sure what the real statistics on this were. >> Here in Baton Rouge, the only songs off Pele i've heard played are CALS, Talula, and Muhammed My Friend (ONE TIME by a cool DJ at 3 in the morning). . . but God and Cornflake still get airplay slightly more often than once in a blue moon ;-) - --rae ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 22:16:15 GMT From: aliceur@ibm.net Subject: not the red baron in _not the red baron_ , she says 'not judy g. not jean jean jean with a hallowed heart' and i've been wondering, couldn't tori mean judy garland and jean harlow? (or however you spell either one?) for the similarity between 'hallowed' and 'harlow', maybe? I don't know, coulD somebody mail me any thoughts about that, i've known her music for over a year now, but still can't understand many things she says. - -alicia ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 5 Aug 1997 01:15:21 +0000 From: "Gucci Little Piggy" Subject: Tori Singles Hi all; I'm currently writing an article about limited edition/rare singles and stuff, and I'd like to hear any stories any of you may have about obtaining that *one* single you were desperate to find. Have you paid well over the odds for a rare Tori single just to get your hands on it? Email me privately if you like to keep spam off the list, unless anyone else is interested. Paul :) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Sheep rule in Derbyshire" | http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du - Dez Minto | http://toristuff.home.ml.org Paul.Tweedy@durham.ac.uk | finger:d550du@vega.dur.ac.uk grendel@cus.umist.ac.uk | * Currently playing * ICQ : 1988634 | Dez & Paul : 'Live In The Loft' =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= 'There's nowt so queer as folk...' ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 4 Aug 1997 20:06:22 CDT From: hope414@houston.email.net Subject: a burning issue About Caton's habit: I attended the Houston DDI show last summer, and I do not recall seeing or smelling Steve Caton's cigarette smoke. However, I did see the dangling cigarette shot on "A concert for RAINN" and I remember thinking that it didn't look very appealing and it was quite tacky. Tori plays with a fan behind her, and it probably has a dual purpose: to cool her off and to blow Caton's smoke out of her breathing space. Tori and Caton have probably dealt with the issue long before any of us ever mentioned our feelings about it.. they've probably come to some sort of agreement on whether or not it is acceptable for him to smoke onstage. Yeah, maybe it looks terrible and offends many audience members... well, write to her manager and air your concerns about it. It does matter to Tori how we feel about her shows, so I urge anyone who is concerned about the smoking onstage issue to write Tori and her management. There's not much we can do about it when we're arguing amongst ourselves. Hope ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* "My heart is like the ocean It gets in the way So close to touching freedom Then I hear the guards call my name" -Tori Amos ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~~*~*~*~*~*~* ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #211 *************************************