From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #208 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, August 2 1997 Volume 02 : Number 208 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Hehee... [IceInHeart@aol.com] This Pic... [Chris Semon ] Rite Of Spring [Chris Semon ] steve caton's little habit... [HereNmyHed@aol.com] pet at the warpted tour? [emeraldnymph@juno.com] Re: steve caton's little habit... [jrobinson@nmcourt.fed.us] Tori Fanzine.. help needed :) ["Gucci Little Piggy" ] Tori Live -- my fantasy album [Casey ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 09:22:47 -0400 (EDT) From: IceInHeart@aol.com Subject: Re: Hehee... In a message dated 97-08-01 07:56:23 EDT, amethyst@maxwell.ml.org (Neil Moore) writes: << I have a friend whose birthday is, I believe, on the same day as Tori'= s, and another whose birthday is exactly 101 days before that of Tori. >> Well, just to add to this thread, My birthday is three days after Tori's,= at August 25th. My girlfriend's birthday is one day after, on the 23rd. She'll be 18 this year, and I'll be 20 (eek!) robert.. _^_http://members.aol.com/candlesdie/heart.htm_^_ (c) copyright RiSKfa=E7ade 1997 IRC - "candles" - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- Goth Code 3.1 [GoNQ TJt1 PLPaDr cBk(Lbr)-s6S V6s M2ZGon C6] [a19=3D n5 b52 H186 g5T??96A m@Z3 w5T v1 r4P] [p51565Zz D66 h7 sm9M SrNn k5 N1295CE RzS*2p1 LusNY5] [/^v-~~a cloud hangs over me, marks every move~~-v^\] - -------------------------------------------------------------------------= - ----- ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 08:57:37 -0700 From: Chris Semon Subject: This Pic... > 2) not everyone has a mailer which is capable of processing the graphic > file (which has to encoded to be mailed), so some of the people who could > receive the post couldn't do squat with it anyways. I was WONDERING what that was in my mailbox! My digest took FIVE minutes to download, and then it was a tiny little segment of conversations and about five pages of stuff that looked like dfaiusdyr98qwyerq2673`3434589er89we89ryq34571sdkhsiufyy98e392323sfs345453 I thought maybe Martians were trying to contact me! Hee! :) Chris Semon wombats@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Aug 1997 09:06:08 -0700 From: Chris Semon Subject: Rite Of Spring > i had never realized this!! but you're soooo right. i am the _biggest_ > fan of le sacre du printemps! (sorry, french major has to use the original > french title.) i've never managed to see tori live, but from the > recordings i've heard, i can see where she goes. stravinsky, for the time, > especially that piece, was considered revolutionary, he was on the > precipice of modern music; that crowd really did riot, and i don't think it > was all b/c of their digust for the piece (though the french really are > picky.) :-) One of the MAJOR reasons why the crowd started to flip is that the bulk of the dancers were pretty close to nude...the women in particular were going topless and the men didn't have a heck of a whole lot on to hide their...er...goods. The French aren't SHOCKED by nudity per se (their cabaret shows are fairly racy!) but the use of it in a ballet after being spoon-fed Romeo and Juliet and Sleeping Beauty was pretty shocking to them and really pushed their tolerance to new forms. The sets and what little costumes there were were also very avant-garde and the French were still getting over the whole new-vrs-old thing in art. The liberals in the audience thought Rite Of Spring was the greatest thing since sliced bread, and the conservatives thought it represented all that sucked with modern music. The music WAS fairly revolutionary, but the French had already been exposed to a lot of new chords and sequences and cadences and ideas from composers such as Debussy and Ravel. But as Richard pointed out, the arrhythmic 5/4 section after the opening English Horn solo did bug out more then a few eyes. :) Stravinsky was WAY pissed with the reaction...although it DID do wonders for his repuation! :) Chris Semon wombats@earthlink.net ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 10:24:45 -0400 (EDT) From: HereNmyHed@aol.com Subject: steve caton's little habit... Okay...I assume most of y'all saw the RAINN special on Lifetime. Well, what'd y'all think of Steve Caton (Tori's guitar player and former YKTR band mate) when he came on stage for "Cornflake Girl" with a cigarette dangling from his mouth? I thought it was sooooooo tacky and a lame attempt to be cool or something. I mean, I doubt he needed a cigarette soooo bad that he had to come on stage and television with it. Did y'all think it was lame too? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:00:12 -0400 From: emeraldnymph@juno.com Subject: pet at the warpted tour? i was reading the names of the bands playing at the warped tour in my area, and a band named pet is playing on the second stage. is this the same pet from igloo records? anyone that's familiar with the line-up, let me know. ((*)) kelly ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 01 Aug 97 09:01:27 MST From: jrobinson@nmcourt.fed.us Subject: Re: steve caton's little habit... When Tori was in Albuquerque at Popejoy Hall in November, he constantly smoked while on stage. I thought it was _extremely_ odd given that the venue is a NON-SMOKING auditorium. I also found that it was somewhat distracting, as I found my mind drifting with fantasies of the "Hey Buddy, No Smoking In Here" police raiding the concert and carting him off stage < ;)>. BTW, I didn't get to see the RAINN special, does anyone know when it will be airing again? Thanks.. Jill. ______________________________ Reply Separator _________________________________ Subject: steve caton's little habit... Author: HereNmyHed@aol.com at ~Internet Date: 8.1.97 08.50 Okay...I assume most of y'all saw the RAINN special on Lifetime. Well, what'd y'all think of Steve Caton (Tori's guitar player and former YKTR band mate) when he came on stage for "Cornflake Girl" with a cigarette dangling from his mouth? I thought it was sooooooo tacky and a lame attempt to be cool or something. I mean, I doubt he needed a cigarette soooo bad that he had to come on stage and television with it. Did y'all think it was lame too? ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 16:31:00 +0000 From: "Gucci Little Piggy" Subject: Tori Fanzine.. help needed :) Hi, I'm currently in the process of producing a new Tori Fanzine (on paper), to complement my web site and for the service of those Toriphiles who don't have net access to experience at least a little of the Tori community that we enjoy all the time. To this end, I'd be very grateful for any suggestions for content, or content itself; poems, your own sToris, any of your own personal lyric interpretations, meeting Tori experiences. If it all goes well (and I can upgrade my PC to allow me to run Microsoft Publisher properly..) it should be good; I've always wanted to get into publishing and this seems a good way of doing it :) Email me privately for more details.. thanks for anything you can do.. Paul :) =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= "Sheep rule in Derbyshire" | http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du - Dez Minto | http://toristuff.home.ml.org Paul.Tweedy@durham.ac.uk | finger:d550du@vega.dur.ac.uk grendel@cus.umist.ac.uk | * Currently playing * ICQ : 1988634 | =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 11:56:22 -0500 (CDT) From: Jennifer Gerbi Subject: Re: steve caton's little habit... On Fri, 1 Aug 1997 HereNmyHed@aol.com wrote: > Okay...I assume most of y'all saw the RAINN special on Lifetime. Well, > what'd y'all think of Steve Caton (Tori's guitar player and former YKTR band > mate) when he came on stage for "Cornflake Girl" with a cigarette dangling > from his mouth? I thought it was sooooooo tacky and a lame attempt to be > cool or something. I mean, I doubt he needed a cigarette soooo bad that he > had to come on stage and television with it. Did y'all think it was lame > too? I can't EXPRESS how much I hate this. I just can't. Tori is bothered by smoke- the crew, etc, are NOT allowed to smoke around her. So mr. big fucking shot, goes on stage and smokes right in front of her, when she is performing. It really makes me hate him for that. As a person who is intensely allergic to it, I know how much one can be bothered by it, and while I was so happy to be in like the 5th row in the Normal, IL show, *I* could even smell it when he lit up, on stage, when she was doing her encore, of WINTER. give me a fucking break!! And then, he didn't even play after that, he just sat there, and then she was done after that song. I can't abide someone who doesn't respect Tori, or at least her voice and performance. Caton was the one thing that pretty much consistently bothered me about the shows. I don't really like his playing, and obviously I hate his stage attitude. IMHO, he should go make another Y kant tori read, w/o tori, and leave her be. At his best, he isn't distracting, and at his worse, well, I've said that already. this is the main reason that I DREAD her touring with a band. She is so good...really, anything is distracting. she shines on her own. I could see, if she paired up with another sort of world-class musician on a number or two, that it would be quite interesting and nice. But a rock band, with her? I'm worried it will be caton x 5 plus tori. ugh. i think, for example, tori with cello would be amazing, tori singing some with stipe or menard would be amazing, or even playing with a FANTASTIC guitar player...very interesting. but tori playing with the mediochre talent that Caton is is just bad judgement on her part, and makes me think that it is due to friendship reasons and not musical ones. Fire up the flamethrowers, I'll duck. ;) -j > ********************************************** *Jennifer E. Gerbi Grad RA Materials Science* *1-113 ESB * *University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign * *http://www.students.uiuc.edu/~gerbi * ********************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:20:38 -0400 (EDT) From: DeadPetlz@aol.com Subject: Re: Hehee... In a message dated 97-08-01 07:56:12 EDT, amethyst@maxwell.ml.org (Neil Moore) writes: << Tori's birthday is: Two days after my mother's and my brother's, six days before my best friend's, 192 days after mine (that being the sum of two powers of two), 142 days after my father's (the sum of 100 (a prime number which is the sum of two other prime numbers) and 42 (the Ultimate Answer to Life, the Universe, and Everything)), 70 days after my sister's (the product of the first four prime numbers, except 3, which is the number of months (June, July, August) involved), and 4 days before that of one of the people who got me interested in Tori (my ex-girlfriend's friend). I leave for college on Tori's birthday, although I don't start classes until 5 days later. Tori's birthday is also on the 234th day of the year, and (this year) the 10095th or 10096th day of the Unix epoch (the epoch began on midnight, 1 Jan 1970, GMT; does anyone know at what time she was born?). She was born on the -2324th or -2323rd day of the epoch (I hope I got those leap year calculations correct). >> Well all i can say is...WoW....did i hatch anything by anouncing the goddesses birfday? =) that reminds me....who likes green eggs and ham?? ^v^Raven^v^ ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 14:16:23 -0400 (EDT) From: DeadPetlz@aol.com Subject: Re: Hehee... In a message dated 97-08-01 04:39:23 EDT, AnaisBleu@aol.com writes: << in reply to Raven's "Hee Hee" post about tori's biurthday, thought i'd add my 2 cents and mention that tori's birthday is ONE DAY after mine! Sorry, raven, i've got you beat. . . ;-) >> =O lucky you!! =) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 17:43:39 -0400 From: deathgoddess@juno.com (Megan Muckelmann) Subject: tori's b-day Well, since Tori's Birthday is coming up this month, and since I heard that she reads all her mail even though she can't respond to all of it, I'd like to send her a birthday card thanking her for being her and best wishes for a happy birthday. Does anyone know where I would send this to? The record company address in BFP? Thanks for anyone's help!! MEG ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 19:11:55 -0400 (EDT) From: WeirdyBoy@aol.com Subject: Re: Tori & Influences Not only was Tubular Bells the them song for The Exorcist, but it was also a big hit as a single and an album by Mike Oldfield. It's an almost hour-long totally instrumental musical masterpiece (in my opinion) with ALL instruments played by Mr Oldfield himself. Quite impressive, and the music is beautiful. I think Tori put it in Father Lucifer as a way to darken the mood of song a bit. It works well, and I get chills every time I hear Tori play it. ps... Sorry, Richard, I assume (too often) that people have too much free time, like me right now. Not always a fun thing, though. :) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 1997 20:04:37 -0400 (EDT) From: Richard Handal Subject: Re: Tori & Influences Jason said: > Not only was Tubular Bells the them song for The Exorcist, but it was > also a big hit as a single and an album by Mike Oldfield. Violet was quick to point out on RDT that Tori was *not* playing Tubular Bells as part of Father Lucifer, but the theme from The Exorcist. She said she's played both on the piano before and that they are not the same, as most of us who had any idea about any of this probably thought. She didn't explain that, though. I don't look forward to having to figure that out on my own, as I don't really read music, and it would probably be time-consuming as well. If anyone can explain what she may have meant about that I would be most grateful. I asked Violet about this a long time ago and she never answered. She's not always able to manage to do much email. Thanks. Be seeing you, Richard Handal, H.G. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 1 Aug 97 20:45:39 -0000 From: Casey Subject: Tori Live -- my fantasy album Hi all, Ok ... so I was sitting here listening to some of my Tori boots and thinking *WHY* doesn't Tori release a live album?!?! I mean really, she's probably leading the way of artists in the number of bootlegs made of them, we all listen to horrible/crummy/staticky recordings just to hear her live, we drive for hours to see the shows, and buy every single with live stuff on it we can get our hands on, and ... of course ... she is amazing live. So why not make a live album? The timing seems perfect to me. She's toured for a year now, she's taking a break, we are in between album -- I don't know. I think a live album would be *great* right now. I'm thinking somewhere along the lines of a 2-CD album, very much like Ani DiFranco's 'Living in Clip'. And, in addition to songs, there has to be at least 4 or 5 Tori Stories/anecdotes in between songs. So, without further ado, here's my fantasy Tori Live album (all songs recorded during Dew Drop Inn tour, unless otherwise noted): Disk 1 ====== "Son Of A Preacher Man"/Cheers/Intro 1. Beauty Queen/Horses 2. I'm On Fire 3. Crucify 4. Doughtnut Song 5. Blood Roses 6. Little Amsterdam (from RAINN benefit concert) 7. Silent All These Years 8. Caught A Lite Sneeze 9. God/Amazing Grace (from Boulder, CO 11/11/96) 10. Precious Things 11. Happy Phantom 12. Sugar 13. Marianne 14. Muhammad My Friend (w/ Maynard of "Tool"; from RAINN benefit concert) 15. Song for Eric 16. Cornflake Girl (from RAINN benefit concert) Disk 2 ====== 1. Talula 2. Icicle 3. Leather 4. Hey Jupiter 5. In The Springtime of His Voodoo 6. Bells for Her (from the 'Utp' tour w/ the funky upright she played this song on) 7. Mother 8. Honey 9. The Waitress (from Boulder, CO 11/11/96) 10. Winter 11. Here In My Head 12. Hurt/Putting the Damage On 13. Losing My Religion 10. Little Earthquakes 15. Me And A Gun 16. Pretty Good Year (from RAINN benefit concert) ... and there you have it. My *DREAM* live Tori album. Now, if we can just convince her to do a live album at all =) - -Casey =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= / "If I shed a tear, I won't cage it ... if I feel a rage I won't / \ deny it ... I won't fear love" \ / -Sarah McLachlan; 'Fumbling Towards Ecstasy' / \ \ / "I have my own parties. They involve being barefoot with a piece / \ of fried chicken and a margarita in each hand." \ / -Tori Amos / =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #208 *************************************