From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V3 #281 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Monday, November 24 2003 Volume 03 : Number 281 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] TOAL cover [AndrewR ] [oztori] TOAL rockets into the UK album charts at number... [Nathan "®" <] [oztori] To give some 'perspective' on how poorly TOAL has done in the UK... [Nathan "®" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 18:55:38 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] TOAL cover I was just looking at a pic of the TOAL cover... and after last night I realise again Tori looks/copies Cate Blanchette!! Charlotte Grey was on Showtime last night - and there is this whole Tori/Cate resemblence thing going on - 'specially after The Shipping News. ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:31:07 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] TOAL rockets into the UK album charts at number... 74. LMFAO. "Oh dear god"... I think this is a 'wake up call' to Mrs Hawley that - if you virtually neglect the world-outside-of-America since 1998, your international career will start to falter. Given that most UK chart entries reach their highest postion on debut, this is extremely poor. Compare her previous UK albums chart debuts: LE - #15 (peaked at #14) UTP - #1 BFP - #2 FTCH - #6 TVAB - #22 SLG - #16 SW - #26 I think this also sends a message to Tori about her dubious choice of tracks for this 'collection' - any casual fan (and that's who 'best ofs' are mainly for) looking at it in a store (and *gasp* some promotion actually WAS done this time in the UK) would look at the back and think "WTF is this? I don't know most of this stuff? CALS/Hey Jupiter/etc are not there". Although apparently only the single disc version of TOAL was available in the UK last week, the CD/DVD one comes out this week (a cynical attempt by record company to make fans buy it twice? - only it will fail dismally). Although Tori's career isn't really based on 'hits', and she could probably care less about it faltering in the UK if it does ok in God's Favourite Cunt'ry (although.. *bites knuckle* I wouldn't count on it). BUT... if she wants to keep that Prada shoes fetish going... she better WAKE UP TO HERSELF pretty soon. Nathan. ===== "You thought that I'd be stressed without you - But I'm chillin' You thought I wouldn't sell without you - Sold 9 million" "I'm not gon blast you on the radio (I'm better than that) I'm not gon lie on you and your family (I'm better than that) I'm not gon hate on you in the magazines (I'm better than that) I'm not gon compromise my Christianity (I'm better than that) You know I'm not gon diss you on the internet Cause my mama taught me better than that" - - 'Survivor', Destiny's Child. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 21:39:14 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] To give some 'perspective' on how poorly TOAL has done in the UK... Debuts above it this week: * 1 Michael Jackson - Number Ones [HOW?! Surely everyone who wants the songs on this has them already... Plus he already had another greatest hits "HiSTORY" in 1995.. and he's had like 2 hits since then.. not to mention the latest "horrible, horrible" allegations against him... WHO is buying this?!] * 2 Busted - A Present For Everyone * 4 Red Hot Chili Peppers - Greatest Hits * 6 Kylie Minogue - Body Language [this was a shock.. new Kylie album debuts lower than compilations from MJ & RHCP... Who woulda thunk it? A similar 'wake up call' to Ms Minogue] * 7 Beatles - Let It Be: Naked [how many times can their fans keep buying collections of the same stuff?] * 13 G Unit - Beg For Mercy [who?] * 14 Britney Spears - In The Zone * 21 Ronan Keating - Turn It On * 22 Blink 182 - Blink 182 [LOL @ above 3] * 37 Blazin Squad - Now Or Never * 38 Cliff Richard - Cliff At Christmas [lmao @ CLIFF RICHARD Xmas album does better than Tori's first best of!!] * 39 Jools Holland - Small World Big Band 3 * 40 Jay-Z - The Black Album * 44 Status Quo - Riffs * 66 Marti Pellow - Between The Covers [Status Quo & Marti Pellow (former Wet Wet Wet singer) are more popular than Tori!] * 74 Tori Amos - Tales of a Librarian [hyeh] Nathan. ===== "You thought that I'd be stressed without you - But I'm chillin' You thought I wouldn't sell without you - Sold 9 million" "I'm not gon blast you on the radio (I'm better than that) I'm not gon lie on you and your family (I'm better than that) I'm not gon hate on you in the magazines (I'm better than that) I'm not gon compromise my Christianity (I'm better than that) You know I'm not gon diss you on the internet Cause my mama taught me better than that" - - 'Survivor', Destiny's Child. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:26:07 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] [uktori] "Cliff wins heated chart battle against Tori!" - EXCLUSIVE! NOVEMBER 24, 2003: SIR Cliff Richard, hit singer of... er, a few songs your mom would like if you're now aged over 25, has WON the fierce chart battle waged against him by US songstress, Tori Amos - er, 'famous' for a few songs your daughter might like if she's a depressed lesbian/sexual assualt survivor (or that your mom might too like, if she gave her latest album of original material, Scarlet's Walk, a whirl). Landing a whopping 36 places higher than Tori on the charts, Cliff's Xmas song collection, "Cliff At Christmas" crashes straight into the charts at the dizzy heights of #38. Tori, on the other hand, has had to make do with the 'wuthering' heights of #74 (the age in years she probably looked before the heavy airbrushing on the "Tales of a Librarian" sleeve; and also the age at which one would expect her to want to wear the gear she has somehow considered photo-shoot worthy on the cover). Once quoted for saying "Musically, I always allow myself to jump off cliffs... To me, this album [1996's Boys For Pele] sounds like the biggest Cliff yet", it is perhaps ironic now that her collection of 'biggest' songs couldn't topple THIS 'Cliff' (Richard). But rather than being a true collection of hits, the showing-ever-increasing-signs-of-insanity/stupidity Amos has rather compiled an album of forgotten 90-second album-track ditties and watered-down 'reconditioned' versions of once angst-ridden 'hits'; wrapped up in a gimmicky package based around a similarly gimmicky 'concept' (so silly that we can't even remember what it is - though rest-assured, your cousin who just scraped into 1st year arts at the least prestigious university in the country could come up with better). It seems that the more honest, no-pretence, approach of Cliff has paid off - by merely presenting his songs as they are: nothing more than a few bland, inoffensive, forgettable songs your mother will like over the Xmas break, and then (we hope!) will forget about them (Tori, take note!). Perhaps it comes as little surprise that Amos's career has faltered on this side of the Atlantic (ironically it has also faltered on this side of 'leaving' [read: 'being dropped from'] Atlantic [Records] - Tori has since joined Sony - the label of Celine Dion and Michael Bolton) - as she has all but ignored it following a handful of shows on the "Plugged '98" tour. To Cliff's credit, however, he has similarly done minimal promotion during this time - and hence it cannot be argued this his album was more popular merely because of this. Have people finally tired of Tori's once-passionate music which has now been watered-down for easy-listening consumption? Or did they just wake up to themselves & realise that Kate (Bush) did it first; and did it better. In any case, supposed now "librarian" Amos had better take heed: the time for an actual DECENT, non gimmicky, non ridiculous 'concept', non middle-of-the-road production values, non-'political' album from you is long OVERDUE. Your fan-base is fining you 1000 fans a day for your lateness in delivering them this. ===== "You thought that I'd be stressed without you - But I'm chillin' You thought I wouldn't sell without you - Sold 9 million" "I'm not gon blast you on the radio (I'm better than that) I'm not gon lie on you and your family (I'm better than that) I'm not gon hate on you in the magazines (I'm better than that) I'm not gon compromise my Christianity (I'm better than that) You know I'm not gon diss you on the internet Cause my mama taught me better than that" - - 'Survivor', Destiny's Child. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 24 Nov 2003 17:48:31 +1100 From: Jonceski Jasmina Subject: [oztori] tori in telegraph From yesterday's Sunday Telegraph. Bookish Life NOW living in Cornwall with her partner and their three-year old child, quirky US singer-songwriter Tori Amos seems to have settled quietly and happily into a very non-celebrity lifestyle. And last week, she celebrated by releasing a "best of" album, Tales Of A Librarian. Amos said she had chosen the songs for this album because they chronicled her life. Tales Of A Librarian was "an autobiography", she said on the phone from Cornwall. "Different things happened to her", she said, referring to herself in the third person, "and in that way she saw the world. The she moved to London." Asked why she moved out to London, Amos said it was the choce of her spouse, MArk, who is British. "There are very few distractions in Cornwall, and the people are beyond any group of people I've ever met," she said. "Their loyalty is something I haven't really seen before. "When I lived in London, I loved the different types of people and the different cultures, and sometimes I miss that. "But they come down and visit me here - and I think they like it." *** I imagine this is left wide open for commentary by Nathan. Jas *** Gnome Productions: www.gnomeproductions.com "strangers care where they fall, strange you dont" - 'Strangers care', Fourth Floor Collapse ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 23 Nov 2003 22:55:40 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] tori in telegraph Jaz wrote: > NOW living in Cornwall with her partner and their > three-year old child, quirky US singer-songwriter I think she's more 'boring' than 'quirky' these days. > "Different things happened to her", she said, > referring to herself in the third person, "and in > that way she saw the world. The she moved to > London." > Asked why she moved out to London, Amos said it was > the choce of her spouse, MArk, who is British. Um, she moved to London in 1991 to build up a fan-base/media-interst there pre-LE. > I imagine this is left wide open for commentary by > Nathan. Yup. Nas. ===== "You thought that I'd be stressed without you - But I'm chillin' You thought I wouldn't sell without you - Sold 9 million" "I'm not gon blast you on the radio (I'm better than that) I'm not gon lie on you and your family (I'm better than that) I'm not gon hate on you in the magazines (I'm better than that) I'm not gon compromise my Christianity (I'm better than that) You know I'm not gon diss you on the internet Cause my mama taught me better than that" - - 'Survivor', Destiny's Child. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Free Pop-Up Blocker - Get it now http://companion.yahoo.com/ ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V3 #281 ****************************