From: owner-precious-things-digest To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V1 #180 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, 20 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 180 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: 08/14/96 Pittsburgh Show Re: precious-things-digest V1 #179 Re:8/14/96 Pittsburgh Show Re: 08/14/96 Pittsburgh Show Re: precious-things-digest V1 #179 Re: 08/14/96 Pittsburgh Show ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "Sister Ray -- pogue mahone!" Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 18:32:24 -0100 Subject: Re: 08/14/96 Pittsburgh Show ** 17 Sep 96 - Jangelo448@aol.com: >It's not like she's making the shows any longer. [...] >At least Tori can try to approach the 2 hour mark. I wouldn't image >anyone complaining about her playing two hours instead of 90 mins. Maybe i would. Sometimes briefness is better. -Sis. ************************************************************ SISTER RAY *** url website: http://mediaport.org/~sisterra email: or delay of reply: two or three days (i'm very very busy, y'know) pgp key: on request *************************************************************************** They called me mad, and I called them mad, and damn them, they outvoted me. - --------------------------------------------------------- nathaniel lee --- ------------------------------ From: "J. Hustadt" Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:15:47 -0400 (EDT) Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V1 #179 I found the same thing with U2's zoo T.V tour. I knew the set inside out, I watched it on T.V. and I saw them twice during the year. It's all predictibility. As bono said "The hard thing is to make it look spontaneous". We should be happy that Tori changes her set all the time - - eventhough I don't buy the "which girls wanna come out" concept. bye. Jen. On Thu, 19 Sep 1996 owner-precious-things-digest@smoe.org wrote: > > precious-things-digest Thursday, 19 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 179 > > Today's Subjects: > ----------------- > precious-things-digest V1 #177 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > From: ariana@kbp.com > Date: Wed, 18 Sep 1996 19:08:58 -0500 > Subject: precious-things-digest V1 #177 > > PR>------------------------------ > > PR>------------------------------ > > PR>From: Jangelo448@aol.com > PR>Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 00:19:00 -0400 > PR>Subject: 08/14/96 Pittsburgh Show > > > PR>The show was good except my usual complaints..... A) She ruins Precious > PR>Things with her vocal 'gymnastics'. It was better on the UTP tour. B)Does > PR>she have to play MAA Gun _every_ show? She plays a varied set from show to > PR>show to 'keep it fresh' and I suppose to keep her sanity, too. But in every > PR>show there it is, MAA Gun. Sure, the song has it's 'message', but give it a > PR>rest! It makes her seem like such a martyr. She doesn't play her > PR>'signature' songs everynight, which is very good. MAA Gun is becoming tired > PR> After seeing her several times, It's like, "She could be playing song > PR>'xxxxx' here. I've heard this before." > > PR>It's not like she's making the shows any longer. Last tour she was playing > PR>90-100mins, this tour she's playing 90-100mins. I think she should get with > PR>it and give us more for our money. She has 3 albums an EP, and a lot of > PR>b-sides. Melissa Etheridge, Elton John and Bruce Springsteen play for OVER > PR>hours each show. At least Tori can try to approach the 2 hour mark. I > PR>wouldn't image anyone complaining about her playing two hours instead of 90 > PR>mins. > > I sort of agree with you. I have seen her 5 times so far. I found > myself completely bored with her when I saw her at the Jones Beach, LI, > NY show recently. I am tired of her doing MAAG but I feel maybe it's > like a religious thing for her to do for her fans and for herself. And > I feel that she's just becoming too predictable and stagged during her > shows. The little cornflake girl dance didn't really amuse me because > I saw a half way dance at the May NYC shows already. I don't like that > the encores are so obvious that they don't seem to be encores and no > one is really clapping for her to go back on stage. Maybe I am just > Tori out and need a break from her. :( > > > > ------------------------------ > > End of precious-things-digest V1 #179 > ************************************* > > ------------------------------ From: Charlie Poole Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 12:18:28 -0500 (EST) Subject: Re:8/14/96 Pittsburgh Show On Tue, 17 Sep 1996, Cindy Elder wrote: > >From: Jangelo448@aol.com > >Date: Tue, 17 Sep 1996 00:19:00 -0400 > >Subject: 08/14/96 Pittsburgh Show > > [critical comments and MAAG slam snipped] > How can you have any respect AT ALL for Tori and SAY THIS???? She sings > that song for HERSELF, to help herself continue recovery. SHE GOT RAPED! > Hello? This is the sickest thing I've ever heard from a "fan". > > Cindy Although your comments may be considered by some to be somewhat harsh I have to agree with you. Tori seems to understand that some of her fans are turned off by MAAG, because they may not have yet delt with their own abuse/rape, they might just dislike facing reality, or some other reason. But Tori sings that song not just for herself but for those in the audience who've had a similar experience. She's helping others to heal; not just herself. All you have to do is listen to all the "Thank you Tori" calls coming out of the audience to understand how liberating that song has been for many people. In Tori, Charlie - -- +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | C.W. Poole | "Charlie" | cpoole@indiana.edu | +-------------------+-----------------+--------------------------+ | To me happiness, true happiness is when you can really dance | | with sad. --Tori Amos | | I have spent a lifetime learning how to cry. --Janis Ian | *----------------------------------------------------------------* ------------------------------ From: Nintori Bob Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 13:38:25 -0400 Subject: Re: 08/14/96 Pittsburgh Show Sister Ray -- pogue mahone! wrote: > > ** 17 Sep 96 - Jangelo448@aol.com: > >It's not like she's making the shows any longer. > [...] > >At least Tori can try to approach the 2 hour mark. I wouldn't image > >anyone complaining about her playing two hours instead of 90 mins. > > Maybe i would. Sometimes briefness is better. -Sis. I'll go along with that. I've found that 2 hours without a break is tough as an audience member. You know the music is fantastic...but you still drift. - -- -Bob rahvin@wam.umd.edu http://www.glue.umd.edu/~ruiner *)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*) "you didn't hurt me nothing can hurt me you didn't hurt me nothing can stop me now" -Nine Inch Nails ------------------------------ From: torimorph@juno.com (Jaysen I Elsky) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:16:51 PST Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V1 #179 > We should be happy that Tori changes her set all the time even though I don't buy >the "which girls wanna come out" concept. Why? Why don't you buy that.... Other than those songs she has to play... like CALS and Precious Things, there is a strong spontaneity about her shows... What you need to do is see her two days in a row... It was two different worlds... And I do believe she channels these songs... I've channeled music myself... It's very different ------------------------------ From: torimorph@juno.com (Jaysen I Elsky) Date: Thu, 19 Sep 1996 15:19:24 PST Subject: Re: 08/14/96 Pittsburgh Show >I'll go along with that. I've found that 2 hours without a break is >tough as an audience member. You know the music is fantastic...but >you >still drift. I have yet to feel that... I'm going to see Tori show #4 in Miami and I have yet to leave without feeling completely sated. ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V1 #180 *************************************