From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V5 #8 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Tuesday, January 18 2005 Volume 05 : Number 008 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] Peices of Australian booksellers [icecreamvampire Subject: [oztori] Peices of Australian booksellers As a former buyer & special orders manager at Dymocks main store I'll tell you quickly how it works. A publisher will print it o/s, but a local supplier who has the rights to distribute the book will ship it in. It's cheaper to do things this way. A very small percentage of mass market books (excluding text books & study guides) are still actually printed in Australia however. Outside of the university or specialist/ boutique publishers no one really does. Large suppliers have such regular shipments that they can have the rights of indent (overseas) titles for their backlists (regularly selling previously released books) and only import 1/2 dozen copies a year at a bookseller's request and it still be financially viable. Thats not to mention their regular backlist titles they ship automatically in from overseas that they are sure they can sell & want on hand all the time. Tori's title is an expensive frontlist (new) title in hardcover for a very limited audience. It makes no sense to bring in something like that! It won't cost Ms Amos a penny to have it out here so she'd probably be quite pleased if it was released outside the US. She gets no say in the matter though & were only a very small bleep on the radar so whether we get it or not even register in her world. She will by the way, make next to no money anywhere from the sales of this book. Sadly you have to be Rowling or Grisham to make large amounts of money (7- 10%). If there is a paperback edition at a lower price point & the book proves popular overseas, & the supplier gets requests from local booksellers they may change thier minds. Considering some of the other crud musical biographies gracing our shelves it isn't impossable. However the supplier involved was talking to me as if I had beamed down from Mars for being interested in whether they'd pick up this book so chances are really bad it will ever make it here through local channels. Comming from an overseas wholesaler means the bookseller can't return the item if it doesn't sell, so the store will be an exception if they actually carry amongst their normal stock. My understanding is specialist record stores are different in this respect since nearly all of thier titles usually come from a single wholesaller o/s. Utopia Records & Dymocks Mainstore both confirmed for me non credit card people who want it they are special ordering on request. ***************************************************************************************************************************** I am garlic personified. Garlic & extra virgin olive oil. Garlic is garlic. You don't want it in icecream, but you definately want it when there are vamipres around. ***************************************************************************************************************************** - --------------------------------- Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! Movies. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 23:29:59 +1000 From: Zac Ariel Subject: Re: [oztori] my unneeded TBK review (Pt 1) Tell me Julian ... how does one get their hands on the album? *still here, just lurking* ~ z. Julian P wrote: > Blah, my TBK "review" must have been too long, since > it doesn't seem to have made it to the list ... I'll > break it down into 3 parts: > > [re-posted:] *snip review* ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 17 Jan 2005 20:25:36 -0800 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [oztori] my unneeded TBK review (Pt 1) On 17 Jan 2005, at 05:29, Zac Ariel wrote: > Tell me Julian ... how does one get their hands on the album? > *still here, just lurking* Well, not that I'm Julian, but ... It's been posted to alt.binaries.tori-amos. Some folks have put them up on their home servers, and links to these have been posted to several of the web Tori communities, so a bit of browsing around will probably turn up links (although, as we saw when Nathan posted links recently, they come and go quite quickly). Now that SuprNova.org is dead, I'm not sure what good BitTorrent sites exist. I found ones from which I can download television shows, but I haven't looked for replacement sites for warez or music. But I'd be highly surprised if it hasn't shown up on whatever BT sites are out there now. If you have a Gmail account (or something else that will happily accept 19 large attachments), you can ask nicely for someone to mail them to you. And if you need a Gmail account, you can ask nicely for an invitation and then ask for someone to mail them to you. /nm ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2005 15:34:04 +1100 From: "Gav Ross" Subject: Re: [oztori] my unneeded TBK review (Pt 1) if anyone in Melbourne wants to listen I'll be playing 3 or 4 tracks from the record tonight on my show. 102.7FM RRR streaming realaudio at www.rrr.org.au Tue Jan 18th 8-10pm - ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nadyne Mielke" To: Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 3:25 PM Subject: Re: [oztori] my unneeded TBK review (Pt 1) > On 17 Jan 2005, at 05:29, Zac Ariel wrote: > >> Tell me Julian ... how does one get their hands on the album? >> *still here, just lurking* > > Well, not that I'm Julian, but ... > > It's been posted to alt.binaries.tori-amos. Some folks have put them up > on their home servers, and links to these have been posted to several of > the web Tori communities, so a bit of browsing around will probably turn > up links (although, as we saw when Nathan posted links recently, they come > and go quite quickly). > > Now that SuprNova.org is dead, I'm not sure what good BitTorrent sites > exist. I found ones from which I can download television shows, but I > haven't looked for replacement sites for warez or music. But I'd be > highly surprised if it hasn't shown up on whatever BT sites are out there > now. > > If you have a Gmail account (or something else that will happily accept 19 > large attachments), you can ask nicely for someone to mail them to you. > And if you need a Gmail account, you can ask nicely for an invitation and > then ask for someone to mail them to you. > > /nm ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V5 #8 **************************