From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V3 #224 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Saturday, September 6 2003 Volume 03 : Number 224 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] memories [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] memories [Zac Ariel ] Re: [oztori] memories [AndrewR ] [oztori] Rolling stone article on the best of (with nayth comments added in square brackets) [Nathan "®" <] Re: [oztori] Rolling stone article on the best of (with nayth comments added in square brackets) [Nadyne Miel] Re: [oztori] Rolling stone article on the best of (with nayth comments added in square brackets) [Nathan ] ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 05:35:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] memories Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2001 17:30:54 -0800 (PST) From: Dan Stapleton Subject: [oztori] OMG time for a heart-attack. from the dent: "anna who posts here sometimes is in the states at the moment (with MLA another forum regular!) and she has just emailed me to tell me that she met the wonderful woman herself who told anna that a new album (of new songs) may be out by next year AND with the release will be another tour.. AUSTRALIA included!!! I've never been one for gossip and spreading rumours, but really - this came from Tori herself, and I would trust anna's message! " OMG!!!!! lol, this is all the more reason to push tozza, so she doesn't have any excuse to change her mind... VOTE! BUY! :) l'il dan - ----------- Nathan. ===== "when I hear that someone's been eaten by a crocodile or shark, I just get all gooey. I start salivating. I'm facinated by it. If I had to get tortured by a human being or eaten by a crocodile, I'd take the crocodile any day of the week. The reason is that it's not personal. You were lunch." - Tori Amos, 1994 __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 05 Sep 2003 23:34:38 +1000 From: Zac Ariel Subject: Re: [oztori] memories Nathan . wrote: > woman herself who told anna that a new album (of new > songs) may be out by next year AND with the release > will be another tour.. AUSTRALIA included!!! you'll excuse me, i hope, if i don't hold my breath :) (if memory serves me correct, wasn't there "rumours" of a tour to australia to support scarlet's walk as well? and the album before that?? etc..) *shrug* i'd be the last to complain if she did tour, but..... z. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 06 Sep 2003 09:40:47 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] memories At 11:34 PM 5/09/2003, Zac Ariel wrote: >Nathan . wrote: > >>woman herself who told anna that a new album (of new >>songs) may be out by next year AND with the release >>will be another tour.. AUSTRALIA included!!! > >you'll excuse me, i hope, if i don't hold my breath :) > >(if memory serves me correct, wasn't there "rumours" of a tour to >australia to support scarlet's walk as well? and the album before that?? etc..) > >*shrug* i'd be the last to complain if she did tour, but..... > >z. Um, Zac - reread the original e-mail... hence the subject title "memories". :o) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 17:53:19 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] Rolling stone article on the best of (with nayth comments added in square brackets) Tori Amos Bears New Fruit New compilation to include two new songs Tori Amos will encapsulate her decade-long career with the release of a best-of collection [yes, Sweet Dreams & Mary are really her 'best'] on Atlantic Records on November 18th. Amos, who first surfaced with 1992's Little Earthquakes, conceived the set -- [alarm bells start ringing] which contains two new tracks, ("Snow Cherries From France" and "Angels") -- as a librarian would, in an attempt to remember and restore some of her early work, presenting it in a cohesive package. "I'm referring to it more as a 'best-of' because I think to have a 'Greatest Hits' you need like ten Top Ten hits," [um she DID have 3 top 10 hits in the UK - CG, PGY & PW... but hey of course everything with her nowaday is US-centric] Amos says from a Columbia, Maryland, tour stop. "This is more of a chronicle of what we know of Tori from 1990 to 2003 . . . So it's from her perspective of the last many years, having traveled around the world [um she hasn't crossed the equator since 1994] and going through her own personal stuff. And the songs do that. Maybe it's the closest thing to an autobiography of this woman's life that there's ever been." [oh great, not only does she refer to her songs as 'girl' and 'she'.. she now refers to herself as 'this woman'. LOL she shoulda called the album 'This Woman's Work'] The album's track list is informed by Amos' narrative approach as much as her commercial successes. "It includes things like 'Precious Things' and of course 'Silent All These Years,' 'Cornflake Girl,' 'Spark,' songs that people might be familiar with on one level," she says. "And then there are quite a lot of songs that I felt gave you more story and a bit of sizzle with variations musically. It had to represent a whole musical spectrum because that's very much a part of the story. It's not just the ballads. It's not just what you heard on the radio." Two songs -- "Mary" and "Sweet Dreams" -- were originally slated for release on Little Earthquakes, but were cut from the final album. Amos re-tracked the songs with her current bassist Jon Evans and drummer Matt Chamberlain. "I don't think they were brought to their zenith," she says. "And I thought the songs were still valid." [um Elton John is really the only one who could bring Mary to its 'zenith' (um no, I like neither Elton nor Mary.. just stating that the piano in it is so Elton-esque [ie, boring])] As for the new songs, Amos says she recently finished writing "Snow Cherries From France," after years of failed attempts. [so much for it then being her fave song from Choirgirl in 1998... Lemme guess, she's added a line or 2 about America to it?] And she describes "Angels" as being more situated in the present, the culmination of having played in piano bars for "that whole Washington set" since she was a teenager. "It's a commentary on now," she says. "The world after what we've been through the last two years and the state of play." [oh great... just what we needed - SW Mark II?] According to Amos, the hardest part was not selecting which songs from her oeuvre would make the cut, but rather finding the original mixes. "Tracking down some of these tapes was an awesome task," Amos says. "I think they might have been in somebody's dorm room somewhere [laughs] . . . I'm serious, the libraries that were supposed to be taking care of the masters were not in tact. So we had people chasing down masters all over the world. We found some in -- you'd be amazed -- in like the playroom of their house. It's like, 'What's "Winter" doing there?'" [well hopefully she's actually USED the originals & remastered them rather than covered her own songs] Amos wraps her Lottapianos tour with fellow piano pal Ben Folds tonight in West Palm Beach. BRIAN ORLOFF (September 5, 2003) Nayth. (September 6, 2003) ===== "How HOW can you keep doing SP? Just reading that email and imagining that kid being so annoying and the parents not showing up and everything sent shivers of horror down my spine. SP IS HELL ON EARTH. Even reading about your experiences makes me sick and I didnt even experience them lol. " - Celia, 5th September 2003. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! SiteBuilder - Free, easy-to-use web site design software http://sitebuilder.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:21:45 -0700 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [oztori] Rolling stone article on the best of (with nayth comments added in square brackets) On Friday, September 5, 2003, at 05:53 PM, Nathan . wrote: > [um she DID have 3 top 10 hits in the UK - CG, PGY & > PW... but hey of course everything with her nowaday is > US-centric] 3 != 10 In fact, 3 < 10. I realise that's difficult. > [um she hasn't crossed the equator since 1994] You've made the assumption that she hasn't travelled to the Southern Hemisphere on anything except a tour. That's a faulty assumption. Further, I didn't know that one had to specify where they've been, nor when they've been there, to state that they have travelled around the world. I didn't realise that there was some sort of expiry. > [so much for it then being her fave song from > Choirgirl in 1998... Lemme guess, she's added a line > or 2 about America to it?] She's stated a few times that she hadn't recorded it, but had been noodling with it for awhile. It's not as if Tori hasn't done that in the past. > [well hopefully she's actually USED the originals & > remastered them rather than covered her own songs] She has spent a fair amount of time and effort remastering the originals. Mark was in a UK studio earlier this year digging up the masters and working on them. /nm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 5 Sep 2003 21:31:04 -0700 (PDT) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] Rolling stone article on the best of (with nayth comments added in square brackets) Nadyne Mielke wrote: > 3 != 10 Yes, but 3 to the power of 2.095903274 (rounded to 9 decimal places) is 10 :) > > [um she hasn't crossed the equator since 1994] > > You've made the assumption that she hasn't travelled > to the Southern > Hemisphere on anything except a tour. That's a > faulty assumption. OK what evidence do you have to suggest that she HAS ventured beyond the Equator since 1994? Her supposed visits to some "shaman" and/or "medicine woman" in South America from who she got onto Datura don't count, as they are only part of Tori's "hey, I take drugs.. I'm cool!" act. > She's stated a few times that she hadn't recorded > it, but had been > noodling with it for awhile. It's not as if Tori > hasn't done that in > the past. Yes but she has a *recording studio* @ her place in Cornwall. WHY wouldn't she have 'record' on at some point when she was 'writing' something? > She has spent a fair amount of time and effort > remastering the > originals. Mark was in a UK studio earlier this > year digging up the > masters and working on them. Oh great I can hardly wait to hear Mark's take on the Eric Rosse co-produced tunes. Nathan. ===== "How HOW can you keep doing SP? Just reading that email and imagining that kid being so annoying and the parents not showing up and everything sent shivers of horror down my spine. SP IS HELL ON EARTH. Even reading about your experiences makes me sick and I didnt even experience them lol. " - Celia, 5th September 2003. __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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