From: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org (oztori-digest) To: oztori-digest@smoe.org Subject: oztori-digest V2 #350 Reply-To: oztori@smoe.org Sender: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Errors-To: owner-oztori-digest@smoe.org Precedence: bulk oztori-digest Saturday, November 23 2002 Volume 02 : Number 350 Today's Subjects: ----------------- [oztori] this charming man ["Henry S." ] Re: [oztori] Meet-up Brisbane... ["Dylan Plant" ] Re: [oztori] I ain't gonna care less 'bout them honourable politicians (ot) ["Lavenda" ] [oztori] Girls just Want To Have Pancakes ["M.T. -Oz" ] Re: [oztori] OT: It's you that I ignore, you will always be my whore [tha] Re: [oztori] NET50!!! ["Henry S." ] Re: [oztori] OT: Ignore [that little gnome ] Re: [oztori] FISHNET50!!! [Nathan "®" ] [oztori] re: I'm sorry ["cåth ." ] "You will be!" (Re: [oztori] re: I'm sorry) [Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] this charming man howdy, Got my US ltd ed of SW in the post today (and yes, Nathan, I must concede it's not quite as flash as the Aussie one--happy now?--but since even HMV appears to have run out of them I may have to put up with it). For those who care, I got a fire hydrant charm... not sure what the significance is there, but 2 things spring to mind: (a) I'm a Scorpio, hence a Water sign, and seem to have an affinity with things wet even though I can't swim; or (b) fire hydrants -- pissed on by dogs to mark territory -- I'm a territorial & possessive person alright. You can never read too much into anything :) Henry. self-made-man@shawcross.org "A self-made man may prefer a self-made name." - --Learned Hand - ------------------------------------------------------------- Sign up for ICQmail at http://www.icq.com/icqmail/signup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 20:06:08 +1100 From: "Dylan Plant" Subject: Re: [oztori] Meet-up Brisbane... There's one in Melbourne, which apparently I'm a host for LOL...so Nayth get ur butt up 2 melb and off the couch listening to Cyndi and watching Romper Room - Best Of on DVD :P and yeah that's the link. The Melb one is @ Vegie Bar...but i may not be able to go cos i won't have any cash :( > > > > http://toriamos.meetup.com/hq/ > > Yep that's it. There are groups for other capitals as well, but I don't > think any apart from Brisbane have got together. > > I'll be there! But I'll leave the digicam at home this time ;). > > Dan. ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:18:24 +1100 From: "Lavenda" Subject: Re: [oztori] I ain't gonna care less 'bout them honourable politicians (ot) > There is no 'g' pronounced in 'ng' anyway. It's a > sound which has no single letter assigned for its use > in English spelling (ditto th, sh, ch and oh.. a good > 13 of the vowels). Just uses 'g' b/c it's like an 'n' > produced in the mouth where 'g' normally is. Which brings me to one of my pet hates with pronounciations - people pronouncing 'Tonga' as Tong-Ga. It's Tong-a, plain and simple I would have thought. Though just to make things confusing, IIRC, in the Samoan language words are written with 'g's but the 'g' is supposed to be pronounced 'ng'. And 'p's and 'b's in Palau (gee I hope I've got that right, it's been a while) are mixed up too. And don't even get me started on the Xhosa language... X Lavs ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ Who could ever say you're not simply wonderful - 'Merman', Tori Amos ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ ~^^~ http://www.freewebs.com/tiarna/start.html - Tiarna's Homepage http://www.freewebs.com/drifts/start.html - Drifts Get Deeper ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:14:49 +1000 From: "AndrewR" Subject: RE: [oztori] I paint politicians (ot) > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-oztori@smoe.org [mailto:owner-oztori@smoe.org] On Behalf Of > Lavenda > And don't even get me started on the Xhosa language... ! :o) ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:40:11 +1000 From: "M.T. -Oz" Subject: RE: [oztori] 80's & Tori lashings AndrewR wrote >YES!! Twue Cawas a bewdiful, like a wainbow. I really like 12 little >Cyns... and then some... - even the 'not well known' tracks... except >probably the first track. Have you heard Gene Pitney's version of that song?Um,if you don't like Cyndi's version then spare yourself the pain of hearing Gene's version! (having said that I DO love TWO Gene Pitney songs!(Mecca+Liberty Valance!) >Mark _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 23:32:17 +1000 From: "M.T. -Oz" Subject: [oztori] Girls just Want To Have Pancakes Beetween me and Nayf for all 2 share.... Cyndi's influence still lives in many > > new female > > singers....Gwen Stefani and Pink are two that spring > > to mind that cite her > > as an influence and inspiration. > >Mmmmm and aren't they just treasure troves of good >muzak... well..but they do still have a CAREER! >The scariest thing I think about Cyndi is.. that she >was 30 when she sang "Girls Just Wanna Have Fun" in >that squeaky gurlie voice! You really thought she >would have grown up more by then ;) (j/k.. well I do >half mean it.. did she OD on helium before recording >it?). Nah...scariest thing was her wrestling sheeeiite IMO...but I did read that Cyndi was unhappy with only having a 4.5 register vocal range and so sucked some helium during recording that song! >I'm not saying Cyndi sucks *at all*. >a) being realistic about how how her career is going >now *from a sales perspective*; and >b) trying to bug the crap out of you :) And I'm not saying that Cyndi is a mega-chart artist anymore! I judge/assess her career on her creative output and that tells me she is still going stronger than ever. >Well that came out in 1994. Unless you have some >warped perception of time, that is *eight*, not 'six' >years ago. No,but the 3 millionth copy was sold in 1996!!!;) > > (and sold fairly dismal quantities of new > > music > >That is *all* I was trying to say. Yay, it finally >registered. c'mon.....you said much more....that was me probwem! Anyhow,may you never forget the following things about Cyndi L Tori will probably never sell over 10 million copies of ONE album! Toris greatest hits will probably never sell 3 million copies Tori will probably never have Little Richard as her marriage celebrant Tori will never win a grammy for best new artist Tori will never have a song she wrote covered by Miles Davis Tori may never direct any of her own videos Tori will never be the first artist to have their own self-directed video captioned for the hearing impaired Tori will never leave a lasting imprint on western fashion Tori will never be the first female artist in history to have 4 U.S.top 5 singles from her debut album Tori will probably never have a top 5 single about masturbation BUT Cyndi did/has done/has had/does do ALL of the above! I write this wittle list a/to remind you that Cyndi has been a remarkable artist and that you should remember these things before knocking her in ANY way b/as a complete laugh c/with some of the things that you seem to factor as important in mind d/knowing that a huge list could easily be written about things Tori has done that Cyndi hasn't e/knowing that you will write that very list and post it in to this list >I don't know of any other MMK (like the abbrev.?) >songs other than Show Me Heaven... but she has an OK >voice and she looked OK too I thought.. hheeh. Well then you owe it 2 yaself 2 do so! So please,after dling Mother(ext),Say A Prayer and Searching by CL dl Scarlover,I'm Gonna Soothe you and Absolutely Barking Stars by Maria McKee!(then pvt mail me with your praises!) >I O U nath'n. This is too much and I've had enough,I've had it right up to here... I Quit if you won't Drop The Boy! >Mark P.s...roooooooooo-wooooahhhhhh!!!!! _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 00:41:08 +1100 (EST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Julian=20P?= Subject: [oztori] Girls Just Want To Cook Cowboys "M.T. -Oz" <matt47_69@hotmail.com> wrote: >Tori will never be the first artist to have their own self-directed video Um, Cornflake Girl (US) was directed (well, *co-directed*) by Tori. - --------------------------------- Yahoo! Hint Dropper - - Avoid getting hideous gifts this Christmas with Yahoo! Hint Dropper! ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 00:33:07 +1000 From: "M.T. -Oz" Subject: Re: [oztori] Girls Just Want To Eat Cowboys >From: Julian P >"M.T. -Oz" <matt47_69@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Tori will never be the first artist to have their own self-directed video >include captions for the hearing impaired > >Um, Cornflake Girl (US) was directed (well, *co-directed*) by Tori. I must confess I didn't know!Cool! I truthfully,I adore Tori indescribably so please don't think I was dissing her..and thanx for pointing that out! [FTR,Cyndi has directed(solely)her videos for her last 2 albums and her first involvement was as co-director of I Drove All Night.] >Matt _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 00:33:28 +1000 From: "M.T. -Oz" Subject: Re: [oztori] Girls Just Want To Eat Cowboys >From: Julian P >"M.T. -Oz" <matt47_69@hotmail.com> wrote: > >Tori will never be the first artist to have their own self-directed video >include captions for the hearing impaired > >Um, Cornflake Girl (US) was directed (well, *co-directed*) by Tori. I must confess I didn't know!Cool! I truthfully,I adore Tori indescribably so please don't think I was dissing her..and thanx for pointing that out! [FTR,Cyndi has directed(solely)her videos for her last 2 albums and her first involvement was as co-director of I Drove All Night.] >Mark _________________________________________________________________ Tired of spam? Get advanced junk mail protection with MSN 8. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:07:43 +0000 (GMT) From: rchrisp@btopenworld.com Subject: Re: [oztori] meep! zac wrote: > i so very much agree.. am insanely jealous of those > listmembers who plan on getting themselves to one of the > concerts on this tour.. hehe! i wonder if it gets better the second time 'round? ;) > does anyone want to spot me about 5 grand, in the name of > tori-concert-attendance? free accomodation!!! (theres a hostel in my lounge room, though i havent told the cat about dan and kate yet) love rachael xxxx ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:28:08 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: [oztori] Cornflake girls just want to have fun Matt "M.T. -Oz" wrote: > Anyhow,may you never forget the following things > about Cyndi L > Tori will probably never sell over 10 million copies > of ONE album! She might have a chance if YKTR is re-issued ;) ...or if she re-forms it. > Toris greatest hits will probably never sell 3 > million copies 't probably won't. That's if the damn thing even gets a *RELEASE* first! > Tori will never be the first artist to have their > own self-directed video > captioned for the hearing impaired Wow that's a um... useful accomplishment for Cyndz. If you can't hear the music, what's the point? > Tori will never be the first female artist in > history to have 4 U.S.top 5 > singles from her debut album That's only b/c Atlantic only released 2 singles from YKTR ;) Had they released another 4 on top of that.. I'm sure they would have all been top 5 smashes. > Tori will probably never have a top 5 single about > masturbation Hehehehe. Tori should do a She Bop/Icicle/I Touch Myself medley, p'raps? > I write this wittle list > a/to remind you that Cyndi has been a remarkable > artist and that you should > remember these things before knocking her in ANY way I wasn't knocking her.. I was just stating facts. > d/knowing that a huge list could easily be written > about things Tori has > done that Cyndi hasn't > e/knowing that you will write that very list and > post it in to this list Nah.. I thought about it, but couldn't be bothered in the end. > Well then you owe it 2 yaself 2 do so! > So please,after dling Mother(ext),Say A Prayer and > Searching by CL > dl Scarlover,I'm Gonna Soothe you and Absolutely > Barking Stars by Maria > McKee!(then pvt mail me with your praises!) ...mmm maybe some other day (like when the new Kate Bush album comes out). Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus  Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 14:33:08 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] Girls Just Want To Eat Cowboys "M.T. -Oz" wrote: > I truthfully,I adore Tori indescribably so please > don't think I was dissing > her.. ...you've been listening to too much (Bros content) Destiny's Child. "I'm not gonna diss Tori on the internet... 'Cuz my mamma taught me better dan dat!" > and thanx for pointing that out! > [FTR,Cyndi has directed(solely)her videos for her > last 2 albums maybe b/c she doesn't have the funds to hire somebody else to do it anymore? :P Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus  Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 11:06:27 +1000 From: "AndrewR" Subject: [oztori] NET50!!! Remember, the Net50 is on tonight - whether you like JJJ, or not - just vote for ASF here: http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/net50/vote.htm ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 17:21:45 +1100 From: that little gnome Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: It's you that I ignore, you will always be my whore At 04:59 22/11/02, Nathan "." wrote: >Jazzalicious wrote: > > > it is not a > > smart-ass thing (as in the > > meaning of the word 'gnome', look it up!). > >Ah, "person with sinister influence, esp. in finance". > Yup, that's why you're studying business :) Ha ha Nayth. I was thinking more along the lines of "a brief reflection or maxim." And Will, I'm sorry if my bluntness in prior email took you by surprise, I'll try not to be so blunt in future. I did take no offence at what you said. I was just explaining the name. I swear. ;) Jas ***** this was a transmission from gnome Gnome Productions: http://gnome.amos.net threemilesHIGH: http://threemileshigh.mtrez.net "you say come on girl don't do this now i say this is the only way i know now" - - 'Catalyst', Genevieve Maynard ------------------------------ Date: 22 Nov 2002 20:35:57 -0800 From: "Henry S." Subject: Re: [oztori] NET50!!! On Fri, 22 November 2002, "AndrewR" wrote: > > Remember, the Net50 is on tonight - whether you like JJJ, or not - just > vote for ASF here: > > http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/net50/vote.htm Why? Does it serve any purpose? I mean, who really gives a monkey's what's in the Net 50? Henry. self-made-man@shawcross.org "A self-made man may prefer a self-made name." - --Learned Hand - ------------------------------------------------------------- Sign up for ICQmail at http://www.icq.com/icqmail/signup.html ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 16:50:00 +1100 From: that little gnome Subject: Re: [oztori] OT: Ignore At 04:42 22/11/02, Will Johncock wrote: >whoaaaaa i was just having a bit of fun. sorry if it at all offended you. >i didn't mean that i promise! *pinkie swear* ;) Oh, I knew that. Did my explanation seem too serious??? eek! No offence (c or s, whatever) taken at all. Jas ***** this was a transmission from gnome Gnome Productions: http://gnome.amos.net threemilesHIGH: http://threemileshigh.mtrez.net "you say come on girl don't do this now i say this is the only way i know now" - - 'Catalyst', Genevieve Maynard ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 21:24:38 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: Re: [oztori] FISHNET50!!! "Henry S." wrote: > On Fri, 22 November 2002, "AndrewR" wrote: > > > > > Remember, the Net50 is on tonight - whether you > like JJJ, or not - just > > vote for ASF here: > > > > http://www.abc.net.au/triplej/net50/vote.htm > > Why? Does it serve any purpose? I mean, who really > gives a monkey's what's in the Net 50? Yay Nayth & Henz agree on sumfink! Jaz (s or z whatever [re: your 'offence s or c whatever' comment] ;) wrote: > And Will, I'm sorry if my bluntness in prior email > took you by surprise, > I'll try not to be so blunt in future. Pah - I prefer the 'wartz and all' version of Jaz. Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus  Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 16:49:05 +1100 From: "cåth ." Subject: [oztori] re: I'm sorry >>>But just how BEAUTIFUL is Wampum Prayer? are you serious? that's the ONE song that i just can't listen to at ALL. imho, amber waves and gold dust absolutely OWN. >>>album preference? LE SW TVAB FTCH SG (absolutely LOVE "after all" and "heart of gold") BFP UTP <3 cath p.s absolutely WONDERFUL comedy play touring atm, saw it at the opera house last night & it's called "sucker". i recommend it :) _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail ------------------------------ Date: Fri, 22 Nov 2002 22:29:02 -0800 (PST) From: Nathan "®" Subject: "You will be!" (Re: [oztori] re: I'm sorry) "ceth ." wrote: > >>>album preference? > > LE > SW > TVAB > FTCH > SG (absolutely LOVE "after all" and "heart of gold") 1) It's S*L*G. 2) AA [hehe alcoholics anonymous] ain't on it. Nathan. ===== "They don't expect boys to pretend to be nice, but they do with girls, and I'm not a nice person!" - Siobhan Fahey. _______________________________________________________________________ Yahoo! Mail Plus  Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com ------------------------------ Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 18:20:36 +1100 From: "riot poofter" Subject: [oztori] i said, yes, mooother, well, i said girls, yes, joooost wunnnna have fu-hunnnnnn first let me say that i quite like a bit 'o' cyndi lauper, in a camp/kitsch sort of way... BUT >> > singers....Gwen Stefani and Pink are two that spring >> > to mind that cite her >> > as an influence and inspiration. whoopedy doo. and alanis morissette cites tori. no doubt are shite and pink, well she's ok, but hardly an amazing perosn to say you inspired. >I judge/assess her career on her creative output and that tells me she is >still going stronger than ever. hahahahahahahaha... yeha she is a support act for *cher*. really "going strong (enough)" reminds me of martika trying to start a new career wuth a free internet track.. which onlya few thousand people bothered to download. still, thats probably more than bouth the last cyndi lauper album. and mch mroe than actually liked it. no, i *have* herad her new stuff is quite good, but she just inescapably reeks of the 80s. >Tori will probably never sell over 10 million copies of ONE album! well, i think its great to equate commercial success with quality. i take it that means you hail the highest seleling feamle artists of all time... shania, cleine, mariah, britney etc... all of britney's albums have sold 10 million or higher... >Toris greatest hits will probably never sell 3 million copies i actually think tori could seel 3 million best of albums... she has sld that many of at leats her first four albums, i'd wager. and it would *have* to have a better title than "seven deadly cyns and then some" *groan* >Tori will probably never have Little Richard as her marriage celebrant and cyndi won't get married ina fucking catsle - whats your point? isn't little richard a paedophile or something anyway? maybe he's a rapist... >Tori will never win a grammy for best new artist trivia: vcyndi won over madonna. can we say: "bad predeiction". yes, yes we can/ >Tori will never have a song she wrote covered by Miles Davis if cyndi can do it, tori can. unless miles davis is dead, in which case thats not playing fair. what cydni-written song has peter gabriel sung tho>? >Tori may never direct any of her own videos wrong! (see julian's response) >Tori will never be the first artist to have their own self-directed video >captioned for the hearing impaired and how is cyndi's rapoe hotline going? oh no, music for the eaf is *much* for useful! >Tori will never leave a lasting imprint on western fashion yeah cyndi's clothes made a statement: "please kill me". >Tori will never be the first female artist in history to have 4 U.S.top 5 >singles from her debut album didn't britney do that too? again, commercial success does not equal quality so why bother with these statistics? its not like cyndi had a *lasting* career is it? >Tori will probably never have a top 5 single about masturbation well, she had a hit about female genital mutilation. i think thats more imptressive. >a/to remind you that Cyndi has been a remarkable ha! >artist ha! that is all. roozi ps. maria mckee is a boring, twee, sarah maclachlan-esque twat.that is really all. _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. 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