From: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org (precious-things-digest) To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V2 #180 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Sender: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, July 5 1997 Volume 02 : Number 180 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [Fwd: Re: Tori cd's, video bootlegs] [Katharine Silvia ] Re: Widow mix on Boys for Pele [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: Caught a lite sneeze [richard68@globalxs.nl] Tori Videos [dilbert@metro.net] Re: [Fwd: Tori cd's, video bootlegs] [robyn ] Videos A to Z ["Anastasia" ] Re: Caught a lite sneeze [RedShift17@aol.com] SATY cassette single [Dave Woodson ] Re: Caught a lite sneeze ["Connor Hamil" ] Re: SATY cassette single ["Anastasia" ] Re: vh1 [Alley Angel ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 22:54:07 -0500 From: Katharine Silvia Subject: [Fwd: Re: Tori cd's, video bootlegs] Message-ID: <33BC7386.2339@pacbell.net> Date: Thu, 03 Jul 1997 22:52:38 -0500 From: Katharine Silvia Reply-To: lioness7@pacbell.net X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01GoldC-PBWG (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bob Subject: Re: Tori cd's, video bootlegs References: <199707040328.WAA22784@siesta.cs.wustl.edu> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit bob wrote: > > Katharine Silvia writes: > > Hi, > > I am feeling like helping someone out. > > Yourself, perhaps? Or maybe your bill collectors? > > > I have some various bootlegs on > > CD and video. I am willing to make certain copys for those of you that > > don't have these special items for a small price. > > A small price would be one thing... If I want someone to do me the favor > of taking my money for an nth generation copy, there are any number of > takers all over the place. And if you have the gall to sell them, at least > mention generation/quality. > > > VIDEO'S > > 1. " Little Earthquakes" $10.00 > > Copyrighted Official Release, which, though rumored to be out of print, is > still readily available in stores and mail order for $12-$15. > Well Bob that one was a typo it was only suppose to be $5.00 And I don't exaclty know where the fuck you live but where i live your lucky tho find it for $20.00 > > 2. " Oakland 7-12-96" $20.00 (you provide vhs tape) > > Bzzzzt. She didn't do any concerts in 95, but someone who actually > cared about what they had would realize that... And the $20 is for a > 90 minute rental of your video equipment and doesn't even include a $2 tape? > > > 3. " New York January 23, 1997" $20.00 > > 4. " Concert for Rainn" $20.00 > > Hmmmm. If you actually _watch_ these, they might be awfully similar... > And it wasn't farmers in need of precipitation that this concert was a > benefit for. It's RAINN, not that you'd have any idea what it represents > or Tori's involvement in it. > > > 5. " Ultimate t.v. compliation" $25.00 > > One might ask for a detailed listing but it'd probably be 75% or better > wrong... Of course, as it is a compilation Jay Leno does start to look > like David Letterman after 10 or so generations. Bob I was waiting to see if I got any response before I took the time out to list everything. My goal isn't to rip people off or make any money either. Tori products are fairly rare and expensive where I live and although I may seem like I'm trying to make a profit off this shit I am asking for way below what I paid for it. Now if you live in such an amazing town where you can find tori products everywhere and for way cheaper than I'm asking maybe YOU would like to help us out a little by offering copies. I however am not rich and farrrr from it so at the moment I cannot make copies for free. > > > These video's can be recorded in both Video and audio format > > for audio $10.00 > > So your audio equipment is cheaper to rent time on than your video > equipment? A good analog cassette deck will run you about as much > as a respectable HIFI VHS recorder. What's that? Oh, it's an $80 Teac > dual-well deck you are recording to. That explains the price difference. > And as far as renting goes I dont rent my equipment, as shitty as u think I am, I actually happen to own 6 VCR's, And I don't have an $80 dollar Teac. My stereo system cost way over $1300. And I see u have a problem with picking on people ooh look i started my paragraph with And. Nor did I punctuate correctly oooooh look I wrote the letter u instead of spelling it out. Well Mr.Bob People make mistakes but seeing how your absolutely perfect I am so sorry for making typing errors. > > CD's > > 1. "Somewhere over the rainbow" 1 cd $20. > > 2. "Unplugged and unreleased" 1 cd $20. > > 3. "Tori Stories" 4 cd's $20. per CD or individually > > > > These can be recorded on both audio and CD format. > > 10.00 per audio tape > > the Cd form will be in about a month if anyone can wait. > > Ahhhhhh! So that's why you're helping people out! To buy yourself a > CD-R. How nice of you. Selling the use of equipment before it's bought > to finance it's purchase. And as far as a cd recorder goes I already have one. I just don't have the cd's yet which i guess I forgot to mention I'd pay for. Wow I'm paying for something. Isn't that a miracle > > Notice you don't mention anything about trades... Guess you aren't > interested in "helping" anybody that way - there's no money in it. > All you'd get is enjoyment from watching/listening. But that presupposes > that you give a damn about the contents of the tapes you are selling. And if yuo were even interested in doing anything but bashing me maybe you would have asked if I would trade and I would have said YES. Like I said I just posted it to see if anyone would really want anything. > > Of course, as you are selling these tapes, you'd probably find traders > hard to come by anyway as many (especially those who tape themselves) > seriously resent anyone turning a buck on their efforts, much less those > of an artist they respect. I know you'll never wind up with a tape directly > through me. As far as trading goes I am on many other music list's and I have traded many times and have paid as much as $200 for products off the web from others. And as far as getting a tape from you goes with your attitude it's probably stuck in your ass at this moment. > > Katharine - if you're in it for the money, fine. Don't try fooling yourself > (or anyone else) into believing you are "helping" someone. If it wasn't > for your opening sentence I probably would have just deleted your message > and moved on. I stated my reasons earlier for charging money. Well you should have deleted it and moved on. Thank u for showing me how mean a person can be. > > Everyone else - ask around (nicely) on tori-boot or r.m.t-a. There's plenty > of people willing to actually *help* people out - in trade, for blank and > return postage, or at the very worst, 2 blanks and return postage (though > the motives of the latter are a bit shady as well). Hell, I've made numerous > copies of concerts I've taped gratis as gifts for those who I met at the > concert. A smile and look of surprise is worth far more than a $10 check. > At the *very, very* least, if you are going to pay money for boots, find > someone who knows what RAINN is and might own a legitimate Tori recording > or two... As far as people go I have been offered trades (and they've never arrived) I have been offered free copies (they too never arrived) and the only things I have ever gotten were things that I paid for. and if your so generous why don't u offer something. > > bob p.s My name isn't Katharine. My name is Andrea. Kas was nice enough to write this out for me and no she may now be the greatest tori fan but I am, u should't beat her down for making typing errors, but I guess in your world Bob you have to be perfect. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 10:20:18 -0400 From: the woj of noise Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: Tori cd's, video bootlegs] bzzzzt! katharine and bob, please take your discussion off-list. thanks. woj (with his listowner hat on) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:20:13 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Tori cd's, video bootlegs On Wed, 2 Jul 1997, Katharine Silvia wrote: > I am feeling like helping someone out. I have some various bootlegs on > CD and video. I am willing to make certain copys for those of you that > don't have these speacil items for a small price. > > VIDEO'S > 1. " Little Earthquakes" $10.00 Umm, if this is the legit LE video, you can buy it for around $15 about anywhere that stocks music videos. I believe that Best Buy has it currently for around $12.99. > 2. " Oakland 7-12-95" $20.00 (you provide vhs tape) > 3. " New York January 23, 1997" $20.00 > 4. " Concert for Rain" $20.00 > 5. " Ultimate t.v. compliation" $25.00 If you're asking the person to send you both the tape *and* money, that's a bit steep, IMHO. {Also, Tori wasn't touring in '95, so I'm assuming that the Oakland show is actually 12 July 1996.} Hopefully, other folks would be willing to make copies of these for just the cost of a tape and postage. {I'd offer to do it, but I don't have the capability to copy VHS tapes.} > These video's can be recorded in both Video and audio format > for audio $10.00 But I do have the capability to copy audios. I don't ave the Oakland show on audio, but I do have the *full* RAINN show on audio. If anyone is interested in that, drop me a line at mielke@mindspring.com and we'll work something out. I help out newbies too. :) > 1. "Somewhere over the rainbow" 1 cd $20. > 2. "Unplugged and unreleased" 1 cd $20. > 3. "Tori Stories" 4 cd's $20. per CD or individually And if anyone wants audio copies of these, drop me a line as well. Or you can get the actual boot CD {and not just a copy of a copy} for $20-$30. I usually buy my stuff from Rainy Day Records. You can reach them at: http://www.rainy.com rainy@rainy.com (800)636-6166 Tori Stories is out of print, so the whole four CD set will be pretty hard to come by. However, the first disc {the one that usually everyoen wants, with the UtP solo piano demos and the wedding performance from 1978} has been re-released *twice* now, as "Ultra Rarities" and more recently as "The Wedding Performance". The second and fourth discs are LE and UtP concerts, respectively, and neither are all that hard to come by. {If my memory serves, the LE concert is on 2 or 3 other boot CDs.} The third disc is a collection of covers and other rarities, but you can get most of the songs on there from the two "Under the Covers" compilations from the folks over at Really Deep Thoughts. {If you need UtC, drop me a line.} /nad *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 11:31:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: Widow mix on Boys for Pele On Thu, 3 Jul 1997 RedShift17@aol.com wrote: > I recently saw a version of BfP with Professional Widow listed ah one of the > mixed versions, not the orginal track, it was selling for 20$.. Anyone ever > heard of this? Or seen this? BfP was re-released overseas. They added a second version of PW {I can never remember which one}, and removed In the Springtime of His Voodoo. Since it's an import [1], you can expect to pay $20-$30. It's a legit release on EastWest Records. /nad [1] Not to be confused with "import", AKA bootleg *************************************************************************** * Nadyne Mielke, CS majour, Southern Tech, Marietta, GA * * * * "I regret to say that we of the FBI are powerless to act in cases of * * oral-genital intimacy, unless it has in some way obstructed interstate * * commerce. " -- J. Edgar Hoover * *************************************************************************** ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 18:06:09 +0200 From: richard68@globalxs.nl Subject: Re: Caught a lite sneeze >From: "Connor Hamil" >Subject: Caught A Lite Sneeze >Yesterday I picked up a CD Single of Caught A Lite Sneeze which I'd >never seen before. It's on EastWest, and has CALS, Graveyard (which I >had thought previously to be only on the cassette version of the >single in Europe), and Toodles Mr. Jim. I have this as well. It's the cheaper version of the jewel case cd-singles. It has less tracks and less packaging. >it says "Plays the same both sides", an odd thing >to put on a CD don't you think? (it's on the cassette single, naturally). I wondered about that! So, now we know. Seems like somebody used the same artwork for the cassette and this single. >Do I have a rarity on my hands here? No, they are not rare. As you've noticed, there are too many around. I think the 'limited edition picture cd single with 3 extra tracks' is more rare. It has a cardboard case and has London girls, That's what I like Mick and Samurai. If I'm correct though, the single with the cardboard sleeve is the only one of the cd singles to have the beautiful little tune Graveyard on it. Regards, Richard ------------------------------ Date: Thu, 3 Jul 1997 13:31:22 +0300 From: dilbert@metro.net Subject: Tori Videos >So, I turn to the list for help. Does anybody out there have all or most >of Tori's videos on video and would be willing to make a copy for me. I >don't have much to offer as a trade, but I'm willing to reimburse you for >your troubles. Yes,could someone make a copy of her videos for me too? As Dreamshelf already knows, I DON'T WANT EITHER 1) EXPENSIVE ONES OR 2) LIMITED EDITON OR ORIGIONAL ONES. I just want the videos. I can send a blank tape and cover postage, and I can make copies of Alanis Morissette bootlegs, and that's it. And I already have the Little Earthquakes video with the vids on it, so if it's missing one of those it's no problem! Thank you for being such a nice list!!! Tarot (Note the new sig!!! PIPPI LONGSTOCKING ROCKS!!!) Scream! You got an e-mail from Tarot Webmaster of "Shadows of Ourselves, a Duncan Sheik page" http://metro.net/dilbert "Run into the woodshed and lock the door quickly!!!" --Pippi Longstocking ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 12:06:14 -0600 From: robyn Subject: Re: [Fwd: Tori cd's, video bootlegs] I thought it was kewl that Katherine posted that, I can't find anywhere that sells videos, and stuff like that, and I want to get some good Tori shows on video soooooo bad! Does anyone have any good videos that they are 'willing' to trade, or sell? I'll be happy to do either.....PLEASE write me back :) robyn At 11:11 PM 7/2/97 -0500, you wrote: >Message-ID: <33BB250F.6A19@pacbell.net> >Date: Wed, 02 Jul 1997 23:05:36 -0500 >From: Katharine Silvia >Reply-To: lioness7@pacbell.net >X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.01GoldC-PBWG (Win95; I) >MIME-Version: 1.0 >To: Precious-things@smoe.org >Subject: Tori cd's, video bootlegs >Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Hi, >I am feeling like helping someone out. I have some various bootlegs on >CD and video. I am willing to make certain copys for those of you that >don't have these speacil items for a small price. > >VIDEO'S >1. " Little Earthquakes" $10.00 >2. " Oakland 7-12-95" $20.00 (you provide vhs tape) >3. " New York January 23, 1997" $20.00 >4. " Concert for Rain" $20.00 >5. " Ultimate t.v. compliation" $25.00 > >These video's can be recorded in both Video and audio format > for audio $10.00 > >CD's >1. "Somewhere over the rainbow" 1 cd $20. >2. "Unplugged and unreleased" 1 cd $20. >3. "Tori Stories" 4 cd's $20. per CD or individually > >These can be recorded on both audio and CD format. > 10.00 per audio tape > the Cd form will be in about a month if anyone can wait. > ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 15:43:00 -0000 From: "Anastasia" Subject: Videos A to Z Yet, again I wake up to dissapointment.. Well I did wake up at 8, waited until Tori came on and then, alas, one video. What's this world coming to? Sure I love "Silent All These Years" and I was happy to see it, but.. Since this was videos A to Z they could have spared maybe a couple more videos. It's just amazing to me how they can play all these other videos of some 80's stuff I never heard of. Like 10 of Paula Abdul's.. and 1 Tori. *sigh* - -Anastasia- "I believe in energy, everything is energy. And therefore sometimes magic can be created if somebody is open to letting energy do what it does, instead of being so cynical, that you miss magic happening. I mean, the reason I thank the fairies, frankly, is because I'm not stupid." *Tori Amos* ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 16:39:18 -0400 (EDT) From: RedShift17@aol.com Subject: Re: Caught a lite sneeze In a message dated 97-07-04 14:44:52 EDT, richard68@globalxs.nl writes: << If I'm correct though, the single with the cardboard sleeve is the only one of the cd singles to have the beautiful little tune Graveyard on it. >> Nope! I have it on my UK Talula cd... :) Erica ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 04 Jul 1997 17:14:56 -0600 From: Dave Woodson Subject: SATY cassette single I just picked up the SATY cassette single with the live version from the RAINN benefit, and I noticed that there is a small copyright date in the lower right hand corner that reads 1977 Calvin Klein, Inc. This must be a typo, since I can't think of anything about the single or it's packaging that's 20 years old. Does everybody's copy of this cassette say 1977? Just curious. -Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 5 Jul 1997 01:54:46 +0000 From: "Connor Hamil" Subject: Re: Caught a lite sneeze > From: RedShift17@aol.com > Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 16:39:18 -0400 (EDT) > To: precious-things@smoe.org > Subject: Re: Caught a lite sneeze > Reply-to: RedShift17@aol.com > In a message dated 97-07-04 14:44:52 EDT, richard68@globalxs.nl writes: > > << If I'm correct though, the single with the cardboard sleeve is the only > one > of the cd singles to have the beautiful little tune Graveyard on it. >> > > > Nope! I have it on my UK Talula cd... :) No you don't! I have both UK Talula CD's (and the US one, come to that) and none of them have Graveyard on. Graveyard was only ever released in the UK on the cassette single of CALS (and this weird CD pressing). It certainly wasn't on any Talula or subsequent release. Paul =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- "A pig in cage on antibiotics" Paul.Tweedy@durham.ac.uk grendel@cus.umist.ac.uk =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du http://toristuff.home.ml.org ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 4 Jul 1997 21:07:01 -0000 From: "Anastasia" Subject: Re: SATY cassette single Yeah, all the cd's and cassettes are like that. It's just a major typo. :) - ---------- > From: Dave Woodson > To: precious-things@smoe.org > Subject: SATY cassette single > Date: Friday, July 04, 1997 11:14 PM > > I just picked up the SATY cassette single with the live version from > the RAINN benefit, and I noticed that there is a small copyright date in > the lower right hand corner that reads 1977 Calvin Klein, Inc. This must be > a typo, since I can't think of anything about the single or it's packaging > that's 20 years old. Does everybody's copy of this cassette say 1977? Just > curious. > -Dave ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 05 Jul 1997 00:06:52 -0400 From: Alley Angel Subject: Re: vh1 At 05:06 PM 7/4/97 -0500, you wrote: >so was anyone awake this morning when vh1 started their video A to Z >thing? i wasn't...i wanted to know if they played tori or not. Yes! I was amazingly enough, and they only plaid Silent All These Years, but that was good enough for me!!!!! I was in the next room, heard it, screamed, dropped what I was doing, and ran into my room to watch it... ah... the prefect start to such a perfect day... :) @}-->-->--- ChibiRini Fairy Queen *~^~^~Tania~^~^~* Froggie Playing a Song} ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~} "...I go from day to day, I { %&%&%&~Tau Beta Sigma/Pi Delta Pi~%&%&%&} know where the cupboards are {-----------------------------------------} I know where the car is { hidden in a dark alley, a midsummers } parked I know he isn't { night, there came a glowing unearthly } you..." { light... then she appeared... } ~Tori Amos, {~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~} {"A girl is a verb, a whirl of color..." } 'Hey, Jupiter' { --Frente', "Girl" } ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~} tarr1658@uriacc.uri.edu } Me: http://www.ici.net/cust_pages/arruda/tania/chibirini.html } ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~} ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V2 #180 *************************************