From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V4 #23 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Tuesday, February 24 2004 Volume 04 : Number 023 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] RE: oztori-digest V4 #22 ["cath *" ] Re: [oztori] TOAL [Nathan "®" ] [oztori] TVAB would have gone to #1 here if Target was included on ARIAnet (the computerised system used to track sales across Austraya) [] Re: [oztori] TOAL [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] TVAB would have gone to #1 and back [AndrewR Subject: [oztori] RE: oztori-digest V4 #22 >>>How many people here HAVE seen Tori live - I never have. *raises hand* like everyone else - had to go to london to do it. absolutely worth it though :) _________________________________________________________________ E-mail just got a whole lot better. New ninemsn Premium. Click here http://ninemsn.com.au/premium/landing.asp ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:08:16 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] TOAL Andrew was it *really* necessary to leave all of that long email attached following your 2 line reply? If that doesn't make you take heed of the msg, maybe this will: - --- AndrewR wrote: > At 09:34 AM 24/02/2004, Julian P wrote: > > Baker Baker is much more > >heartbreaking with strings. > > > Is THAT what makes TOAL's BB better than the > original - included strings?? > > > >* Most of her most 'accessible' songs are there ... > >although not my favourite three songs on ftch, > Spark, > >Jackie's Strength and Playboy Mommy are the FIRST > >three songs that I liked on that album. The rest > took > >their time. Ditto God, CFG and Baker Baker on UTP. > Mr > >Zebra was even my first favourite on BFP. Perhaps > the > >collection should have been touted as "Tales of a > >Librarian: The Least Off-Putting Songs of Tori > Amos". > >But then "A Tori Amos Collection" isn't promising > to > >be a greatest hits anyway ... and when you have an > >artist who hasn't really had much in the way of a > >'hit' (other than arguably PW, Spark and CFG, which > >are all on there), then a 'palatable' collection > may > >be a good alternative. > > > >* The album actually flows well (surprisingly!!). > It > >has more of an album feel than a GH which often > feels > >all over the place. Also, it's a good primer for > who > >Tori is now ... which is both a good and a bad > thing. > > > >Okay, NOW the AGAINST: > > > >* No CALS. And no wilder tracks. Swirl or Hotel or > i i > >e e e would have been nice. One track to show that > >Tori wasn't always 'something safe for the picture > >frame'. > > > >* The packaging is a little offputting ... I don't > >mind it, but it would not convince me to pick it up > >were I not already a fan. > > > >* Some of the 'remixes' (sic) are for the worse ... > >Spark most notably. > > > >* It does seem to be more of a prospective album > than > >a retrospective ... as if Tori is trying to rewrite > >her history to fit what she is 'now'. That's a good > >AND a bad thing, hence listing it twice. > > > >Can't think of any more. > > > >Discuss! > > > >J > > > >===== > >___________________________ > > > >www.livejournal.com/~blade_to_ice > > > >___________________________ > > > >the needle is hot and my cells cannot feed > >and you obtained still that beauty that drags the > feet > >that I hide it well ernestine of sister > >but I obtained still that > >beauty that drags the feet > > > >... > > > >you are dull to the mountain surpasses > >I say that the thin legs would be able to utilize > the sun > >but now desire for my better impression > >of my better one dickinson of angie > > > >Tori - To Spanish and Back > >____________________________ > > > >Find local movie times and trailers on Yahoo! > Movies. > >http://au.movies.yahoo.com ===== "Possessed she was, ashamed and unexpressed she was With a cross upon her chest she was Oppressed, she had transgressed She knew she had her mother's soul. Enraged she was, in a funnel cage she was You never really spared the rot, but still you spoiled this child I'm lying here, I'm running wild. I dream I hear the angels sing around me But closing time is not easy on a Friday. Oh lord may it be soon, come and get me Oh I'm so sick and tired, don't forget me" - 'Suppressed Trilogy', Siobhan Fahey. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:10:42 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] TVAB would have gone to #1 here if Target was included on ARIAnet (the computerised system used to track sales across Austraya) AndrewR wrote: > LOL - you could have made SOME sort of scene!! :) > You could have brought up > 20 other albums from different sections - placed > them on the couunter and > then just bought Tori? :) But he was buying Ani. > 101 ways to piss off smug record store employees. > > They're the comic-book store guys of the music world > :) Hyeh. Or you could just buy in K-Mart or Target where there's a high probability the person working behind the counter has no clue about music & therefore won't 'judge' you on it (except maybe approve if you buy Celine Dion or Dido. [FYI, a gal I usedta go to high school wif worked in Target's muzak section here in '99... and said they sold out of their copies of TVAB!!!] > But said (well snipped) desk-jerks wouldn't bat an > eyelid at a > pseudo-goth-girl wearing a marylin manson t-shirt > buying "so fresh 1998" or > what ever I saw her perusing. hyeh. I did also feel embarrassed buying Kate Bush's "Lionheart" (the pic on the back cover [and the front for that matter, but it's more 'discreet'] is so kitch imo) & TOAL for the couldn't-look-more-camp-if-it-tried artwork. > But that was an expensive digipack that was THE SAME > as the album. Yes, but that was imported str8 from the US of A, Andrew. The local equivalent was the CD & DVD in a single-sized jewel case. > The Box > with SW was brought in from the US... you cant tell > me there was a separate > plant making the 'trinkets'. Yes I'm not disputing you here. Did anyone outside of faerie-land actually care for their 'trinket'? (or indeed the DVD which I've L@@ked at twice). > Maybe no one KNEW the album was out - I mean look at > the number of posters > that were around for SLG compared to those for SW?? "But Epic were doing such a great job compared to Atlanic, because they paid radio stations to play ASF in the US". > and ZERO posters in stores for TOAL. If you were not a fan though, you'd have to look twice at that poster to recognise it as Tori. > Plus she doesn't even make her own videos anymore :) > See the non-existant > Taxi-Ride... oh WHY wasn't that released!?! Would > have been a GREAT single. Because her career has been US-based since 1996, and singles 'aren't the done thing' there anymore. n. ===== "Possessed she was, ashamed and unexpressed she was With a cross upon her chest she was Oppressed, she had transgressed She knew she had her mother's soul. Enraged she was, in a funnel cage she was You never really spared the rot, but still you spoiled this child I'm lying here, I'm running wild. I dream I hear the angels sing around me But closing time is not easy on a Friday. Oh lord may it be soon, come and get me Oh I'm so sick and tired, don't forget me" - 'Suppressed Trilogy', Siobhan Fahey. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:20:58 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] TOAL At 04:08 PM 24/02/2004, Nathan =?UNKNOWN?B?rg==?= wrote: >Andrew was it *really* necessary to leave all of that >long email attached following your 2 line reply? If >that doesn't make you take heed of the msg, maybe this >will: >--- AndrewR wrote: > > At 09:34 AM 24/02/2004, Julian P wrote: > > > Baker Baker is much more > > >heartbreaking with strings. > > > > > > Is THAT what makes TOAL's BB better than the > > original - included strings?? Well - people FORGET. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 24 Feb 2004 16:24:44 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] TVAB would have gone to #1 and back At 04:10 PM 24/02/2004, Nathan =?UNKNOWN?B?rg==?= wrote: >AndrewR wrote: > But that was an expensive digipack that was THE SAME > as the album. >Yes, but that was imported str8 from the US of A, >Andrew. The local equivalent was the CD & DVD in a >single-sized jewel case. I think wires are crossed - there I was talking about TVaB > > The Box > > with SW was brought in from the US... you cant tell > > me there was a separate > > plant making the 'trinkets'. > >Yes I'm not disputing you here. Did anyone outside of >faerie-land actually care for their 'trinket'? (or >indeed the DVD which I've L@@ked at twice). I haven't opened the SW box. Maybe I could bury it in a time capsule. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 23 Feb 2004 22:34:23 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] queer as a $3 bill... (and ben!) - aka, 'will give SW shrinkwrapped box for same price as what YKTR was probably going for in 1988' AndrewR wrote: > I think wires are crossed - there I was talking > about TVaB OH... NOW IHWYS! > I haven't opened the SW box. Maybe I could bury it > in a time capsule. Hahahah... I have a sealed one too. Although it's the UK one which doesn't come with all of the polaroids (it has something like 4 instead of 16) and (gasp!) NO TRINKET! If anyone wants it, it's going for $2 including p&p ;) Nah, I'm not that generous... though I'll consider $3. n. ===== "Possessed she was, ashamed and unexpressed she was With a cross upon her chest she was Oppressed, she had transgressed She knew she had her mother's soul. Enraged she was, in a funnel cage she was You never really spared the rot, but still you spoiled this child I'm lying here, I'm running wild. I dream I hear the angels sing around me But closing time is not easy on a Friday. Oh lord may it be soon, come and get me Oh I'm so sick and tired, don't forget me" - 'Suppressed Trilogy', Siobhan Fahey. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. http://antispam.yahoo.com/tools ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V4 #23 ***************************