From: owner-precious-things-digest To: precious-things-digest@smoe.org Subject: precious-things-digest V1 #19 Reply-To: precious-things@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-precious-things-digest Precedence: bulk X-To-Unsubscribe: Send mail to "precious-things-digest-request@smoe.org" X-To-Unsubscribe: with "unsubscribe" as the body. precious-things-digest Wednesday, 6 March 1996 Volume 01 : Number 019 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: precious-things-digest V1 #18 Tori and Astral Projection? "Caught a Lite Sneeze" chorus... re Talula Re: "Caught a Lite Sneeze" chorus... Daemon Belches and YKTR winter instrumental & yktr & cals video & question... World Cafe Transcript winter instrumental & yktr & cals video & question... Tori, Newcastle City Hall, 5/3/1996. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: Kerry White Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 00:32:15 -0600 (CST) Subject: Re: precious-things-digest V1 #18 relation to YKTR? The cover doen't say that to me, and even if it did why would anyone categorize something w/out ever listening to it? Hardish Rock, but Heavy?? Anyone else bothered when eMTyVee and others refer to her as the Cornflake Girl? Don't these idiots listen to the lyrics?! Call her the Raisin Girl, if at all. KrW It was the least I could do! And never let it be said that I didn't do the least I could do. ------------------------------ From: eric@netvision.net.il (Tori's slaveboy) Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 11:45:55 +0200 Subject: Tori and Astral Projection? Hi! This is a hunch I've had for quite some time now... Methinks Tori has Astral Projections! (Or out-of-body-experiences for the uneducated masses). Tori practically made a whole song about it - Floating City. This song is really weird (I've seen some UFO connotations.. it's like her own little X-File). Note the chorus : 'Every night I wake (a.p's are usually done before sleeping or during sleeping (then they're called lucid dreaming, like that Northern Exposure episode) Take me away to your floating city (floating city = the astral plane, the collective of all fantasies in the world, sorta like a Holodeck) ... I see the LIGHT to your floating city (projectionists describe the moment of seperation from the body andentering into the astral plane a seeing a big white light (also seen when u die, BTW). And how's about Father Lucifer's grand ol' "Nothin's gonna stop me from FLOATING" (U float in da astral plane). I'm sure there r more, they just slipped outta my mind right now... Am I right or am i Wright? - Tori Amos eric@netvision.net.il http://www.netvision.net.il/php/eric ------------------------------ From: athol-brose Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 09:05:31 -0500 (EST) Subject: "Caught a Lite Sneeze" chorus... For whoever posted about not believing the chorus to CaLS begins "Building, tumbling down..." ... well, the closed captions (I love videos that have captioning) surely indicate that and it can be clearly heard if you listen to the song with headphones on. And it does make sense, in that building-a-love-and-then-having-it-collapse kind of sense. (Now playing: Caught a Lite Sneeze, what else? :) - -- r. n. dominick -- cinnamon@one.net -- http://w3.one.net/~cinnamon/ <*> ./~ give me walking shoes, feathered arms... ./~ ------------------------------ From: LOUIE Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 11:06:12 -0500 (EST) Subject: re "never was a cornflake girl" yes, that does bother me very much when people call her cornflake girl. I could have something to do with her tour poster that says tori amos at the top and cornflake girl at the bottom. Everyone who sees it in my room calls her cornflake girl not realizing it is just promoting the song, not calling her a cornflake girl. the dream king now playing: take to the sky ------------------------------ From: abbe@MIT.EDU Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 13:55:46 -0500 Subject: Talula I didn't think Talula is supposed to be talking to Eric's new girlfriend. I can vaguely see what meth said about Talula being the girl making the journey in BfP, the main character of the story the album tells, or whatever (sigh..i should listen to the World Cafe thing somehow...) but I always thought Talula was someone else... either metaphorically or actually, she'a a child in Tori's womb. My scattered thoughts on this... congratulate you sounds like what would be said to a possibly expectant father or mother.. double tongue, balancing cake and bread both convey this sense of indecision, saying one thing, wanting another, not sure what's really going on. "say goodbye to a glitter girl" is really striking to me. Maybe it's also the sound of the harpsichord in the background, fading in and out like little sparkles of glitter...it reinforces the lyric really well. She's a glitter girl because she's just a tiny speck, not quite fully there yet, flickering on and off, maybe she'll get to exist. The chorus is sort of echoing this sense of being unsure if she's really there or not, and whether Tori (ie, the mother..) wants her to be there or not. You don't want to lose her (you think she should live) but she must be worth losing if it is worth something (there's something larger saying that maybe it's better she should be lost.) Say goodbye to the old world - this is changing everything, we can't go on living as if this hasn't happened, it is going to change us no matter what we do. the part about Anne Boleyn is also about this decision of whether to have a child or not, definitely - she wanted to be a couple, just 1 + 1 is 2, but henry wanted them to have a child (1 + 1 is 3) and when she didn't he had her killed, that's how this used to be settled. The last part where it gets more and more chaotic tosses around more thoughts and confusions: has it already happened or not, what does she reallyw ant to do. "do you know what i have done" - that's pretty much just guilt. "what you want is in the blood" - this whole idea of sharing your blood with your child, it also has echoes of sex and the loss of virginity. The thing about big bird, I know this is really out there, but it makes me think of the fishing line as the line leading into the future and there's big bird representing this future of having a child, watching sesame street, trying to pull her in towards this future before she's decided and yanking really hard. "i got my rape hat on honey but I always could accessorize" sort of falls back to the "senators" line as well, I don't think this child is a result of rape, necessarily, but in thinking about what she wants to do, in all the confusion, she's thinking about all the other possibilities, drawing in some of the stuff about law, thinking about how she'd feel if it was some rapist's child, thinking about what should be allowed, and being really upset and bitter. and finally conculding that it's in god's hand's, but I don't know who the father is draws back to just piling more conflict on and leaving the whole thing sort of unresolved.. she says let god decide, something will come of this, but she can't stick to this line of thought for more than a line without coming back again to "i don't know who the father is".. needing to have more to worry about, more thoughts about this to spin chaotically in her head... well, there was about as much chaos in my description as in the lyrics themselves. whoops. thoughts, anyone? - -abbe ------------------------------ From: The Mermaid Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 12:31:31 -0800 (PST) Subject: Re: "Caught a Lite Sneeze" chorus... On Tue, 5 Mar 1996, athol-brose wrote: > For whoever posted about not believing the chorus to CaLS begins > "Building, tumbling down..." ... well, the closed captions (I love > videos that have captioning) surely indicate that and it can be > clearly heard if you listen to the song with headphones on. And it > does make sense, in that building-a-love-and-then-having-it-collapse > kind of sense. > Uh ..... yup. While some of the lyrics in the BfP booklet are listed incorrectly (probably cus tori does A LOT of ad lib in her music), the "Building, Tumbling down" bit IS correct. -- The Mermaid ------------------------------ From: "Mike Harris" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:01:38 GMT-5 Subject: Daemon Belches and YKTR ------------------------------ From: Sister Ray Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 23:22:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: winter instrumental & yktr & cals video & question... ::: Does anyone of you know whether Ms Amos has recorded an instrumental version of Winter? Or is there a bootleg featuring a version like that? ::: I've seen some ppl posting about You Kan't Tori Read?, so i guess some of you own this record. Could someone of you make me a copy of it? I will pay you the tape & postage. ** On 4 Mar 96, LOUIE wrote: >Has anyone seen Tori's video for CALS yet? I haven't herd much talk >about it on here. Its amazing, actually worth watching Mtv for. >Definatly something to check out. ::: No, i don't think it's a special, perfect video. It doesn't add a lot (perhaps nothing) to the song. It's just that if you want to make it you need to make a video. so that television stations can promote you. Some, but it aren't many, musicians make of their video something which really ads something to their music. In the video for Caught A Lite Sneeze many shots are beautifull, but there's no relation between the song and them. Or at least, not clearly. Or at least, not in my opinion. ** On 29 Feb 96, Tori Lover wrote: >My opinion on Boys For Pele? I *really* like it. It's the most >musically experimental in my opinion so far. I also like how she >didn't censor this album. I've heard so many complaints about how >it's disturbing and too long and blah blah blah. I think it's a nice >length and disturbing doesn't always mean bad. Not all music should >be comfortable to listen to. ::: Uuuh?! A little and true question, i'm really curious for the answer. Why shouldn't music always be comfortable to listen too? Maybe you should email me privatelly because others could say this would be off topic... ::: Take care. Sis. ********************************************************************* SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SCENE! - --------------------------------------------------------------------- email: sisterra@pi.net Sister Ray Headqtrs. or email: sisterra@mediaport.org (<20kB) url homepage: http://mediaport.org/~sisterra - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "First came fire, then came light Then came feeling, then cam sight." - Lou Reed to Sterling Morrison ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: "Mike Harris" Date: Tue, 5 Mar 1996 18:11:46 GMT-5 Subject: World Cafe Transcript ------------------------------ From: Sister Ray Date: Tue, 05 Mar 1996 23:22:45 +0100 (CET) Subject: winter instrumental & yktr & cals video & question... : :: Hi! ::: Does anyone of you know whether Ms Amos has recorded an instrumental version of Winter? Or is there a bootleg featuring a version like that? ::: I've seen some ppl posting about You Kan't Tori Read?, so i guess some of you own this record. Could someone of you make me a copy of it? I will pay you the tape & postage. ** On 4 Mar 96, LOUIE wrote: >Has anyone seen Tori's video for CALS yet? I haven't herd much talk >about it on here. Its amazing, actually worth watching Mtv for. >Definatly something to check out. ::: No, i don't think it's a special, perfect video. It doesn't add a lot (perhaps nothing) to the song. It's just that if you want to make it you need to make a video. so that television stations can promote you. Some, but it aren't many, musicians make of their video something which really ads something to their music. In the video for Caught A Lite Sneeze many shots are beautifull, but there's no relation between the song and them. Or at least, not clearly. Or at least, not in my opinion. ** On 29 Feb 96, Tori Lover wrote: >My opinion on Boys For Pele? I *really* like it. It's the most >musically experimental in my opinion so far. I also like how she >didn't censor this album. I've heard so many complaints about how >it's disturbing and too long and blah blah blah. I think it's a nice >length and disturbing doesn't always mean bad. Not all music should >be comfortable to listen to. ::: Uuuh?! A little and true question, i'm really curious for the answer. Why shouldn't music always be comfortable to listen too? Maybe you should email me privatelly because others could say this would be off topic... ::: Take care. Sis. ********************************************************************* SUPPORT YOUR LOCAL SCENE! - --------------------------------------------------------------------- email: sisterra@pi.net Sister Ray Headqtrs. or email: sisterra@mediaport.org (<20kB) url homepage: http://mediaport.org/~sisterra - --------------------------------------------------------------------- "First came fire, then came light Then came feeling, then cam sight." - Lou Reed to Sterling Morrison ********************************************************************* ------------------------------ From: Grendel The Unprepared Date: Wed, 6 Mar 1996 00:21:56 +0000 (GMT) Subject: Tori, Newcastle City Hall, 5/3/1996. Oh God. This is a seriously widely-distributed message, but I just have to tell everyone about the best night of my life - tonight. The support, Willy Porter, I was sceptical of, because from what I'd heard he wasn't too hot, but by the middle of his first song I'd been converted. He's not a great singer, being in the Joe Cocker/Micheal Bolton growl group, but what a guitarist! He made his single acoustic sound like about twelve different guitars. His little band of bass/drums then came on, and he treated us to a few finely crafted pop songs of Crowded House proportions. The funniest bit was when he played a version of the Jackson Five's "I want you back", alone on acoustic and in a hilarious falsetto, dedicating it to Mikey's past glories in the wake of Jarvis Cocker's Brit Award exploits. Lastly he performed an instrumental version of Dire Strait's Why Worry, being in Newcastle and all that. Then, about 20 minutes of Led Zeppelin later, on came Tori to a rapturous applause. She looked gorgeous in a pink/purple paisley top (I think) and a darker pair of the trousers she wears on the cover of Caught A Lite Sneeze. She was obviously nervous as she started to play "Beauty Queen/Horses", with her breathy vocals showing the signs of stress, but as Horses began, you could just tell the beauty was coming through in waves. The exact order of the songs has left me somewhere in the madness of tonight, but I'm sure Helen may be able to supply more exact information (Helen?). After the second song, she began her convo with the audience, saying how great it was to come to Newcastle because we're not English, we're not Scottish ('any dumb fuck knows that'), we're Geordies(!), to which the American got a suprised round of applause (I suppose her Northern boyfriend has been teaching her the regional differences in England!). Her set included beautiful versions of Bells For Her, Little Amsterdam, Not The Red Baron, Precious Things (with a spectacular primal scream when she sang "Tucked inside the heart of every nice gi-rrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrl" which lasted for minutes it seemed), and some numbers featured Steve Caton on guitar, doing lots of etherial stuff, and introducing "Cornflake Girl" on the acoustic, towards the end of which a string broke and he had to give up, prompting Tori to improvise "Rabbit, where'd you put the strains, girl?"! Icicle took it's usual pace, without the long introduction this time, and I SWEAR BLIND that as she was singing it (and I was mouthing the words by reflex), she stared straight at me for a minute or so. It felt right somehow! The final song in the main set was a beautiful and (naturally) haunting a cappella Me And A Gun, back on she bounced with my favourite, favourite Tori song of all, Silent All These Years. I've heard it so many times before but tonight a lump appeared in my throat and everything became unimportant except this girl on stage singing the most beautiful song ever written to me and me alone. If that sounds melodramatic, that's what I went for. "Hey Jupiter", the very last song, was played on the harmonium (summoned by Tori with 'can you bring on another of my friends?'), which really grabbed my throat until the second verse where she kindly forgot the words.. she's only human, after all. ;) Well, that's all I've the energy to say right now. Thanks for listening. You yanks are in for something else in the spring. :) Paul :) ============================================================================ "The panic seeps through bloodstained floors as Grendel stalks the night" - ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- St Aidan's College, University Of Durham. http://www.dur.ac.uk/~d550du ============================================================================ ------------------------------ End of precious-things-digest V1 #19 ************************************