From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V3 #257 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Tuesday, October 21 2003 Volume 03 : Number 257 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] It needs to be said [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] TOAL ["Dale Baldock" ] Re: [oztori] TOAL [Nathan "®" ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:51:05 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] It needs to be said No, I'm not just saying this as an 'inflammatory comment' from 'nasty' nayth, but SERIOUSLY... what *WAS* Tori THINKING by putting: Mr Zebra Way Down Mary Sweet Dreams Me and a Gun & Half of LE (nothing wrong with LE, just why such a large no.of songs from it?!) on her 'best' of?! (and don't give me the 'but it's NOT a best of!') and leaving CALS off?! [yes, I realise this has all been said before] but (to quote Madonna's finest moment, "Human Nature" ;) "what was (she) thinking?" "musta been crazy" She has now officially taken the 'weird chick' thing too far. Nathan. ===== "Sex in its many variations is a way of life for the Scorpio Man. You are not naturally attracted to any one particular perversion or deviant sexual practice, you are attracted to them all!" "The scorpion symbolizes a hotheaded warrior who is violently passionate, bluntly sarcastic, egotistical, controlling and manipulative." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 22:56:23 -0700 From: "Dale Baldock" Subject: Re: [oztori] TOAL > "Don't get me wrong", I like most of the post-Pele > studio 'band' tracks - just you sense that some didn't > quite need drums (hello Josephine). although i love that josephine was recorded in stereo, with the drums in one chanel and the piano in the other, so with the flick of a balance switch you can do some bedroom remixing and create the 'josephine sans drum/piano mixes'. also, i have to say that i'm a fan of the radio edit of strange. the edit has such a different feel with the extra guitar and vocals. the guitar lends it this kind of lazy southern feel. methinks this is an example of remastering/editing that works. i hope this is an indication of some of the toal stuff. only just listened to mary.v2 for the first time then. i don't mind the rerecording, but personally, it's never been a favourite. a tiny bit of me cringes every time at that dolphins line. dale ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 18:07:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] TOAL Dale Baldock wrote: > also, i have to say that i'm a fan of the radio edit > of strange. *exhales audibly* Let's get some things str8, Dale (and for about 99% of other Tori fans who seem oblivious to these things): 1) an EDIT is simply that - an EDIT - ie, nothing is really changed - case example being the Cornflake Girl edit which appears on the US CD single of it - it simply chops 1:12 minutes off the song. 2) Strange is *not* an "edit" - because the music to it is completely changed. It's a 'remix', and is labelled as "Radio VERSION" on the test-pressing CD of it (I have one nya nya nyah). To say that the radio version of Strange is an 'edit' is also ridiculous, because it it actually slightly LONGER than the LP version! > the edit > has such a different feel with the extra guitar and > vocals. the guitar lends > it this kind of lazy southern feel. I think "lazy southern feel" could sum up most of Tori's recent output. > methinks this is > an example of > remastering/editing that works. It hasn't been 'remastered' - remastering is where they take an original recording and alter the sound levels/emphasise certain acoustic features, but don't actually *change* the muzak. > i hope this is an > indication of some of the > toal stuff. *trying hard to resist bursting a blood vessel* Um, Dale hon - ok you might have missed it, but TOAL is like *all previously released tracks* (which have been remastered), plus 2 new songs, plus 2 re-recorded b-sides dubiously included. So to get "an indication of some of the toal stuff", simply pull out your LE to TVAB cd's and enjoy! > only just listened to mary.v2 for the first time > then. i don't mind the > rerecording, but personally, it's never been a > favourite. a tiny bit of me > cringes every time at that dolphins line. Yay all is nearly forgiven re: your earlier faux pas's ;) > dale "see you over hill and dale" ;) Nathan. ===== "Sex in its many variations is a way of life for the Scorpio Man. You are not naturally attracted to any one particular perversion or deviant sexual practice, you are attracted to them all!" "The scorpion symbolizes a hotheaded warrior who is violently passionate, bluntly sarcastic, egotistical, controlling and manipulative." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V3 #257 ****************************