From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V3 #241 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Wednesday, October 1 2003 Volume 03 : Number 241 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] The answer is yes [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] Mariah Carey's 'bum [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] TOOL tracklisting - le bitch [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] The answer is yes; but the question is no. [AndrewR Subject: [oztori] The answer is yes lol the person for whom this is intended for will know what I'm talking about. Nathan. ===== "I'm nobody's promise and I'm nobody's chore and I ain't got nobody that I feel I gotta live for - nobody to live for. I'm nobody's work & I'm nobody's company and every time I turn around I always seem to find just me" - - "Monsters and Angels", Voice of the Beehive. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:37:08 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] Mariah Carey's 'bum At 03:55 PM 29/09/2003, Nathan =?UNKNOWN?B?rg==?= wrote: >Rebecca Appleton wrote: > > > "Charmbracelet"?? *snicker* That is without doubt > > the single worst > > album title I've ever heard. And that includes all > > the other ones > > you just listed here. Who the hell approves this > > shit and how do > > they get around laws about drug use in the > > workplace? > >You raise some good points for discussion, Becc. >[snip nauseating list of MC albums] I don't know who I said this to last - but I reckon that Mariah should 'come back' on the scene all rock-like. Complete shed the shit she has been pumping out for a decade - and go completely heavy. Full on metal heavy. It'd be great! :) Sort of an evanescance thing. :) >Nathan. > >===== >"I'm nobody's promise and I'm nobody's chore >and I ain't got nobody that I feel I gotta live for - nobody to live for. >I'm nobody's work & I'm nobody's company >and every time I turn around I always seem to find >just me" > >- "Monsters and Angels", Voice of the Beehive. > >__________________________________ >Do you Yahoo!? >The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search >http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:40:11 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] TOOL tracklisting - le bitch At 11:55 AM 30/09/2003, Nathan =?UNKNOWN?B?rg==?= wrote: >...posted by Trent Titmarsh @ @forumz Main Tori Forum: > >------------------------------------------------------- >This is offical news from Warner Australia: > >TALES OF A LIBRARIAN A TORI AMOS COLLECTION > >1. Precious Things >2. Angels (new song) >3. Silent All These Years >4. Cornflake Girl >5. Mary >6. God >7. Winter >8. Spark >9. Way Down >10. Professional Widow >11. Mr. Zebra >12. Crucify >13. Me and A Gun >14. Bliss >15. Playboy Mommy >16. Baker Baker >17. Tear in Your Hand >18. Sweet Dreams >19. Jackie's Strength >20. Snow Cherries from France (new song) >------------------------------------------------------- > > >Nayth's comments: > >1. WHY "Way Down" and "Mr Zebra"? I mean sure, >they're OK, but what a 'waste of space', so to speak. >An actual "proper" song coulda been slotted in instead >o'them. Well I like them both - but both could have made way for PTDO, CALS or HJ(Dakota) I hope that is true about there being the 'snare' remix of PTDO being released! >2. No "Caught A Lite Sneeze"? OK, Tori is officially >on crack. And Atlantic for letting her omit it. Agreed - this should have been on there. And Rasperry Swirl. >4. Wasn't "Horses" supposed to be on this? Maybe she was on "Horses". Something out of her garden do doubt. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:42:04 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] racklisting At 12:49 PM 30/09/2003, Nathan =?UNKNOWN?B?rg==?= wrote: >Julian P wrote: > > > OMG!! > > > > Way Down?? > > > > No CALS??? > > > > This is a joke yeah? > >Oh come on Julian, "Way Down" and "Mr Zebra" are >amongst her BEST you know! I listen to them on repeat >like all the time! (which would equate to hearing them >about 40 times an hour each lol). Just for you Nathan I would have loved her to put "All the Girls Hate Her" on there! >N. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:43:32 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] The answer is yes; but the question is no. At 10:33 PM 30/09/2003, Nathan =?UNKNOWN?B?rg==?= wrote: >lol the person for whom this is intended for will know >what I'm talking about. > >Nathan. OK, who proposed to Nathan!?! Julian!?! Jas!?! John!?! :) ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 06:50:28 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] TOOL tracklisting - le bitch AndrewR wrote: > Well I like them both - but both could have made way > for PTDO, CALS or > HJ(Dakota) I like Mr Zebra & Way Down too - but they don't belong on a single-disc retrospective of her career. > Agreed - this should have been on there. > > And Rasperry Swirl. 'xactly. > Maybe she was on "Horses". Something out of her > garden do doubt. This seems the general 'consencus' (lol I'm not sure on the spelling.. I had concensus first.. "oh well") on @forumz atm. I hope SOMEBODY has 'the balls' to 'confront' her re: her dubious choices on the TOAL tracklisting. I suppose there's some dodgy forced 'concept' involved here. > Just for you Nathan I would have loved her to put > "All the Girls Hate Her" on there! I don't detest ATGHA - it's just... I would never feel the urge to listen to it. "Over It", however, is fab! Nathan. ===== "I'm nobody's promise and I'm nobody's chore and I ain't got nobody that I feel I gotta live for - nobody to live for. I'm nobody's work & I'm nobody's company and every time I turn around I always seem to find just me" - - "Monsters and Angels", Voice of the Beehive. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:37:43 -0700 From: "Dale Baldock" Subject: Re: [oztori] "Supposably" the TOAL tracklisting - let the bitching commence! > TALES OF A LIBRARIAN  A TORI AMOS COLLECTION > > 1. Precious Things > 2. Angels (new song) > 3. Silent All These Years > 4. Cornflake Girl > 5. Mary > 6. God > 7. Winter > 8. Spark > 9. Way Down > 10. Professional Widow > 11. Mr. Zebra > 12. Crucify > 13. Me and A Gun > 14. Bliss > 15. Playboy Mommy > 16. Baker Baker > 17. Tear in Your Hand > 18. Sweet Dreams > 19. Jackie's Strength > 20. Snow Cherries from France (new song) > ------------------------------------------------------- > > 3. "Me And A Gun"? Wow, that brings it to a total of > SIX Little Earthquakes tracks (yes, *HALF OF THE > FUCKING ALBUM*!) PLUS the 2 're-worked' LE-era > b-sides, Sweet Dreams & Mary = 8 tracks of 20 from the > LE-era = 40% of TOAL!! agreed, when you put it like that, it is a tad excessive. i'm glad baker baker made it on, although i would trade jackie's strength for spring haze in an instant. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 07:13:29 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] TOAL press release: the Nayth version From the info at http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2003/20030930_toriamos.html Right. So these songs have been 'sequenced by Tori in an order which tells her story'. let's see: 1. Precious Things - Tori dealing with 'grandma' 2. Angels - ?? supposed to be about the state of the world today: yes, I see how that logically flows on from Precious Things. 3. Silent All These Years - Tori not using her voice when growing up, hmm? 4. Cornflake Girl - she never was one at school. Although she got Homecoming Queen. *snicker* 5. Mary - about her time at Sunday School. 6. God - see above/starting to question her father's beliefs. 7. Winter - still about her father & 'growing up'. 8. Spark - ooh skip a few years, she has a miscarriage 9. Way Down - back a few years to after YKTR flopped. 10. Professional Widow - jump to early/mid 90's when Kurt Go-Bang offed himself, and Tori may or may not have had a 'thing' with Trent Reznor which may or may not have been intercepted by Courtney Love. *bites knuckle* 11. Mr Zebra - Tori's now cold in her hole after said alleged affair. 12. Crucify - but she's never going to back to crucify herself in a relationship the same way. 13. Me and a Gun - skip back a few years, um she experienced a traumatic event which she refers to as rape. 14. Bliss - but then she 'got out of this' and her life became a bliss of another kind. 15. Playboy Mommy - although she didn't want her miscarried daughter in 8 above to judge her so harshly. 16. Baker Baker - then she tried to find the pieces of herself again after breaking up with Eric, although we first passed that by #8 above. 17. Tear In Your Hand - another break-up song. Although by this stage on the CD she was already married. 18. Sweet Dreams - um a song in part about Bush, but in 1990, so we've gone back again. 19. Jackie's Strength - and now she's married. 20. Snow Cherries From France - and now Neil writes shit about her in his online journal. Yep, it sure 'flows' in the right 'order' chronologically. N. ===== "I'm nobody's promise and I'm nobody's chore and I ain't got nobody that I feel I gotta live for - nobody to live for. I'm nobody's work & I'm nobody's company and every time I turn around I always seem to find just me" - - "Monsters and Angels", Voice of the Beehive. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 23:37:43 -0700 From: "Dale Baldock" Subject: Re: [oztori] "Supposably" the TOAL tracklisting - let the bitching commence! > TALES OF A LIBRARIAN  A TORI AMOS COLLECTION > > 1. Precious Things > 2. Angels (new song) > 3. Silent All These Years > 4. Cornflake Girl > 5. Mary > 6. God > 7. Winter > 8. Spark > 9. Way Down > 10. Professional Widow > 11. Mr. Zebra > 12. Crucify > 13. Me and A Gun > 14. Bliss > 15. Playboy Mommy > 16. Baker Baker > 17. Tear in Your Hand > 18. Sweet Dreams > 19. Jackie's Strength > 20. Snow Cherries from France (new song) > ------------------------------------------------------- > > 3. "Me And A Gun"? Wow, that brings it to a total of > SIX Little Earthquakes tracks (yes, *HALF OF THE > FUCKING ALBUM*!) PLUS the 2 're-worked' LE-era > b-sides, Sweet Dreams & Mary = 8 tracks of 20 from the > LE-era = 40% of TOAL!! agreed, when you put it like that, it is a tad excessive. i'm glad baker baker made it on, although i would trade jackie's strength for spring haze in an instant. ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:57:41 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] Tori discusses the TOAL concept ...if I may c&p this post from @forumz (GASP an actual decent post was made there! Check AlexM2474's post on this page http://www.atforumz.com/showthread.php?p=3046822#post3046822) I haven't read all this yet, but I am LOL-ing at #5 'as we speak'. - -------------------------------------------------------- Originally Posted by AlexM2474 Tori discusses the "concept": 1. Precious Things So, um, we begin with Precious Things. It's like when you are moving along the medicine wheel and you burn the sage and you begin to remember where you, um . . . you know that Shiraz was a grape at one time, you know? And this is like a big purple grape. And I remember when I opened my shows with this song and it was like, I could use a drink. But I'm not talking about getting drunk, um . . . it's the anima of the wine, you know? It gets you in the mood. 2. Angels (new song) So then my character the Librarian (who could be me, could be a ribbon, could be a shoelace or the state of Delaware) is hanging out in these bars and these, um . . . these women . . . well, you know Mary Magdalene was pretty much silenced in Christianity. The sexual goddess who washed feet? Where did she go? Well, these women who came into the bars they were, um . . . entertainers in their way and they used to hang with Magdalene. And they taught me a thing or two. 3. Silent All These Years So the Librarian is like looking things up in the card catalog . . . the wine is taking an effect on her and she is loosening up her tongue and she's um, not willing to believe the Encyclopedias of the um patriarchy . . . because, guys, you know we love you, but a penis is a penis, you know? 4. Cornflake Girl The Librarian takes her encyclopedia and she's escaping the institution and she um . . . needs another glass of wine . . . and she has one and she's beginning to question where the wampum has gone. I mean, when I sing "where'd you put the keys, girl" it's like you're in the parking lot and you can leave and escape but, you um . . . had that last glass of wine and it's like where are those damn keys? 5. Mary The librarian hears the dolphins cry, which is like the sirens and these women who have passed on the bloodlines of Magdalene and the Librarian realizes she has got to find new things to believe in. 6. God And then she talks to the Commander in Chief and I am not talking about the um, imposter we have in our capital. I mean, America has a soul and she has been prostituted and the Librarian questions the deals that have been made by the Heavenly President because he's like, playing golf and stuff and the Librarian is wearing Blahniks and she's not going to walk on the golf course. He has to come to her. 7. Winter The librarian looks to the East on the medicine wheel as she ponders the idea of the fathers . . . and as she travels to meet her shaman, she has a vision of a white horse. And she wonders what was in that wine? 8. Spark The shaman makes the Librarian question who she is. She has to find what she believes in. And it's like there is jelly in her stomach and she wants preserves. 9. Way Down The Librarian falls down the mountain. 10. Professional Widow And she meets the Professional Widow, the Lady MacBeth and they get dressed up and go out on the town and the Widow has a Trans-Am and wears animal skins but she has a secret. She has forgotten her grapes. 11. Mr. Zebra So she asks Mr. Zebra where the grapes are, but he's a Zebra and can't talk. 12. Crucify And after looking for the grapes, the Librarian wonders about these women, the Magdalenes and how they are all looking for something. The Christ. The Robert Plant element. The yang. And it's like the Widow says "give me peace love and hard cock" but are they all using hard cocks to hammer in the nails? She takes another glass of wine . . . 13. Me and A Gun . . . and she remembers . . . 14. Bliss . . . and then there are those time when it's like you know? I . . . uh . . . no, this is funny. I mean, I was shopping at Fred Segal and there was like this dress and I put it on and it was like the essence of the dress. The dress juice was like dripping all over me and it was like this moment for the Librarian. She's a huntress. 15. Playboy Mommy And well, it's time for a lot more wine. You know what I mean . . . 16. Baker Baker Can I have some more wine? 17. Tear in Your Hand God I am so drunk . . . 18. Sweet Dreams Oh, I know, let's rerecord "Sweet Dreams!" 19. Jackie's Strength Shit, what? I forgot "Caught a Lite Sneeze?" Oh, God, well, the Librarian . . . she's um . . . yeah . . . do you like my new shoes? 20. Snow Cherries from France (new song) Neil made me do it. - -------------------------------------------------------- Nathan. ===== "I'm nobody's promise and I'm nobody's chore and I ain't got nobody that I feel I gotta live for - nobody to live for. I'm nobody's work & I'm nobody's company and every time I turn around I always seem to find just me" - - "Monsters and Angels", Voice of the Beehive. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 16:13:40 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] TOAL is a crappy title compared to this From an IRL friend who shall remain nameless: - ---------------------------------------------------------- From: X To: "Nathan_." Subject: Tori's next album should be called... Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:52:20 +1000 manda-tori - ---------------------------------------------------------- Hyeh. TOAL shoulda been called "MandaTori Listening"! Nayth. ===== "I'm nobody's promise and I'm nobody's chore and I ain't got nobody that I feel I gotta live for - nobody to live for. I'm nobody's work & I'm nobody's company and every time I turn around I always seem to find just me" - - "Monsters and Angels", Voice of the Beehive. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Tue, 30 Sep 2003 17:11:55 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] testing (ignore.. lol I have the sneaking suspicion most ppl ignore my emails already) 123 ===== "I'm nobody's promise and I'm nobody's chore and I ain't got nobody that I feel I gotta live for - nobody to live for. I'm nobody's work & I'm nobody's company and every time I turn around I always seem to find just me" - - "Monsters and Angels", Voice of the Beehive. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 08:57:23 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] TOAL press release: the Nayth version LMAO I know you already said 'yes', but now you really have to marry me! J PS - I even deleted some of your email in my reply! PPS - can I just say as a matter of public record how incredibly jarring Me and a Gun >> Bliss is ... ? --- Nathan . wrote: > From the info at > http://www.undercover.com.au/news/2003/20030930_toriamos.html > > > Right. So these songs have been 'sequenced by Tori > in > an order which tells her story'. > > let's see: > > > [humorous and apt tracklist bitching] > > > > Yep, it sure 'flows' in the right 'order' > chronologically. ===== ___________________________ www.livejournal.com/~blade_to_ice ___________________________ http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 1 Oct 2003 12:05:51 +1000 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] Tori discusses the TOAL concept 15-19 are inspired!!! truly inspired!! (esp 18!! LMAO) --- Nathan . wrote: > ...if I may c&p this post from @forumz (GASP an > actual > decent post was made there! Check AlexM2474's post > on > this page > http://www.atforumz.com/showthread.php?p=3046822#post3046822) > > I haven't read all this yet, but I am LOL-ing at #5 > 'as we speak'. > > ---------------------------------------------------- > 15. Playboy Mommy > > And well, it's time for a lot more wine. You know > what > I mean . . . > > 16. Baker Baker > > Can I have some more wine? > > 17. Tear in Your Hand > > God I am so drunk . . . > > 18. Sweet Dreams > > Oh, I know, let's rerecord "Sweet Dreams!" > > 19. Jackie's Strength > > Shit, what? I forgot "Caught a Lite Sneeze?" Oh, > God, > well, the Librarian . . . she's um . . . yeah . . . > do > you like my new shoes? > > 20. Snow Cherries from France (new song) > > Neil made me do it. > - -------------------------------------------------------- > > > Nathan. > > ===== > "I'm nobody's promise and I'm nobody's chore > and I ain't got nobody that I feel I gotta live for > - nobody to live for. > I'm nobody's work & I'm nobody's company > and every time I turn around I always seem to find > just me" > > - "Monsters and Angels", Voice of the Beehive. > > __________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > === message truncated === ===== ___________________________ www.livejournal.com/~blade_to_ice ___________________________ http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V3 #241 ****************************