From: owner-precious-things-digest To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V1 #171 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Monday, 9 September 1996 Volume 01 : Number 171 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: An article about Tori Amos [Fwd: Fascinating] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: justagurl@kktv.com Date: Sun, 8 Sep 1996 13:39:56 -0500 Subject: Re: An article about Tori Amos Date: Sat, 07 Sep 1996 19:55:35 -0700 From: Quarles To: Chelsea Hawk Um...perhaps I could send you the text of the Tori CD review from a recent "Stereo Review" (reviewing her latest)...then again, maybe not. It is EXACTLY this kind of self-important crap ( "I'm aware that I tackle belief systems in my work..") BULLSHIT! This "artist" doesn't DO SHIT! Has she ever been shot at in the heat of battle, as a soldier or fighter pilot would? Has she ever rescued a child from a burning building, as a firefighter would? Has she gone to the funeral of a fellow police officer, your partner, the one shot by a crazed crack addict, the friend you saw die? Has she worked two, three jobs, just to save enough money to send her kids to college? WHERE THE FUCK DOES THIS NITWIT GET OFF SAYING " The record goes to the depths of a relationship, if you've ever called a phone that's not ringing, you understand". Understand what? That she's a sanctimonious, intellectually conceited psuedo-artist who doesn't have a fucking CLUE as to what the real world is? And these morons who tattoo her name on their bodies? GODDAMN, no wonder the country is so screwed up. People take this crap seriously! Chelsea, Tori Amos is a FUCKING ENTERTAINER! Five years from today, no one will remember her, her music, or the pedantic slag of her pretentious intellect. And it's not just Tori Amos, it's all these so-called "artists", the David Byrnes, the Peter Gabriels, the Alanis Morrisetes, the whoever and whatevers, these people are MUSICIANS! That's all they do! PLAY MUSIC! If an asteroid struck the earth, who would re-build society? The engineers, the carpenters, the technicians, the plumbers, the scientists, the doctors, the nurses, THE REAL PEOPLE, that's who. Fucking musicians WOULD BE FOOD! Hey, don't get me wrong, I like a good tune now and then, but these people don't hold the secrets to the Universe. They're just musicians. THAT-IS-ALL. Tom ******************************* What does everyone think about this?? I think hes wrong.....I mean, its the same with Jewel. If he knew who she was, he'd be downing her too....I can't believe his ignorance. He doesn't understand about our connections with muscians. He think Tori Amos is a bullshitter. I say we write him and tell him WHY these artists mean something to us!!!!!!!!!! because until he hears someone other than "a naive 14 yr old" hes not going to understand. His name is Tom Quarles. His e mail address is violet13@fc.net.....write him. Tell him what you think. Chelsea "So I have these little unfufilled fantasies of putting arsenic in his teacup....we'd see who would be laughing then.....- if only he was the type to drink tea." Jewel Kilcher, 'Housewives Revenge' ------------------------------ From: Nintori Bob Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 21:15:26 -0400 Subject: [Fwd: Fascinating] This is a multi-part message in MIME format. - --------------396D36E8754D Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi guys, just thought you might like to see the little note I passed on to Tom. - -- -Bob rahvin@wam.umd.edu - --------------396D36E8754D Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Message-ID: <32336F6D.2099@wam.umd.edu> Date: Sun, 08 Sep 1996 21:14:21 -0400 From: Nintori Bob Reply-To: rahvin@wam.umd.edu Organization: GimpWorX X-Mailer: Mozilla 3.0Gold (Win95; I) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: violet13@fc.net Subject: Fascinating Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit "I like a good tune." Now, I understand your article is some attempt at flame-provocation, but your statement "I like a good tune now and then," is laughable. You surely can't expect people to take you seriously when you equate music with a candy bar. People like a good candy bar, but they sympathize with music. No...she hasn't lifted a hundred people out of a burning building with her bare hands- but I would dare to speculate that NEITHER HAVE YOU? On the other hand, have you ever set up a rape-victim crisis center? Made people feel better by just singing a "good tune"? I would dare to doubt that as well, since it seems the extent of your communication skills revolves around four-letter words. Art is not self-important by nature- critics are. - -- -Bob rahvin@wam.umd.edu *)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*)*) "you didn't hurt me nothing can hurt me you didn't hurt me nothing can stop me now" -Nine Inch Nails - --------------396D36E8754D-- ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V1 #171 *************************************