From: owner-precious-things-digest To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V1 #41 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Friday, 29 March 1996 Volume 01 : Number 041 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: Bells For Her Re: Beware the braindrain Desperate Seeking Detroit Info Tori Amos Covered on CD St Louis onsale date Detroit, MI Tori Tickets on sale Saturday! ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Richard Holmes Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:10:19 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Bells For Her Neile wrote: > Richard wrote: > > > Does anyone find "Bells for Her" to be one of the most moving and sad > > songs... hints of magic and its loss are the images which prance before my > > ears when I hear this. And the threat of this as being inevitable. Does > > anyone else feel this way about the song... > > Yes! It's my favourite song on UtP. I find it very affecting and I > can't pin down why--the haunting tune and lyrics just hit something in me > every time I hear it. I can't believe Tori did this in one take--and > then I can't imagine how anyone could put a song like that together other > than in one take--totally intuitively. > > Amazing & magical and very, very sad. I too am amazed to hear it was a one-take; if anyone knows more about how she did it, I'm eager to find out... - did she write down the lyrics and then formulate the song from them in one take? I can even imagine her "incubating" the poetry one night, and recording it the next day from memory, as some of the old poetry and stories were created in cultures where oral tradition was primary. - -Richard. \@/ Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) | \|/ "In the name of Annah the Allmaziful, the | Everliving, the Bringer of Plurabilities, haloed , , | , , be her eve, her singtime sung, her rill be run, ' ' ' ' ' unhemmed as it is uneven!" - James Joyce Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush / Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes / Dar Williams / Renaissance / Sheila Chandra / Laura Love / Jane Siberry / Fairport Convention / Kiva / Libana/ Danielle Dax / Dog Faced Hermans ------------------------------ From: Richard Holmes Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 08:59:58 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: Beware the braindrain A November Twinkle (carlgjf@mbox.vol.it) writes: > Hi my newfound friends, > This is my first message here, so I wish you a time of wonder. > Unfortunately I can send off something just once a week! So if > you already made up your mind about something a few days > ago... at times, truth echoes faintly in the deep wells of > Faerie, and it fears the rising tide. Well, I'm pretty late in responding; but I almost never "make up my mind"... it is constantly remaking itself over and over... why would truth fear the rising tide? or vice versa? > 1) Musicianship > > I don't think I care the least if Tori is or isn't more gifted > than Grieg or Rachmaninov, and I don't think _she_ cares a bit > either. Personally if _I_ were to wonder, before doing a > thing, whether my talent's up to it, I would have killed > myself at an early age. What I mean is that, basically, anyone > is the most gifted being at the most exhilarating job around: > being oneself. That is certainly a nice way to put it, Twinkle! Being oneself, however, is not as easy as it sounds... peeling away the multi-layered onion skins of masks that we've been taught to wear to survive in this society is a never-ending treat! > What's special about Tori is just a matter of being herself. > When I was small I could play Gershwin too, but I could never > write a Torisong, and personally now I feel no need to: I can > buy her records! Everyone of you guys could play Chopin > blindfolded if you had ten hours a day to practice, but I hope > you found something better to do. I think that we have here a bit of a paradox; it is good in retrospect to have spent long hours practicing, but one has to move forward and let the creativity come in. I've known so many technical experts who simply can *not* improvise on their instruments; I, on the other hand, improvise quite easily, although my technique leaves a lot to be desired at times (I still can't instantaneously produce whatever sound comes to mind! =8^) > I love Tori for what she is and what she reminds me to be; I > don't care about godly whims. Godly whims? > 2) Torispeech > > Are Torilyrics weird??! Ever read Bradbury, or Shakespeare, > or... Neil, maybe? There is not such thing as logic language. > Language is not logic, it's the realm of Faerie. aah, but not *all* language is the realm of the Faerie; only that which has those attributes which we can not name, and springs from the well of which we don't speak. [snip] > As a conclusion, the one of you guys who said that we should > all be composing is a genius. Well, it wasn't "one of us guys", it was Pauline Oliveros, a modern composer ("Crone Music", "Deep Listening"), who put forth this thought in her book, "Music For People" (actually, I'm trying to remember the title, but the whole book expounds upon this and other ideas). It was, however, *this* guy (me) who paraphrased her! And you're right, she is a genius (but as you implied, so are we all, if we'll just notice it). > See ya, > a November twinkle sing the song, dance the dance, dream the dark! - -Richard. \@/ Richard A. Holmes (rholmes@cs.stanford.edu) | \|/ "In the name of Annah the Allmaziful, the | Everliving, the Bringer of Plurabilities, haloed , , | , , be her eve, her singtime sung, her rill be run, ' ' ' ' ' unhemmed as it is uneven!" - James Joyce Loreena McKennitt / Kate Bush / Tori Amos / Katell Keineg / Happy Rhodes / Dar Williams / Renaissance / Sheila Chandra / Laura Love / Jane Siberry / Fairport Convention / Kiva / Libana/ Danielle Dax / Dog Faced Hermans ------------------------------ From: Tracy Sefl Date: Thu, 28 Mar 96 11:09:25 CST Subject: Desperate Seeking Detroit Info Greetings -- I live in Chicago, but for a variety of reasons, can't attend the Chicago tour dates (actually, I wouldn't want to anyway b/c I really dislike the chosen venue here). I'm planning on going to the Detroit show, as I'll be in Ann Arbor that weekend. I have zero idea about ticket specifics for the Detroit show, so if some Michicagn soul could please forward me any info that he or she may have, I would be so grateful! And of course, like everyone else, this is a time-sensitive request. Thanks. Tracy ------------------------------ From: mfgr@bart.nl Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:08:35 -0100 Subject: Tori Amos Covered on CD Hi, Just a small message to remind readers that in May a once only run of Tori Amos Covered on CD will be made. Tori Amos Covered was conducted in 1994/1995, giving Internetters a chance to record their own versions of Tori Amos songs. The result of this project is available on tape, and now a 16-track compilation has been made to release on CD. This once only release looks already set to be one of the rarest Tori Amos related records ever to be made. (For people who worry about these things: copyrights _will_ be paid for.) The price has been set to $36, which includes postage, packing and production of the CD's. People wanting a copy can e-mail to any of my addresses below. For more information about "Tori Covered" turn to http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/marcel/toriamos.htm on the World Wide Web. Thanks for your attention. ** Marcel F G Rijs - "Conan the librarian" ** Internet: mfgr@bart.nl ** CIS: 100276,2176 ** WWW: http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/marcel ** Hi Dear American Politicians! Can you say "Free speech for everyone"? ** Protect Free Speech Online -- http://www.cdt.org/ciec/ ------------------------------ From: joshu@umr.edu Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 16:49:22 -0600 (CST) Subject: St Louis onsale date Well I just got off the phone with powell symphonyin st louis, and they told me tickets would go on sale for tori on april 1 which is next monday. Thought someone might want to know.. -- Bye. du ub pq qjT " u_ u " Tjp pq du ub dM~W~Mb .d b. qT N^8_N Tp .d b. dM~W~Mb qM Mp dBbdBb TI T ^T IT dBbdBb qM Mp q p P T JBb _. ._ dBL P T q p . . . . ~TBbodBT TBbodBT~ . . . . `~` `~` Josh Sutterfield joshu@umr.edu http://www.umr.edu/~joshu ------------------------------ From: Don Harder Date: Thu, 28 Mar 1996 21:41:11 -0500 Subject: Detroit, MI Tori Tickets on sale Saturday! Tickets are on sale 10 am at all Ticketmaster outlets for the May 31 show at The Fox Theatre in Detroit Michigan. See you in line!!! Thought to think about ...................................................... : Liberate yourself today. Flirt with decadence. Retire the word 'should' : from your vocabulary. Be excessive -- take the last piece. Boast about : yourself. Savor the unknown. Embrace the absurd. : : Mourn the loss but never forget the memories that made the person : a living, breating creature. You are missed but not forgotten, Mike. _____ Don Harder Jr. -- Michigan, USA - drh@greatlakes.k12.mi.us ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V1 #41 ************************************