From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V3 #37 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Sunday, February 2 2003 Volume 03 : Number 037 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] burning tracks [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] burning tracks [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] burning tracks [=?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= ] Re: [oztori] burning tracks, burning songs, burning babies and their bongs. [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] burning bridges [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] burning tracks, burning songs, burning Sisquo and his (thankfully largely forgotten) Thong Song. [speaking of which, Sisquo was born exactly ONE day before me... kinda makes me feel a tad 'inadequate' when I compare what he has 'achieved' in the same amount of time (albeit less one day) compared to what I have... oh well] [] [oztori] Nathan said: [Sisquo kinda makes me feel a tad 'inadequate' when I compare what he has to what I have... oh well] [] Re: [oztori] burning tracks [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: [oztori] burning tracks [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: [oztori] burning tracks [=?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= ] Re: [oztori] um. ["Matty Vines" ] Re: [oztori] ex-SQQusez;ex-SQQusez [AndrewR ] [oztori] Touch Me (I Want Your Body) [Nathan "®" ] Re: [oztori] Columbia [AndrewR ] Re: [oztori] Touch Me (I Want Your Body) [Nadyne Mielke ] Re: [oztori] ex-SQQusez;ex-SQQusez ["Matty Vines" ] [oztori] Re: oztori-digest V3 #35 ["nina riddel" Subject: [oztori] burning tracks OK, if you're burning a new audio cd of mp3's that are now converted to CD files... and those mp3's were 128kps - will it still sound good - or is 192 the accepted minimum? I want to do a bee-sides thing - but it's hard to find all 192kps. Plus - they take longer to download - or there are only a few sources of them. If you had a 128 then a 192 then a 128 etc - will when you listen to the CD - there be a noticeable difference? Takk Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 00:44:30 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] burning tracks AndrewR wrote: > OK, if you're burning a new audio cd of mp3's that > are now converted to CD > files... and those mp3's were 128kps - Hehhee.. I just KNOW you're talking about my mp3 CD's... Funnily enough, I discovered I can 'rip' mp3 up to 320 kbps just after I sent you those Andz. But I don't think I have the patience to rip 100-odd Tori songs into 320kbps mp3's. Nathan. ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - -- Marcus Brigstocke, British Comedian ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 19:52:34 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] burning tracks I've made quite a few CDs out of 128 kbps mp3s, to give me something to listen to on my discman or at work ... and they've usually been pretty okay. Generally speaking, differences in bitrate are less noticeable in mp3s of studio tracks than live tracks, and are more noticeable on really high-end sound systems than on your average set up. On an average CD player, for a studio track that had been ripped using a decent program, I'd say that the difference between a 128 kbps and a 192 kbps mp3 would be negligible at best, tolerable at worst. There are some SQQs (those annoying fucks who run what I like to think of as the "SHN Mafia") who think that *any* mp3-sourced CD track is unacceptable, and unlistenable. But to the "normal" listener (or to us "moderate" SQQs), there shouldn't be a problem. Just so long as you know that it is very bad ettiquette to trade mp3 sourced bootlegs -- unless you make it VERY clear that the bootleg is mp3 sourced and obtain consent of the recipient -- then you should be fine. Oh, and 128 kbps is considered "near CD quality". It's really 92kpbs mp3s and lower where you really notice that something is not quite there. Moreover, most mp3 ripping programs will not burn these mp3s at all. Hope that helps. J AndrewR wrote:OK, if you're burning a new audio cd of mp3's that are now converted to CD files... and those mp3's were 128kps - will it still sound good - or is 192 the accepted minimum? I want to do a bee-sides thing - but it's hard to find all 192kps. Plus - they take longer to download - or there are only a few sources of them. If you had a 128 then a 192 then a 128 etc - will when you listen to the CD - there be a noticeable difference? Takk Andrew - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Movies - - What's on at your local cinema? ------------------------------ Date: 1 Feb 2003 08:55:09 -0000 From: "Matty Vines" Subject: Re: [oztori] burning tracks I have no idea, OK. But i know that lots of hereinmyhead.com ones recently have been shitty quality and won't burn onto a CD and that's pissed me off. Hugs, Matty ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 19:14:58 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] burning tracks, burning songs, burning babies and their bongs. At 12:44 AM 1/02/2003 -0800, Nathan =?UNKNOWN?B?rg==?= wrote: >AndrewR wrote: > > > OK, if you're burning a new audio cd of mp3's that > > are now converted to CD > > files... and those mp3's were 128kps - > >Hehhee.. I just KNOW you're talking about my mp3 >CD's... Funnily enough, I discovered I can 'rip' mp3 >up to 320 kbps just after I sent you those Andz. But >I don't think I have the patience to rip 100-odd Tori >songs into 320kbps mp3's. No, no mp3's of the internet. Yours were all sourced from cds weren't they? But I'm talking about going from mp3's back to cd. Maybe you'd like to rip a nice copy of YKTR for me - with a nice printout for the covers? ;) We can swap discs at the MEET UP on the 1st of March. I hope to see you all there (in Melbourne) - but someone has to organise a place - as I don't have a clue about anything there. I'll be staying in the city. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 19:16:47 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] burning trackie-dacks. At 07:52 PM 1/02/2003 +1100, Julian P wrote: >I've made quite a few CDs out of 128 kbps mp3s, to give me something to >listen to on my discman or at work ... and they've usually been pretty okay. >Generally speaking, differences in bitrate are less noticeable in mp3s of >studio tracks than live tracks, and are more noticeable on really high-end >sound systems than on your average set up. >On an average CD player, for a studio track that had been ripped using a >decent program, I'd say that the difference between a 128 kbps and a 192 >kbps mp3 would be negligible at best, tolerable at worst. >There are some SQQs (those annoying fucks who run what I like to think of >as the "SHN Mafia") who think that *any* mp3-sourced CD track is >unacceptable, and unlistenable. But to the "normal" listener (or to us >"moderate" SQQs), there shouldn't be a problem. >Just so long as you know that it is very bad ettiquette to trade mp3 >sourced bootlegs -- unless you make it VERY clear that the bootleg is mp3 >sourced and obtain consent of the recipient -- then you should be fine. >Oh, and 128 kbps is considered "near CD quality". It's really 92kpbs mp3s >and lower where you really notice that something is not quite there. >Moreover, most mp3 ripping programs will not burn these mp3s at all. >Hope that helps. Thankyou, it does indeed. Andrew ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:46:25 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] burning bridges Matty Vines wrote: > I have no idea, OK. But i know that lots of > hereinmyhead.com ones recently have been shitty > quality Yes agreed. 'tis such a shame.. the '02 Boys In The Trees is like my fave, but the sound isn't perfect. Although 'tis better to hear a shit-esque quality copy of a 'rarity' than not at all - eg. House of the Rising Sun. Speaking of which... hopefully mp3's of Tori's new recent covers, "Abraham, Martin & John" and "Vincent (Starry Starry Night)" will surface soon. > and won't burn onto a CD and that's pissed > me off. All of them have burnt for me... on Easy CD creator (had to stop & actually think whether 'twas 'creator' or 'creater' there!). Nathan. ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - -- Marcus Brigstocke, British Comedian ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 01:49:28 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] burning tracks, burning songs, burning Sisquo and his (thankfully largely forgotten) Thong Song. [speaking of which, Sisquo was born exactly ONE day before me... kinda makes me feel a tad 'inadequate' when I compare what he has 'achieved' in the same amount of time (albeit less one day) compared to what I have... oh well] AndrewR wrote: > Maybe you'd like to rip a nice copy of YKTR for me - > with a nice printout > for the covers? ;) I can burn an exact copy str8 from the CD. As for the covers... you'll have to shop elsewhere :) > We can swap discs at the MEET UP on the 1st of > March. I hope to see you all > there (in Melbourne) - but someone has to organise a > place - as I don't > have a clue about anything there. I'll be staying in > the city. Maybe 'we' (*cough* if I actually show of course =) should get a hotel room & have a mass orgie there. Nathan. ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - -- Marcus Brigstocke, British Comedian ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 01 Feb 2003 23:24:12 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: [oztori] Nathan said: [Sisquo kinda makes me feel a tad 'inadequate' when I compare what he has to what I have... oh well] At 01:49 AM 1/02/2003 -0800, Nathan =?UNKNOWN?B?rg==?= wrote: >AndrewR wrote: > > > Maybe you'd like to rip a nice copy of YKTR for me - > > with a nice printout > > for the covers? ;) > >I can burn an exact copy str8 from the CD. As for the >covers... you'll have to shop elsewhere :) I'll send the paper!! I just need to have Tori with the big hair and sword! :) > > > We can swap discs at the MEET UP on the 1st of > > March. I hope to see you all > > there (in Melbourne) - but someone has to organise a > > place - as I don't > > have a clue about anything there. I'll be staying in > > the city. > >Maybe 'we' (*cough* if I actually show of course =) You'll show - you'd better! :) >should get a hotel room & have a mass orgie there. what about a mass corgie? :o) ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:18:52 -0800 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [oztori] burning tracks On Saturday, Feb 1, 2003, at 00:44 US/Pacific, Nathan . wrote: > Hehhee.. I just KNOW you're talking about my mp3 > CD's... Funnily enough, I discovered I can 'rip' mp3 > up to 320 kbps just after I sent you those Andz. But > I don't think I have the patience to rip 100-odd Tori > songs into 320kbps mp3's. But why would you want to rip 320kbps MP3s? At that point, the resulting MP3s are just as big as the WAV, but since it's still resampling, there is a loss of quality. Personally, when I rip MP3s, I use Exact Audio Copy + LAME, ripping variable at 192. /nm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 08:22:11 -0800 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [oztori] burning tracks On Saturday, Feb 1, 2003, at 00:52 US/Pacific, Julian P wrote: > Oh, and 128 kbps is considered "near CD quality". It's really 92kpbs > mp3s and lower where you really notice that something is not quite > there. Moreover, most mp3 ripping programs will not burn these mp3s at > all. I have to completely disagree. I have slightly damaged hearing, and I can tell the difference between a 128kbps and a 192kbps and the original file. Some songs are worse than others; I simply cannot handle listening to a MP3 of the studio version of 'Sugar', because the MP3 loses so many nuances of the music. (Of course, I've also heard the studio version of 'Sugar' on a stereo system worth US$40k, which spoiled listening to it on almost anything. ;) /nm ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 2 Feb 2003 09:49:36 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: Re: [oztori] burning tracks Nadyne Mielke wrote: >I simply cannot handle listening to a MP3 of the studio version of 'Sugar', because >the MP3 loses so many nuances of the music. Lol ... I can't listen to the studio version of Sugar b/c it is so crap and poorly produced ... It sounds like an outtake of The Happy Worker (which is far superior). Give me a 64kbps live version of Sugar over a CD quality version of the studio recording ANY day ... Jules "handing in his SQQ badge" P - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Movies - - What's on at your local cinema? ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:01:22 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] Ex-SQQuse me but can I be you for a while.... Julian Pinder-Surprise wrote: > Lol ... I can't listen to the studio version of > Sugar b/c it is so crap and poorly produced ... It > sounds like an outtake of The Happy Worker (which is > far superior). Give me a 64kbps live version of > Sugar over a CD quality version of the studio > recording ANY day ... I actually like the studio Sugar... probably better than any of the live versions. It's nice n' atmospheric & makes me think I'm sitting by a swamp or something listening to all the little insects. Although it does sound a bit like Tori put 0 vocal effort into the song.. but I think it seems to work. Plus I always like to change the opening line to: "don't say morning scum" :P > Jules "handing in his SQQ badge" P "the new SQQ said, quite proud of his badge" :) Nathan. ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - -- Marcus Brigstocke, British Comedian ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 11:01:39 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: [oztori] um. >And i'm not really into cannabalism, though i have seen that vamp >photo of >nayth.. Seen it too - I can't believe how much he looks like David from 6 >Feet Under!! Nayth! I wanna seeeee!!!!!!!!!!! I might even return the favour... i have some dodgy photos of me. With questionable objects. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 2003 02:03:04 -0000 From: "Matty Vines" Subject: Re: [oztori] um. > Nayth! I wanna seeeee!!!!!!!!!!! I might even return the favour... i have > some dodgy photos of me. With questionable objects. *********I've never seen Six Feet Under so i can't say that he looks like David (? god hate that name).. um, but he *does* look pretty cute.. nice fangs.. *giggles*.. hugs, matt. ******************************* "What did I last cry over? That I ordered pomme frites in fucking France and got steak fries like I was in Texas. I mean how fucked can you get? They were doing steak fries in Paris, because they thought that was kinda cool. That's just confused. That's like people in Memphis trying to do the polka. 'What are you doing?'" - Tori Amos ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 11:19:01 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] ex-SQQusez;ex-SQQusez At 05:01 PM 1/02/2003 -0800, Nathan =?UNKNOWN?B?rg==?= wrote: >Julian Pinder-Surprise > wrote: > > > Lol ... I can't listen to the studio version of > > Sugar b/c it is so crap and poorly produced ... It > > sounds like an outtake of The Happy Worker (which is > > far superior). Give me a 64kbps live version of > > Sugar over a CD quality version of the studio > > recording ANY day ... > >I actually like the studio Sugar... probably better >than any of the live versions. It's nice n' >atmospheric & makes me think I'm sitting by a swamp or >something listening to all the little insects. > >Although it does sound a bit like Tori put 0 vocal >effort into the song.. but I think it seems to work. Oh you people!! Sugar is simply fantastic. No if's no but's. That whole TVaB live disc was crap. SQ, Vocals of Sugar (Original) are perfect. What about the Space Shuttle Columbia? :( Thoughts go out to the crew and their families. ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:31:44 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] Touch Me (I Want Your Body) Matty Vines wrote: > *********I've never seen Six Feet Under so i can't > say that he looks like David (? god hate that > name).. um, but he *does* look pretty cute.. nice > fangs.. *giggles*.. ....*sends you off for vision as well as precautionary hearing (as so many oztorians seem to need this) testing* AndrewR wrote: > TVaB live disc was crap. *votes for Andrew for president* Although I think some exceptions are warranted for Precious Things & Sugar... and maybe Cooling minus her annoying vocal cracking (Tori hon, get some vocal coaching babe). > What about the Space Shuttle Columbia? :( > > Thoughts go out to the crew and their families. WTF are you talking about Andz? I don't pay any attention to the 'news', so I wouldn't 'ave the foggiest. Oh and did anyone catch S'mamfa Fox hosting an '87 episode of Countdown last night? LOL. Gosh Billie Piper looked so much like her in the Day & Night vid... Also... the scary thing is how DATED all those 80's clips look now... It's like 'but I was in grade 3 then! I thought things were more modern!' Nathan. ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - -- Marcus Brigstocke, British Comedian ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 11:47:32 +1000 From: AndrewR Subject: Re: [oztori] Columbia At 05:31 PM 1/02/2003 -0800, Nathan =?UNKNOWN?B?rg==?= wrote: > > What about the Space Shuttle Columbia? :( > > > > Thoughts go out to the crew and their families. > >WTF are you talking about Andz? I don't pay any >attention to the 'news', so I wouldn't 'ave the >foggiest. The Space Shuttle Columbia, was destroyed on Re-entry from Earth orbit. 16 minutes from touch-down. At roughly 12am Brisbane/1am Sydney/Melbourne time. :o( ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:54:36 -0800 From: Nadyne Mielke Subject: Re: [oztori] Touch Me (I Want Your Body) On Saturday, Feb 1, 2003, at 17:31 US/Pacific, Nathan . wrote: > WTF are you talking about Andz? I don't pay any > attention to the 'news', so I wouldn't 'ave the > foggiest. The Columbia broke up as it re-entered the atmosphere, about fifteen minutes before its scheduled landing. The event occurred at approximately 200,000 feet, at a speed of Mach 18, over Texas at 8am Central Time (GMT+6). There are bits of shuttle debris scattered over Texas and Louisiana. It goes without saying that there are no survivors. /nm ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 17:55:07 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] Columbia... isn't that where Shakira's from? AndrewR wrote: > The Space Shuttle Columbia, was destroyed on > Re-entry from Earth orbit. 16 > minutes from touch-down. At roughly 12am > Brisbane/1am Sydney/Melbourne time. :o( OIC. For a moment there, I thought you were referring to that Jan '86 incident where some rocket/space shuttle exploded on its journey up into the sky. (G)Nat. ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - -- Marcus Brigstocke, British Comedian ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 1 Feb 2003 18:01:52 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] excerpts from Neil on unreleased b-sides (some actual useful info from the ex-dent forumz) Here: "Neil - This is a Tori question which I hope you don't mind terribly. With the release of her latest CD, Epic set up a companion website accessible via the enhanced CD. The website, among other things, promised chances to hear the B-sides for this album. Well... after many technical problems and terrible trouble with the website, I managed to hear the first B-side: Tombigbee. This is an absolutely gorgeous song. Should I have ever needed it, this song reaffirms my love and appreciation of Tori. In any case, all this struggle to hear this one beautiful song brings me to my question: when you get to hear Tori's songs before we do (for example, receiving a copy of the unfinished album), do you get to hear the B-sides as well? Or must you go along deprived with the rest of us? Curious, Deborah Neil: It depends on where I am when. With "Scarlett's Walk" I got to hear about 21 songs, in the passenger seat of Tori's SUV in Florida, parked in her garden. (She didn't have a CD player in the house, and neither of us thought to put the CDs in the DVD player because we weren't thinking.) (Although actually it was a really appropriate sort of way to hear the songs, in the front seat of a car.) So I heard the songs that were going to be on the album, and also Tombigbee and Mountain and so on. But at that point she hadn't quite made up her mind which tracks were going to Scarlett's Web and which would be on the CD, so I heard them all. With "Strange Little Girls" I heard the four songs that didn't make it onto the CD when I was in Cornwall. "After All" and "Only Women Bleed" wound up on Bs. "Hoover Factory", which would have been Rattlesnake's B-side, is really sweet, although it never got heard, and the other one is amazing. OTOH there are lots of Bs I only hear when she sends me singles, and some fall through the cracks, and I only find out about them when she plays them live and I ask "What was that song?" afterwards, and she says "Oh, it was a B side". Nathan. ===== "Computer games don't affect kids; I mean if Pac-Man affected us as kids, we'd all be running around in darkened rooms, munching magic pills and listening to repetitive electronic music." - -- Marcus Brigstocke, British Comedian ______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 2003 03:05:24 -0000 From: "Matty Vines" Subject: Re: [oztori] Touch Me (I Want Your Body) > .....*sends you off for vision as well as precautionary > hearing (as so many oztorians seem to need this) > testing* *****Lol, my vision is fine.. But, i wonder abouut yours, dear.. How's the ghost who was wearing a dress? That said "ooooooooooooh" and was very spooky. Spooky. LOL...and my hearing is fine too i think, it's just the rest of those dang oztorians with their rebellious music so loud ! > > AndrewR wrote: > > > TVaB live disc was crap. ******Y'know i liked Precious Things.. i *hated* Cruel. It was far too long and blubbery and cmon yo udon't need three minutes of background without piano or voice, or just tori being overly nasal and going "ooooaah, nyeeeh, nyaarrr nyaarr nyarrr, yarssss" lol.. I mean, Tori can be really good at improvising, so why doesn't she do a good job on the live disc.. i quite liked purple people and cornflake girl on it.. but Bells for her was boring as.. and it pisses me off that she's so damn lazy and nasal when she can sound so beautiful live. It's not so awful in it'self. It's just that often mp3s done by fans are usually so much better than the live stuff tori puts on her discs.. Tho i did like Famous Blue Raincoat on Concertina.. liked Cooling too. Diddleee Dah nah. Hugs, Matt.. ------------------------------ Date: 2 Feb 2003 05:58:05 -0000 From: "Matty Vines" Subject: Re: [oztori] ex-SQQusez;ex-SQQusez > >Although it does sound a bit like Tori put 0 vocal > >effort into the song.. but I think it seems to work. > > Oh you people!! Sugar is simply fantastic. No if's no but's. That whole > TVaB live disc was crap. SQ, Vocals of Sugar (Original) are perfect. ******Umm.. Like with some of SLG (Especially Enjoy the Silence), Sugar, as nayth put enjoy the silence sounds "Like someone woke tori up 4 hours too early and made her sing into the microphone"... her voice is unsteady and shaky and lazy. It's crap, the studio version of sugar. She coulda done it SO much better. HUgs, Matt ------------------------------ Date: Sun, 02 Feb 2003 16:40:12 +1000 From: "nina riddel" Subject: [oztori] Re: oztori-digest V3 #35 >Don't laugh... I've seriously seen a case of a mom who >complained about her son's lisp & wanted to fix it, >yet didn't realise she had the *exact* same one >herself. You should really see (gasp! a movie! but trust me on this) Being John Malcovich, Nayth. There's this man who thinks he has a terrible speech impediment and nobody can understand him, because his receptionist has a hearing problem and a PhD in speech pathology and she's told him he's unintelligable. So he's led this horrible self-imposed lonely life. Lol. I think you'd like it. >Subject: [oztori] Anyone want Polly Harvey's underpants? You know I do!!!!!!!! Someone buy them for me!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D *thinks naughty thoughts* >I also got told this morning "you are exceptionally >odd!" by a work colleague =) here here. :) _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ End of oztori-digest V3 #37 ***************************