From: owner-precious-things-digest To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V1 #232 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Saturday, 16 November 1996 Volume 01 : Number 232 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Talula Re: not played on tour Here...Head and Talula Re: God Tori Amos plays executive Re: Taos, New Mexico FYI Re: God Re: not played on tour Re: not played on tour Cornflake girl/ Blood Roses Re: Cornflake girl/ Blood Roses Pet Promo for Sale Somebody send me the Blue Skies lyrics !... Re: Pet Promo for Sale Re: "god" was Re: Tori young cornflake girl/blood roses ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kristina L Goetz Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 01:36:00 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re: Talula OF course Mazing Grace is wonderful, would you expect anything less?? ------------------------------ From: Green Jello Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 08:13:13 -0800 Subject: Re: not played on tour Kristina L Goetz wrote: > Has she ever played Flying Dutchman? I'm pretty sure she might of, but I > haven't heard of her doing it. > > Kristina yes she has... i was present... it was the fall of `92 - ---- Green Jello http://w3.one.net/~jkl/ ------------------------------ From: Ewald Katherine Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 9:59:18 EST Subject: Here...Head and Talula Here. In My Head was originally on the Crucify UK cd single. Talula Bsides: US - Samurai, Frog on my Toe, London Girls and the BT's Synthesasia mix of Talula. UK- (2 cds) Frog on my Toe, Alamo, Sister Named Desire Amazing Grace/'Til the Chicken BT's Synthesasia Mix there you go! katherine ------------------------------ From: Ewald Katherine Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 16:00:02 EST Subject: Re: God I just wanted to make the comment that it is possible to be a Christian and not believe in a totally male image of God or be sexist. I am proof of that. Thanks, Katherine ------------------------------ From: Charlie Poole Date: Thu, 14 Nov 1996 22:19:27 -0500 (EST) Subject: Tori Amos plays executive The subject of this is the title of an article that appeared in the Indiana Daily Student this morning, Nov. 14th. The IDS (often referred to as the Indiana Daily Stupid) is the "official" mouthpiece of the university. The writer, Alisa Blackwood interviewed Tori for this piece which follows: Song writer and her manager form their own label Tori Amos has set aside her performance career for the time being to delve into a new project: developing her own record label. As the story goes, Amos and her long-time manager Arthur Spivak, claim they were married 10,000 years ago in a previous life, spending their years together living in an igloo. When the two friends and business partners decided, lifetimes later, to combine their talents and form a custom label within the Atlantic Group, Igloo Records was born. "Igloo came about when Arthur played me a band called Pet, and I started hearing the comments labels were making," Amos said during a phone interview last week. "I thought it would be really sad if some schmoozy producer came in and tried to make them into what their concept of Pet was." So Amos and Spivak developed their plan for Igloo Records and snatched Pet up themselves. Igloo released Pet's self-titled debut in September with Amos as executive producer. Amos now plays a large role in generating publicity for both Igloo and Pet, but she said she hopes the label will one day take on a life of its own. "I'd like to think at a certain point Igloo will develop," Amos said. "But right now Igloo is still nursing from my left breast." For those expecting Pet to be a Tori Amos sound-alike, think again. "My shows are about people being seated. Pet is very much about a mosh pit," Amos said. "Even though I'm open to kids running up to the stage and hanging out, it is very much a different energy. I want to be taking a journey with you. I see Pet opening for Tool. But if someone starts screaming in the middle of one of my songs, I'll have them by their balls." Amos said she does not expect everyone to like the choices she makes concerning Igloo, but people should respect them. "I don't have a mass consciousness ear. Sometimes the things I respond to are a little more underground and it takes a little more wine to get into," Amos said. "And I like wine, so that's great." Amos has released three hit solo albums on the Atlantic label: Little Earthquakes, Under the Pink and Boys For Pele. The red-headed piano diva has built her fan base sky high, but now she says she is ready for a change, despite the new and sometimes frustrating challenges with which it presents her. "I've done the girl and the piano thing. I've exhausted it," Amos said. "Sometimes when artists think a certain take is so much better, I just have to back off. They know what they want from their music. But the question is, can you be objective enough to know when you've 'got it?' "A lot of times artists are looking for different things, she added. "You don't fuck to a metronome, and I'm not looking for the neat, clean picture here. In the end, I always respect the band, and you've got to figure you will not always agree with everyone all the time." Not only does Amos want to produce for Igloo, she also said she wants to make sure artists signed to their label receive the respect she didn't get early in her own career. "Atlantic and I signed a contract where they practically owned me for 20 years, but now I renegotiate every time I make a record," Amos said. "It's hard to think that when you're in a democracy that someone could own you for 20 years, but I signed it. I try to teach young artists how to protect themselves. It's so frustrating sometimes. I just want to say, 'Put your weed and your skateboard down for five minutes and _read_ [contracts]!'" Aside from learning the ropes of the "other side" in working for Igloo, Amos also continues to learn about herself. "I'm striving for a balance for reseeing everything that I've kind of judged my whole life on," Amos said. "You're always trying to reprogram. I think we were all pretty much told what to think, not how to think. You're usually working through many layers of 'what do I really think,' not, 'what have I been told to think?' Sometimes we just suck it all up. It may be politically incorrect, but it just pisses me off! If you can be that honest with yourself, then you're growing. This doesn't stop even when you're 90. I'm learning every day." Hope you enjoyed. In Tori, Charlie - -- +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | C.W. Poole | "Charlie" | cpoole@indiana.edu | +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | To me happiness, true happiness is when you can really dance | | with sad. --Tori Amos | | I have spent a lifetime learning how to cry. --Janis Ian | *----------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ From: ckone7@juno.com (Scott J Francisco) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 10:16:32 EST Subject: Re: Taos, New Mexico In the song "Honey" Tori says something like, "Made friends in the western sky" Now honey was supposed to be on UTP, but at the last minute it was kicked off. As tori says "I am such a dingaling" Thats my two cents for today. Scott >~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~>~> This wonderful message is from Scott Francisco I think I'll go for a walk outside now the summer sun's calling my name, (I hear it now) just can't wait inside all day... - - The Brady Children ------------------------------ From: agentorange2@juno.com (Rusty M Shelby) Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 11:43:46 EST Subject: FYI FYI - "I'm On Fire" (VH-1 crossroads live version) was played on VH-1 today at 10:48 AM EST. but, it also plays on your computer on request if you have the cd! whatever... i was sitting here getting my email and it came on so i thought i would let you know of this tori "on tv" siting! - -rusty ------------------------------ From: Newanda Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 09:56:49 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: God On Thu, 14 Nov 1996, Ewald Katherine wrote: > I just wanted to make the comment that it is possible to be a Christian and > not believe in a totally male image of God or be sexist. I am proof of that. > > Thanks, > Katherine > Now you have two proofs of that. I have never seen God as a total male image, some people just aren't looking deep enough. Adam > > ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ::Adam Thomas Heath See me at http://www.ECNet.Net/users/muath2 :: ::for some groovy lovin' Tori, Toad, REM, Sara, and Pulp rule! :: :: NYMETS IN '97 :: ::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: ------------------------------ From: "Desmodus" Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 13:22:27 -0500 Subject: Re: not played on tour She played it on the Dew Drop Inn Tour as well, Roanoke for one. - ---------- > From: Green Jello > To: precious-things@smoe.org > Subject: Re: not played on tour > Date: Friday, November 15, 1996 11:13 AM > > Kristina L Goetz wrote: > > > Has she ever played Flying Dutchman? I'm pretty sure she might of, but I > > haven't heard of her doing it. > > > > Kristina > > yes she has... i was present... it was the fall of `92 > > ---- > Green Jello > http://w3.one.net/~jkl/ ------------------------------ From: Tuan Pham Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 14:45:32 -0500 Subject: Re: not played on tour At 01:22 PM 11/15/96 -0500, you wrote: >She played it on the Dew Drop Inn Tour as well, Roanoke for one. Flying Dutchman was also played on Sept 9, 1996. She did it at Harborlights in Boston. Also, it was performed in New York at Symphony Space on 03-29-94. This is available on the Spirit of the Sky bootleg or Sweet Dreams are made of This. ShadowKat (T.Pham) tpham@tiac.net o _______________________ /\_ _| | | "You say that you have 'em _\__`[____________|____________| I say that you're a liar ] [ \, ][ ][ Go on, go on, go on and dream Your house is on fire." -Tori Amos "Sweet Dreams" "So darlin', I just want to say o _______________________ Just in case I don't come through /\_ _| | | I was on to every play _\__`[___________|_____________| and I just wanted you." ] [ \, ][ ][ -Fiona Apple "Shadowboxer" ------------------------------ From: Kristina L Goetz Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:10:14 -0500 (EST) Subject: Cornflake girl/ Blood Roses I was just in the shower singing Cornflake Girl and Blood Roses when I suddenly thought of something. Cornflake girl is based on an Alice Walker novel in which women are circumsized and their "parts" thrown to the chickens...... in Blood Roses it says "when chickens get a taste of your meat' when he sucks you deep/ sometimes you're nothing but meat.... see the connection? Kristina ------------------------------ From: Bob Moyer Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 15:29:02 -0500 Subject: Re: Cornflake girl/ Blood Roses > Cornflake girl is based on an Alice Walker > novel in which women are circumsized and their "parts" thrown to the > chickens...... in Blood Roses it says "when chickens get a taste of your > meat' when he sucks you deep/ sometimes you're nothing but meat.... > > see the connection? Yes. And thank you oh-so-much for making it oh-so-vivid. Mmmm Mmmm...now I'll really look forward to that Kung Pao chicken I ordered for dinner. Thanx bunches. - -- -Bob rahvin@wam.umd.edu http://horatio.dorm.umd.edu *)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*) "What it is- I wonder do you know? - to be loved by someone beautiful." -Peter Carey ------------------------------ From: #Tori Mailing List Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:44:08 -0500 (EST) Subject: Pet Promo for Sale Hello, I've got a gold stamped promo copy of Pet's album for sale. I paid 8$ for it and am selling it for that plus shipping. Please reply personally if intersted. Roger +===========================================================+ |Roger Branstetter University of Florida | |http://grove.ufl.edu/~rbranste | |"If I cried me a river of all my confessions | |Would I drown in my shallow regret?" - Sarah McLachlan | |"If you know me so well then tell me which hand I use." | | - Tori Amos | +===========================================================+ ------------------------------ From: topher@france-techno.fr (Topher) Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 00:12:41 +0000 Subject: Somebody send me the Blue Skies lyrics !... ... please !! Thank you very much, Topher. ======================================= F r a n c e T e c h n o - topher@france-techno.fr - http://www.france-techno.fr - The Official site of F-Communications Records, Coda Magazine & Radio FG. Subscribe to our mailing list: france-techno-request@france-techno.fr Body of Message: subscribe france techno ------------------------------ From: MaLjaMiN Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 17:37:34 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: Pet Promo for Sale Since there've been a few mentions of Pet I might as well give my own opinion. Hope nobody will find it too off-subject. I'm a college radio dj so I've had a chance to hear their album as well as what they have on soundtracks and compilations. They're on the Crow II soundtrack, with a track that is also on the album (i think) called "Lil' Boots', and at least one other soundtrack. I'm not crazy about them, but they're growing on me. Actually a few things reminded me of Tori Amos, as different as they sound altogether.. the one that stands out is the lead singer's way of saying "girrrrl", or at least how she says it in Lil' Boots. When she screams, however, her voice tends to sound like that of Seven Mary Three, which I don't particularly care for. Her soft vocals are nice though The songs are generally dark, brooding, tending towards the currently forbidden "grunge" aspect of music. By this I mean unclean minor chords, and dark chord progressions, held out longer, for a slow, hard, guttural effect. I'm burned out on slow-hard-guttural which is probably why they're having to grow on me. Anyways there you have it and stuff. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= Josh Sutterfield Musician/DJ-Wannabe/Student/Biped Jester Shot Fluid MaLjaMiN joshu@umr.edu http://www.umr.edu/~joshu - --- The symphonies in my head shall not rest They are angry at my hands My inept hands ------------------------------ From: John Wolfe Date: Fri, 15 Nov 1996 19:10:06 -0500 Subject: Re: "god" was Re: Tori young At 01:08 PM 11/14/96 -0500, you wrote: >Tori is against, like many feminists (including myself) the male idea of >God. The Christian God and bible tends to leave out any part of a >feminine or sensual woman, leaving us only with the virgin. Tori is fond >of saying that she identifies best with Mary Magdeline (spelling?) who she >feels is a better role model for women. Now I feel much the same as, you, God isn't male of female. People (soceity (which is bad)) have created a male god. The christian god is referred to as male becuase they have no other better name for it. However, it was pointed out to me that there are many refrences in the bible that god could be a woman. In opposition, though I was tought that god was more masculine, and I've never read the bible. my, Philosophy class will do things to your mind. - -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= - -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- =B3"To Pele, to those who have brought me to Pele, to person (a=20 =B3particular faerie) and all non particular Faeries." =20 =B3Email-- jwolfe@1stresource.com =20 - -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D= - -=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D-=3D- ------------------------------ From: "Evil, eat my justice!" Date: Sat, 16 Nov 1996 01:00:44 EST Subject: cornflake girl/blood roses are you sure it's based on the Alice Walker book? Cornflake Girl i mean i'd always thought it was about mistrust between females, and the fragility and superficiality of bonds between them - unless of course - that's what the walker book is about, i'd always been more of a Morrison/Naylor fan myself, so i wouldn't know i was listening to cornflake girl and became happy that i have only two close female friends, less backstabbing (heh...i'm kidding) ~jordan~ratatouille strychanine~ ******************************************************************************** support the flower of women, say the word fuck --sonic.youth-- ******************************************************************************** ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V1 #232 *************************************