From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V3 #256 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Monday, October 20 2003 Volume 03 : Number 256 Today's Subjects: ----------------- Re: [oztori] TOAL [AndrewR ] [oztori] some candid comments and constructive criticism of contemporary compositions by the confessional composer and cornflake choirgirl Tori Amos [] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:56:32 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] TOAL At 05:57 PM 18/10/2003, Nilay Koyunoglu wrote: >Nathan wrote: >>- vocal technique: + nasality, + glottal fry (the >> croakiness); - upper range. > >I also hate the croakiness she has added to her voice. I'm sure if she >really tried she could sing the way she did in UTP/BFP days - ie crystal >clear and able to hit higher notes with ease. > >However, I think Choirgirl is fantastic and that songs like Spark, Black >Dove and Hotel work fabulously with bass and the other intsruments that >she began introducing into her work. Look there is nothing WRONG with the guitar, drums and the bass - I mean It's not as if we didn't have it in the first 3 albums... BUT the thing is that it was OVERUSED from Choirgirl (or more so) Venus onwards. Josephine SO doesn't need anything but a piano... the musique plus performance of it proves this. It's a wonder Wampum Prayer doesn't have a cymbal crash. ------------------------------ Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2003 00:06:11 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] some candid comments and constructive criticism of contemporary compositions by the confessional composer and cornflake choirgirl Tori Amos Cut & pasted from an email from an irl friend: Me: > I'm d'loading one of the re-corded tracks, "Mary", > Tori has done for her best of (they're both b-sides > from her first album, and not particularly great ones > at that), and omg... it's *awful*!!! The song > sucked in the first place, but at least her voice > could hit the high notes etc much better then. This > just sounds really shoddy. Said 'friend': > lol I bet it's the 'marraige' she's in that is > ruining her creativity! How perceptive!! Now to 'deal' with other 'issues': "Rayf" wrote: > Look there is nothing WRONG with the guitar, drums > and the bass - I mean It's not as if we didn't have > it in the first 3 albums... BUT the thing is > that it was OVERUSED from Choirgirl (or more so) > Venus onwards. IHWYS. Though 'to be fair' was not the 'point' of FTCH/TVAB to 'show off the band'/that Tori wasn't 'just' a 'girl and a piano'. Fair 'nuff. > It's a wonder Wampum Prayer doesn't have a cymbal > crash. LOL! Nugs. ===== "Sex in its many variations is a way of life for the Scorpio Man. You are not naturally attracted to any one particular perversion or deviant sexual practice, you are attracted to them all!" "The scorpion symbolizes a hotheaded warrior who is violently passionate, bluntly sarcastic, egotistical, controlling and manipulative." __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V3 #256 ****************************